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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 07:45:33 -0600, "Terry Coombs"
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 20:24:41 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"

I've been shoveling until my back tells me to stop, then finishing
with a snowblower. It helps keep me from getting old.


Yeah, you have to continue to use/work the old bod or it'll rust out
on ya, and far too early at that.


Cutting and splitting firewood works for me .


Urk! To hell with that. Pruning, weeding (both yearround), and
burning works for me, as well as installing solar panels on the roof,
replacing water heaters (both 2017), PW & painting the house (2016),
and PW & sealing the driveway (2017). Overhauling the shop with more
shelving and rearranging everything is going to be a helluva lot of
work, too, but then I'll get to work in there again. Whatta mess!

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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:44:21 -0800
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Heck, if I lived in snow country, I'd figure out some way to use a
turbine blower, melting what didn't blow off my driveway. g
Perhaps something a bit smaller than this: http://tinyurl.com/huoj7uo


You best be government or last name of Gate's, Leno... for that kind of
snow removal. They don't give fuel away around here ;-)

This setup isn't too far away from me:

http://www.mlive.com/business/west-m...llions_to.html

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On Wednesday, February 15, 2017 at 11:44:12 AM UTC-5, Larry Jaques wrote:
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Larry Jaques wrote:

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How about something a little smaller and more affordable?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvR-eaKUVqU


Dang! That thing needs a lot bigger blower for that size motor. Doubt
if the motor even knows it's doing something other than revving up.
Dude's got a few man hours in that machine...

Some awfully cool snowblowers, custom builds on youtube. One I really
liked from several years ago was just a typical 10-15hp dual stage
machine that had been fitted with remote control. Sit inside and blow
driveway ;-)

I'm with Jim, still shovel the stuff out. Someday I'll have to get a
blower but I'm not there yet. And we do get snow. This is from Feb 2014:

http://www.iserv.net/~lfisk/winter2014-02.jpeg

Don't have diddly squat around right now but that is fine by me.


Heck, if I lived in snow country, I'd figure out some way to use a
turbine blower, melting what didn't blow off my driveway. g
Perhaps something a bit smaller than this: http://tinyurl.com/huoj7uo

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OK, but there are snow melters that do some pretty impressive destruction, turning the white stuff to liquid about as fast as you can feed them. I saw a news report a couple of years ago that showed a New York frontloader dumping snow into one of these and water just pouring out of it. https://youtu..be/LmDl_nETs8U
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:43:07 -0400, Leon Fisk
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:27:04 -0800
Larry Jaques wrote:

snip
How about something a little smaller and more affordable?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvR-eaKUVqU


Dang! That thing needs a lot bigger blower for that size motor.
Doubt
if the motor even knows it's doing something other than revving up.
Dude's got a few man hours in that machine...

Some awfully cool snowblowers, custom builds on youtube. One I
really
liked from several years ago was just a typical 10-15hp dual stage
machine that had been fitted with remote control. Sit inside and
blow
driveway ;-)

I'm with Jim, still shovel the stuff out. Someday I'll have to get a
blower but I'm not there yet. And we do get snow. This is from Feb
2014:

http://www.iserv.net/~lfisk/winter2014-02.jpeg

Don't have diddly squat around right now but that is fine by me.


Heck, if I lived in snow country, I'd figure out some way to use a
turbine blower, melting what didn't blow off my driveway. g
Perhaps something a bit smaller than this:
http://tinyurl.com/huoj7uo


The consistency of the snowbank the road plows leave across the
driveway is somewhere between gravel and hard-frozen ice cream,
shading to wet concrete mix if it partly melts on a sunny day. Guess
what that turns into at night.
-jsw


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On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 08:36:52 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 15:35:19 -0800, Larry Jaques
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On Mon, 13 Feb 2017 17:11:09 -0500,
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I blew the belt on my 6HP YammerHammer blower, meaning I had to
push/pull the darn thing home into the garage.
It has (previously) eaten 2 goodsized chunks of newspaper/ads
burried
in the snow - but it wasn't the auger belt that let go - it was
the
drive belt to the Hydro unit. (But I will replace them both while
itr
is apart!!!)

Whuffo you do dat, clare? Ouch!
The paper thrower threw the paper either just before the snow fell,
or
in the middle of the dump. It was totally invisible and unexpected
in
both cases.


Wow, all that trouble from a single newspaper? I thought perhaps
you
had set out a stack for recycling and forgotten it.


They are small enough to pass through the auger and jam against the
impeller. Tree branches and chunks of frozen snowbank dislodged by the
plow can be as bad, and all are invisible in the jumble the plow
leaves, or if the wind levels the surface.
-jsw

With my previous macine, I broke one shear bolt in 29 years when I
forgot that I had anchored a tarp over a piece of equipment withy
bricks!


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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:23:06 -0400, Leon Fisk
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:44:21 -0800
Larry Jaques wrote:

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Heck, if I lived in snow country, I'd figure out some way to use a
turbine blower, melting what didn't blow off my driveway. g
Perhaps something a bit smaller than this: http://tinyurl.com/huoj7uo


You best be government or last name of Gate's, Leno... for that kind of
snow removal. They don't give fuel away around here ;-)


You didn't catch the "something a bit smaller" portion of that joke,
didja? Handheld, that jet engine would launch _me_. (as if I
could lift it.) so I'd have to settle for something about 99.5%
smaller. Y'know, 3x larger than a weed burner, and movable. Once a
week, I could handle the fuel costs on my 50' driveway.

Would a pressure washer leave too much ice? It could blow most powder
off the drive, and blast free any previous layers of ice.


This setup isn't too far away from me:

http://www.mlive.com/business/west-m...llions_to.html


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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:33:41 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 08:43:07 -0400, Leon Fisk
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On Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:27:04 -0800
Larry Jaques wrote:

snip
How about something a little smaller and more affordable?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvR-eaKUVqU

Dang! That thing needs a lot bigger blower for that size motor.
Doubt
if the motor even knows it's doing something other than revving up.
Dude's got a few man hours in that machine...

Some awfully cool snowblowers, custom builds on youtube. One I
really
liked from several years ago was just a typical 10-15hp dual stage
machine that had been fitted with remote control. Sit inside and
blow
driveway ;-)

I'm with Jim, still shovel the stuff out. Someday I'll have to get a
blower but I'm not there yet. And we do get snow. This is from Feb
2014:

http://www.iserv.net/~lfisk/winter2014-02.jpeg

Don't have diddly squat around right now but that is fine by me.


Heck, if I lived in snow country, I'd figure out some way to use a
turbine blower, melting what didn't blow off my driveway. g
Perhaps something a bit smaller than this:
http://tinyurl.com/huoj7uo


The consistency of the snowbank the road plows leave across the
driveway is somewhere between gravel and hard-frozen ice cream,
shading to wet concrete mix if it partly melts on a sunny day. Guess
what that turns into at night.


Something just ripe for a pick mattock? Thot so.

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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:33:41 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
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The consistency of the snowbank the road plows leave across the
driveway is somewhere between gravel and hard-frozen ice cream,
shading to wet concrete mix if it partly melts on a sunny day. Guess
what that turns into at night.


Something just ripe for a pick mattock? Thot so.


Sure, if you have the finesse to stop short of the pavement
underneath, or planned to repave it in the spring.

I've tried my winter climbing gear on a frozen snowbank.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_axe
It would have been the right tool to carve stair steps up and over the
bank but was nowhere near enough to hack out a vehicle-sized opening.

It's sharper than a mattock since it doesn't strike rocks (much). It
can't be too sharp because the self-arrest technique if you slip is to
hastily grab the wide blade (3) and force the long blade (1) down into
the snow.
-jsw


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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:51:48 -0800
Larry Jaques wrote:

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You didn't catch the "something a bit smaller" portion of that joke,
didja? Handheld, that jet engine would launch _me_. (as if I
could lift it.) so I'd have to settle for something about 99.5%
smaller. Y'know, 3x larger than a weed burner, and movable. Once a
week, I could handle the fuel costs on my 50' driveway.


I caught the smiley, why I smiled back ;-)

Would a pressure washer leave too much ice? It could blow most powder
off the drive, and blast free any previous layers of ice.


You need to spend a winter or two in the rustbelt. It routinely gets
cold enough around here that the road salt/goop they spread quits
working. In those instances a pressure washer would be like spraying ice
rather than removing it

Snow fall can vary anywhere from light puffy stuff that you could move
with air pressure to hard packed stuff that you could cut into
chunks and build an igloo. I have/use a half-dozen shovels and a
couple brooms depending on the consistency.

Your choices are to shovel, plow, blow or drive over it. The latter can
become a huge pain though when a big thaw hits. Packed snow and ice
that is melting becomes really, really slippery. Even four-wheel drive
has its limitations...

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On Wed, 15 Feb 2017 23:35:54 -0500
"Jim Wilkins" wrote:

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Sure, if you have the finesse to stop short of the pavement
underneath, or planned to repave it in the spring.


Many years ago I help an old girlfriends brother clear his driveway.
He had been driving over the snow and had solid pack maybe 8-10 inches
thick. We used his roto-tiller to loosen it up and then shovel off the
debris. There was cement underneath. His idea/plan. It didn't work too
bad. I wouldn't want to use my tiller though unless there was say
gravel underneath. An old set of tines would be best. I saw the drive
once the snow was gone and you couldn't see any obvious damage. No more
than tire chains would make.

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