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I blew the belt on my 6HP YammerHammer blower, meaning I had to push/pull the darn thing home into the garage. It has (previously) eaten 2 goodsized chunks of newspaper/ads burried in the snow - but it wasn't the auger belt that let go - it was the drive belt to the Hydro unit. (But I will replace them both while itr is apart!!!) After a LOT of searching/calling I found a current part number and ordered the OEM belts. It was a bit of a scare, as the first prices that came up were $112 and $55, but after they got through the supercession list the current parts are only $51.73 and $24.57 (in Canadian dollars) Also found the measurements and they are a A29 for the Hydro and a B36 for the auger.( or 4L310 and 5L390) What would be the best aftermarket belt to use on this unit in the future that is generally available and will handle the abuse a track-Drive snow blower can dish out?? Having backside idlers makes some less advisable. Is a cog belt an advantage or disadvantahe here? I used a cog belt on my old friction drive blower and it worked well in the snow-filled semi-open drive area - limitting the slippage to the rubber friction drive wheel. Looking at the Timken (Carlisle) NON cogged listing there is the Super II and the Aramax. The super II is their "problem solver" HD belt and is a "raw edge" belt, while the ARAMAX is a kevlar wrapped belt designed for lawn equipment. Any belt experts out there who can ring in on this?? |
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:35:19 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 17:11:09 -0500, wrote: I blew the belt on my 6HP YammerHammer blower, meaning I had to push/pull the darn thing home into the garage. It has (previously) eaten 2 goodsized chunks of newspaper/ads burried in the snow - but it wasn't the auger belt that let go - it was the drive belt to the Hydro unit. (But I will replace them both while itr is apart!!!) Whuffo you do dat, clare? Ouch! The paper thrower threw the paper either just before the snow fell, or in the middle of the dump. It was totally invisible and unexpected in both cases. After a LOT of searching/calling I found a current part number and ordered the OEM belts. It was a bit of a scare, as the first prices that came up were $112 and $55, but after they got through the supercession list the current parts are only $51.73 and $24.57 (in Canadian dollars) Eek. Also found the measurements and they are a A29 for the Hydro and a B36 for the auger.( or 4L310 and 5L390) What would be the best aftermarket belt to use on this unit in the future that is generally available and will handle the abuse a track-Drive snow blower can dish out?? Having backside idlers makes some less advisable. Is a cog belt an advantage or disadvantahe here? Cogged belts give you longer life when used on small diameter pulleys because they build up less heat. I used a cog belt on my old friction drive blower and it worked well in the snow-filled semi-open drive area - limitting the slippage to the rubber friction drive wheel. Looking at the Timken (Carlisle) NON cogged listing there is the Super II and the Aramax. The super II is their "problem solver" HD belt and is a "raw edge" belt, while the ARAMAX is a kevlar wrapped belt designed for lawn equipment. Any belt experts out there who can ring in on this?? Thankfully, I have absolutely no knowledge of snowblower belts. I paid just $6 more for the kevlar-wrapped belt on my Murray mower. They last 5 years compared to less than a year for the raw edge style regular belt. I also learned how quickly mowing wet lawns eats belts, but I'm fairly sure the wrapped belt is much less prone to wear from it. So, for lawn equipment, it makes sense to spend the extra bucks. Still torque, temps, and actual running conditions are unknown to me wet white stuff. Your best bet is to ask a reputable repairman for snowblowers. Drive by one of the shops and ask the guy with the wrench in his hand. (You and I know how that goes, right? Screw the managers; you need to ask the -mechanics- for the proper info.) They all want to sell the OEM belt - which MAY be the best belt for the job, or just the best at a price point. Seeing it only lasted 4 or 5 seasons - I'm leaning towards the latter. |
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 22:25:57 -0500, wrote:
On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:35:19 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 17:11:09 -0500, wrote: I blew the belt on my 6HP YammerHammer blower, meaning I had to push/pull the darn thing home into the garage. It has (previously) eaten 2 goodsized chunks of newspaper/ads burried in the snow - but it wasn't the auger belt that let go - it was the drive belt to the Hydro unit. (But I will replace them both while itr is apart!!!) Whuffo you do dat, clare? Ouch! The paper thrower threw the paper either just before the snow fell, or in the middle of the dump. It was totally invisible and unexpected in both cases. Wow, all that trouble from a single newspaper? I thought perhaps you had set out a stack for recycling and forgotten it. -- Give me the luxuries of life. I can live without the necessities. --anon |
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 05:11:45 -0800
Larry Jaques wrote: snip Wow, all that trouble from a single newspaper? I thought perhaps you had set out a stack for recycling and forgotten it. He just needs a bigger blower. One that can handle a little hiccup, belch here and the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLk4oc-dQss Of course it might not make the neighbors too happy ;-) -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
... On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 22:25:57 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:35:19 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 17:11:09 -0500, wrote: I blew the belt on my 6HP YammerHammer blower, meaning I had to push/pull the darn thing home into the garage. It has (previously) eaten 2 goodsized chunks of newspaper/ads burried in the snow - but it wasn't the auger belt that let go - it was the drive belt to the Hydro unit. (But I will replace them both while itr is apart!!!) Whuffo you do dat, clare? Ouch! The paper thrower threw the paper either just before the snow fell, or in the middle of the dump. It was totally invisible and unexpected in both cases. Wow, all that trouble from a single newspaper? I thought perhaps you had set out a stack for recycling and forgotten it. They are small enough to pass through the auger and jam against the impeller. Tree branches and chunks of frozen snowbank dislodged by the plow can be as bad, and all are invisible in the jumble the plow leaves, or if the wind levels the surface. -jsw |
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 09:29:19 -0400, Leon Fisk
wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 05:11:45 -0800 Larry Jaques wrote: snip Wow, all that trouble from a single newspaper? I thought perhaps you had set out a stack for recycling and forgotten it. He just needs a bigger blower. One that can handle a little hiccup, belch here and the https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLk4oc-dQss Of course it might not make the neighbors too happy ;-) How about something a little smaller and more affordable? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvR-eaKUVqU -- Give me the luxuries of life. I can live without the necessities. --anon |
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 08:36:52 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 22:25:57 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:35:19 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 17:11:09 -0500, wrote: I blew the belt on my 6HP YammerHammer blower, meaning I had to push/pull the darn thing home into the garage. It has (previously) eaten 2 goodsized chunks of newspaper/ads burried in the snow - but it wasn't the auger belt that let go - it was the drive belt to the Hydro unit. (But I will replace them both while itr is apart!!!) Whuffo you do dat, clare? Ouch! The paper thrower threw the paper either just before the snow fell, or in the middle of the dump. It was totally invisible and unexpected in both cases. Wow, all that trouble from a single newspaper? I thought perhaps you had set out a stack for recycling and forgotten it. They are small enough to pass through the auger and jam against the impeller. Tree branches and chunks of frozen snowbank dislodged by the plow can be as bad, and all are invisible in the jumble the plow leaves, or if the wind levels the surface. Bummer. I'm glad I have a total of 23 minutes of snow shoveling experience. I think I remember 15 minutes of it somewhere a couple dozen years ago, but the latest was a month or two ago when I got the icy stuff off my driveway so I could bring in the mail. The trusty HF grain shovel, bought for distributing bark dust and mulch, worked a treat. -- Give me the luxuries of life. I can live without the necessities. --anon |
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:29:56 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 08:36:52 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 22:25:57 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:35:19 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 17:11:09 -0500, wrote: I blew the belt on my 6HP YammerHammer blower, meaning I had to push/pull the darn thing home into the garage. It has (previously) eaten 2 goodsized chunks of newspaper/ads burried in the snow - but it wasn't the auger belt that let go - it was the drive belt to the Hydro unit. (But I will replace them both while itr is apart!!!) Whuffo you do dat, clare? Ouch! The paper thrower threw the paper either just before the snow fell, or in the middle of the dump. It was totally invisible and unexpected in both cases. Wow, all that trouble from a single newspaper? I thought perhaps you had set out a stack for recycling and forgotten it. They are small enough to pass through the auger and jam against the impeller. Tree branches and chunks of frozen snowbank dislodged by the plow can be as bad, and all are invisible in the jumble the plow leaves, or if the wind levels the surface. Bummer. I'm glad I have a total of 23 minutes of snow shoveling experience. I think I remember 15 minutes of it somewhere a couple dozen years ago, but the latest was a month or two ago when I got the icy stuff off my driveway so I could bring in the mail. The trusty HF grain shovel, bought for distributing bark dust and mulch, worked a treat. The second one jammed between the auger and the housing. It was a bundleabout 5 inches in diameter in a plastic bag and it came apart enough to get in like a wedge under the serrated impeller. I could not bac it out or pry it out or cut it out so after tearing out as nuch as possible I went at it with the propane torch. Now, interestingly enough, even though the belt howled and smoked before I got it shut off, the auger belt didn't fail. It hardly had a mark on it. The belt from the engine to the hydrostatic transmission basically "detonated" several weeks later, and not even when it was being worked hard. |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
... On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 08:36:52 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message . .. On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 22:25:57 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:35:19 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 17:11:09 -0500, wrote: I blew the belt on my 6HP YammerHammer blower, meaning I had to push/pull the darn thing home into the garage. It has (previously) eaten 2 goodsized chunks of newspaper/ads burried in the snow - but it wasn't the auger belt that let go - it was the drive belt to the Hydro unit. (But I will replace them both while itr is apart!!!) Whuffo you do dat, clare? Ouch! The paper thrower threw the paper either just before the snow fell, or in the middle of the dump. It was totally invisible and unexpected in both cases. Wow, all that trouble from a single newspaper? I thought perhaps you had set out a stack for recycling and forgotten it. They are small enough to pass through the auger and jam against the impeller. Tree branches and chunks of frozen snowbank dislodged by the plow can be as bad, and all are invisible in the jumble the plow leaves, or if the wind levels the surface. Bummer. I'm glad I have a total of 23 minutes of snow shoveling experience. I think I remember 15 minutes of it somewhere a couple dozen years ago, but the latest was a month or two ago when I got the icy stuff off my driveway so I could bring in the mail. The trusty HF grain shovel, bought for distributing bark dust and mulch, worked a treat. I've been shoveling until my back tells me to stop, then finishing with a snowblower. It helps keep me from getting old. -jsw |
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Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 08:36:52 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 22:25:57 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:35:19 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 17:11:09 -0500, wrote: I blew the belt on my 6HP YammerHammer blower, meaning I had to push/pull the darn thing home into the garage. It has (previously) eaten 2 goodsized chunks of newspaper/ads burried in the snow - but it wasn't the auger belt that let go - it was the drive belt to the Hydro unit. (But I will replace them both while itr is apart!!!) Whuffo you do dat, clare? Ouch! The paper thrower threw the paper either just before the snow fell, or in the middle of the dump. It was totally invisible and unexpected in both cases. Wow, all that trouble from a single newspaper? I thought perhaps you had set out a stack for recycling and forgotten it. They are small enough to pass through the auger and jam against the impeller. Tree branches and chunks of frozen snowbank dislodged by the plow can be as bad, and all are invisible in the jumble the plow leaves, or if the wind levels the surface. Bummer. I'm glad I have a total of 23 minutes of snow shoveling experience. I think I remember 15 minutes of it somewhere a couple dozen years ago, but the latest was a month or two ago when I got the icy stuff off my driveway so I could bring in the mail. The trusty HF grain shovel, bought for distributing bark dust and mulch, worked a treat. I've been shoveling until my back tells me to stop, then finishing with a snowblower. It helps keep me from getting old. -jsw I fire up Rusty the Tractor and just blade the little bit we get off to the side of the driveway - and sometimes tha road up to the top of the hill .. Usually it's not the snow but the underlying layer of ice that's the problem . So I put the chains on before first snowfall . -- Snag |
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 20:15:33 -0500, wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:29:56 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 08:36:52 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 22:25:57 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:35:19 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 17:11:09 -0500, wrote: I blew the belt on my 6HP YammerHammer blower, meaning I had to push/pull the darn thing home into the garage. It has (previously) eaten 2 goodsized chunks of newspaper/ads burried in the snow - but it wasn't the auger belt that let go - it was the drive belt to the Hydro unit. (But I will replace them both while itr is apart!!!) Whuffo you do dat, clare? Ouch! The paper thrower threw the paper either just before the snow fell, or in the middle of the dump. It was totally invisible and unexpected in both cases. Wow, all that trouble from a single newspaper? I thought perhaps you had set out a stack for recycling and forgotten it. They are small enough to pass through the auger and jam against the impeller. Tree branches and chunks of frozen snowbank dislodged by the plow can be as bad, and all are invisible in the jumble the plow leaves, or if the wind levels the surface. Bummer. I'm glad I have a total of 23 minutes of snow shoveling experience. I think I remember 15 minutes of it somewhere a couple dozen years ago, but the latest was a month or two ago when I got the icy stuff off my driveway so I could bring in the mail. The trusty HF grain shovel, bought for distributing bark dust and mulch, worked a treat. The second one jammed between the auger and the housing. It was a bundleabout 5 inches in diameter in a plastic bag and it came apart enough to get in like a wedge under the serrated impeller. I could not bac it out or pry it out or cut it out so after tearing out as nuch as possible I went at it with the propane torch. Har, I like it. When all else fails, TORCH IT! Now, interestingly enough, even though the belt howled and smoked before I got it shut off, the auger belt didn't fail. It hardly had a mark on it. Interesting. Maybe wet chattering (the howl) saved it. The belt from the engine to the hydrostatic transmission basically "detonated" several weeks later, and not even when it was being worked hard. Odd, but it sounds like a typical failure mode once it had been overheated. Working it hard probably overheated it again and it failed as or after it cooled back down. -- Give me the luxuries of life. I can live without the necessities. --anon |
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 20:24:41 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 08:36:52 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 22:25:57 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:35:19 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 17:11:09 -0500, wrote: I blew the belt on my 6HP YammerHammer blower, meaning I had to push/pull the darn thing home into the garage. It has (previously) eaten 2 goodsized chunks of newspaper/ads burried in the snow - but it wasn't the auger belt that let go - it was the drive belt to the Hydro unit. (But I will replace them both while itr is apart!!!) Whuffo you do dat, clare? Ouch! The paper thrower threw the paper either just before the snow fell, or in the middle of the dump. It was totally invisible and unexpected in both cases. Wow, all that trouble from a single newspaper? I thought perhaps you had set out a stack for recycling and forgotten it. They are small enough to pass through the auger and jam against the impeller. Tree branches and chunks of frozen snowbank dislodged by the plow can be as bad, and all are invisible in the jumble the plow leaves, or if the wind levels the surface. Bummer. I'm glad I have a total of 23 minutes of snow shoveling experience. I think I remember 15 minutes of it somewhere a couple dozen years ago, but the latest was a month or two ago when I got the icy stuff off my driveway so I could bring in the mail. The trusty HF grain shovel, bought for distributing bark dust and mulch, worked a treat. I've been shoveling until my back tells me to stop, then finishing with a snowblower. It helps keep me from getting old. Yeah, you have to continue to use/work the old bod or it'll rust out on ya, and far too early at that. -- Give me the luxuries of life. I can live without the necessities. --anon |
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:27:04 -0800
Larry Jaques wrote: snip How about something a little smaller and more affordable? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvR-eaKUVqU Dang! That thing needs a lot bigger blower for that size motor. Doubt if the motor even knows it's doing something other than revving up. Dude's got a few man hours in that machine... Some awfully cool snowblowers, custom builds on youtube. One I really liked from several years ago was just a typical 10-15hp dual stage machine that had been fitted with remote control. Sit inside and blow driveway ;-) I'm with Jim, still shovel the stuff out. Someday I'll have to get a blower but I'm not there yet. And we do get snow. This is from Feb 2014: http://www.iserv.net/~lfisk/winter2014-02.jpeg Don't have diddly squat around right now but that is fine by me. -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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On Tuesday, February 14, 2017 at 9:46:07 PM UTC-5, Terry Coombs wrote:
I fire up Rusty the Tractor and just blade the little bit we get off to the side of the driveway - and sometimes tha road up to the top of the hill . Usually it's not the snow but the underlying layer of ice that's the problem . So I put the chains on before first snowfall . -- Snag This year have had snow a couple of times, but just a couple of inches. So have not tried using the lawn tractor with a blade. Dan |
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 20:24:41 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" I've been shoveling until my back tells me to stop, then finishing with a snowblower. It helps keep me from getting old. Yeah, you have to continue to use/work the old bod or it'll rust out on ya, and far too early at that. Cutting and splitting firewood works for me . -- Snag |
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On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 7:43:09 AM UTC-5, Leon Fisk wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:27:04 -0800 Larry Jaques wrote: snip How about something a little smaller and more affordable? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvR-eaKUVqU Dang! That thing needs a lot bigger blower for that size motor. Doubt if the motor even knows it's doing something other than revving up. Dude's got a few man hours in that machine... Some awfully cool snowblowers, custom builds on youtube. One I really liked from several years ago was just a typical 10-15hp dual stage machine that had been fitted with remote control. Sit inside and blow driveway ;-) I'm with Jim, still shovel the stuff out. Someday I'll have to get a blower but I'm not there yet. And we do get snow. This is from Feb 2014: http://www.iserv.net/~lfisk/winter2014-02.jpeg Don't have diddly squat around right now but that is fine by me. -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email I got my first one for Christmas. It came just in time, because I had surgery for a hernia the week before our first significant snowfall. It's my new favorite toy. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:43:07 -0400, Leon Fisk
wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:27:04 -0800 Larry Jaques wrote: snip How about something a little smaller and more affordable? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvR-eaKUVqU Dang! That thing needs a lot bigger blower for that size motor. Doubt if the motor even knows it's doing something other than revving up. Dude's got a few man hours in that machine... Some awfully cool snowblowers, custom builds on youtube. One I really liked from several years ago was just a typical 10-15hp dual stage machine that had been fitted with remote control. Sit inside and blow driveway ;-) I'm with Jim, still shovel the stuff out. Someday I'll have to get a blower but I'm not there yet. And we do get snow. This is from Feb 2014: http://www.iserv.net/~lfisk/winter2014-02.jpeg Don't have diddly squat around right now but that is fine by me. Heck, if I lived in snow country, I'd figure out some way to use a turbine blower, melting what didn't blow off my driveway. g Perhaps something a bit smaller than this: http://tinyurl.com/huoj7uo -- In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant. --Charles de Gaulle |
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 07:45:33 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 20:24:41 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" I've been shoveling until my back tells me to stop, then finishing with a snowblower. It helps keep me from getting old. Yeah, you have to continue to use/work the old bod or it'll rust out on ya, and far too early at that. Cutting and splitting firewood works for me . Urk! To hell with that. Pruning, weeding (both yearround), and burning works for me, as well as installing solar panels on the roof, replacing water heaters (both 2017), PW & painting the house (2016), and PW & sealing the driveway (2017). Overhauling the shop with more shelving and rearranging everything is going to be a helluva lot of work, too, but then I'll get to work in there again. Whatta mess! -- In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant. --Charles de Gaulle |
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:44:21 -0800
Larry Jaques wrote: snip Heck, if I lived in snow country, I'd figure out some way to use a turbine blower, melting what didn't blow off my driveway. g Perhaps something a bit smaller than this: http://tinyurl.com/huoj7uo You best be government or last name of Gate's, Leno... for that kind of snow removal. They don't give fuel away around here ;-) This setup isn't too far away from me: http://www.mlive.com/business/west-m...llions_to.html -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 11:44:12 AM UTC-5, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:43:07 -0400, Leon Fisk wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:27:04 -0800 Larry Jaques wrote: snip How about something a little smaller and more affordable? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvR-eaKUVqU Dang! That thing needs a lot bigger blower for that size motor. Doubt if the motor even knows it's doing something other than revving up. Dude's got a few man hours in that machine... Some awfully cool snowblowers, custom builds on youtube. One I really liked from several years ago was just a typical 10-15hp dual stage machine that had been fitted with remote control. Sit inside and blow driveway ;-) I'm with Jim, still shovel the stuff out. Someday I'll have to get a blower but I'm not there yet. And we do get snow. This is from Feb 2014: http://www.iserv.net/~lfisk/winter2014-02.jpeg Don't have diddly squat around right now but that is fine by me. Heck, if I lived in snow country, I'd figure out some way to use a turbine blower, melting what didn't blow off my driveway. g Perhaps something a bit smaller than this: http://tinyurl.com/huoj7uo -- In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant. --Charles de Gaulle OK, but there are snow melters that do some pretty impressive destruction, turning the white stuff to liquid about as fast as you can feed them. I saw a news report a couple of years ago that showed a New York frontloader dumping snow into one of these and water just pouring out of it. https://youtu..be/LmDl_nETs8U |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
... On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:43:07 -0400, Leon Fisk wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:27:04 -0800 Larry Jaques wrote: snip How about something a little smaller and more affordable? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvR-eaKUVqU Dang! That thing needs a lot bigger blower for that size motor. Doubt if the motor even knows it's doing something other than revving up. Dude's got a few man hours in that machine... Some awfully cool snowblowers, custom builds on youtube. One I really liked from several years ago was just a typical 10-15hp dual stage machine that had been fitted with remote control. Sit inside and blow driveway ;-) I'm with Jim, still shovel the stuff out. Someday I'll have to get a blower but I'm not there yet. And we do get snow. This is from Feb 2014: http://www.iserv.net/~lfisk/winter2014-02.jpeg Don't have diddly squat around right now but that is fine by me. Heck, if I lived in snow country, I'd figure out some way to use a turbine blower, melting what didn't blow off my driveway. g Perhaps something a bit smaller than this: http://tinyurl.com/huoj7uo The consistency of the snowbank the road plows leave across the driveway is somewhere between gravel and hard-frozen ice cream, shading to wet concrete mix if it partly melts on a sunny day. Guess what that turns into at night. -jsw |
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 08:36:52 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 22:25:57 -0500, wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:35:19 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 17:11:09 -0500, wrote: I blew the belt on my 6HP YammerHammer blower, meaning I had to push/pull the darn thing home into the garage. It has (previously) eaten 2 goodsized chunks of newspaper/ads burried in the snow - but it wasn't the auger belt that let go - it was the drive belt to the Hydro unit. (But I will replace them both while itr is apart!!!) Whuffo you do dat, clare? Ouch! The paper thrower threw the paper either just before the snow fell, or in the middle of the dump. It was totally invisible and unexpected in both cases. Wow, all that trouble from a single newspaper? I thought perhaps you had set out a stack for recycling and forgotten it. They are small enough to pass through the auger and jam against the impeller. Tree branches and chunks of frozen snowbank dislodged by the plow can be as bad, and all are invisible in the jumble the plow leaves, or if the wind levels the surface. -jsw With my previous macine, I broke one shear bolt in 29 years when I forgot that I had anchored a tarp over a piece of equipment withy bricks! |
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:23:06 -0400, Leon Fisk
wrote: On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:44:21 -0800 Larry Jaques wrote: snip Heck, if I lived in snow country, I'd figure out some way to use a turbine blower, melting what didn't blow off my driveway. g Perhaps something a bit smaller than this: http://tinyurl.com/huoj7uo You best be government or last name of Gate's, Leno... for that kind of snow removal. They don't give fuel away around here ;-) You didn't catch the "something a bit smaller" portion of that joke, didja? Handheld, that jet engine would launch _me_. (as if I could lift it.) so I'd have to settle for something about 99.5% smaller. Y'know, 3x larger than a weed burner, and movable. Once a week, I could handle the fuel costs on my 50' driveway. Would a pressure washer leave too much ice? It could blow most powder off the drive, and blast free any previous layers of ice. This setup isn't too far away from me: http://www.mlive.com/business/west-m...llions_to.html -- In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant. --Charles de Gaulle |
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:33:41 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:43:07 -0400, Leon Fisk wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:27:04 -0800 Larry Jaques wrote: snip How about something a little smaller and more affordable? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvR-eaKUVqU Dang! That thing needs a lot bigger blower for that size motor. Doubt if the motor even knows it's doing something other than revving up. Dude's got a few man hours in that machine... Some awfully cool snowblowers, custom builds on youtube. One I really liked from several years ago was just a typical 10-15hp dual stage machine that had been fitted with remote control. Sit inside and blow driveway ;-) I'm with Jim, still shovel the stuff out. Someday I'll have to get a blower but I'm not there yet. And we do get snow. This is from Feb 2014: http://www.iserv.net/~lfisk/winter2014-02.jpeg Don't have diddly squat around right now but that is fine by me. Heck, if I lived in snow country, I'd figure out some way to use a turbine blower, melting what didn't blow off my driveway. g Perhaps something a bit smaller than this: http://tinyurl.com/huoj7uo The consistency of the snowbank the road plows leave across the driveway is somewhere between gravel and hard-frozen ice cream, shading to wet concrete mix if it partly melts on a sunny day. Guess what that turns into at night. Something just ripe for a pick mattock? Thot so. -- In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant. --Charles de Gaulle |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
... On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:33:41 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: The consistency of the snowbank the road plows leave across the driveway is somewhere between gravel and hard-frozen ice cream, shading to wet concrete mix if it partly melts on a sunny day. Guess what that turns into at night. Something just ripe for a pick mattock? Thot so. Sure, if you have the finesse to stop short of the pavement underneath, or planned to repave it in the spring. I've tried my winter climbing gear on a frozen snowbank. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_axe It would have been the right tool to carve stair steps up and over the bank but was nowhere near enough to hack out a vehicle-sized opening. It's sharper than a mattock since it doesn't strike rocks (much). It can't be too sharp because the self-arrest technique if you slip is to hastily grab the wide blade (3) and force the long blade (1) down into the snow. -jsw |
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:51:48 -0800
Larry Jaques wrote: snip You didn't catch the "something a bit smaller" portion of that joke, didja? Handheld, that jet engine would launch _me_. (as if I could lift it.) so I'd have to settle for something about 99.5% smaller. Y'know, 3x larger than a weed burner, and movable. Once a week, I could handle the fuel costs on my 50' driveway. I caught the smiley, why I smiled back ;-) Would a pressure washer leave too much ice? It could blow most powder off the drive, and blast free any previous layers of ice. You need to spend a winter or two in the rustbelt. It routinely gets cold enough around here that the road salt/goop they spread quits working. In those instances a pressure washer would be like spraying ice rather than removing it Snow fall can vary anywhere from light puffy stuff that you could move with air pressure to hard packed stuff that you could cut into chunks and build an igloo. I have/use a half-dozen shovels and a couple brooms depending on the consistency. Your choices are to shovel, plow, blow or drive over it. The latter can become a huge pain though when a big thaw hits. Packed snow and ice that is melting becomes really, really slippery. Even four-wheel drive has its limitations... -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 23:35:54 -0500
"Jim Wilkins" wrote: snip Sure, if you have the finesse to stop short of the pavement underneath, or planned to repave it in the spring. Many years ago I help an old girlfriends brother clear his driveway. He had been driving over the snow and had solid pack maybe 8-10 inches thick. We used his roto-tiller to loosen it up and then shovel off the debris. There was cement underneath. His idea/plan. It didn't work too bad. I wouldn't want to use my tiller though unless there was say gravel underneath. An old set of tines would be best. I saw the drive once the snow was gone and you couldn't see any obvious damage. No more than tire chains would make. -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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news On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 23:35:54 -0500 "Jim Wilkins" wrote: snip Sure, if you have the finesse to stop short of the pavement underneath, or planned to repave it in the spring. Many years ago I help an old girlfriends brother clear his driveway. He had been driving over the snow and had solid pack maybe 8-10 inches thick. We used his roto-tiller to loosen it up and then shovel off the debris. There was cement underneath. His idea/plan. It didn't work too bad. I wouldn't want to use my tiller though unless there was say gravel underneath. An old set of tines would be best. I saw the drive once the snow was gone and you couldn't see any obvious damage. No more than tire chains would make. -- Leon Fisk I stopped using my home-made bucket loader to clear snow after it knocked chunks of asphalt out of the edge of the driveway. It also made a mess of the yard if the ground wasn't frozen solid before the snow fell, i.e. the snow came with a cold front. The skids on the edges of the bucket sank uselessly into the soft mud that forms when the top layer of soil melts but can't drain through the ice below it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasputitsa -jsw |
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:28:04 -0500
"Jim Wilkins" wrote: snip I stopped using my home-made bucket loader to clear snow after it knocked chunks of asphalt out of the edge of the driveway. It also made a mess of the yard if the ground wasn't frozen solid before the snow fell, i.e. the snow came with a cold front. Yeah, really common collateral damage with snow plow removal. It doesn't seem to bother my neighbors but then most of them use lawn service companies (usually the same guy that plows). So it's not their cleanup problem... You should see what the County Road Plows rip up around the area. The trucks have side-wing plows now. Make a real mess of it when the shoulder isn't froze up underneath. -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 23:35:54 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:33:41 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: The consistency of the snowbank the road plows leave across the driveway is somewhere between gravel and hard-frozen ice cream, shading to wet concrete mix if it partly melts on a sunny day. Guess what that turns into at night. Something just ripe for a pick mattock? Thot so. Sure, if you have the finesse to stop short of the pavement underneath, or planned to repave it in the spring. One could use the reverse croquet stance, sir, as if hitting the ball back between one's legs, wot? Or how about the side strike, splitting the mound vertically so you could roll boulders of it to the side? I've tried my winter climbing gear on a frozen snowbank. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_axe Ah. I see. You -were- nuts, climbing up icicles. Eek! It would have been the right tool to carve stair steps up and over the bank but was nowhere near enough to hack out a vehicle-sized opening. I hadn't even considered something that light and small to attack a couple-foot thick mound of solid ice. Aren't they used for clearing ice from crevices to insert expanders or set pitons? It's sharper than a mattock since it doesn't strike rocks (much). It can't be too sharp because the self-arrest technique if you slip is to hastily grab the wide blade (3) and force the long blade (1) down into the snow. Sounds like great fun...for you. Enjoy. I very much prefer snowless areas. -- In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant. --Charles de Gaulle |
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:28:04 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Leon Fisk" wrote in message news On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 23:35:54 -0500 "Jim Wilkins" wrote: snip Sure, if you have the finesse to stop short of the pavement underneath, or planned to repave it in the spring. Many years ago I help an old girlfriends brother clear his driveway. He had been driving over the snow and had solid pack maybe 8-10 inches thick. We used his roto-tiller to loosen it up and then shovel off the debris. There was cement underneath. His idea/plan. It didn't work too bad. I wouldn't want to use my tiller though unless there was say gravel underneath. An old set of tines would be best. I saw the drive once the snow was gone and you couldn't see any obvious damage. No more than tire chains would make. -- Leon Fisk I stopped using my home-made bucket loader to clear snow after it knocked chunks of asphalt out of the edge of the driveway. It also made a mess of the yard if the ground wasn't frozen solid before the snow fell, i.e. the snow came with a cold front. The skids on the edges of the bucket sank uselessly into the soft mud that forms when the top layer of soil melts but can't drain through the ice below it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasputitsa Some of the truck vids from Russia are showing triple tractors trying to free lumber trucks from mudbeds. What a horrible mess that is. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...sian+truck+mud -- In order to become the master, the politician poses as the servant. --Charles de Gaulle |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
... On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 23:35:54 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:33:41 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: The consistency of the snowbank the road plows leave across the driveway is somewhere between gravel and hard-frozen ice cream, shading to wet concrete mix if it partly melts on a sunny day. Guess what that turns into at night. Something just ripe for a pick mattock? Thot so. Sure, if you have the finesse to stop short of the pavement underneath, or planned to repave it in the spring. One could use the reverse croquet stance, sir, as if hitting the ball back between one's legs, wot? Or how about the side strike, splitting the mound vertically so you could roll boulders of it to the side? I've tried my winter climbing gear on a frozen snowbank. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_axe Ah. I see. You -were- nuts, climbing up icicles. Eek! It would have been the right tool to carve stair steps up and over the bank but was nowhere near enough to hack out a vehicle-sized opening. I hadn't even considered something that light and small to attack a couple-foot thick mound of solid ice. Aren't they used for clearing ice from crevices to insert expanders or set pitons? It's sharper than a mattock since it doesn't strike rocks (much). It can't be too sharp because the self-arrest technique if you slip is to hastily grab the wide blade (3) and force the long blade (1) down into the snow. Sounds like great fun...for you. Enjoy. I very much prefer snowless areas. Actually the ice and snow open up areas that are inacessible the rest of the year. Lakes and streams become highways instead of obstructions. |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
... On Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:28:04 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Leon Fisk" wrote in message news On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 23:35:54 -0500 "Jim Wilkins" wrote: snip Sure, if you have the finesse to stop short of the pavement underneath, or planned to repave it in the spring. Many years ago I help an old girlfriends brother clear his driveway. He had been driving over the snow and had solid pack maybe 8-10 inches thick. We used his roto-tiller to loosen it up and then shovel off the debris. There was cement underneath. His idea/plan. It didn't work too bad. I wouldn't want to use my tiller though unless there was say gravel underneath. An old set of tines would be best. I saw the drive once the snow was gone and you couldn't see any obvious damage. No more than tire chains would make. -- Leon Fisk I stopped using my home-made bucket loader to clear snow after it knocked chunks of asphalt out of the edge of the driveway. It also made a mess of the yard if the ground wasn't frozen solid before the snow fell, i.e. the snow came with a cold front. The skids on the edges of the bucket sank uselessly into the soft mud that forms when the top layer of soil melts but can't drain through the ice below it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasputitsa Some of the truck vids from Russia are showing triple tractors trying to free lumber trucks from mudbeds. What a horrible mess that is. https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...sian+truck+mud The off-road motorcycle club I belonged to ran springtime rallys through all the mudholes. It was amazing to watch the Trials experts on their Bultacos float over mud the less skilled of us were waist deep in. -jsw |
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