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1/16" drill bit won't fit a 1/2" chuck
I've been culling my collection of crap.
Decided to reduce the number of incompatible cordless tools and dead batteries. I bought one of the Ryobi 1/2" lithium drill kits. I don't need 1/2", but that's what was on sale. I never drill big holes, but I often drill small ones. It was an online deal, so I couldn't inspect it beforehand. I shot myself in the foot. The 1/2" chuck won't close on a 1/16" bit. Only reasonably priced solution I've found is a bit with a 1/4" hex shank. There are a bunch of issues with that. Only thing I can think of is to cut a slit in some 1/16" ID brass tubing. That oughta be good enough. I can always use a different 3/8" drill if necessary. So, how can I cut a NARROW slit in a section of 1/16" ID brass tubing? I have a .025" Dremel cutoff wheel, but by the time I get done by hand, I expect there won't be much brass left. I have some 1/8" shank NC drill bits, but they're extremely fragile. I'd break 'em in an instant with a hand drill. I have a Dremel chuck with a 1/8" shank, but by the time I stack all that up, the tip of the drill bit is WAY out there. Other options that don't involve buying a new drill or a new chuck or a $25 drill bit? |
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1/16" drill bit won't fit a 1/2" chuck
On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 10:26:36 PM UTC-7, mike wrote:
\ I bought one of the Ryobi 1/2" lithium drill kits. I don't need 1/2", but that's what was on sale. I never drill big holes, but I often drill small ones. The 1/2" chuck won't close on a 1/16" bit. That's only the tip of the iceberg. Half-inch drills often don't rotate fast enough for those small bits anyway. That 1/16" bit won't work well (on stainless, for instance) if it doesn't go at least 2000 rpm. For a half-inch drill, 300 rpm is good. So, what's the speed range of the lithium drill kit? 1600 rpm max? |
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1/16" drill bit won't fit a 1/2" chuck
On Mon, 22 May 2017 22:25:04 -0700, mike wrote:
I've been culling my collection of crap. Decided to reduce the number of incompatible cordless tools and dead batteries. I bought one of the Ryobi 1/2" lithium drill kits. I don't need 1/2", but that's what was on sale. I never drill big holes, but I often drill small ones. It was an online deal, so I couldn't inspect it beforehand. I shot myself in the foot. The 1/2" chuck won't close on a 1/16" bit. I have two Ryobi 1/2" drills, both will close on 1/16. I love the combination of compact drill and 1/2" chuck. I can't remember exactly why, but I have a hand drill collet that I've cut off the end of the plastic handle, exposing enough metal to fit into a chuck. Maybe you could do something similar with a precision drill holder. Those frequently come with a selection of tiny bits for about $5. |
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1/16" drill bit won't fit a 1/2" chuck
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news I've been culling my collection of crap. Decided to reduce the number of incompatible cordless tools and dead batteries. I bought one of the Ryobi 1/2" lithium drill kits. I don't need 1/2", but that's what was on sale. I never drill big holes, but I often drill small ones. It was an online deal, so I couldn't inspect it beforehand. I shot myself in the foot. The 1/2" chuck won't close on a 1/16" bit. Only reasonably priced solution I've found is a bit with a 1/4" hex shank. There are a bunch of issues with that. https://www.mcfeelys.com/snappy-1-16...FUmHswodkcACEA -jsw |
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1/16" drill bit won't fit a 1/2" chuck
mike wrote:
So, how can I cut a NARROW slit in a section of 1/16" ID brass tubing? I have a .025" Dremel cutoff wheel, but by the time I get done by hand, I expect there won't be much brass left. Well, You could use an X-acto saw, although it would wear the blade (their blades are really soft). You could reshape an old X-acto blade into a skiving tool, Put an old drill shank in the tubing and hold it in a vise for the procedure. To fashion a skiving tool (my own word for it) you use a bench stone and make the X-acto blade like a tiny chisel blade. It only takes about 30 seconds to reshape the end of a worn-out blade. Then, you run the blade down the brass, using the vise jaw as a guide. It will take 1-2 minutes to cut through to the drill shank, and you should get a very narrow slit. You swipe the blade "backwards" with the straight edge of the blade at right angles to the brass. it will bring up little curls as it cuts through. Wish I could show this being done, it is easier to show than describe. Jon |
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1/16" drill bit won't fit a 1/2" chuck
"mike" wrote in message
news ... Other options that don't involve buying a new drill or a new chuck or a $25 drill bit? Assuming you have a metal lathe (this is r.c.m.) you could drill a 1/4" bolt with a solid shank lengthwise for the drill shank and then drill and tap crosswise through the hex head for a setscrew. -jsw |
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1/16" drill bit won't fit a 1/2" chuck
On 23/05/17 06:25, mike wrote:
I've been culling my collection of crap. Decided to reduce the number of incompatible cordless tools and dead batteries. I bought one of the Ryobi 1/2" lithium drill kits. I don't need 1/2", but that's what was on sale. I never drill big holes, but I often drill small ones. It was an online deal, so I couldn't inspect it beforehand. I shot myself in the foot. The 1/2" chuck won't close on a 1/16" bit. Only reasonably priced solution I've found is a bit with a 1/4" hex shank. There are a bunch of issues with that. Only thing I can think of is to cut a slit in some 1/16" ID brass tubing. That oughta be good enough. I can always use a different 3/8" drill if necessary. So, how can I cut a NARROW slit in a section of 1/16" ID brass tubing? I have a .025" Dremel cutoff wheel, but by the time I get done by hand, I expect there won't be much brass left. I have some 1/8" shank NC drill bits, but they're extremely fragile. I'd break 'em in an instant with a hand drill. I have a Dremel chuck with a 1/8" shank, but by the time I stack all that up, the tip of the drill bit is WAY out there. Other options that don't involve buying a new drill or a new chuck or a $25 drill bit? Sounds like you need to buy a pin chuck, 3rd item down on this page http://www.productsengineering.com/m...pinchucks.html . |
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1/16" drill bit won't fit a 1/2" chuck
On Tuesday, May 23, 2017 at 1:26:36 AM UTC-4, mike wrote:
I've been culling my collection of crap. Decided to reduce the number of incompatible cordless tools and dead batteries. I bought one of the Ryobi 1/2" lithium drill kits. I don't need 1/2", but that's what was on sale. I never drill big holes, but I often drill small ones. It was an online deal, so I couldn't inspect it beforehand. I shot myself in the foot. The 1/2" chuck won't close on a 1/16" bit. Only reasonably priced solution I've found is a bit with a 1/4" hex shank. There are a bunch of issues with that. Only thing I can think of is to cut a slit in some 1/16" ID brass tubing. That oughta be good enough. I can always use a different 3/8" drill if necessary. So, how can I cut a NARROW slit in a section of 1/16" ID brass tubing? I have a .025" Dremel cutoff wheel, but by the time I get done by hand, I expect there won't be much brass left. I have some 1/8" shank NC drill bits, but they're extremely fragile. I'd break 'em in an instant with a hand drill. I have a Dremel chuck with a 1/8" shank, but by the time I stack all that up, the tip of the drill bit is WAY out there. Other options that don't involve buying a new drill or a new chuck or a $25 drill bit? Wrap copper or steel wire around the shank. I do it all the time. -- Ed Huntress |
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1/16" drill bit won't fit a 1/2" chuck
On Tue, 23 May 2017 01:55:43 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
wrote: On Monday, May 22, 2017 at 10:26:36 PM UTC-7, mike wrote: \ I bought one of the Ryobi 1/2" lithium drill kits. I don't need 1/2", but that's what was on sale. I never drill big holes, but I often drill small ones. The 1/2" chuck won't close on a 1/16" bit. That's only the tip of the iceberg. Half-inch drills often don't rotate fast enough for those small bits anyway. That 1/16" bit won't work well (on stainless, for instance) if it doesn't go at least 2000 rpm. For a half-inch drill, 300 rpm is good. So, what's the speed range of the lithium drill kit? 1600 rpm max? You can always buy a small chuck and put a stub arbor on it and clamp it into the bigger chuck. That being said..its better to find a small highspeed drill press for tiny bits. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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1/16" drill bit won't fit a 1/2" chuck
On Tue, 23 May 2017 18:51:08 +0100, David Billington
wrote: On 23/05/17 06:25, mike wrote: I've been culling my collection of crap. Decided to reduce the number of incompatible cordless tools and dead batteries. I bought one of the Ryobi 1/2" lithium drill kits. I don't need 1/2", but that's what was on sale. I never drill big holes, but I often drill small ones. It was an online deal, so I couldn't inspect it beforehand. I shot myself in the foot. The 1/2" chuck won't close on a 1/16" bit. Only reasonably priced solution I've found is a bit with a 1/4" hex shank. There are a bunch of issues with that. Only thing I can think of is to cut a slit in some 1/16" ID brass tubing. That oughta be good enough. I can always use a different 3/8" drill if necessary. So, how can I cut a NARROW slit in a section of 1/16" ID brass tubing? I have a .025" Dremel cutoff wheel, but by the time I get done by hand, I expect there won't be much brass left. I have some 1/8" shank NC drill bits, but they're extremely fragile. I'd break 'em in an instant with a hand drill. I have a Dremel chuck with a 1/8" shank, but by the time I stack all that up, the tip of the drill bit is WAY out there. Other options that don't involve buying a new drill or a new chuck or a $25 drill bit? Sounds like you need to buy a pin chuck, 3rd item down on this page http://www.productsengineering.com/m...pinchucks.html . Assuming his drill press will go faster than 1800 rpm..yes, that will work. If it tops out at 700-800....he is screwed. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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1/16" drill bit won't fit a 1/2" chuck-solved
On 5/23/2017 9:35 AM, Jon Elson wrote:
mike wrote: So, how can I cut a NARROW slit in a section of 1/16" ID brass tubing? I have a .025" Dremel cutoff wheel, but by the time I get done by hand, I expect there won't be much brass left. Well, You could use an X-acto saw, although it would wear the blade (their blades are really soft). You could reshape an old X-acto blade into a skiving tool, Put an old drill shank in the tubing and hold it in a vise for the procedure. To fashion a skiving tool (my own word for it) you use a bench stone and make the X-acto blade like a tiny chisel blade. It only takes about 30 seconds to reshape the end of a worn-out blade. Then, you run the blade down the brass, using the vise jaw as a guide. It will take 1-2 minutes to cut through to the drill shank, and you should get a very narrow slit. You swipe the blade "backwards" with the straight edge of the blade at right angles to the brass. it will bring up little curls as it cuts through. Wish I could show this being done, it is easier to show than describe. Jon Worked perfectly. thanks, mike |
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1/16" drill bit won't fit a 1/2" chuck
On 5/23/2017 11:42 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 23 May 2017 18:51:08 +0100, David Billington wrote: On 23/05/17 06:25, mike wrote: I've been culling my collection of crap. Decided to reduce the number of incompatible cordless tools and dead batteries. I bought one of the Ryobi 1/2" lithium drill kits. I don't need 1/2", but that's what was on sale. I never drill big holes, but I often drill small ones. It was an online deal, so I couldn't inspect it beforehand. I shot myself in the foot. The 1/2" chuck won't close on a 1/16" bit. Only reasonably priced solution I've found is a bit with a 1/4" hex shank. There are a bunch of issues with that. Only thing I can think of is to cut a slit in some 1/16" ID brass tubing. That oughta be good enough. I can always use a different 3/8" drill if necessary. So, how can I cut a NARROW slit in a section of 1/16" ID brass tubing? I have a .025" Dremel cutoff wheel, but by the time I get done by hand, I expect there won't be much brass left. I have some 1/8" shank NC drill bits, but they're extremely fragile. I'd break 'em in an instant with a hand drill. I have a Dremel chuck with a 1/8" shank, but by the time I stack all that up, the tip of the drill bit is WAY out there. Other options that don't involve buying a new drill or a new chuck or a $25 drill bit? Sounds like you need to buy a pin chuck, 3rd item down on this page http://www.productsengineering.com/m...pinchucks.html . Assuming his drill press will go faster than 1800 rpm..yes, that will work. If it tops out at 700-800....he is screwed. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus You guys are missing the point entirely. The question was not about how to drill the optimum hole in the most difficult material. It was about how to drill ANY hole at all. Brass tubing met that requirement. |
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1/16" drill bit won't fit a 1/2" chuck
On Mon, 22 May 2017 22:25:04 -0700, mike wrote:
I've been culling my collection of crap. Decided to reduce the number of incompatible cordless tools and dead batteries. I bought one of the Ryobi 1/2" lithium drill kits. I don't need 1/2", but that's what was on sale. I never drill big holes, but I often drill small ones. It was an online deal, so I couldn't inspect it beforehand. I shot myself in the foot. The 1/2" chuck won't close on a 1/16" bit. Only reasonably priced solution I've found is a bit with a 1/4" hex shank. There are a bunch of issues with that. Only thing I can think of is to cut a slit in some 1/16" ID brass tubing. That oughta be good enough. I can always use a different 3/8" drill if necessary. So, how can I cut a NARROW slit in a section of 1/16" ID brass tubing? I have a .025" Dremel cutoff wheel, but by the time I get done by hand, I expect there won't be much brass left. I have some 1/8" shank NC drill bits, but they're extremely fragile. I'd break 'em in an instant with a hand drill. I have a Dremel chuck with a 1/8" shank, but by the time I stack all that up, the tip of the drill bit is WAY out there. Other options that don't involve buying a new drill or a new chuck or a $25 drill bit? Get a 1/4" chuck, mount it on an arbour, and chuck it in the half inch drill. It will make it clumsy, but a half inch drill is WAY too clumsey, and way too slow, for a 1/16" bit anyway. I think I smell a troll- - - |
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1/16" drill bit won't fit a 1/2" chuck-solved
mike wrote:
On 5/23/2017 9:35 AM, Jon Elson wrote: mike wrote: So, how can I cut a NARROW slit in a section of 1/16" ID brass tubing? I have a .025" Dremel cutoff wheel, but by the time I get done by hand, I expect there won't be much brass left. Well, You could use an X-acto saw, although it would wear the blade (their blades are really soft). You could reshape an old X-acto blade into a skiving tool, Put an old drill shank in the tubing and hold it in a vise for the procedure. To fashion a skiving tool (my own word for it) you use a bench stone and make the X-acto blade like a tiny chisel blade. It only takes about 30 seconds to reshape the end of a worn-out blade. Then, you run the blade down the brass, using the vise jaw as a guide. It will take 1-2 minutes to cut through to the drill shank, and you should get a very narrow slit. You swipe the blade "backwards" with the straight edge of the blade at right angles to the brass. it will bring up little curls as it cuts through. Wish I could show this being done, it is easier to show than describe. Jon Worked perfectly. thanks, mike Hah, that was quick! I modify a lot of X-acto blades to carve circuit board material, odd plastic things, etc. Kind of my go-too tool for special things. Glad it worked for you! Jon |
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1/16" drill bit won't fit a 1/2" chuck
On Tue, 23 May 2017 13:39:19 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "mike" wrote in message news ... Other options that don't involve buying a new drill or a new chuck or a $25 drill bit? Assuming you have a metal lathe (this is r.c.m.) you could drill a 1/4" bolt with a solid shank lengthwise for the drill shank and then drill and tap crosswise through the hex head for a setscrew. I second that, but would use 3/8 to 1/2" stock, not 1/4". -- I started out with nothing and I still have most of it left! --anon |
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