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want threadlocker with coulour-change if broken
I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does
that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? |
want threadlocker with coulour-change if broken
On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:34:05 +0000 (UTC), unk wrote:
I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? Fingernail polish works nicely as both a thread locker that will allow the screw to be removed easily without extra effort, and it will show if the screw has been removed or moved. Works better than "locktite" for gun applications. And you can get it cheap from the missus or the discount store. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
want threadlocker with coulour-change if broken
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
... On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:34:05 +0000 (UTC), unk wrote: I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? Fingernail polish works nicely as both a thread locker that will allow the screw to be removed easily without extra effort, and it will show if the screw has been removed or moved. Works better than "locktite" for gun applications. And you can get it cheap from the missus or the discount store. Have a good story ready for why you need it. I've found it in all the electrical coding colors, some of which would be really weird on fingernails. -jsw |
want threadlocker with coulour-change if broken
On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:05:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:34:05 +0000 (UTC), unk wrote: I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? Fingernail polish works nicely as both a thread locker that will allow the screw to be removed easily without extra effort, and it will show if the screw has been removed or moved. Works better than "locktite" for gun applications. And you can get it cheap from the missus or the discount store. Have a good story ready for why you need it. I've found it in all the electrical coding colors, some of which would be really weird on fingernails. -jsw I go in, pick out the colors I want...sashay up to the counter, pull my money out of my purse and go on my way. (Grin) --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
want threadlocker with coulour-change if broken
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
... On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:05:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:34:05 +0000 (UTC), unk wrote: I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? Fingernail polish works nicely as both a thread locker that will allow the screw to be removed easily without extra effort, and it will show if the screw has been removed or moved. Works better than "locktite" for gun applications. And you can get it cheap from the missus or the discount store. Have a good story ready for why you need it. I've found it in all the electrical coding colors, some of which would be really weird on fingernails. -jsw I go in, pick out the colors I want...sashay up to the counter, pull my money out of my purse and go on my way. (Grin) But you are in California. |
want threadlocker with coulour-change if broken
On 2017-04-06, unk wrote:
I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? A dot of fingernail polish on one side of the head and the surrounding workpiece. No strength, but a clear indication if it has turned. Enjoy, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | (KV4PH) Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
want threadlocker with coulour-change if broken
On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 6:34:08 AM UTC-7, unk wrote:
I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? A broken lockwire is a good indicator. So are the flags that get applied on safety-critical fasteners http://www.imiproducts.com/products/checkpoint/ |
want threadlocker with coulour-change if broken
On Thu, 06 Apr 2017 08:59:44 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:34:05 +0000 (UTC), unk wrote: I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? Fingernail polish works nicely as both a thread locker that will allow the screw to be removed easily without extra effort, and it will show if the screw has been removed or moved. Works better than "locktite" for gun applications. I marked the caliper box to prevent storing it upside down and letting the batteries fall out and short against the case. I set the case down once and saw a tiny puff of smoke. Whoa! When I popped it open, I found the battery trying to arc weld the case of my new digital calipers. A dot on the top cover reminds me to store it upright. And you can get it cheap from the missus or the discount store. I have pink metalflake and clear from Dollar Tree. I put it on a screw to remind myself that I've had the lid off that particular piece of equipment. -- That's the thing about needs. Sometimes, when you get them met, you don't need them anymore. -- Michael Patrick King |
want threadlocker with coulour-change if broken
On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:05:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:34:05 +0000 (UTC), unk wrote: I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? Fingernail polish works nicely as both a thread locker that will allow the screw to be removed easily without extra effort, and it will show if the screw has been removed or moved. Works better than "locktite" for gun applications. And you can get it cheap from the missus or the discount store. Have a good story ready for why you need it. I've found it in all the electrical coding colors, some of which would be really weird on fingernails. Yeah, ROYGBIV works, but BBROYGBVGW would be weird on lady's fingernails. (Right, Violet?) Ooh, windy rain is now pouring down here. Possible thunderstorm tonight. Get ready, all you downwinders. Judging by the national weather radar on www.wunderground.com , you may already have your antenna down. -- That's the thing about needs. Sometimes, when you get them met, you don't need them anymore. -- Michael Patrick King |
want threadlocker with coulour-change if broken
On Fri, 07 Apr 2017 00:25:38 +0000, DoN. Nichols wrote:
On 2017-04-06, unk wrote: I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? A dot of fingernail polish on one side of the head and the surrounding workpiece. No strength, but a clear indication if it has turned. Enjoy, DoN. The problem is I can only see (easily) the threaded end of the fastener, and it's part-way down the through hole. The hole is stepped - larger at the eld I can see, but the screw does do project into the larger section. I want to put a drop in the well, and be able to look later to see if the screw has turned, so it has to stick to the screw and the hole and change colour if it's been broken. Time for some experimentation... |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
... On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:05:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:34:05 +0000 (UTC), unk wrote: I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? Fingernail polish works nicely as both a thread locker that will allow the screw to be removed easily without extra effort, and it will show if the screw has been removed or moved. Works better than "locktite" for gun applications. And you can get it cheap from the missus or the discount store. Have a good story ready for why you need it. I've found it in all the electrical coding colors, some of which would be really weird on fingernails. Yeah, ROYGBIV works, but BBROYGBVGW would be weird on lady's fingernails. (Right, Violet?) Ooh, windy rain is now pouring down here. Possible thunderstorm tonight. Get ready, all you downwinders. Judging by the national weather radar on www.wunderground.com , you may already have your antenna down. My bottle of Grey nail polish broke when I tried to open it to mark the Maytag timer, and finding a nonmetallic replacement was difficult. Weather radar showed the intense squall line that passed through NY and CT breaking up before hitting us. I didn't hear a single thunder boom. -jsw |
want threadlocker with coulour-change if broken
"unk" wrote in message
... On Fri, 07 Apr 2017 00:25:38 +0000, DoN. Nichols wrote: On 2017-04-06, unk wrote: I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? A dot of fingernail polish on one side of the head and the surrounding workpiece. No strength, but a clear indication if it has turned. Enjoy, DoN. The problem is I can only see (easily) the threaded end of the fastener, and it's part-way down the through hole. The hole is stepped - larger at the eld I can see, but the screw does do project into the larger section. I want to put a drop in the well, and be able to look later to see if the screw has turned, so it has to stick to the screw and the hole and change colour if it's been broken. Time for some experimentation... It wouldn't be that hard to do but I haven't seen a commercial product. Look into microencapsulation. -jsw |
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Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:34:05 +0000 (UTC), unk wrote: I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? Fingernail polish works nicely as both a thread locker that will allow the screw to be removed easily without extra effort, and it will show if the screw has been removed or moved. Works better than "locktite" for gun applications. And you can get it cheap from the missus or the discount store. Have a good story ready for why you need it. I've found it in all the electrical coding colors, some of which would be really weird on fingernails. -jsw Used it a lot when I did electronics repairs. I used a real ugly green. Made it easy to tell if I had worked on an item before and if the part had been touched by someone else. For the OP, I've not seen a single coating that changes that way, BUT if you put a small dot of the paint at the junction of screw/part. it would show up if the screw was moved because the coating would be broken and shifted. Another option would be a simple index mark, like using a sharp scribe across the end of the screw and up the interior of the hole. Misalignment means the screw has moved. -- Steve W. |
want threadlocker with coulour-change if broken
On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 07:26:47 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "unk" wrote in message ... On Fri, 07 Apr 2017 00:25:38 +0000, DoN. Nichols wrote: On 2017-04-06, unk wrote: I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? A dot of fingernail polish on one side of the head and the surrounding workpiece. No strength, but a clear indication if it has turned. Enjoy, DoN. The problem is I can only see (easily) the threaded end of the fastener, and it's part-way down the through hole. The hole is stepped - larger at the eld I can see, but the screw does do project into the larger section. I want to put a drop in the well, and be able to look later to see if the screw has turned, so it has to stick to the screw and the hole and change colour if it's been broken. Time for some experimentation... It wouldn't be that hard to do but I haven't seen a commercial product. Look into microencapsulation. -jsw Loctite 7414 tamper detection paste ? http://tinyurl.com/m7le3vd Dykem Cross Check - Torque Seal - Tamper Proof Indicator Paste? https://www.applied.com/c-itw-dykem-83318/p/101406820 -- Cheers, John B. |
want threadlocker with coulour-change if broken
"Steve W." wrote in message
... Jim Wilkins wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:34:05 +0000 (UTC), unk wrote: I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? Fingernail polish works nicely as both a thread locker that will allow the screw to be removed easily without extra effort, and it will show if the screw has been removed or moved. Works better than "locktite" for gun applications. And you can get it cheap from the missus or the discount store. Have a good story ready for why you need it. I've found it in all the electrical coding colors, some of which would be really weird on fingernails. -jsw Used it a lot when I did electronics repairs. I used a real ugly green. Made it easy to tell if I had worked on an item before and if the part had been touched by someone else. For the OP, I've not seen a single coating that changes that way, BUT if you put a small dot of the paint at the junction of screw/part. it would show up if the screw was moved because the coating would be broken and shifted. Another option would be a simple index mark, like using a sharp scribe across the end of the screw and up the interior of the hole. Misalignment means the screw has moved. -- Steve W. https://www.google.com/search?q=tamp...en&gbv=2#spf=1 |
want threadlocker with coulour-change if broken
"unk" wrote in message ... On Fri, 07 Apr 2017 00:25:38 +0000, DoN. Nichols wrote: On 2017-04-06, unk wrote: I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? A dot of fingernail polish on one side of the head and the surrounding workpiece. No strength, but a clear indication if it has turned. Enjoy, DoN. The problem is I can only see (easily) the threaded end of the fastener, and it's part-way down the through hole. The hole is stepped - larger at the eld I can see, but the screw does do project into the larger section. I want to put a drop in the well, and be able to look later to see if the screw has turned, so it has to stick to the screw and the hole and change colour if it's been broken. Time for some experimentation... DIY high-security tamper seals: http://www.patrol-log.com/2014/01/02...er-proof-seal/ |
want threadlocker with coulour-change if broken
On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 07:11:22 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:05:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:34:05 +0000 (UTC), unk wrote: I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? Fingernail polish works nicely as both a thread locker that will allow the screw to be removed easily without extra effort, and it will show if the screw has been removed or moved. Works better than "locktite" for gun applications. And you can get it cheap from the missus or the discount store. Have a good story ready for why you need it. I've found it in all the electrical coding colors, some of which would be really weird on fingernails. Yeah, ROYGBIV works, but BBROYGBVGW would be weird on lady's fingernails. (Right, Violet?) Ooh, windy rain is now pouring down here. Possible thunderstorm tonight. Get ready, all you downwinders. Judging by the national weather radar on www.wunderground.com , you may already have your antenna down. My bottle of Grey nail polish broke when I tried to open it to mark the Maytag timer, and finding a nonmetallic replacement was difficult. ICK! Having worked in a building owned by an ex-Navy man (gray exterior with 1' band of maroon near the top, gray interior paint, darker gray carpeting, gray benches, gray countertops) I got a bit tired of that lovely, bright color and try not to purchase anything gray to this day. My wool hiking socks are the exception. g Whuffo you use gray nail polish? Wouldn't black be a better contrast for a timer marking?, or were you remaining true to the original icky color? Weather radar showed the intense squall line that passed through NY and CT breaking up before hitting us. I didn't hear a single thunder boom. Although I didn't hear any thunderstorm last night, I awoke this morning to a repeated beeping in the other room. Looking at the bedside clock, it was dark. The power just now came back on and the heater feels good. 75,061 people lost power (for 3-4 hours) in Oregon this morning due to many trees taking down power lines. They trim the trees every year to prevent that. Go figure. Coffee was made on a propane burner (first things first) and then I settled back against the wedge on my bed to read by 48 LED panel from a survival lantern I built. It has a 9w 3 LED spot in MR-16 body and a 5Ah 12v gel cell. 139ma @ 12vdc http://tinyurl.com/muzjaqz I also used them to replace my cargo lights over the truck bed, where they work well. -- That's the thing about needs. Sometimes, when you get them met, you don't need them anymore. -- Michael Patrick King |
want threadlocker with coulour-change if broken
On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 10:27:39 +0000 (UTC), unk wrote:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2017 00:25:38 +0000, DoN. Nichols wrote: On 2017-04-06, unk wrote: I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? A dot of fingernail polish on one side of the head and the surrounding workpiece. No strength, but a clear indication if it has turned. Enjoy, DoN. The problem is I can only see (easily) the threaded end of the fastener, and it's part-way down the through hole. The hole is stepped - larger at the eld I can see, but the screw does do project into the larger section. I want to put a drop in the well, and be able to look later to see if the screw has turned, so it has to stick to the screw and the hole and change colour if it's been broken. Time for some experimentation... I like your idea. It would make for quick inspection of fasteners. Eric |
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On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 10:27:39 +0000 (UTC), unk wrote:
On Fri, 07 Apr 2017 00:25:38 +0000, DoN. Nichols wrote: On 2017-04-06, unk wrote: I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? A dot of fingernail polish on one side of the head and the surrounding workpiece. No strength, but a clear indication if it has turned. Enjoy, DoN. The problem is I can only see (easily) the threaded end of the fastener, and it's part-way down the through hole. The hole is stepped - larger at the eld I can see, but the screw does do project into the larger section. I want to put a drop in the well, and be able to look later to see if the screw has turned, so it has to stick to the screw and the hole and change colour if it's been broken. Time for some experimentation... Try a pinstriping brush or fine artist's paint brush. They're thin and long. It that's still too large, dip a straightened paper clip into the nail polish and poke that down the little hole to get to the fastener. -- That's the thing about needs. Sometimes, when you get them met, you don't need them anymore. -- Michael Patrick King |
want threadlocker with coulour-change if broken
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
... On Fri, 7 Apr 2017 07:11:22 -0400, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: My bottle of Grey nail polish broke when I tried to open it to mark the Maytag timer, and finding a nonmetallic replacement was difficult. ICK! Having worked in a building owned by an ex-Navy man (gray exterior with 1' band of maroon near the top, gray interior paint, darker gray carpeting, gray benches, gray countertops) I got a bit tired of that lovely, bright color and try not to purchase anything gray to this day. My wool hiking socks are the exception. g Whuffo you use gray nail polish? Wouldn't black be a better contrast for a timer marking?, or were you remaining true to the original icky color? I was dabbing the color of the removed wires directly on the rivet of the Faston tabs, since the wire number labels aren't all close to their terminals. The Navy must have unloaded their surplus grey paint on the Army after retiring the battleships because it was our standard interior and equipment color too. Weather radar showed the intense squall line that passed through NY and CT breaking up before hitting us. I didn't hear a single thunder boom. Although I didn't hear any thunderstorm last night, I awoke this morning to a repeated beeping in the other room. Looking at the bedside clock, it was dark. The power just now came back on and the heater feels good. 75,061 people lost power (for 3-4 hours) in Oregon this morning due to many trees taking down power lines. They trim the trees every year to prevent that. Go figure. Coffee was made on a propane burner (first things first) and then I settled back against the wedge on my bed to read by 48 LED panel from a survival lantern I built. It has a 9w 3 LED spot in MR-16 body and a 5Ah 12v gel cell. 139ma @ 12vdc http://tinyurl.com/muzjaqz I also used them to replace my cargo lights over the truck bed, where they work well. -- That's the thing about needs. Sometimes, when you get them met, you don't need them anymore. -- Michael Patrick King |
want threadlocker with coulour-change if broken
"unk" wrote in message
... - hide quoted text - On Fri, 07 Apr 2017 00:25:38 +0000, DoN. Nichols wrote: On 2017-04-06, unk wrote: I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? A dot of fingernail polish on one side of the head and the surrounding workpiece. No strength, but a clear indication if it has turned. Enjoy, DoN. The problem is I can only see (easily) the threaded end of the fastener, and it's part-way down the through hole. The hole is stepped - larger at the eld I can see, but the screw does do project into the larger section. I want to put a drop in the well, and be able to look later to see if the screw has turned, so it has to stick to the screw and the hole and change colour if it's been broken. Time for some experimentation... A line from a file can give bolts and nuts alignment with one on the surface. |
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John B. wrote:
Loctite 7414 tamper detection paste ? http://tinyurl.com/m7le3vd What if the tamperer buys that stuff too? -- "I'm a doctor, not a mechanic." Dr Leonard McCoy "I'm a mechanic, not a doctor." Volker Borchert |
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On 8 Apr 2017 05:50:33 GMT, (Volker Borchert)
wrote: John B. wrote: Loctite 7414 tamper detection paste ? http://tinyurl.com/m7le3vd What if the tamperer buys that stuff too? I've been in the situation a couple of times in my life where tampering and cover-up was likely. I used fingernail polish to which I added a tiny amount of a specific mixture of radioactive elements. Detecting a forgery is as simple as holding a sensitive Geiger counter to the dot. John John DeArmond http://www.neon-john.com http://www.tnduction.com Tellico Plains, Occupied TN See website for email address |
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On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 14:55:16 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:05:03 -0400, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:34:05 +0000 (UTC), unk wrote: I would like to be able to tell by colour if a screw has turned - does that exist? Low-strength/removeable... Maybe a kind of varnish? Fingernail polish works nicely as both a thread locker that will allow the screw to be removed easily without extra effort, and it will show if the screw has been removed or moved. Works better than "locktite" for gun applications. And you can get it cheap from the missus or the discount store. Have a good story ready for why you need it. I've found it in all the electrical coding colors, some of which would be really weird on fingernails. -jsw I go in, pick out the colors I want...sashay up to the counter, pull my money out of my purse and go on my way. (Grin) But you are in California. Hence the purse! Camoflauge!! --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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Neon John wrote:
On 8 Apr 2017 05:50:33 GMT, (Volker Borchert) wrote: John B. wrote: Loctite 7414 tamper detection paste ? http://tinyurl.com/m7le3vd What if the tamperer buys that stuff too? I've been in the situation a couple of times in my life where tampering and cover-up was likely. I used fingernail polish to which I added a tiny amount of a specific mixture of radioactive elements. Detecting a forgery is as simple as holding a sensitive Geiger counter to the dot. Nowadays one might use DNA "ink". -- "I'm a doctor, not a mechanic." Dr Leonard McCoy "I'm a mechanic, not a doctor." Volker Borchert |
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On Sun, 09 Apr 2017 21:15:06 -0400, Neon John wrote:
If I had a serious tamper problem, I'd have a chemist friend supply me with some photochromic paint he developed. It starts out bright orange but rapidly turns brown. The authenticity proof is to break the seal, preferably with a video camera looking on. The interior will still be bright orange and will darken before your eyes. If the tamperer has tried to hide his tampering with brown putty or paint, it'll be brown even when first broken. John NICE!! --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus |
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