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How do I properly use an electrical demagnitizer?
On 7/16/2017 8:11 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
you made up some mythical place where you posted mythical projects. Dan Oh, they're not mythical. Shaddup, ****dress. |
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:33:36 -0700, Nashville Cats wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:42:56 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 09:37:39 -0700, Nashville Cats wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:22:17 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 09:02:21 -0700, Nashville Cats wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:15:17 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: google only turns up very recent posts by his current nym Did you at least listen to the song after looking up its title? will not post thing that are on topic Boo hoo. What are you offering those who please you here? Why would I want to please someone who will make up fallacious **** whenever it suits him, and who is fine with death threats so long as they're from a deadbeat member of his tribe? You've got the wrong attribution here. That was Dan, not me. Right. Sorry. I don't think anyone sensible will confuse his writing or thinking with yours though. Will I be banned from Usenet for admitting a mistake? No, but your punishment is that you have to actually read Red Pecker's posts for a month... Surely that's against the Geneva Convention or something! I decline. Instead, next time I come up behind a VW bus, I'll stay there until my turnoff. Hey, it's either that or stick your head in a toilet and give yourself a swirly, which is about the same thing as reading Pecker's posts. -- Ed Huntress |
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On 7/17/2017 9:15 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
There's a lot of stress around these days, So kill yourself and end it. |
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On 7/17/2017 10:22 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
You've got the wrong attribution here. **** off, ****dress. |
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On 7/17/2017 10:34 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
"The sociology of U.S. gun culture" The whinings of a cowardly gun-grabber. |
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On 7/17/2017 10:42 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
your punishment is that you have to actually read You need to take a long dirt nap. |
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:33:36 -0600, tyre biter wrote:
On 7/16/2017 8:11 PM, Ed Huntress wrote: you made up some mythical place where you posted mythical projects. Dan Oh, they're not mythical. Shaddup Hey Biter, is it true that Pirelli tires taste a little like lasagna? -- Ed Huntress |
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On 7/17/2017 11:35 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
stick your head in a toilet and give yourself a swirly, Crazy Eddy's exercise routine... |
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On 7/17/2017 11:36 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:33:36 -0600, tyre biter wrote: On 7/16/2017 8:11 PM, Ed Huntress wrote: you made up some mythical place where you posted mythical projects. Dan Oh, they're not mythical. Shaddup Hey Biter, is it true that Pirelli tires taste a little like lasagna? Wot? You polished off all the Michelins already? |
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On 7/17/2017 11:33 AM, Nashville Cats wrote:
No, but your punishment is that you have to actually read Red Pecker's posts for a month... Surely that's against the Geneva Convention or something! I decline. Instead, next time I come up behind a VW bus, I'll stay there until my turnoff. You do that with Subaru's too? |
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On 7/17/2017 9:22 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 09:02:21 -0700, Nashville Cats wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:15:17 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: google only turns up very recent posts by his current nym Did you at least listen to the song after looking up its title? will not post thing that are on topic Boo hoo. What are you offering those who please you here? Why would I want to please someone who will make up fallacious **** whenever it suits him, and who is fine with death threats so long as they're from a deadbeat member of his tribe? You've got the wrong attribution here. That was Dan, not me. Something went screwy in his post, because when I clicked the "in reply to link" in Thunderbird, it took me to Dan's post. |
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On 7/17/2017 9:42 AM, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 09:37:39 -0700, Nashville Cats wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:22:17 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 09:02:21 -0700, Nashville Cats wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:15:17 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: google only turns up very recent posts by his current nym Did you at least listen to the song after looking up its title? will not post thing that are on topic Boo hoo. What are you offering those who please you here? Why would I want to please someone who will make up fallacious **** whenever it suits him, and who is fine with death threats so long as they're from a deadbeat member of his tribe? You've got the wrong attribution here. That was Dan, not me. Right. Sorry. I don't think anyone sensible will confuse his writing or thinking with yours though. Will I be banned from Usenet for admitting a mistake? No, but your punishment is that you have to actually read Red Pecker's posts for a month... I think that's banned by the eighth amendment. |
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 13:19:54 -0600, tyre biter wrote:
On 7/17/2017 11:36 AM, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:33:36 -0600, tyre biter wrote: On 7/16/2017 8:11 PM, Ed Huntress wrote: you made up some mythical place where you posted mythical projects. Dan Oh, they're not mythical. Shaddup Hey Biter, is it true that Pirelli tires taste a little like lasagna? Wot? You polished off all the Michelins already? I had to scrap them because they were full of tooth marks. It looked like someone had knawed on them. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 12:42:01 -0700, Rudy Canoza
wrote: On 7/17/2017 9:22 AM, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 09:02:21 -0700, Nashville Cats wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:15:17 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: google only turns up very recent posts by his current nym Did you at least listen to the song after looking up its title? will not post thing that are on topic Boo hoo. What are you offering those who please you here? Why would I want to please someone who will make up fallacious **** whenever it suits him, and who is fine with death threats so long as they're from a deadbeat member of his tribe? You've got the wrong attribution here. That was Dan, not me. Something went screwy in his post, because when I clicked the "in reply to link" in Thunderbird, it took me to Dan's post. Notice there is no word wrap in Dan's posts -- at least, as I see them in Agent. That sometimes seems to screw up the indents, because there may be no right brackets where the reader program is expecting them. Maybe. Or maybe it's something else. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 12:07:20 PM UTC-4, Nashville Cats wrote:
Dan is so busy complaining about serious stuff like nyms that he can't spare any outrage about minor things like death threats. I would be outraged at death threats if I thought any of them were credible.. I do not know where you live, but the chance that you live close to Gunner is small. And Gunner can't seem to be able to move to a state where he might get work. So the chance that he would actually find the resources to find and hurt anyone is in my opinion is Zip. And do not believe the death threats are real. On the other hand I am constantly amazed that there are deranged people that fly airplanes into buildings and plant bombs where they are likely to kill people. So maybe I should be afraid. But I just can not imagine anyone taking the death threats on RCM seriously. Dan Dan |
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On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 1:33:36 PM UTC-4, Nashville Cats wrote:
Surely that's against the Geneva Convention or something! I decline. Instead, next time I come up behind a VW bus, I'll stay there until my turnoff. It is covered by the " cruel and unusual " clause. No one deserves that. Dan |
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On 7/17/2017 1:44 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 13:19:54 -0600, tyre biter wrote: On 7/17/2017 11:36 AM, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:33:36 -0600, tyre biter wrote: On 7/16/2017 8:11 PM, Ed Huntress wrote: you made up some mythical place where you posted mythical projects. Dan Oh, they're not mythical. Shaddup Hey Biter, is it true that Pirelli tires taste a little like lasagna? Wot? You polished off all the Michelins already? I had to scrap them because they were full of tooth marks. It looked like someone had knawed on them. It's spelled with a "g", you moron. Now go eat some more ass. |
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 14:20:45 -0600, tyre biter wrote:
On 7/17/2017 1:44 PM, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 13:19:54 -0600, tyre biter wrote: On 7/17/2017 11:36 AM, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:33:36 -0600, tyre biter wrote: On 7/16/2017 8:11 PM, Ed Huntress wrote: you made up some mythical place where you posted mythical projects. Dan Oh, they're not mythical. Shaddup Hey Biter, is it true that Pirelli tires taste a little like lasagna? Wot? You polished off all the Michelins already? I had to scrap them because they were full of tooth marks. It looked like someone had knawed on them. It's spelled with a "g", you moron. Tyre biter has hit bottom of his bag of slime; he's down to calling out spelling errors. For that, you have to eat a Bridgestone WITHOUT noodles or soy sauce. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 13:36:57 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:33:36 -0600, tyre biter wrote: On 7/16/2017 8:11 PM, Ed Huntress wrote: you made up some mythical place where you posted mythical projects. Dan Oh, they're not mythical. Shaddup Hey Biter, is it true that Pirelli tires taste a little like lasagna? Biter should learn to spit out the TPM sensors. Those are toxic and can cause brain damage. That's according to a peer reviewed blog post at Dimbart. |
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 13:58:37 -0700, Nashville Cats wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 13:36:57 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:33:36 -0600, tyre biter wrote: On 7/16/2017 8:11 PM, Ed Huntress wrote: you made up some mythical place where you posted mythical projects. Dan Oh, they're not mythical. Shaddup Hey Biter, is it true that Pirelli tires taste a little like lasagna? Biter should learn to spit out the TPM sensors. Those are toxic and can cause brain damage. That's according to a peer reviewed blog post at Dimbart. He goes for old bias-ply tires, because he can use the fabric for dental floss. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 13:14:17 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 12:07:20 PM UTC-4, Nashville Cats wrote: Dan is so busy complaining about serious stuff like nyms that he can't spare any outrage about minor things like death threats. I would be outraged at death threats if I thought any of them were credible. They don't have to be credible to be outrageous and unacceptable. He insists they are credible, and that he never lies. Which makes him a bald faced liar AND a deadbeat phony conservative who deserves everything he gets here. You say nothing about any of it because you're fine with every stupid lie he's ever told. And I'm fine with you being fine. But you think I should want to please you in any way? **** that. You're an enabler, and your whining about nyms and nonsense fits your tribe perfectly. |
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On 7/17/2017 2:25 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 14:20:45 -0600, tyre biter wrote: On 7/17/2017 1:44 PM, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 13:19:54 -0600, tyre biter wrote: On 7/17/2017 11:36 AM, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:33:36 -0600, tyre biter wrote: On 7/16/2017 8:11 PM, Ed Huntress wrote: you made up some mythical place where you posted mythical projects. Dan Oh, they're not mythical. Shaddup Hey Biter, is it true that Pirelli tires taste a little like lasagna? Wot? You polished off all the Michelins already? I had to scrap them because they were full of tooth marks. It looked like someone had knawed on them. It's spelled with a "g", you moron. Tyre biter has hit bottom of his bag of slime; he's down to calling out spelling errors. You're not very well educated, are you? For that, you have to eat a Bridgestone WITHOUT noodles or soy sauce. What say you wear one around your neck and set it aflame. |
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On 7/17/2017 2:58 PM, Nashville Cats wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 13:36:57 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:33:36 -0600, tyre biter wrote: On 7/16/2017 8:11 PM, Ed Huntress wrote: you made up some mythical place where you posted mythical projects. Dan Oh, they're not mythical. Shaddup Hey Biter, is it true that Pirelli tires taste a little like lasagna? Biter should learn to spit out the TPM sensors. Those are toxic and can cause brain damage. That's according to a peer reviewed blog post at Dimbart. The wheel balancing weights are still leaded. |
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On 7/17/2017 3:09 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 13:58:37 -0700, Nashville Cats wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 13:36:57 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:33:36 -0600, tyre biter wrote: On 7/16/2017 8:11 PM, Ed Huntress wrote: you made up some mythical place where you posted mythical projects. Dan Oh, they're not mythical. Shaddup Hey Biter, is it true that Pirelli tires taste a little like lasagna? Biter should learn to spit out the TPM sensors. Those are toxic and can cause brain damage. That's according to a peer reviewed blog post at Dimbart. He goes for old bias-ply tires, because he can use the fabric for dental floss. Are you still stealing the breath mints from the truck stop urinals, Crazy Eddy? |
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 15:21:48 -0600, tyre biter wrote:
On 7/17/2017 2:58 PM, Nashville Cats wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 13:36:57 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:33:36 -0600, tyre biter wrote: On 7/16/2017 8:11 PM, Ed Huntress wrote: you made up some mythical place where you posted mythical projects. Dan Oh, they're not mythical. Shaddup Hey Biter, is it true that Pirelli tires taste a little like lasagna? Biter should learn to spit out the TPM sensors. Those are toxic and can cause brain damage. That's according to a peer reviewed blog post at Dimbart. The wheel balancing weights are still leaded. I don't think there are enough of them to cure your imbalance. It's time for you to swallow a bucket of DynaBeads with a Slime sealer chaser. Chug! Chug! Chug! |
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On 7/17/2017 3:38 PM, Nashville Cats wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 15:21:48 -0600, tyre biter wrote: On 7/17/2017 2:58 PM, Nashville Cats wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 13:36:57 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 11:33:36 -0600, tyre biter wrote: On 7/16/2017 8:11 PM, Ed Huntress wrote: you made up some mythical place where you posted mythical projects. Dan Oh, they're not mythical. Shaddup Hey Biter, is it true that Pirelli tires taste a little like lasagna? Biter should learn to spit out the TPM sensors. Those are toxic and can cause brain damage. That's according to a peer reviewed blog post at Dimbart. The wheel balancing weights are still leaded. I don't think there are enough of them to cure your imbalance. That's because Crazy Eddy scarfed them all down. It's time for you to swallow a bucket of DynaBeads with a Slime sealer chaser. Chug! Chug! Chug! Crazy Eddy's favorite snack: https://sosharethis.com/wp-content/u...nal-cake-2.jpg |
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On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 5:19:26 PM UTC-4, Nashville Cats wrote:
They don't have to be credible to be outrageous and unacceptable. He insists they are credible, and that he never lies. Which makes him a bald faced liar AND a deadbeat phony conservative who deserves everything he gets here. You say nothing about any of it because you're fine with every stupid lie he's ever told. And I'm fine with you being fine. But you think I should want to please you in any way? **** that. You're an enabler, and your whining about nyms and nonsense fits your tribe perfectly. I just think that RCM ought to be about RCM. I do not say anything, because " Frankly my dear, I do not give a damn ". If you do not want to discuss metalworking, that is fine by me. But I would prefer you did not post a lot of other stuff in RCM. I do not whine about nyms, but I also think that most people that use nyms post a lot of crap that they do not want associated with their real names. I do not think I am an enabler and do not consider myself as being in a tribe. You seem to think not commenting is enabling and want to stuff everyone into a cubby hole so you can consider every one the same. Dan |
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 15:04:19 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 5:19:26 PM UTC-4, Nashville Cats wrote: They don't have to be credible to be outrageous and unacceptable. He insists they are credible, and that he never lies. Which makes him a bald faced liar AND a deadbeat phony conservative who deserves everything he gets here. You say nothing about any of it because you're fine with every stupid lie he's ever told. And I'm fine with you being fine. But you think I should want to please you in any way? **** that. You're an enabler, and your whining about nyms and nonsense fits your tribe perfectly. I just think that RCM ought to be about RCM. I used to think that. But eventually I realized that people like you had let the thing deteriorate to the point that it was mostly just another echo chamber for rightards to parrot each others' idiotic ideology, and in the words of Triumph, only good for me to poop on. I do not say anything, because " Frankly my dear, I do not give a damn ". So you got what you deserved. If you do not want to discuss metalworking, that is fine by me. But I would prefer you did not post a lot of other stuff in RCM. Too bad you didn't care what I wanted, the same as I don't care now what you want. I do not whine about nyms, It's a silly thing you resort to when you run out of equally weak things to write. but I also think that most people that use nyms post a lot of crap that they do not want associated with their real names. Posts have content that can be good or bad. Plenty of the crap that's posted here is under a real name, and your selective memory and logical fallacy are good examples. I do not think I am an enabler and do not consider myself as being in a tribe. What you think doesn't change the reality of the situation. You seem to think not commenting is enabling It is. You were tolerant of extreme BS. It's fair to assume you like some of it, probably most of it. Many of the less tolerant left for better groups. Which is pretty much any group. RCM and its crossposted kin are the only place one can find mention of "the great cull" for example, and the repeated assertions that "Hitler was a Socialist/Fascist just like US liberals" Did you think those sorts of things would attract interesting metalworkers? and want to stuff everyone into a cubby hole so you can consider every one the same. You aren't in a cubby hole. It's more of an outhouse. |
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 17:50:40 -0700, Nashville Cats wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 15:04:19 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Monday, July 17, 2017 at 5:19:26 PM UTC-4, Nashville Cats wrote: They don't have to be credible to be outrageous and unacceptable. He insists they are credible, and that he never lies. Which makes him a bald faced liar AND a deadbeat phony conservative who deserves everything he gets here. You say nothing about any of it because you're fine with every stupid lie he's ever told. And I'm fine with you being fine. But you think I should want to please you in any way? **** that. You're an enabler, and your whining about nyms and nonsense fits your tribe perfectly. I just think that RCM ought to be about RCM. I used to think that. But eventually I realized that people like you had let the thing deteriorate to the point that it was mostly just another echo chamber for rightards to parrot each others' idiotic ideology, and in the words of Triumph, only good for me to poop on. I do not say anything, because " Frankly my dear, I do not give a damn ". So you got what you deserved. If you do not want to discuss metalworking, that is fine by me. But I would prefer you did not post a lot of other stuff in RCM. Too bad you didn't care what I wanted, the same as I don't care now what you want. I do not whine about nyms, It's a silly thing you resort to when you run out of equally weak things to write. but I also think that most people that use nyms post a lot of crap that they do not want associated with their real names. Posts have content that can be good or bad. Plenty of the crap that's posted here is under a real name, and your selective memory and logical fallacy are good examples. I do not think I am an enabler and do not consider myself as being in a tribe. What you think doesn't change the reality of the situation. You seem to think not commenting is enabling It is. You were tolerant of extreme BS. It's fair to assume you like some of it, probably most of it. Many of the less tolerant left for better groups. Which is pretty much any group. RCM and its crossposted kin are the only place one can find mention of "the great cull" for example, and the repeated assertions that "Hitler was a Socialist/Fascist just like US liberals" Did you think those sorts of things would attract interesting metalworkers? and want to stuff everyone into a cubby hole so you can consider every one the same. You aren't in a cubby hole. It's more of an outhouse. It's too bad. I was here before the cross posting started. There was lots of discussion about amateur metalworking. First, it was Gunner, around 15 years ago. He cross posted to misc.survivalism and the nutbags started to crawl in. Then he added a couple more NGs. Then Cliff (now deceased) picked up the mantle and made it worse. A couple of cranks from other NGs started cross-posting to *here*, but that seems to have died down. Now it's mostly Kopypasta Keller, the dirtbag for all seasons and a moral cretin. He takes a dump on four or five NGs at a time, usually calculated for maximum cross provocation. As someone once said, I'd never wish anyone dead, but there are certain obituaries that it would give me great pleasure to read. -- Ed Huntress |
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How do I properly use an electrical demagnitizer?
Good explanation - sometimes the ends are also wound in the
correct direction naturally to enhance the field in that pole. Martin On 7/16/2017 8:47 PM, DoN. Nichols wrote: On 2017-07-16, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 10:36:52 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 09:18:03 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 15 Jul 2017 05:24:50 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On Saturday, July 15, 2017 at 6:18:53 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote: I picked one of these up this week and dont really know the proper way to use it. https://cdn.globalauctionplatform.co...d4/540x360.jpg Its an Ideal 13-001 demagnitizer. Thanks Gunner [ ... ] that was not for this PARTICULAR 3 module magnitizer. I was asking about the Ideal 13-001 demagnitizer..not "generic plate demagnitizer" titter So tell me..what are the (3) modules used for? There is "NO" plate on this unit. There are (3) metal gizmos protruding from a plastic cover. What you have is a coil wound on the "E" laminations of a transformer core. Shape of a single one is rather like this: XXXX XXXXXX XXXX XXXX XXXXXX XXXX XXXX XXXXXX XXXX XXXX XXXXXX XXXX XXXX XXXXXX XXXX XXXX XXXXXX XXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXOX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX If you look closely at the "modules" you will see that they are made of multiple pieces of thin metal (a metal which is easy to magnetize and demagnize.) They are stacked together and usually combined with "I" laminations (which look like this: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX XOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXOX XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX And in normal transformer constructions one 'E' lamination will put the bar at the bottom and the next will put it at the top, which the 'I' laminations joining across the the three pole pieces. For the demagnetizer, you throw out (or never purchase) the 'I' laminations, and point all of the "E" ones the same way. Wind a coil on a square bobbin and slide it onto the center pole piece. This produces a magnetic circuit which puts the North pole on the center and the South on the two end ones for one half cycle, and then reversed on the next half cycle. Once the coil is wound and put over the center pole, the whole thing is put in a box (poles down), and epoxy is poured in and allowed to harden. Then maybe go to a belt sander once it is hardened and grind a little off so the pole pieces are exposed. (Or, maybe put a slab of plastic over the end so nothing gets hooked on the edges of the pole pieces.) (Oh yes -- connect an AC cord to the winding first. :-) I made such a demagnetizer once. Depending on how many turns, you may be able to leave it connected to the AC line full time, or maybe have to limit it to no more than perhaps five minutes, to keep it from overheating. And how are they used and for what reason? Plug it in, and slowly draw the piece of metal over all three pole pieces until you are fully off them by maybe 6 to 8 inches. Then turn off the power, or draw a second object over it. If you want to magnetize instead, add a rectifier in series with the power line and put the piece there, apply power for a few seconds and remove the power. This will magnetize it where the pole pieces are and between them. With the DC -- you may need a lower voltage to keep the current within reason. the 2 small end modules are used differently than the larger center module? They are used together -- to demagnetize or magnetize. titter How are they used? Described above. titter And so forth. titter This is a plate demagnitizer http://www.shars.com/files/products/...2-1170Main.jpg Same thing, but with a stainless steel cover plate over the pole pieces.. (likely 300 series non-magnetic stainless.) This is what I own: https://cdn.globalauctionplatform.co...d4/540x360.jpg Plate? As I described above. You can see the ends of the pole pieces and the epoxy (or perhaps poured tar). And a partial cover over the edges. titter Thank you for your kind commentary however. titter Enjoy, DoN. |
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On 7/17/2017 7:03 PM, Ed Huntress wrote:
First, it was Gunner, around 15 years ago. He cross posted to misc.survivalism and the nutbags started to crawl in. Then he added a couple more NGs. Gunner would eat you like jerky, you least coast prickfarm. |
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On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 19:47:36 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: I found that if I simply stand the tool vertically on the center mass, and turn the power on for 5-10 seconds, then turn it off..it magnitizes the tool well enough for my purposes. Gunner, you don't need the time. During the time you hold the switch down, the unit is demagnetizing the unit. What does the magnetizing is opening the switch on a current peak. The high delta-I/delta-T causes a step change in the magnetic field and that does the magnetizing. This process generates more or less magnetism, depending on the luck of when you open the switch on the 60 Hz half-cycle. At most, though, you're dealing with only 120 volts. The MSD ignition box fires multiple 450 volt pulses into the "coil" every time it is triggered - normally with opening points (a normally closed switch in your case. Here's a cheap one on sleazebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/361957443181 The demagnetizer probably has more induction than is optimum. Once you have the MSD box, you can make a more optimum magnetizer by bundling steel welding rods together to make about a 1 inch bundle about 8" long. Wrap the bundle with electrical tape and then perhaps 50 turns of electrical wire. Preferably magnet wire but ordinary wire will do. Gauge doesn't much matter, though I'd use 14 gauge or larger. This will magnetize the tool to the extent that you have to actually tug on the screw to get it off. An alternative approach that isn't as effective but is cheaper is to use a fairly good size super-magnet and stroke the tool in the same direction every time for maybe 10-20 strokes. This drags the magnetic domains into alignment. It isn't as effective as the capacitor discharge technique but the only cost is the super-magnet. I maintain a set of strongly magnetized tools and another set of demagnetized tools. One can't imagine the handiness of a combination wrench being able to hold a nut in place in a practically inaccessible place while the bolt is turned to start the threads. John John DeArmond http://www.neon-john.com http://www.tnduction.com Tellico Plains, Occupied TN See website for email address |
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 08:52:04 -0400, Neon John wrote:
One can't imagine the handiness of a combination wrench being able to hold a nut in place in a practically inaccessible place while the bolt is turned to start the threads. I haven't wanted that feature since I can't remember when, and I turn my share of wrenches. Although last week I needed some spark plugs captive in a socket. I put a piece of electrical tape over the edge of the socket at a hex corner, and got the perfect amount of friction hassle-free. |
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 08:52:04 -0400, Neon John wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jul 2017 19:47:36 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: I found that if I simply stand the tool vertically on the center mass, and turn the power on for 5-10 seconds, then turn it off..it magnitizes the tool well enough for my purposes. Gunner, you don't need the time. During the time you hold the switch down, the unit is demagnetizing the unit. What does the magnetizing is opening the switch on a current peak. The high delta-I/delta-T causes a step change in the magnetic field and that does the magnetizing. Really? Then why does it provide more of a magnetif field when I keep it on more than 5 seconds, than if I do a Off/On/Off blip? I was curious about that when I tried it. This process generates more or less magnetism, depending on the luck of when you open the switch on the 60 Hz half-cycle. At most, though, you're dealing with only 120 volts. Yes. The MSD ignition box fires multiple 450 volt pulses into the "coil" every time it is triggered - normally with opening points (a normally closed switch in your case. Here's a cheap one on sleazebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/361957443181 The demagnetizer probably has more induction than is optimum. Once you have the MSD box, you can make a more optimum magnetizer by bundling steel welding rods together to make about a 1 inch bundle about 8" long. Wrap the bundle with electrical tape and then perhaps 50 turns of electrical wire. Preferably magnet wire but ordinary wire will do. Gauge doesn't much matter, though I'd use 14 gauge or larger. Cool! This will magnetize the tool to the extent that you have to actually tug on the screw to get it off. Ill try that! An alternative approach that isn't as effective but is cheaper is to use a fairly good size super-magnet and stroke the tool in the same direction every time for maybe 10-20 strokes. This drags the magnetic domains into alignment. It isn't as effective as the capacitor discharge technique but the only cost is the super-magnet. Ive used the little tool with the steps and hole in it before..and they work well enough on small items. http://www.ebay.com/itm/IIT-90262-Ma...-/152411079048 I maintain a set of strongly magnetized tools and another set of demagnetized tools. One can't imagine the handiness of a combination wrench being able to hold a nut in place in a practically inaccessible place while the bolt is turned to start the threads. Indeed! As a service tech...I find them to be invaluable. I loaned my above small magnitizer/demagnizer to a guy at a shop..and left before remembering to get it back. Ive never replaced it...Harbor Freight doesnt sell them anymore. John John DeArmond http://www.neon-john.com http://www.tnduction.com Tellico Plains, Occupied TN See website for email address --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 21:03:48 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote: It's too bad. I was here before the cross posting started. There was lots of discussion about amateur metalworking. First, it was Gunner, around 15 years ago. He cross posted to misc.survivalism and the nutbags started to crawl in. Then he added a couple more NGs. Then Cliff (now deceased) picked up the mantle and made it worse. A couple of cranks from other NGs started cross-posting to *here*, but that seems to have died down. Now it's mostly Kopypasta Keller, the dirtbag for all seasons and a moral cretin. He takes a dump on four or five NGs at a time, usually calculated for maximum cross provocation. As someone once said, I'd never wish anyone dead, but there are certain obituaries that it would give me great pleasure to read. It boils down to the unmoderated nature of Usenet. For on-topic stuff I use groups like the one I linked to in my email. Advantages there, and at most all such groups, are categorization, popular threads pinned, FAQs, and built-in searching by category and author. Here's another I've been reading. http://www.cnczone.com/forums/ I could spend days if I had time, without ever having to wade through gun crap, BS artists, etc. My suggestion for a more appropriate name for RCM: DSSBPL (Disgruntled SS Beneficiaries Pretending to be Libertarians) |
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:08:55 -0700, Nashville Cats wrote:
On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 21:03:48 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: It's too bad. I was here before the cross posting started. There was lots of discussion about amateur metalworking. First, it was Gunner, around 15 years ago. He cross posted to misc.survivalism and the nutbags started to crawl in. Then he added a couple more NGs. Then Cliff (now deceased) picked up the mantle and made it worse. A couple of cranks from other NGs started cross-posting to *here*, but that seems to have died down. Now it's mostly Kopypasta Keller, the dirtbag for all seasons and a moral cretin. He takes a dump on four or five NGs at a time, usually calculated for maximum cross provocation. As someone once said, I'd never wish anyone dead, but there are certain obituaries that it would give me great pleasure to read. It boils down to the unmoderated nature of Usenet. For on-topic stuff I use groups like the one I linked to in my email. Advantages there, and at most all such groups, are categorization, popular threads pinned, FAQs, and built-in searching by category and author. Here's another I've been reading. http://www.cnczone.com/forums/ I could spend days if I had time, without ever having to wade through gun crap, BS artists, etc. My suggestion for a more appropriate name for RCM: DSSBPL (Disgruntled SS Beneficiaries Pretending to be Libertarians) What about ****s in dresses? Are there a lot of ****s in dresses in that group? Ed needs a new group to troll for gay sex. |
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 09:54:20 -0500, Red Prepper wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:08:55 -0700, Nashville Cats wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 21:03:48 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: It's too bad. I was here before the cross posting started. There was lots of discussion about amateur metalworking. First, it was Gunner, around 15 years ago. He cross posted to misc.survivalism and the nutbags started to crawl in. Then he added a couple more NGs. Then Cliff (now deceased) picked up the mantle and made it worse. A couple of cranks from other NGs started cross-posting to *here*, but that seems to have died down. Now it's mostly Kopypasta Keller, the dirtbag for all seasons and a moral cretin. He takes a dump on four or five NGs at a time, usually calculated for maximum cross provocation. As someone once said, I'd never wish anyone dead, but there are certain obituaries that it would give me great pleasure to read. It boils down to the unmoderated nature of Usenet. For on-topic stuff I use groups like the one I linked to in my email. Advantages there, and at most all such groups, are categorization, popular threads pinned, FAQs, and built-in searching by category and author. Here's another I've been reading. http://www.cnczone.com/forums/ I could spend days if I had time, without ever having to wade through gun crap, BS artists, etc. My suggestion for a more appropriate name for RCM: DSSBPL (Disgruntled SS Beneficiaries Pretending to be Libertarians) What about ****s in dresses? Are there a lot of ****s in dresses in that group? Ed needs a new group to troll for gay sex. Yawn You need a new shtick... and to come out of the closet. |
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On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 08:10:20 -0700, Nashville Cats wrote:
On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 09:54:20 -0500, Red Prepper wrote: On Tue, 18 Jul 2017 07:08:55 -0700, Nashville Cats wrote: On Mon, 17 Jul 2017 21:03:48 -0400, Ed Huntress wrote: It's too bad. I was here before the cross posting started. There was lots of discussion about amateur metalworking. First, it was Gunner, around 15 years ago. He cross posted to misc.survivalism and the nutbags started to crawl in. Then he added a couple more NGs. Then Cliff (now deceased) picked up the mantle and made it worse. A couple of cranks from other NGs started cross-posting to *here*, but that seems to have died down. Now it's mostly Kopypasta Keller, the dirtbag for all seasons and a moral cretin. He takes a dump on four or five NGs at a time, usually calculated for maximum cross provocation. As someone once said, I'd never wish anyone dead, but there are certain obituaries that it would give me great pleasure to read. It boils down to the unmoderated nature of Usenet. For on-topic stuff I use groups like the one I linked to in my email. Advantages there, and at most all such groups, are categorization, popular threads pinned, FAQs, and built-in searching by category and author. Here's another I've been reading. http://www.cnczone.com/forums/ I could spend days if I had time, without ever having to wade through gun crap, BS artists, etc. My suggestion for a more appropriate name for RCM: DSSBPL (Disgruntled SS Beneficiaries Pretending to be Libertarians) What about ****s in dresses? Are there a lot of ****s in dresses in that group? Ed needs a new group to troll for gay sex. Yawn You need a new shtick... and to come out of the closet. Actually it's pretty safe in the closet now that Ed ****ress has come out. ;-) |
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