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I work in a number of mediums from metal and wood to clay and paints but what ever I am doing it is always SMALL. In 1:12 scale to be precise. I am also a stickler for accuracy and detail to achieve realism. To this end I am looking for ANY jigs or holders etc that would help me with making (and reproducing) small items. I can totally take a jig from woodworking and adapt it to the items I make in metal so that's not an issue...no need to point to wood magazine jigs as I have collected a variety of those types already.

In particular I am trying to modify all my tools whether full size or mini, to adapt to my Byrnes Miniaturists Table saw mitre table attachment, for accuracy. right now I'm trying to figure out how to attach it to my delta disc and mini band sander (on the disc side) effectively...Ive removed the disc housing since I made a set of removable discs in a variety of grits so I can quickly swap them out rather than peel off paper that is only partially used up! If anyone is interested in those mods to use for your full sized items or as a sharpening system..I'm willing to share!

Thanks for any replies and for the new add to this group.

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I work in a number of mediums from metal and wood to clay and paints but what ever I am doing it is always SMALL. In 1:12 scale to be precise. I am also a stickler for accuracy and detail to achieve realism. To this end I am looking for ANY jigs or holders etc that would help me with making (and reproducing) small items. I can totally take a jig from woodworking and adapt it to the items I make in metal so that's not an issue...no need to point to wood magazine jigs as I have collected a variety of those types already.

In particular I am trying to modify all my tools whether full size or mini, to adapt to my Byrnes Miniaturists Table saw mitre table attachment, for accuracy. right now I'm trying to figure out how to attach it to my delta disc and mini band sander (on the disc side) effectively...Ive removed the disc housing since I made a set of removable discs in a variety of grits so I can quickly swap them out rather than peel off paper that is only partially used up! If anyone is interested in those mods to use for your full sized items or as a sharpening system..I'm willing to share!

Thanks for any replies and for the new add to this group.

sincerely,
Jackie


We'd love to see photos of your work, Jackie. Do you have any to show us?

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I work in a number of mediums from metal and wood to clay and paints
but what ever I am doing it is always SMALL. In 1:12 scale to be
precise. I am also a stickler for accuracy and detail to achieve
realism. To this end I am looking for ANY jigs or holders etc that
would help me with making (and reproducing) small items. I can
totally take a jig from woodworking and adapt it to the items I make
in metal so that's not an issue...no need to point to wood magazine
jigs as I have collected a variety of those types already.

In particular I am trying to modify all my tools whether full size or
mini, to adapt to my Byrnes Miniaturists Table saw mitre table
attachment, for accuracy. right now I'm trying to figure out how to
attach it to my delta disc and mini band sander (on the disc side)
effectively...Ive removed the disc housing since I made a set of
removable discs in a variety of grits so I can quickly swap them out
rather than peel off paper that is only partially used up! If anyone
is interested in those mods to use for your full sized items or as a
sharpening system..I'm willing to share!

Thanks for any replies and for the new add to this group.

sincerely,
Jackie

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On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 8:56:52 PM UTC-4, Jackie Trades wrote:
To this end I am looking for ANY jigs or holders etc that would help me with making (and reproducing) small items. oup.

sincerely,
Jackie


Yesterday I was at a tag sale that had a bunch of tools. And I found a V clamp. It is a small vacuum clamp that uses compressed air and a venturi to hold things. It is about 8 inches by 8 inches, but can be used to clamp smaller things.

www.vac-clamp.com/€Ž Have not tried it, but did buy it. Made in Australia ,but available from some U.S. places.

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On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 8:56:52 PM UTC-4, Jackie Trades wrote:
To this end I am looking for ANY jigs or holders etc that would help me with making (and reproducing) small items. oup.

sincerely,
Jackie


Yesterday I was at a tag sale that had a bunch of tools. And I found a V clamp. It is a small vacuum clamp that uses compressed air and a venturi to hold things. It is about 8 inches by 8 inches, but can be used to clamp smaller things.

www.vac-clamp.com/? Have not tried it, but did buy it. Made in Australia ,but available from some U.S. places.

Dan


Rather quiet vacuum clamp. I wonder where they are exhausting the air
flow?

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On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 6:58:37 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sat, 6 May 2017 19:30:14 -0700 (PDT), "
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On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 8:56:52 PM UTC-4, Jackie Trades wrote:
To this end I am looking for ANY jigs or holders etc that would help me with making (and reproducing) small items. oup.

sincerely,
Jackie


Yesterday I was at a tag sale that had a bunch of tools. And I found a V clamp. It is a small vacuum clamp that uses compressed air and a venturi to hold things. It is about 8 inches by 8 inches, but can be used to clamp smaller things.

www.vac-clamp.com/? Have not tried it, but did buy it. Made in Australia ,but available from some U.S. places.

Dan


Rather quiet vacuum clamp. I wonder where they are exhausting the air
flow?

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And with all that woodworking dust, I'm assuming there's a filter on the inlet to the venturi? That will need cleaning probably often.

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On Sunday, May 7, 2017 at 6:58:37 AM UTC-4, Gunner Asch wrote:
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On Friday, May 5, 2017 at 8:56:52 PM UTC-4, Jackie Trades wrote:
To this end I am looking for ANY jigs or holders etc that would help me with making (and reproducing) small items. oup.

sincerely,
Jackie

Yesterday I was at a tag sale that had a bunch of tools. And I found a V clamp. It is a small vacuum clamp that uses compressed air and a venturi to hold things. It is about 8 inches by 8 inches, but can be used to clamp smaller things.

www.vac-clamp.com/? Have not tried it, but did buy it. Made in Australia ,but available from some U.S. places.

Dan


Rather quiet vacuum clamp. I wonder where they are exhausting the air
flow?

Gunner

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And with all that woodworking dust, I'm assuming there's a filter on the inlet to the venturi? That will need cleaning probably often.

Garrett


Indeed. Id love to see one up close and personal.

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And with all that woodworking dust, I'm assuming there's a filter on the inlet to the venturi? That will need cleaning probably often.

Garrett


Why do you think that? In use there is essentially no flow.

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And with all that woodworking dust, I'm assuming there's a filter on the inlet to the venturi? That will need cleaning probably often.

Garrett


Why do you think that? In use there is essentially no flow.

Dan


It's going to evacuate the air below the piece being held. Then there will be essentially no flow into the venturi. If a guy keeps the thing well cleaned of dust every time he uses it, it probably wouldn't clog. I'm a little skeptical about it.
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On 08-May-17 8:49 AM, Garrett Fulton wrote:
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And with all that woodworking dust, I'm assuming there's a filter on the inlet to the venturi? That will need cleaning probably often.

Garrett


Why do you think that? In use there is essentially no flow.

Dan


It's going to evacuate the air below the piece being held. Then there will be essentially no flow into the venturi. If a guy keeps the thing well cleaned of dust every time he uses it, it probably wouldn't clog. I'm a little skeptical about it.


Have a look at 4:30 in the video where he fills it full of sawdust

https://youtu.be/pN5RqoPCCJQ


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On 08-May-17 8:49 AM, Garrett Fulton wrote:
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And with all that woodworking dust, I'm assuming there's a filter on the inlet to the venturi? That will need cleaning probably often.

Garrett

Why do you think that? In use there is essentially no flow.

Dan


It's going to evacuate the air below the piece being held. Then there will be essentially no flow into the venturi. If a guy keeps the thing well cleaned of dust every time he uses it, it probably wouldn't clog. I'm a little skeptical about it.


Have a look at 4:30 in the video where he fills it full of sawdust

https://youtu.be/pN5RqoPCCJQ


You're right. I didn't watch the entire video. I'm impressed.
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Indeed. Id love to see one up close and personal.


I have way too many projects, but I am thinking a vacuum clamp would be handy on a drill press. I am always drilling things without clamping them. So a vacuum clamp mounted on the drill press might be nice. Or maybe most of the stuff I drill is too small or badly shaped for a vacuum clamp.

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On Monday, May 8, 2017 at 12:29:18 AM UTC-4, BM2335 wrote:
On 08-May-17 8:49 AM, Garrett Fulton wrote:
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And with all that woodworking dust, I'm assuming there's a filter on the inlet to the venturi? That will need cleaning probably often.

Garrett

Why do you think that? In use there is essentially no flow.

Dan

It's going to evacuate the air below the piece being held. Then there will be essentially no flow into the venturi. If a guy keeps the thing well cleaned of dust every time he uses it, it probably wouldn't clog. I'm a little skeptical about it.


Have a look at 4:30 in the video where he fills it full of sawdust

https://youtu.be/pN5RqoPCCJQ


You're right. I didn't watch the entire video. I'm impressed.


Both the $60 Lee Valley job (shown) and the $565 by Festool (of
course) are quieter than the cheapie Japa-/Taiwa-/Chi-nese jobs I saw
decades ago. But it's still close to 5cfm just to run 'em. And they
have to be run to hold vacuum. 12psi? Strange figure.

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Indeed. Id love to see one up close and personal.


I have way too many projects, but I am thinking a vacuum clamp would be handy on a drill press. I am always drilling things without clamping them. So a vacuum clamp mounted on the drill press might be nice. Or maybe most of the stuff I drill is too small or badly shaped for a vacuum clamp.

Dan


Given that you would be dealing with rotational torque rather than
linear torgue..I wonder how well it would hold.


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