On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:25:35 PM UTC-4, Richard Persing wrote:
On 6/9/2017 4:45 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
I was doing some fishing up near the townsite of Toland off the
Burlington Northern railroad near the Moffat Tunnel and noticed their
are no humans controlling the locomotives waiting on the siding while
some train coming the other direction gets the right of way. I guess
some Silicon VAlley startup has figured away to put all railroad
engineers out of work, losing their pensions and livelihood to robots. I
wonder if they're is going to be an uprising as good paying jobs get
eliminated by automation and Amazon.

No, there will be no uprising.

There are no robotic freight trains in the United States. There are a few light-rail passenger lines, especially monorails and subways that have no other traffic intersections, that are autonomous.

As for "losing pensions," not that either.

I think we're getting a look at the way attitudes are shaped among the people who became Trump voters. Facts have nothing to do with it; it's all attitude, conspiracy theories, and empty accusations.

--
Ed Huntress

On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:45:19 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:25:35 PM UTC-4, Richard Persing wrote:
On 6/9/2017 4:45 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
I was doing some fishing up near the townsite of Toland off the
Burlington Northern railroad near the Moffat Tunnel and noticed their
are no humans controlling the locomotives waiting on the siding while
some train coming the other direction gets the right of way. I guess
some Silicon VAlley startup has figured away to put all railroad
engineers out of work, losing their pensions and livelihood to robots. I
wonder if they're is going to be an uprising as good paying jobs get
eliminated by automation and Amazon.

No, there will be no uprising.

There are no robotic freight trains in the United States. There are a few light-rail passenger lines, especially monorails and subways that have no other traffic intersections, that are autonomous.

As for "losing pensions," not that either.

I think we're getting a look at the way attitudes are shaped among the people who became Trump voters. Facts have nothing to do with it; it's all attitude, conspiracy theories, and empty accusations.

Right. Trumpers see driverless cars parked every day. But when they
see a parked train, they can't think of anything to relate it to. And
what about all those planes parked at airports? Think of all the
pilots put out of work by THAT conspiracy.

On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 2:01:22 PM UTC-4, The Times They Are a-Changin' wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:45:19 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:25:35 PM UTC-4, Richard Persing wrote:
On 6/9/2017 4:45 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
I was doing some fishing up near the townsite of Toland off the
Burlington Northern railroad near the Moffat Tunnel and noticed their
are no humans controlling the locomotives waiting on the siding while
some train coming the other direction gets the right of way. I guess
some Silicon VAlley startup has figured away to put all railroad
engineers out of work, losing their pensions and livelihood to robots. I
wonder if they're is going to be an uprising as good paying jobs get
eliminated by automation and Amazon.

No, there will be no uprising.

There are no robotic freight trains in the United States. There are a few light-rail passenger lines, especially monorails and subways that have no other traffic intersections, that are autonomous.

As for "losing pensions," not that either.

I think we're getting a look at the way attitudes are shaped among the people who became Trump voters. Facts have nothing to do with it; it's all attitude, conspiracy theories, and empty accusations.

Right. Trumpers see driverless cars parked every day. But when they
see a parked train, they can't think of anything to relate it to. And
what about all those planes parked at airports? Think of all the
pilots put out of work by THAT conspiracy.

Nobody controlling those parked planes, huh? g

Freight trains have at least two crew members (a conductor and an engineer); sometimes up to five or six. If they're sitting on a siding with the brakes on, they're probably off having coffee.

--
Ed Huntress

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On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:25:35 PM UTC-4, Richard Persing wrote:
On 6/9/2017 4:45 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
I was doing some fishing up near the townsite of Toland off the
Burlington Northern railroad near the Moffat Tunnel and noticed
their
are no humans controlling the locomotives waiting on the siding
while
some train coming the other direction gets the right of way. I
guess
some Silicon VAlley startup has figured away to put all railroad
engineers out of work, losing their pensions and livelihood to
robots. I
wonder if they're is going to be an uprising as good paying jobs
get
eliminated by automation and Amazon.

No, there will be no uprising.

There are no robotic freight trains in the United States. There are
a few light-rail passenger lines, especially monorails and subways
that have no other traffic intersections, that are autonomous.

As for "losing pensions," not that either.

I think we're getting a look at the way attitudes are shaped among
the people who became Trump voters. Facts have nothing to do with
it; it's all attitude, conspiracy theories, and empty accusations.

--
Ed Huntress

Bitter much???

On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 5:43:55 PM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:25:35 PM UTC-4, Richard Persing wrote:
On 6/9/2017 4:45 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
I was doing some fishing up near the townsite of Toland off the
Burlington Northern railroad near the Moffat Tunnel and noticed
their
are no humans controlling the locomotives waiting on the siding
while
some train coming the other direction gets the right of way. I
guess
some Silicon VAlley startup has figured away to put all railroad
engineers out of work, losing their pensions and livelihood to
robots. I
wonder if they're is going to be an uprising as good paying jobs
get
eliminated by automation and Amazon.

No, there will be no uprising.

There are no robotic freight trains in the United States. There are
a few light-rail passenger lines, especially monorails and subways
that have no other traffic intersections, that are autonomous.

As for "losing pensions," not that either.

I think we're getting a look at the way attitudes are shaped among
the people who became Trump voters. Facts have nothing to do with
it; it's all attitude, conspiracy theories, and empty accusations.

--
Ed Huntress

Bitter much???

Not really, but I am observant.

--
Ed Huntress

On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:44:05 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:25:35 PM UTC-4, Richard Persing wrote:
On 6/9/2017 4:45 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
I was doing some fishing up near the townsite of Toland off the
Burlington Northern railroad near the Moffat Tunnel and noticed
their
are no humans controlling the locomotives waiting on the siding
while
some train coming the other direction gets the right of way. I
guess
some Silicon VAlley startup has figured away to put all railroad
engineers out of work, losing their pensions and livelihood to
robots. I
wonder if they're is going to be an uprising as good paying jobs
get
eliminated by automation and Amazon.

No, there will be no uprising.

There are no robotic freight trains in the United States. There are
a few light-rail passenger lines, especially monorails and subways
that have no other traffic intersections, that are autonomous.

As for "losing pensions," not that either.

I think we're getting a look at the way attitudes are shaped among
the people who became Trump voters. Facts have nothing to do with
it; it's all attitude, conspiracy theories, and empty accusations.

--
Ed Huntress

Bitter much???

He hates it when he gets it so badly wrong and gets called on it.

Shrug

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On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 5:43:55 PM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:25:35 PM UTC-4, Richard Persing
wrote:
On 6/9/2017 4:45 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
I was doing some fishing up near the townsite of Toland off
the
Burlington Northern railroad near the Moffat Tunnel and
noticed
their
are no humans controlling the locomotives waiting on the
siding
while
some train coming the other direction gets the right of way.
I
guess
some Silicon VAlley startup has figured away to put all
railroad
engineers out of work, losing their pensions and livelihood to
robots. I
wonder if they're is going to be an uprising as good paying
jobs
get
eliminated by automation and Amazon.

No, there will be no uprising.

There are no robotic freight trains in the United States. There
are
a few light-rail passenger lines, especially monorails and
subways
that have no other traffic intersections, that are autonomous.

As for "losing pensions," not that either.

I think we're getting a look at the way attitudes are shaped
among
the people who became Trump voters. Facts have nothing to do with
it; it's all attitude, conspiracy theories, and empty
accusations.

--
Ed Huntress

Bitter much???

Not really, but I am observant.

--
Ed Huntress

Where is the "love" those love-Trumps-hate protesters claim?

On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 6:24:14 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:44:05 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:25:35 PM UTC-4, Richard Persing wrote:
On 6/9/2017 4:45 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
I was doing some fishing up near the townsite of Toland off the
Burlington Northern railroad near the Moffat Tunnel and noticed
their
are no humans controlling the locomotives waiting on the siding
while
some train coming the other direction gets the right of way. I
guess
some Silicon VAlley startup has figured away to put all railroad
engineers out of work, losing their pensions and livelihood to
robots. I
wonder if they're is going to be an uprising as good paying jobs
get
eliminated by automation and Amazon.

No, there will be no uprising.

There are no robotic freight trains in the United States. There are
a few light-rail passenger lines, especially monorails and subways
that have no other traffic intersections, that are autonomous.

As for "losing pensions," not that either.

I think we're getting a look at the way attitudes are shaped among
the people who became Trump voters. Facts have nothing to do with
it; it's all attitude, conspiracy theories, and empty accusations.

--
Ed Huntress

Bitter much???

He hates it when he gets it so badly wrong and gets called on it.

Shrug

You ignorant ass. I got it exactly right.

--
Ed Huntress

On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 6:25:53 PM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 5:43:55 PM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:25:35 PM UTC-4, Richard Persing
wrote:
On 6/9/2017 4:45 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
I was doing some fishing up near the townsite of Toland off
the
Burlington Northern railroad near the Moffat Tunnel and
noticed
their
are no humans controlling the locomotives waiting on the
siding
while
some train coming the other direction gets the right of way.
I
guess
some Silicon VAlley startup has figured away to put all
railroad
engineers out of work, losing their pensions and livelihood to
robots. I
wonder if they're is going to be an uprising as good paying
jobs
get
eliminated by automation and Amazon.

No, there will be no uprising.

There are no robotic freight trains in the United States. There
are
a few light-rail passenger lines, especially monorails and
subways
that have no other traffic intersections, that are autonomous.

As for "losing pensions," not that either.

I think we're getting a look at the way attitudes are shaped
among
the people who became Trump voters. Facts have nothing to do with
it; it's all attitude, conspiracy theories, and empty
accusations.

--
Ed Huntress

Bitter much???

Not really, but I am observant.

--
Ed Huntress

Where is the "love" those love-Trumps-hate protesters claim?

Join them in a protest and maybe you'll find out.

--
Ed Huntress

On 6/12/2017 12:45 PM, wrote:
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:25:35 PM UTC-4, Richard Persing wrote:
On 6/9/2017 4:45 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
I was doing some fishing up near the townsite of Toland off the
Burlington Northern railroad near the Moffat Tunnel and noticed their
are no humans controlling the locomotives waiting on the siding while
some train coming the other direction gets the right of way. I guess
some Silicon VAlley startup has figured away to put all railroad
engineers out of work, losing their pensions and livelihood to robots. I
wonder if they're is going to be an uprising as good paying jobs get
eliminated by automation and Amazon.

No, there will be no uprising.

There are no robotic freight trains in the United States. There are a few light-rail passenger lines, especially monorails and subways that have no other traffic intersections, that are autonomous.

As for "losing pensions," not that either.

I think we're getting a look at the way attitudes are shaped among the people who became Trump voters. Facts have nothing to do with it; it's all attitude, conspiracy theories, and empty accusations.

There's a switch yard in Council Bluffs where the U.P. sets up freight
trains to go either East or West. It's called The Jay as that's the way
the intersection is shaped. They use unmanned engines there all the
time. These engine cross numerous Council Bluffs streets all the time.
When I saw it I couldn't believe they were unmanned so I watched them
(more than one engine) do their work for about a half hour. Sometimes I
saw a switchman stand at the switch, other times I didn't see one, but
I'm sure he was there, as someone had to couple-decouple.

Steve

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On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 6:25:53 PM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 5:43:55 PM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:25:35 PM UTC-4, Richard Persing
wrote:
On 6/9/2017 4:45 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
I was doing some fishing up near the townsite of Toland off
the
Burlington Northern railroad near the Moffat Tunnel and
noticed
their
are no humans controlling the locomotives waiting on the
siding
while
some train coming the other direction gets the right of
way.
I
guess
some Silicon VAlley startup has figured away to put all
railroad
engineers out of work, losing their pensions and livelihood
to
robots. I
wonder if they're is going to be an uprising as good paying
jobs
get
eliminated by automation and Amazon.

No, there will be no uprising.

There are no robotic freight trains in the United States.
There
are
a few light-rail passenger lines, especially monorails and
subways
that have no other traffic intersections, that are autonomous.

As for "losing pensions," not that either.

I think we're getting a look at the way attitudes are shaped
among
the people who became Trump voters. Facts have nothing to do
with
it; it's all attitude, conspiracy theories, and empty
accusations.

--
Ed Huntress

Bitter much???

Not really, but I am observant.

--
Ed Huntress

Where is the "love" those love-Trumps-hate protesters claim?

Join them in a protest and maybe you'll find out.

--
Ed Huntress

Libs lie? Have they no shame?

On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 8:46:46 PM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 6:25:53 PM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 5:43:55 PM UTC-4, Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:25:35 PM UTC-4, Richard Persing
wrote:
On 6/9/2017 4:45 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
I was doing some fishing up near the townsite of Toland off
the
Burlington Northern railroad near the Moffat Tunnel and
noticed
their
are no humans controlling the locomotives waiting on the
siding
while
some train coming the other direction gets the right of
way.
I
guess
some Silicon VAlley startup has figured away to put all
railroad
engineers out of work, losing their pensions and livelihood
to
robots. I
wonder if they're is going to be an uprising as good paying
jobs
get
eliminated by automation and Amazon.

No, there will be no uprising.

There are no robotic freight trains in the United States.
There
are
a few light-rail passenger lines, especially monorails and
subways
that have no other traffic intersections, that are autonomous.

As for "losing pensions," not that either.

I think we're getting a look at the way attitudes are shaped
among
the people who became Trump voters. Facts have nothing to do
with
it; it's all attitude, conspiracy theories, and empty
accusations.

--
Ed Huntress

Bitter much???

Not really, but I am observant.

--
Ed Huntress

Where is the "love" those love-Trumps-hate protesters claim?

Join them in a protest and maybe you'll find out.

--
Ed Huntress

Libs lie? Have they no shame?

Non sequitur much?

--
Ed Huntress

On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 8:13:29 PM UTC-4, googlemyass wrote:
On 6/12/2017 12:45 PM, wrote:
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:25:35 PM UTC-4, Richard Persing wrote:
On 6/9/2017 4:45 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
I was doing some fishing up near the townsite of Toland off the
Burlington Northern railroad near the Moffat Tunnel and noticed their
are no humans controlling the locomotives waiting on the siding while
some train coming the other direction gets the right of way. I guess
some Silicon VAlley startup has figured away to put all railroad
engineers out of work, losing their pensions and livelihood to robots.. I
wonder if they're is going to be an uprising as good paying jobs get
eliminated by automation and Amazon.

No, there will be no uprising.

There are no robotic freight trains in the United States. There are a few light-rail passenger lines, especially monorails and subways that have no other traffic intersections, that are autonomous.

As for "losing pensions," not that either.

I think we're getting a look at the way attitudes are shaped among the people who became Trump voters. Facts have nothing to do with it; it's all attitude, conspiracy theories, and empty accusations.

There's a switch yard in Council Bluffs where the U.P. sets up freight
trains to go either East or West. It's called The Jay as that's the way
the intersection is shaped. They use unmanned engines there all the
time. These engine cross numerous Council Bluffs streets all the time.
When I saw it I couldn't believe they were unmanned so I watched them
(more than one engine) do their work for about a half hour. Sometimes I
saw a switchman stand at the switch, other times I didn't see one, but
I'm sure he was there, as someone had to couple-decouple.

Steve

I don't know the story there, Steve, but FRA regulations currently require a one-man crew as a minimum, and has a list of exceptions that require a two-man crew. According to the industry, the major carriers all use two-man crews (larger for switching situations). The industry is lobbying for autonomous trains and there were big hearings last year, but nothing has come of it yet.

--
Ed Huntress

On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 18:05:53 -0700 (PDT), wrote:


There are no robotic freight trains in the United States.

My son has been installing ore trucks on the mines in the Pilbara with
remote controls. No drivers on board, just a warm body in Perth,
about 1000 km away controlling them. Probably requires more skill to
control them remotely.

Alan

On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:24:17 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:44:05 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:25:35 PM UTC-4, Richard Persing wrote:
On 6/9/2017 4:45 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
I was doing some fishing up near the townsite of Toland off the
Burlington Northern railroad near the Moffat Tunnel and noticed
their
are no humans controlling the locomotives waiting on the siding
while
some train coming the other direction gets the right of way. I
guess
some Silicon VAlley startup has figured away to put all railroad
engineers out of work, losing their pensions and livelihood to
robots. I
wonder if they're is going to be an uprising as good paying jobs
get
eliminated by automation and Amazon.

No, there will be no uprising.

There are no robotic freight trains in the United States. There are
a few light-rail passenger lines, especially monorails and subways
that have no other traffic intersections, that are autonomous.

As for "losing pensions," not that either.

I think we're getting a look at the way attitudes are shaped among
the people who became Trump voters. Facts have nothing to do with
it; it's all attitude, conspiracy theories, and empty accusations.

--
Ed Huntress

Bitter much???

He hates it when he gets it so badly wrong and gets called on it.

Shrug

Sort of like that Wieber guy when someone posts the list of all the
exciting and heroic things that he claims he has accomplished.
The two tours in Vietnam, the (what was it) 365mph motorcycle, the
expensive lot his decrepit double wide sits on, and on.

The problem seems to be that Ed gets it right most of the tine while
Wieber and his ilk get it wrong most of the time.

And, to make it even worse that snake in the grass Ed frequently posts
references to prove he is right while Wieber, et al, never provide
proof.

It must be some sort of inverse reality when those who prove their
statements are wrong while those that do not prove their statement are
right.
--
Cheers,

Schweik

On 6/13/2017 3:53 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:24:17 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:44:05 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:25:35 PM UTC-4, Richard Persing wrote:
On 6/9/2017 4:45 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
I was doing some fishing up near the townsite of Toland off the
Burlington Northern railroad near the Moffat Tunnel and noticed
their
are no humans controlling the locomotives waiting on the siding
while
some train coming the other direction gets the right of way. I
guess
some Silicon VAlley startup has figured away to put all railroad
engineers out of work, losing their pensions and livelihood to
robots. I
wonder if they're is going to be an uprising as good paying jobs
get
eliminated by automation and Amazon.

No, there will be no uprising.

There are no robotic freight trains in the United States. There are
a few light-rail passenger lines, especially monorails and subways
that have no other traffic intersections, that are autonomous.

As for "losing pensions," not that either.

I think we're getting a look at the way attitudes are shaped among
the people who became Trump voters. Facts have nothing to do with
it; it's all attitude, conspiracy theories, and empty accusations.

--
Ed Huntress

Bitter much???

He hates it when he gets it so badly wrong and gets called on it.

Shrug

Sort of like that Wieber guy when someone posts the list of all the
exciting and heroic things that he claims he has accomplished.
The two tours in Vietnam, the (what was it) 365mph motorcycle,

He only "officially" claimed 264mph, but I wouldn't be surprised to see
the speed fluctuate over time.

The story is a lie, of course. No one even believes he has ridden a
motorcycle at 150mph.


the expensive lot

....which he doesn't own...

his decrepit double wide sits on, and on.

The problem seems to be that Ed gets it right most of the tine while
Wieber and his ilk get it wrong most of the time.

Yes, exactly.



And, to make it even worse that snake in the grass Ed frequently posts
references to prove he is right while Wieber, et al, never provide
proof.

Occasionally Wieber posts a link to some nonsense fake news site, but
the garbage is easily discredited.


It must be some sort of inverse reality when those who prove their
statements are wrong while those that do not prove their statement are
right.

"Alternate" facts.

On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:38:53 -0700, Richard Persing
wrote:

On 6/13/2017 3:53 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 15:24:17 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:44:05 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:25:35 PM UTC-4, Richard Persing wrote:
On 6/9/2017 4:45 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
I was doing some fishing up near the townsite of Toland off the
Burlington Northern railroad near the Moffat Tunnel and noticed
their
are no humans controlling the locomotives waiting on the siding
while
some train coming the other direction gets the right of way. I
guess
some Silicon VAlley startup has figured away to put all railroad
engineers out of work, losing their pensions and livelihood to
robots. I
wonder if they're is going to be an uprising as good paying jobs
get
eliminated by automation and Amazon.

No, there will be no uprising.

There are no robotic freight trains in the United States. There are
a few light-rail passenger lines, especially monorails and subways
that have no other traffic intersections, that are autonomous.

As for "losing pensions," not that either.

I think we're getting a look at the way attitudes are shaped among
the people who became Trump voters. Facts have nothing to do with
it; it's all attitude, conspiracy theories, and empty accusations.

--
Ed Huntress

Bitter much???

He hates it when he gets it so badly wrong and gets called on it.

Shrug

Sort of like that Wieber guy when someone posts the list of all the
exciting and heroic things that he claims he has accomplished.
The two tours in Vietnam, the (what was it) 365mph motorcycle,

He only "officially" claimed 264mph, but I wouldn't be surprised to see
the speed fluctuate over time.

Yes, I did know that but as Wieber sees no fault in embellishing his
posts I thought I'd just follow along in his footsteps :-)

The story is a lie, of course. No one even believes he has ridden a
motorcycle at 150mph.


the expensive lot

...which he doesn't own...

his decrepit double wide sits on, and on.

The problem seems to be that Ed gets it right most of the tine while
Wieber and his ilk get it wrong most of the time.

Yes, exactly.



And, to make it even worse that snake in the grass Ed frequently posts
references to prove he is right while Wieber, et al, never provide
proof.

Occasionally Wieber posts a link to some nonsense fake news site, but
the garbage is easily discredited.


It must be some sort of inverse reality when those who prove their
statements are wrong while those that do not prove their statement are
right.

"Alternate" facts.
--
Cheers,

Schweik

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On Monday, June 12, 2017 at 1:25:35 PM UTC-4, Richard Persing wrote:
On 6/9/2017 4:45 PM, Steve from Colorado wrote:
I was doing some fishing up near the townsite of Toland off the
Burlington Northern railroad near the Moffat Tunnel and noticed
their
are no humans controlling the locomotives waiting on the siding
while
some train coming the other direction gets the right of way. I
guess
some Silicon VAlley startup has figured away to put all railroad
engineers out of work, losing their pensions and livelihood to
robots. I
wonder if they're is going to be an uprising as good paying jobs
get
eliminated by automation and Amazon.

No, there will be no uprising.

There are no robotic freight trains in the United States. There are
a few light-rail passenger lines, especially monorails and subways
that have no other traffic intersections, that are autonomous.

As for "losing pensions," not that either.

I think we're getting a look at the way attitudes are shaped among
the people who became Trump voters. Facts have nothing to do with
it; it's all attitude, conspiracy theories, and empty accusations.

Loners way out in the hills.

On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 4:59:01 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 10:09:27 -0700, Hurricane wrote:

On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:38:53 -0700, Richard Persing
wrote:

On 6/13/2017 3:53 AM, wrote:

Sort of like that Wieber guy when someone posts the list of all the
exciting and heroic things that he claims he has accomplished.
The two tours in Vietnam, the (what was it) 365mph motorcycle,

He only "officially" claimed 264mph, but I wouldn't be surprised to see
the speed fluctuate over time.

The story is a lie, of course. No one even believes he has ridden a
motorcycle at 150mph.

I wouldn't be surprised if Wieber's motorcycle experience is
essentially non-existent. His habit is to make up crazy stories about
whatever thing he wishes he'd accomplished. Even giving the benefit of
the doubt to his story that he used to ride an old BMW twin, it's most
likely he's never been over 100mph. He has, or had, a dust encrusted
junker in his yard. http://tinyurl.com/ycmtqswa Gotta' love that sissy
bar! LOL He says it's an R90/6, but of course, the engine emblems and
side covers are long gone, which is exactly the type of thing Wieber
would do to further inflate his story. So it's very likely an R60/6.
Regardless, somewhere between 40 to 60 hp if it was in good condition
and tune, two things that would never be true of anything Wieber owns.
He won't post a photo of registration because even if the thing was
ever registered in his name, it would show how many decades it's been
since he's ridden. BTW, those old BMWs were highly overrated in their
day. I know, because I had a '77 R100RS, and was very happy when I got
rid of it.

This the best you can do...trying to say a R90/6 is a R60/6?

https://goo.gl/photos/zSL5ietBG8r75rGE9

https://goo.gl/photos/z4mqvUcspm5TbUP67

https://goo.gl/photos/F3g2GGqYuDYsAKBx7


Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh!!

Nothing in that phot0 tells us it's an R90. The R60 looks the same -- I rode one from Lausanne to Dusseldorf, and it looks like the same bike.

--
Ed Huntress

On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 17:19:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 4:59:01 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 10:09:27 -0700, Hurricane wrote:

On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:38:53 -0700, Richard Persing
wrote:

On 6/13/2017 3:53 AM, wrote:

Sort of like that Wieber guy when someone posts the list of all the
exciting and heroic things that he claims he has accomplished.
The two tours in Vietnam, the (what was it) 365mph motorcycle,

He only "officially" claimed 264mph, but I wouldn't be surprised to see
the speed fluctuate over time.

The story is a lie, of course. No one even believes he has ridden a
motorcycle at 150mph.

I wouldn't be surprised if Wieber's motorcycle experience is
essentially non-existent. His habit is to make up crazy stories about
whatever thing he wishes he'd accomplished. Even giving the benefit of
the doubt to his story that he used to ride an old BMW twin, it's most
likely he's never been over 100mph. He has, or had, a dust encrusted
junker in his yard. http://tinyurl.com/ycmtqswa Gotta' love that sissy
bar! LOL He says it's an R90/6, but of course, the engine emblems and
side covers are long gone, which is exactly the type of thing Wieber
would do to further inflate his story. So it's very likely an R60/6.
Regardless, somewhere between 40 to 60 hp if it was in good condition
and tune, two things that would never be true of anything Wieber owns.
He won't post a photo of registration because even if the thing was
ever registered in his name, it would show how many decades it's been
since he's ridden. BTW, those old BMWs were highly overrated in their
day. I know, because I had a '77 R100RS, and was very happy when I got
rid of it.

This the best you can do...trying to say a R90/6 is a R60/6?

https://goo.gl/photos/zSL5ietBG8r75rGE9

https://goo.gl/photos/z4mqvUcspm5TbUP67

https://goo.gl/photos/F3g2GGqYuDYsAKBx7


Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh!!

Nothing in that phot0 tells us it's an R90. The R60 looks the same -- I rode one from Lausanne to Dusseldorf, and it looks like the same bike.

I wish you lived close enough to take my bike for a spin. Almost 4
times the horsepower and light years better than the old beemers in
almost every respect. I see that the simpler boxers are finding new
life in hipster land, as retro "cafe racers." This guy's youtube
channel https://www.youtube.com/user/10341037 has many compilations of
examples. Stripped down, no battery, often no fenders, block tread
tires, etc. Some are more art than practical. But the class does
provide low cost riding for those who live where they can get
insurance for such things. I talked to a friend yesterday who owns a
vintage ('81 IIRC) bike. If he lets his insurance lapse, it can't be
renewed. He says that in his area some get around the problem with
vintage registration, which technically only allows limited use.

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 10:41:46 AM UTC-4, Hurricane wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 17:19:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 4:59:01 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 10:09:27 -0700, Hurricane wrote:

On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:38:53 -0700, Richard Persing
wrote:

On 6/13/2017 3:53 AM, wrote:

Sort of like that Wieber guy when someone posts the list of all the
exciting and heroic things that he claims he has accomplished.
The two tours in Vietnam, the (what was it) 365mph motorcycle,

He only "officially" claimed 264mph, but I wouldn't be surprised to see
the speed fluctuate over time.

The story is a lie, of course. No one even believes he has ridden a
motorcycle at 150mph.

I wouldn't be surprised if Wieber's motorcycle experience is
essentially non-existent. His habit is to make up crazy stories about
whatever thing he wishes he'd accomplished. Even giving the benefit of
the doubt to his story that he used to ride an old BMW twin, it's most
likely he's never been over 100mph. He has, or had, a dust encrusted
junker in his yard. http://tinyurl.com/ycmtqswa Gotta' love that sissy
bar! LOL He says it's an R90/6, but of course, the engine emblems and
side covers are long gone, which is exactly the type of thing Wieber
would do to further inflate his story. So it's very likely an R60/6.
Regardless, somewhere between 40 to 60 hp if it was in good condition
and tune, two things that would never be true of anything Wieber owns..
He won't post a photo of registration because even if the thing was
ever registered in his name, it would show how many decades it's been
since he's ridden. BTW, those old BMWs were highly overrated in their
day. I know, because I had a '77 R100RS, and was very happy when I got
rid of it.

This the best you can do...trying to say a R90/6 is a R60/6?

https://goo.gl/photos/zSL5ietBG8r75rGE9

https://goo.gl/photos/z4mqvUcspm5TbUP67

https://goo.gl/photos/F3g2GGqYuDYsAKBx7


Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh!!

Nothing in that phot0 tells us it's an R90. The R60 looks the same -- I rode one from Lausanne to Dusseldorf, and it looks like the same bike.

I wish you lived close enough to take my bike for a spin. Almost 4
times the horsepower and light years better than the old beemers in
almost every respect.

It probably would scare the **** out of me. g My fastest bike was a 1967 Triumph TR6 -- the single-carb version of the Bonneville. It almost coughed and died going over Loveland Pass on old Rt. 6 (12,000 ft.), but that was before I-70 was completed and it was the only way to go. I thought I was going to have to push it over the top and that ain't easy at 12,000 ft.

I see that the simpler boxers are finding new
life in hipster land, as retro "cafe racers." This guy's youtube
channel https://www.youtube.com/user/10341037 has many compilations of
examples. Stripped down, no battery, often no fenders, block tread
tires, etc. Some are more art than practical. But the class does
provide low cost riding for those who live where they can get
insurance for such things. I talked to a friend yesterday who owns a
vintage ('81 IIRC) bike. If he lets his insurance lapse, it can't be
renewed. He says that in his area some get around the problem with
vintage registration, which technically only allows limited use.

Interesting. That explains a couple of things. In Paris, in the late '70s, a "cafe racer" was any smallish or medium pocket rocket with a lot of fairing.

I had never heard the term before, but after watching those videos, now I understand some bikes of the period. In Greenwich Village and East Village in the late '60s there were a few bikes with those long tanks and short saddles, usually Harley-engined but with a few Triumphs and BSAs, and with hard tails. From what I could tell, these were not original hard-tail Harley frames, but were welded into hard tails.

I saw a couple of the same bikes in Provincetown, Cape Cod, a few years later. I never knew what they were about and I never heard them called "cafe racers," but they looked a lot like the Brit examples, except with the hard-tail frames.

If I had a classic bike I'd want John Surtees's MV Augusta from the 1956 Isle of Man TT:

http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-joh...-60076747.html

Or maybe a Norton Manx of the same period:

http://www.racingvincent.co.uk/25_Bi...20Manx%201.jpg

I'll bet that those bikes, particularly the Norton, were the styling cues for the cafe racers.

--
Ed Huntress

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 10:41:46 AM UTC-4, Hurricane wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 17:19:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 4:59:01 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 10:09:27 -0700, Hurricane wrote:

On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:38:53 -0700, Richard Persing
wrote:

On 6/13/2017 3:53 AM, wrote:

Sort of like that Wieber guy when someone posts the list of all the
exciting and heroic things that he claims he has accomplished.
The two tours in Vietnam, the (what was it) 365mph motorcycle,

He only "officially" claimed 264mph, but I wouldn't be surprised to see
the speed fluctuate over time.

The story is a lie, of course. No one even believes he has ridden a
motorcycle at 150mph.

I wouldn't be surprised if Wieber's motorcycle experience is
essentially non-existent. His habit is to make up crazy stories about
whatever thing he wishes he'd accomplished. Even giving the benefit of
the doubt to his story that he used to ride an old BMW twin, it's most
likely he's never been over 100mph. He has, or had, a dust encrusted
junker in his yard. http://tinyurl.com/ycmtqswa Gotta' love that sissy
bar! LOL He says it's an R90/6, but of course, the engine emblems and
side covers are long gone, which is exactly the type of thing Wieber
would do to further inflate his story. So it's very likely an R60/6.
Regardless, somewhere between 40 to 60 hp if it was in good condition
and tune, two things that would never be true of anything Wieber owns.
He won't post a photo of registration because even if the thing was
ever registered in his name, it would show how many decades it's been
since he's ridden. BTW, those old BMWs were highly overrated in their
day. I know, because I had a '77 R100RS, and was very happy when I got
rid of it.

This the best you can do...trying to say a R90/6 is a R60/6?

https://goo.gl/photos/zSL5ietBG8r75rGE9

https://goo.gl/photos/z4mqvUcspm5TbUP67

https://goo.gl/photos/F3g2GGqYuDYsAKBx7


Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh!!

Nothing in that phot0 tells us it's an R90. The R60 looks the same -- I rode one from Lausanne to Dusseldorf, and it looks like the same bike.

I wish you lived close enough to take my bike for a spin. Almost 4
times the horsepower and light years better than the old beemers in
almost every respect. I see that the simpler boxers are finding new
life in hipster land, as retro "cafe racers." This guy's youtube
channel https://www.youtube.com/user/10341037 has many compilations of
examples. Stripped down, no battery, often no fenders, block tread
tires, etc. Some are more art than practical. But the class does
provide low cost riding for those who live where they can get
insurance for such things. I talked to a friend yesterday who owns a
vintage ('81 IIRC) bike. If he lets his insurance lapse, it can't be
renewed. He says that in his area some get around the problem with
vintage registration, which technically only allows limited use.

BTW, are you getting my emails?

--
Ed Huntress

On Sun, 18 Jun 2017 10:20:08 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Sunday, June 18, 2017 at 10:41:46 AM UTC-4, Hurricane wrote:
On Sat, 17 Jun 2017 17:19:10 -0700 (PDT), wrote:

On Saturday, June 17, 2017 at 4:59:01 PM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 10:09:27 -0700, Hurricane wrote:

On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:38:53 -0700, Richard Persing
wrote:

On 6/13/2017 3:53 AM, wrote:

Sort of like that Wieber guy when someone posts the list of all the
exciting and heroic things that he claims he has accomplished.
The two tours in Vietnam, the (what was it) 365mph motorcycle,

He only "officially" claimed 264mph, but I wouldn't be surprised to see
the speed fluctuate over time.

The story is a lie, of course. No one even believes he has ridden a
motorcycle at 150mph.

I wouldn't be surprised if Wieber's motorcycle experience is
essentially non-existent. His habit is to make up crazy stories about
whatever thing he wishes he'd accomplished. Even giving the benefit of
the doubt to his story that he used to ride an old BMW twin, it's most
likely he's never been over 100mph. He has, or had, a dust encrusted
junker in his yard. http://tinyurl.com/ycmtqswa Gotta' love that sissy
bar! LOL He says it's an R90/6, but of course, the engine emblems and
side covers are long gone, which is exactly the type of thing Wieber
would do to further inflate his story. So it's very likely an R60/6.
Regardless, somewhere between 40 to 60 hp if it was in good condition
and tune, two things that would never be true of anything Wieber owns.
He won't post a photo of registration because even if the thing was
ever registered in his name, it would show how many decades it's been
since he's ridden. BTW, those old BMWs were highly overrated in their
day. I know, because I had a '77 R100RS, and was very happy when I got
rid of it.

This the best you can do...trying to say a R90/6 is a R60/6?

https://goo.gl/photos/zSL5ietBG8r75rGE9

https://goo.gl/photos/z4mqvUcspm5TbUP67

https://goo.gl/photos/F3g2GGqYuDYsAKBx7


Laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh laugh!!

Nothing in that phot0 tells us it's an R90. The R60 looks the same -- I rode one from Lausanne to Dusseldorf, and it looks like the same bike.

I wish you lived close enough to take my bike for a spin. Almost 4
times the horsepower and light years better than the old beemers in
almost every respect. I see that the simpler boxers are finding new
life in hipster land, as retro "cafe racers." This guy's youtube
channel https://www.youtube.com/user/10341037 has many compilations of
examples. Stripped down, no battery, often no fenders, block tread
tires, etc. Some are more art than practical. But the class does
provide low cost riding for those who live where they can get
insurance for such things. I talked to a friend yesterday who owns a
vintage ('81 IIRC) bike. If he lets his insurance lapse, it can't be
renewed. He says that in his area some get around the problem with
vintage registration, which technically only allows limited use.

BTW, are you getting my emails?

Yeah, but I didn't see them until I looked just now. Got company
coming, will respond later.