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Gunner Asch[_6_] March 21st 16 02:09 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 07:41:25 +0700, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 15:02:37 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 13:53:46 -0700,
wrote:


Dont be so hard on yourself. Just because you are a complete moron,
doesnt mean you are worthless. Maybe a Little League team could use
3rd base?

Gunner

Does this sound like a description of a licensed electrician?

"As for his "prowess" as an electrical trouble shooter, I picked up a
complete service manual with all of the electrical diagrams and his
"Fix" for the failed components was to bypass the fuses - TO THE
CHARGING CIRCUIT - and baste everything in PB Blaster. There wasn't
anything wrong with the charging circuit. The batteries he had cobbled
together were ****. I picked up a set from Big Joe and, miracle of
miracles, the relay's and solenoinds suddenly started working. It was
pretty obvious at that point that his real skill is bull ****ting. A
ten year old could have made perfect sense of the electrical drawings
but not Gunner."
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....1e94166afc0da2

You seem to have avoided the followup immediately following.


Actually following the above is the statement that:

"Frankly, I felt sorry for him so I stuck an extra couple hundred in
cash in his hands and bid him on his way. I needed my helper back to
do what I pay him for and it didn't look to me that Gunner would get
his job done regardless the time or money allowed."

( perhaps another "stroke moment")


Or another lie.

Gunner Asch[_6_] March 21st 16 02:11 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 07:35:10 +0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 08:21:46 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 08:02:47 -0700,
wrote:


What most Caucasians would describe as a failure.

Did you know that he said he's a licensed electrician?

"Am a licensed electrician in California, with 3 endorsements... Was
asked to run for city council twice...IQ in the mid 150s"
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....beacdc8a0bd420

In 2001..I was a licensed electrician. With 3 endorsements.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-wieber-00bb3660

It was a requirement. Since my current job doesnt require it..I let it
lapse in 2003. You do know that they have to be updated
regularly..right?

http://www.cslb.ca.gov/Contractors/M...e_License.aspx


So far..you seem to be blithering and claiming fact is fiction. Why
would you do that? Is it because you are envious? Why? Is your life
so putred and pitiful that you must make yourself feel good?


Envious? Of a fellow that brags about two days work next week? Or were
you bemoaning the fact that you have to work two days next week?


2 days work? Where was that? I said I have two slow paying clients
that need work. You dont read very well and your comprehension worse
than a retarded child with ADHD.

"Oh! You pooooor fellow, you" You mean you actually have to work TWO
days next week?"

It certainly sounds as though you hang around with a great bunch of
people.


Actually..I do.

(VBG)

Gunner


Gunner Asch[_6_] March 21st 16 02:13 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 07:30:12 +0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 08:09:24 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 10:15:29 +0700,

wrote:

On Tue, 15 Mar 2016 07:36:51 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 17:58:06 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Mar 2016 16:31:36 -0700,
wrote:


If you're going to claim that you really did pay but that the online
records are in error, then don't forget to include some proof of those
payments. And don't bother ginning up some stupid story about it being
difficult to prove. I'll go ahead and predict that the only "proof"
you'll ever provide is more idiotic words.

Hardly difficult to prove. I simply need to get them to post the
payments. Ill call em later this week. And again, cockbreath..thanks
for pointing out their error(s)

Hahahaha! You claim to have a genius level IQ, but you can't think of
any concrete way to reclaim some dignity. A normal person might show
the receipts etc. But you can't do that because the story about making
the payments was an idiotic lie.

Now..will you be paying the rest of them off to gain some sort of
"power" over me?.

What the hell are you blabbering about?

And Ill grin and agree to worship the ground you
walk on. Is that a deal? Or are you just as broke as I am? Ill bet
thats it..you dont have a pot to **** in and are on welfare.

My wealth has nothing to do with your lying. But since you asked, I
am financially secure in my retirement, and compared to you I might as
well be Bill Gates. In a nutshell, brand new custom net-zero lakeview
home on substantial acreage. In-floor heating including the shop, so
no "it's always something" magnetic lathe blankets. I sent some
pictures of the place to Ed Huntress a while back. Ask him for his
impressions if you dare.

Is that true, Welfare Boi? No work because no one wants you on the
property? No...that couldnt be, my Supreme Bean!! Woe..say its not so
Laird...tell them to cast off their chains and motel bills and release
you!! Your mothers house is just the same as your own!!!

Summing up, exactly as I said. First you told a stupid and easily
debunked lie. Then you wrote a bunch more rubbish in a pathetic
attempt to defend yourself. Wasting more of your life and fooling
absolutely no one.

Actually not so. Gunner's dissertations serve the purpose of
reinforcing his beliefs that he is other then a sickly, old fellow who
is out of work and who described his last job as working alongside a
Mexican couple obviously at equal wages.

What most Caucasians would describe as a failure.


Out of work? Blink blink? Whatever gave you that idea?

I just finished this job yesterday.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...BoringHydPress

Now I have 2 jobs next week..both from slow paying customers that Ive
been putting off..because they are..slow paying customers.
And I found out Friday that my nemesis who put me in the ****bag with
Omniturn died in January. (YIPPEEE!!!)...so now Ive a much larger
field to sow my crops in.

VBG


Amazing! Two days work next week.... and then what? A trip downtown to
collect the food stamps?


See previous post.

Which "mexican couple"?


Hell, I don't know. You are the one that described them. Forgot
already? Another "Stroke Moment"?


Then you dragged it out of your ass..again.

One can only speculate. If Gunner is gainfully employed why can't he
pay his taxes?

Oh..you are lying again. Thats hardly surprising now is it...?


Perhaps I am. After all I only repeat what you have said, so perhaps I
am repeating a lie. In fact, now that I recollect some of your more
vocal moments I'm fairly sure of it.


Making up lies is not..not repeating them.


Perhaps we can come up with a "rule of thumb". Something like, "Never,
never repeat anything that Gunner has said as you will be telling
lies".

There now, does that keep you happy?


Your death from HIV would make me happier..but since we cant have
everything. Shrug


Rudy Canoza[_5_] March 21st 16 05:46 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On 3/20/2016 8:21 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 16 Mar 2016 08:02:47 -0700, wrote:


What most Caucasians would describe as a failure.


Did you know that he said he's a licensed electrician?

"Am a licensed electrician in California, with 3 endorsements... Was
asked to run for city council twice...IQ in the mid 150s"


IQ not in mid 150s. Pure bull****.


[email protected] March 21st 16 05:27 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 19:41:04 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 15:30:53 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 08:09:24 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

Actually not so. Gunner's dissertations serve the purpose of
reinforcing his beliefs that he is other then a sickly, old fellow who
is out of work and who described his last job as working alongside a
Mexican couple obviously at equal wages.

What most Caucasians would describe as a failure.

Out of work? Blink blink? Whatever gave you that idea?

I just finished this job yesterday.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...BoringHydPress

Now I have 2 jobs next week..both from slow paying customers that Ive
been putting off..because they are..slow paying customers.
And I found out Friday that my nemesis who put me in the ****bag with
Omniturn died in January. (YIPPEEE!!!)...so now Ive a much larger
field to sow my crops in.

VBG

Which "mexican couple"?

Oh..you are lying again. Thats hardly surprising now is it...?

Gunner


Still waiting for the explanation about the "Mexican couple".
Well?


This one:

"When the average wage in Mexico for those in and below the middle
class is $5 a day..the ability to be given 10x that amount is what
dreams are made of.

"Ive been working with a pair of illegals for the past 3 weeks. Male
and a female. He has 4 kids under the age of 16. His wife was a
criminal, drug addict/thief/bad check writer etc etc...and she was
convicted of her latest crimes..did 2 yrs and was then deported.

"....They were each paid $80 a day, plus an additional $50 for the
truck. Travel distance was 5 miles round trip, 2x a day. So thats
$210 a day. I got paid about $75 a day ..." -- Gunner Asch,
9/15/2015

I think you need a new approach for telling your stories, Gunner. Why
don't you just start with something like, "I know this is all
bull****, but don't forget, I had a stroke. Well, I think I had a
stroke, but I forget."

Then you can launch into your fabricated tales.


Wieber could help himself immensely if only he was smart enough to
stop telling new lies to defend the old. A good recent example: he
said he'd paid off 4 liens, which happen to average about $1000 each.
I proved that he hadn't paid off any liens, or the current bill, or
anything at all for 3 years. He responded by claiming the 4 liens
totaled $1500, and that he'd get the record keepers to fix THEIR
"mistake." Of course the records continue to show the truth, making
Weiber THE most incompetent liar on Usenet.

Every time he gets busted telling a tall tale, his explanation always
defies belief. And the stroke thing. LOL The great catch-all
excuse. Apparently he had the stroke the day he was born. :)

[email protected] March 21st 16 05:33 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 15:04:38 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 13:53:46 -0700, wrote:


Does this sound like it was written by a licensed electrician?

"My normal monthly electric bill is $150 or so (**** you Gray
Davis!!!!) and it seems that the minute I turn a welder on..it goes to
$300 a month."
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!or...0/cnKowXsaCeMJ

Odd...that was quit factual. And in fact..its gotten worse.


Well then Mr. Electrician. Show us the math that proves a welder uses
$150 per month in electricity " the minute you turn it on."

Amazing Whoyakidding prediction: "electrician" Wieber will slobber
endlessly without ever writing anything close to a credible
explanation.

Gunner Asch[_6_] March 21st 16 06:53 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:33:13 -0700, wrote:


Does this sound like it was written by a licensed electrician?

"My normal monthly electric bill is $150 or so (**** you Gray
Davis!!!!) and it seems that the minute I turn a welder on..it goes to
$300 a month."
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!or...0/cnKowXsaCeMJ

Odd...that was quit factual. And in fact..its gotten worse.


Well then Mr. Electrician. Show us the math that proves a welder uses
$150 per month in electricity " the minute you turn it on."

Amazing Whoyakidding prediction: "electrician" Wieber will slobber
endlessly without ever writing anything close to a credible
explanation.


https://www.consumeraffairs.com/util...-electric.html

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r278...sometimes-more

"Not in CA. The CPUC basically allows CA utilities to rape their
customers. They justify this by saying it's "to encourage
conservation". PG&E's rate structure looks very similar to what we
have with SoCal Edison:

Total Energy Rates ($ per kWh)

Baseline Usage: $0.13230 (I)
101% - 130% of Baseline: $0.15040 (I)
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.30025 (I)
201% - 300% of Baseline Over $0.34025 (I)
300% of Baseline: $0.34025 (I)

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf

"Baseline", by the way, is not average usage. The CPUC defines it as
50-70% of average use. No consideration is made for the size of your
home, either. What this means is that any sort of extras (a fish tank,
second fridge) are billed at ridiculous rates. Unseasonably hot
summers can be a real hardship if you're inland."

Need more? You poor stupid fat ****. You only make yourself look a
bigger fool with each post.

Gunner

[email protected] March 21st 16 07:59 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:53:06 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:33:13 -0700, wrote:


Does this sound like it was written by a licensed electrician?

"My normal monthly electric bill is $150 or so (**** you Gray
Davis!!!!) and it seems that the minute I turn a welder on..it goes to
$300 a month."
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!or...0/cnKowXsaCeMJ

Odd...that was quit factual. And in fact..its gotten worse.


Well then Mr. Electrician. Show us the math that proves a welder uses
$150 per month in electricity " the minute you turn it on."

Amazing Whoyakidding prediction: "electrician" Wieber will slobber
endlessly without ever writing anything close to a credible
explanation.


https://www.consumeraffairs.com/util...-electric.html

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r278...sometimes-more

"Not in CA. The CPUC basically allows CA utilities to rape their
customers. They justify this by saying it's "to encourage
conservation". PG&E's rate structure looks very similar to what we
have with SoCal Edison:

Total Energy Rates ($ per kWh)

Baseline Usage: $0.13230 (I)
101% - 130% of Baseline: $0.15040 (I)
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.30025 (I)
201% - 300% of Baseline Over $0.34025 (I)
300% of Baseline: $0.34025 (I)

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf

"Baseline", by the way, is not average usage. The CPUC defines it as
50-70% of average use. No consideration is made for the size of your
home, either. What this means is that any sort of extras (a fish tank,
second fridge) are billed at ridiculous rates. Unseasonably hot
summers can be a real hardship if you're inland."

Need more? You poor stupid fat ****. You only make yourself look a
bigger fool with each post.

Gunner


Cutting and pasting rates does absolutely nothing to demonstrate that
you have the knowledge of an electrician. Neither does it explains
your brain-dead story about a small amount of welding costing $150 a
month. An electrician would know better. Your place is a ******** and
there's no good reason that you couldn't stay in the lower tiers.
Those rates aren't very high, and haven't changed much in a long time.
Of course there are lots of not so good reasons an idiot could have a
high bill.

Care to try again, or will you, 1. exactly as I predicted, just keep
blabbering irrelevant nonsense. Or 2. Run away.

Ed Huntress March 21st 16 08:52 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:27:23 -0700, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 19:41:04 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 15:30:53 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 08:09:24 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

Actually not so. Gunner's dissertations serve the purpose of
reinforcing his beliefs that he is other then a sickly, old fellow who
is out of work and who described his last job as working alongside a
Mexican couple obviously at equal wages.

What most Caucasians would describe as a failure.

Out of work? Blink blink? Whatever gave you that idea?

I just finished this job yesterday.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...BoringHydPress

Now I have 2 jobs next week..both from slow paying customers that Ive
been putting off..because they are..slow paying customers.
And I found out Friday that my nemesis who put me in the ****bag with
Omniturn died in January. (YIPPEEE!!!)...so now Ive a much larger
field to sow my crops in.

VBG

Which "mexican couple"?

Oh..you are lying again. Thats hardly surprising now is it...?

Gunner

Still waiting for the explanation about the "Mexican couple".
Well?


This one:

"When the average wage in Mexico for those in and below the middle
class is $5 a day..the ability to be given 10x that amount is what
dreams are made of.

"Ive been working with a pair of illegals for the past 3 weeks. Male
and a female. He has 4 kids under the age of 16. His wife was a
criminal, drug addict/thief/bad check writer etc etc...and she was
convicted of her latest crimes..did 2 yrs and was then deported.

"....They were each paid $80 a day, plus an additional $50 for the
truck. Travel distance was 5 miles round trip, 2x a day. So thats
$210 a day. I got paid about $75 a day ..." -- Gunner Asch,
9/15/2015

I think you need a new approach for telling your stories, Gunner. Why
don't you just start with something like, "I know this is all
bull****, but don't forget, I had a stroke. Well, I think I had a
stroke, but I forget."

Then you can launch into your fabricated tales.


Wieber could help himself immensely if only he was smart enough to
stop telling new lies to defend the old. A good recent example: he
said he'd paid off 4 liens, which happen to average about $1000 each.
I proved that he hadn't paid off any liens, or the current bill, or
anything at all for 3 years. He responded by claiming the 4 liens
totaled $1500, and that he'd get the record keepers to fix THEIR
"mistake." Of course the records continue to show the truth, making
Weiber THE most incompetent liar on Usenet.

Every time he gets busted telling a tall tale, his explanation always
defies belief. And the stroke thing. LOL The great catch-all
excuse. Apparently he had the stroke the day he was born. :)


Gunner's narrative style doesn't lend itself to an environment in
which everything you say is recorded and archived. He'd do better in
strictly oral discussions -- in an old folk's home, where you can say
anything and nobody remembers it. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

[email protected] March 22nd 16 01:55 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:52:34 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:27:23 -0700, wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 19:41:04 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 15:30:53 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 08:09:24 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

Actually not so. Gunner's dissertations serve the purpose of
reinforcing his beliefs that he is other then a sickly, old fellow who
is out of work and who described his last job as working alongside a
Mexican couple obviously at equal wages.

What most Caucasians would describe as a failure.

Out of work? Blink blink? Whatever gave you that idea?

I just finished this job yesterday.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...BoringHydPress

Now I have 2 jobs next week..both from slow paying customers that Ive
been putting off..because they are..slow paying customers.
And I found out Friday that my nemesis who put me in the ****bag with
Omniturn died in January. (YIPPEEE!!!)...so now Ive a much larger
field to sow my crops in.

VBG

Which "mexican couple"?

Oh..you are lying again. Thats hardly surprising now is it...?

Gunner

Still waiting for the explanation about the "Mexican couple".
Well?

This one:

"When the average wage in Mexico for those in and below the middle
class is $5 a day..the ability to be given 10x that amount is what
dreams are made of.

"Ive been working with a pair of illegals for the past 3 weeks. Male
and a female. He has 4 kids under the age of 16. His wife was a
criminal, drug addict/thief/bad check writer etc etc...and she was
convicted of her latest crimes..did 2 yrs and was then deported.

"....They were each paid $80 a day, plus an additional $50 for the
truck. Travel distance was 5 miles round trip, 2x a day. So thats
$210 a day. I got paid about $75 a day ..." -- Gunner Asch,
9/15/2015

I think you need a new approach for telling your stories, Gunner. Why
don't you just start with something like, "I know this is all
bull****, but don't forget, I had a stroke. Well, I think I had a
stroke, but I forget."

Then you can launch into your fabricated tales.


Wieber could help himself immensely if only he was smart enough to
stop telling new lies to defend the old. A good recent example: he
said he'd paid off 4 liens, which happen to average about $1000 each.
I proved that he hadn't paid off any liens, or the current bill, or
anything at all for 3 years. He responded by claiming the 4 liens
totaled $1500, and that he'd get the record keepers to fix THEIR
"mistake." Of course the records continue to show the truth, making
Weiber THE most incompetent liar on Usenet.

Every time he gets busted telling a tall tale, his explanation always
defies belief. And the stroke thing. LOL The great catch-all
excuse. Apparently he had the stroke the day he was born. :)


Gunner's narrative style doesn't lend itself to an environment in
which everything you say is recorded and archived. He'd do better in
strictly oral discussions -- in an old folk's home, where you can say
anything and nobody remembers it. d8-)


Plus he'd have a real bed instead of sleeping in his truck most
nights! Which brings to mind an obvious question. How the hell does
Wieber expect anyone to believe that he's a hard worker with a million
skills and accomplishments and a genius IQ... when he's been broke his
entire life and is spending his 60s sleeping in his truck most nights?
But I guess if his diseased brain thinks that people should believe
him, then it's not much more of a stretch for him to imagine that his
opinion on global climate matters should be taken more seriously than
genuine science. Even here on Usenet where poorly considered opinions
see way too much light, perhaps there should be a new low bar for
participants: If you sleep in your truck most nights then you're
restricted to opinions about which dumpsters have the best entrees.

Gunner Asch[_6_] March 22nd 16 01:57 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:59:30 -0700, wrote:


Amazing Whoyakidding prediction: "electrician" Wieber will slobber
endlessly without ever writing anything close to a credible
explanation.


https://www.consumeraffairs.com/util...-electric.html

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r278...sometimes-more

"Not in CA. The CPUC basically allows CA utilities to rape their
customers. They justify this by saying it's "to encourage
conservation". PG&E's rate structure looks very similar to what we
have with SoCal Edison:

Total Energy Rates ($ per kWh)

Baseline Usage: $0.13230 (I)
101% - 130% of Baseline: $0.15040 (I)
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.30025 (I)
201% - 300% of Baseline Over $0.34025 (I)
300% of Baseline: $0.34025 (I)

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf

"Baseline", by the way, is not average usage. The CPUC defines it as
50-70% of average use. No consideration is made for the size of your
home, either. What this means is that any sort of extras (a fish tank,
second fridge) are billed at ridiculous rates. Unseasonably hot
summers can be a real hardship if you're inland."

Need more? You poor stupid fat ****. You only make yourself look a
bigger fool with each post.

Gunner


Cutting and pasting rates does absolutely nothing to demonstrate that
you have the knowledge of an electrician. Neither does it explains
your brain-dead story about a small amount of welding costing $150 a
month. An electrician would know better. Your place is a ******** and
there's no good reason that you couldn't stay in the lower tiers.
Those rates aren't very high, and haven't changed much in a long time.
Of course there are lots of not so good reasons an idiot could have a
high bill.


Denying and trying to foist your prejudiced and rancid hate on me
simply makes me laugh at you. Its obvious you haven't a clue how to
read the rate tiers and have zero comprehension of the ramifications.
I did give you the chance, when I posted the links to the Consumer
Affairs site with the long listing of letters from other people.

Your hate and bias and bigotry has once again...proven you to be a
total wackjob. But we already knew that..its been obvious for a very
long time.

Care to try again, or will you, 1. exactly as I predicted, just keep
blabbering irrelevant nonsense. Or 2. Run away.


You mean put you in the Bozo bin? Nah...not for a while yet. Having
you show who and what you actually are..is priceless.

Gunner

Bill Flett March 22nd 16 02:40 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On 3/21/2016 10:53 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:33:13 -0700, wrote:


Does this sound like it was written by a licensed electrician?

"My normal monthly electric bill is $150 or so (**** you Gray
Davis!!!!) and it seems that the minute I turn a welder on..it goes to
$300 a month."
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!or...0/cnKowXsaCeMJ

Odd...that was quit factual. And in fact..its gotten worse.


Well then Mr. Electrician. Show us the math that proves a welder uses
$150 per month in electricity " the minute you turn it on."

Amazing Whoyakidding prediction: "electrician" Wieber will slobber
endlessly without ever writing anything close to a credible
explanation.


https://www.consumeraffairs.com/util...-electric.html

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r278...sometimes-more

"Not in CA. The CPUC basically allows CA utilities to rape their
customers. They justify this by saying it's "to encourage
conservation". PG&E's rate structure looks very similar to what we
have with SoCal Edison:

Total Energy Rates ($ per kWh)

Baseline Usage: $0.13230 (I)
101% - 130% of Baseline: $0.15040 (I)
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.30025 (I)
201% - 300% of Baseline Over $0.34025 (I)
300% of Baseline: $0.34025 (I)

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf


None of that shows that a welder incurs a charge of $150 per month "the
minute you turn it on."

Try again.


Bill Flett March 22nd 16 02:50 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On 3/21/2016 5:57 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:59:30 -0700, wrote:


Amazing Whoyakidding prediction: "electrician" Wieber will slobber
endlessly without ever writing anything close to a credible
explanation.

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/util...-electric.html

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r278...sometimes-more

"Not in CA. The CPUC basically allows CA utilities to rape their
customers. They justify this by saying it's "to encourage
conservation". PG&E's rate structure looks very similar to what we
have with SoCal Edison:

Total Energy Rates ($ per kWh)

Baseline Usage: $0.13230 (I)
101% - 130% of Baseline: $0.15040 (I)
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.30025 (I)
201% - 300% of Baseline Over $0.34025 (I)
300% of Baseline: $0.34025 (I)

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf

"Baseline", by the way, is not average usage. The CPUC defines it as
50-70% of average use. No consideration is made for the size of your
home, either. What this means is that any sort of extras (a fish tank,
second fridge) are billed at ridiculous rates. Unseasonably hot
summers can be a real hardship if you're inland."

Need more? You poor stupid fat ****. You only make yourself look a
bigger fool with each post.

Gunner


Cutting and pasting rates does absolutely nothing to demonstrate that
you have the knowledge of an electrician. Neither does it explains
your brain-dead story about a small amount of welding costing $150 a
month. An electrician would know better. Your place is a ******** and
there's no good reason that you couldn't stay in the lower tiers.
Those rates aren't very high, and haven't changed much in a long time.
Of course there are lots of not so good reasons an idiot could have a
high bill.


Denying and trying to foist your prejudiced and rancid hate on me
simply makes me laugh at you. Its obvious you haven't a clue how to
read the rate tiers and have zero comprehension of the ramifications.
I did give you the chance, when I posted the links to the Consumer
Affairs site with the long listing of letters from other people.

Your hate and bias and bigotry has once again...proven you to be a
total wackjob. But we already knew that..its been obvious for a very
long time.

Care to try again, or will you, 1. exactly as I predicted, just keep
blabbering irrelevant nonsense. Or 2. Run away.


You mean put you in the Bozo bin? Nah...not for a while yet. Having
you show who and what you actually are..


your better, hundreds of times over.


[email protected] March 22nd 16 02:51 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:59:30 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:53:06 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:33:13 -0700,
wrote:


Does this sound like it was written by a licensed electrician?

"My normal monthly electric bill is $150 or so (**** you Gray
Davis!!!!) and it seems that the minute I turn a welder on..it goes to
$300 a month."
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!or...0/cnKowXsaCeMJ

Odd...that was quit factual. And in fact..its gotten worse.

Well then Mr. Electrician. Show us the math that proves a welder uses
$150 per month in electricity " the minute you turn it on."

Amazing Whoyakidding prediction: "electrician" Wieber will slobber
endlessly without ever writing anything close to a credible
explanation.


https://www.consumeraffairs.com/util...-electric.html

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r278...sometimes-more

"Not in CA. The CPUC basically allows CA utilities to rape their
customers. They justify this by saying it's "to encourage
conservation". PG&E's rate structure looks very similar to what we
have with SoCal Edison:

Total Energy Rates ($ per kWh)

Baseline Usage: $0.13230 (I)
101% - 130% of Baseline: $0.15040 (I)
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.30025 (I)
201% - 300% of Baseline Over $0.34025 (I)
300% of Baseline: $0.34025 (I)

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf

"Baseline", by the way, is not average usage. The CPUC defines it as
50-70% of average use. No consideration is made for the size of your
home, either. What this means is that any sort of extras (a fish tank,
second fridge) are billed at ridiculous rates. Unseasonably hot
summers can be a real hardship if you're inland."

Need more? You poor stupid fat ****. You only make yourself look a
bigger fool with each post.

Gunner


Cutting and pasting rates does absolutely nothing to demonstrate that
you have the knowledge of an electrician. Neither does it explains
your brain-dead story about a small amount of welding costing $150 a
month. An electrician would know better. Your place is a ******** and
there's no good reason that you couldn't stay in the lower tiers.
Those rates aren't very high, and haven't changed much in a long time.
Of course there are lots of not so good reasons an idiot could have a
high bill.

Care to try again, or will you, 1. exactly as I predicted, just keep
blabbering irrelevant nonsense. Or 2. Run away.


Come now. He doesn't "run away" he has this big time career in Los
Angeles. My goodness he even posted (Boasted?) about having the
astonishing sum of $10,000 in the bank once, I gathered that was a
once in a lifetime event.
--
Cheers,

Schweik

Gunner Asch[_6_] March 22nd 16 02:57 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:55:06 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:52:34 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:27:23 -0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 19:41:04 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 15:30:53 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 08:09:24 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

Actually not so. Gunner's dissertations serve the purpose of
reinforcing his beliefs that he is other then a sickly, old fellow who
is out of work and who described his last job as working alongside a
Mexican couple obviously at equal wages.

What most Caucasians would describe as a failure.

Out of work? Blink blink? Whatever gave you that idea?

I just finished this job yesterday.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...BoringHydPress

Now I have 2 jobs next week..both from slow paying customers that Ive
been putting off..because they are..slow paying customers.
And I found out Friday that my nemesis who put me in the ****bag with
Omniturn died in January. (YIPPEEE!!!)...so now Ive a much larger
field to sow my crops in.

VBG

Which "mexican couple"?

Oh..you are lying again. Thats hardly surprising now is it...?

Gunner

Still waiting for the explanation about the "Mexican couple".
Well?

This one:

"When the average wage in Mexico for those in and below the middle
class is $5 a day..the ability to be given 10x that amount is what
dreams are made of.

"Ive been working with a pair of illegals for the past 3 weeks. Male
and a female. He has 4 kids under the age of 16. His wife was a
criminal, drug addict/thief/bad check writer etc etc...and she was
convicted of her latest crimes..did 2 yrs and was then deported.

"....They were each paid $80 a day, plus an additional $50 for the
truck. Travel distance was 5 miles round trip, 2x a day. So thats
$210 a day. I got paid about $75 a day ..." -- Gunner Asch,
9/15/2015

I think you need a new approach for telling your stories, Gunner. Why
don't you just start with something like, "I know this is all
bull****, but don't forget, I had a stroke. Well, I think I had a
stroke, but I forget."

Then you can launch into your fabricated tales.

Wieber could help himself immensely if only he was smart enough to
stop telling new lies to defend the old. A good recent example: he
said he'd paid off 4 liens, which happen to average about $1000 each.
I proved that he hadn't paid off any liens, or the current bill, or
anything at all for 3 years. He responded by claiming the 4 liens
totaled $1500, and that he'd get the record keepers to fix THEIR
"mistake." Of course the records continue to show the truth, making
Weiber THE most incompetent liar on Usenet.

Every time he gets busted telling a tall tale, his explanation always
defies belief. And the stroke thing. LOL The great catch-all
excuse. Apparently he had the stroke the day he was born. :)


Gunner's narrative style doesn't lend itself to an environment in
which everything you say is recorded and archived. He'd do better in
strictly oral discussions -- in an old folk's home, where you can say
anything and nobody remembers it. d8-)


Plus he'd have a real bed instead of sleeping in his truck most
nights! Which brings to mind an obvious question. How the hell does
Wieber expect anyone to believe that he's a hard worker with a million
skills and accomplishments and a genius IQ... when he's been broke his
entire life and is spending his 60s sleeping in his truck most nights?
But I guess if his diseased brain thinks that people should believe
him, then it's not much more of a stretch for him to imagine that his
opinion on global climate matters should be taken more seriously than
genuine science. Even here on Usenet where poorly considered opinions
see way too much light, perhaps there should be a new low bar for
participants: If you sleep in your truck most nights then you're
restricted to opinions about which dumpsters have the best entrees.


ROFLMAO!!!

Gunner

Gunner Asch[_6_] March 22nd 16 03:11 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 18:50:49 -0700, Bill Flett
wrote:

On 3/21/2016 5:57 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:59:30 -0700, wrote:


Amazing Whoyakidding prediction: "electrician" Wieber will slobber
endlessly without ever writing anything close to a credible
explanation.

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/util...-electric.html

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r278...sometimes-more

"Not in CA. The CPUC basically allows CA utilities to rape their
customers. They justify this by saying it's "to encourage
conservation". PG&E's rate structure looks very similar to what we
have with SoCal Edison:

Total Energy Rates ($ per kWh)

Baseline Usage: $0.13230 (I)
101% - 130% of Baseline: $0.15040 (I)
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.30025 (I)
201% - 300% of Baseline Over $0.34025 (I)
300% of Baseline: $0.34025 (I)

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf

"Baseline", by the way, is not average usage. The CPUC defines it as
50-70% of average use. No consideration is made for the size of your
home, either. What this means is that any sort of extras (a fish tank,
second fridge) are billed at ridiculous rates. Unseasonably hot
summers can be a real hardship if you're inland."

Need more? You poor stupid fat ****. You only make yourself look a
bigger fool with each post.

Gunner

Cutting and pasting rates does absolutely nothing to demonstrate that
you have the knowledge of an electrician. Neither does it explains
your brain-dead story about a small amount of welding costing $150 a
month. An electrician would know better. Your place is a ******** and
there's no good reason that you couldn't stay in the lower tiers.
Those rates aren't very high, and haven't changed much in a long time.
Of course there are lots of not so good reasons an idiot could have a
high bill.


Denying and trying to foist your prejudiced and rancid hate on me
simply makes me laugh at you. Its obvious you haven't a clue how to
read the rate tiers and have zero comprehension of the ramifications.
I did give you the chance, when I posted the links to the Consumer
Affairs site with the long listing of letters from other people.

Your hate and bias and bigotry has once again...proven you to be a
total wackjob. But we already knew that..its been obvious for a very
long time.

Care to try again, or will you, 1. exactly as I predicted, just keep
blabbering irrelevant nonsense. Or 2. Run away.


You mean put you in the Bozo bin? Nah...not for a while yet. Having
you show who and what you actually are..


your better, hundreds of times over.


Im better than what/who?

Gunner

Gunner Asch[_6_] March 22nd 16 03:18 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:51:13 +0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:59:30 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:53:06 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:33:13 -0700,
wrote:


Does this sound like it was written by a licensed electrician?

"My normal monthly electric bill is $150 or so (**** you Gray
Davis!!!!) and it seems that the minute I turn a welder on..it goes to
$300 a month."
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!or...0/cnKowXsaCeMJ

Odd...that was quit factual. And in fact..its gotten worse.

Well then Mr. Electrician. Show us the math that proves a welder uses
$150 per month in electricity " the minute you turn it on."

Amazing Whoyakidding prediction: "electrician" Wieber will slobber
endlessly without ever writing anything close to a credible
explanation.

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/util...-electric.html

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r278...sometimes-more

"Not in CA. The CPUC basically allows CA utilities to rape their
customers. They justify this by saying it's "to encourage
conservation". PG&E's rate structure looks very similar to what we
have with SoCal Edison:

Total Energy Rates ($ per kWh)

Baseline Usage: $0.13230 (I)
101% - 130% of Baseline: $0.15040 (I)
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.30025 (I)
201% - 300% of Baseline Over $0.34025 (I)
300% of Baseline: $0.34025 (I)

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf

"Baseline", by the way, is not average usage. The CPUC defines it as
50-70% of average use. No consideration is made for the size of your
home, either. What this means is that any sort of extras (a fish tank,
second fridge) are billed at ridiculous rates. Unseasonably hot
summers can be a real hardship if you're inland."

Need more? You poor stupid fat ****. You only make yourself look a
bigger fool with each post.

Gunner


Cutting and pasting rates does absolutely nothing to demonstrate that
you have the knowledge of an electrician. Neither does it explains
your brain-dead story about a small amount of welding costing $150 a
month. An electrician would know better. Your place is a ******** and
there's no good reason that you couldn't stay in the lower tiers.
Those rates aren't very high, and haven't changed much in a long time.
Of course there are lots of not so good reasons an idiot could have a
high bill.

Care to try again, or will you, 1. exactly as I predicted, just keep
blabbering irrelevant nonsense. Or 2. Run away.


Come now. He doesn't "run away" he has this big time career in Los
Angeles. My goodness he even posted (Boasted?) about having the
astonishing sum of $10,000 in the bank once, I gathered that was a
once in a lifetime event.


Really? When was that?
That was nothing. I had $250k in the bank once. Then my kid
discovered the joys of meth. I didnt have any money by the time I got
him cleaned up. Shrug. He has been clean and sober for 18 yrs
now...is a father with 3 kids (love my grand kids). Shrug again.

Big time career? Who? Since California has been running companies out
of the state...any hope of a "big time career" is long past. What..you
didnt figure that out from the interchange between butt**** and
myself? There is a reason I sleep in my vehicle when Im in So Cal.
Because I cant afford an apartment like I used to. I closed it down in
2011. Geeze dude..are you really that slow? Or is it simply rampant
stupidity in your family that causes you to post really dumb **** like
that?

Gunner

Gunner Asch[_6_] March 22nd 16 03:20 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 18:40:51 -0700, Bill Flett
wrote:

On 3/21/2016 10:53 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:33:13 -0700, wrote:


Does this sound like it was written by a licensed electrician?

"My normal monthly electric bill is $150 or so (**** you Gray
Davis!!!!) and it seems that the minute I turn a welder on..it goes to
$300 a month."
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!or...0/cnKowXsaCeMJ

Odd...that was quit factual. And in fact..its gotten worse.

Well then Mr. Electrician. Show us the math that proves a welder uses
$150 per month in electricity " the minute you turn it on."

Amazing Whoyakidding prediction: "electrician" Wieber will slobber
endlessly without ever writing anything close to a credible
explanation.


https://www.consumeraffairs.com/util...-electric.html

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r278...sometimes-more

"Not in CA. The CPUC basically allows CA utilities to rape their
customers. They justify this by saying it's "to encourage
conservation". PG&E's rate structure looks very similar to what we
have with SoCal Edison:

Total Energy Rates ($ per kWh)

Baseline Usage: $0.13230 (I)
101% - 130% of Baseline: $0.15040 (I)
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.30025 (I)
201% - 300% of Baseline Over $0.34025 (I)
300% of Baseline: $0.34025 (I)

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf


None of that shows that a welder incurs a charge of $150 per month "the
minute you turn it on."

Try again.


Looks like its time to start looking at the header information.
Bill Flett suddenly appears....lol

And you accuse me of lying...LOL!!


Gunner

Gunner Asch[_6_] March 22nd 16 03:41 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 18:40:51 -0700, Bill Flett
wrote:

On 3/21/2016 10:53 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:33:13 -0700, wrote:


Does this sound like it was written by a licensed electrician?

"My normal monthly electric bill is $150 or so (**** you Gray
Davis!!!!) and it seems that the minute I turn a welder on..it goes to
$300 a month."
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!or...0/cnKowXsaCeMJ

Odd...that was quit factual. And in fact..its gotten worse.

Well then Mr. Electrician. Show us the math that proves a welder uses
$150 per month in electricity " the minute you turn it on."

Amazing Whoyakidding prediction: "electrician" Wieber will slobber
endlessly without ever writing anything close to a credible
explanation.


https://www.consumeraffairs.com/util...-electric.html

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r278...sometimes-more

"Not in CA. The CPUC basically allows CA utilities to rape their
customers. They justify this by saying it's "to encourage
conservation". PG&E's rate structure looks very similar to what we
have with SoCal Edison:

Total Energy Rates ($ per kWh)

Baseline Usage: $0.13230 (I)
101% - 130% of Baseline: $0.15040 (I)
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.30025 (I)
201% - 300% of Baseline Over $0.34025 (I)
300% of Baseline: $0.34025 (I)

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf


None of that shows that a welder incurs a charge of $150 per month "the
minute you turn it on."

Try again.


Which reminds me...

"and it seems that the minute I turn a welder on..it goes to
$300 a month."

You really have a comprehension problem dont you? Some form of autism
perhaps? Overuse of booze, poisoning that pesky front left side of
your mush filled skull?

You have never encountered the verb "seems" before? Thats....unusual.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/seems

seem
(se-m)
intr.v. seemed, seem·ing, seems
1. To give the impression of being in a certain way; appear to be: The
child seems healthy, but the doctor is concerned. The house seems to
be in good condition.
2. Used to call attention to one's impression or understanding about
something, especially in weakening the force of a following
infinitive: I can't seem to find a smart leftwinger.
3. To appear to be probable or evident: It seems you object to the
plan. It seems like rain.

btw...Im only going to deal with (1) of your nyms, so this one goes
into the bozo bin.

plink



Gunner

Gunner Asch[_6_] March 22nd 16 03:43 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:51:13 +0700,
wrote:

Come now. He doesn't "run away" he has this big time career in Los
Angeles. My goodness he even posted (Boasted?) about having the
astonishing sum of $10,000 in the bank once, I gathered that was a
once in a lifetime event.
--
Cheers,

Schweik


This nym goes in as well

plink

I only have to deal with you using a single nym. And no matter how
often you change it...Ive got plenty of room in the bit bucket.

Gunner

Ed Huntress March 22nd 16 02:05 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:55:06 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:52:34 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:27:23 -0700,
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 19:41:04 -0400, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 15:30:53 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 20 Mar 2016 08:09:24 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

Actually not so. Gunner's dissertations serve the purpose of
reinforcing his beliefs that he is other then a sickly, old fellow who
is out of work and who described his last job as working alongside a
Mexican couple obviously at equal wages.

What most Caucasians would describe as a failure.

Out of work? Blink blink? Whatever gave you that idea?

I just finished this job yesterday.....

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...BoringHydPress

Now I have 2 jobs next week..both from slow paying customers that Ive
been putting off..because they are..slow paying customers.
And I found out Friday that my nemesis who put me in the ****bag with
Omniturn died in January. (YIPPEEE!!!)...so now Ive a much larger
field to sow my crops in.

VBG

Which "mexican couple"?

Oh..you are lying again. Thats hardly surprising now is it...?

Gunner

Still waiting for the explanation about the "Mexican couple".
Well?

This one:

"When the average wage in Mexico for those in and below the middle
class is $5 a day..the ability to be given 10x that amount is what
dreams are made of.

"Ive been working with a pair of illegals for the past 3 weeks. Male
and a female. He has 4 kids under the age of 16. His wife was a
criminal, drug addict/thief/bad check writer etc etc...and she was
convicted of her latest crimes..did 2 yrs and was then deported.

"....They were each paid $80 a day, plus an additional $50 for the
truck. Travel distance was 5 miles round trip, 2x a day. So thats
$210 a day. I got paid about $75 a day ..." -- Gunner Asch,
9/15/2015

I think you need a new approach for telling your stories, Gunner. Why
don't you just start with something like, "I know this is all
bull****, but don't forget, I had a stroke. Well, I think I had a
stroke, but I forget."

Then you can launch into your fabricated tales.

Wieber could help himself immensely if only he was smart enough to
stop telling new lies to defend the old. A good recent example: he
said he'd paid off 4 liens, which happen to average about $1000 each.
I proved that he hadn't paid off any liens, or the current bill, or
anything at all for 3 years. He responded by claiming the 4 liens
totaled $1500, and that he'd get the record keepers to fix THEIR
"mistake." Of course the records continue to show the truth, making
Weiber THE most incompetent liar on Usenet.

Every time he gets busted telling a tall tale, his explanation always
defies belief. And the stroke thing. LOL The great catch-all
excuse. Apparently he had the stroke the day he was born. :)


Gunner's narrative style doesn't lend itself to an environment in
which everything you say is recorded and archived. He'd do better in
strictly oral discussions -- in an old folk's home, where you can say
anything and nobody remembers it. d8-)


Plus he'd have a real bed instead of sleeping in his truck most
nights! Which brings to mind an obvious question. How the hell does
Wieber expect anyone to believe that he's a hard worker with a million
skills and accomplishments and a genius IQ... when he's been broke his
entire life and is spending his 60s sleeping in his truck most nights?
But I guess if his diseased brain thinks that people should believe
him, then it's not much more of a stretch for him to imagine that his
opinion on global climate matters should be taken more seriously than
genuine science. Even here on Usenet where poorly considered opinions
see way too much light, perhaps there should be a new low bar for
participants: If you sleep in your truck most nights then you're
restricted to opinions about which dumpsters have the best entrees.


After watching him and a couple others of his ilk here for 14 years, I
think the answer is that he's unconsciously playing a statistics game.
The number of people who care about what he says, outside of
metalworking topics, is not very large. Of the two groups who do care,
one is made up of people who are vulnerable to his bluster and who
don't care about facts. They think he's right because they want to
believe he's right. They're part of the same cultural/political tribe
that he is.

Another group is people who *do* care about facts, and who know how to
check them. His response to them is to distract attention with insults
and slurs, and to spin the story to cover up the facts.

The game is based on how much blustering throw-weight he can apply.
When he can generate enough noise, he can cover up his bull**** for
most readers, who don't care very much and who just see a long-running
argument.

That appears to be how much online discussion goes these days.

--
Ed Huntress

[email protected] March 22nd 16 04:09 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 19:18:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:51:13 +0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:59:30 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:53:06 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:33:13 -0700,
wrote:


Does this sound like it was written by a licensed electrician?

"My normal monthly electric bill is $150 or so (**** you Gray
Davis!!!!) and it seems that the minute I turn a welder on..it goes to
$300 a month."
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!or...0/cnKowXsaCeMJ

Odd...that was quit factual. And in fact..its gotten worse.

Well then Mr. Electrician. Show us the math that proves a welder uses
$150 per month in electricity " the minute you turn it on."

Amazing Whoyakidding prediction: "electrician" Wieber will slobber
endlessly without ever writing anything close to a credible
explanation.

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/util...-electric.html

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r278...sometimes-more

"Not in CA. The CPUC basically allows CA utilities to rape their
customers. They justify this by saying it's "to encourage
conservation". PG&E's rate structure looks very similar to what we
have with SoCal Edison:

Total Energy Rates ($ per kWh)

Baseline Usage: $0.13230 (I)
101% - 130% of Baseline: $0.15040 (I)
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.30025 (I)
201% - 300% of Baseline Over $0.34025 (I)
300% of Baseline: $0.34025 (I)

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf

"Baseline", by the way, is not average usage. The CPUC defines it as
50-70% of average use. No consideration is made for the size of your
home, either. What this means is that any sort of extras (a fish tank,
second fridge) are billed at ridiculous rates. Unseasonably hot
summers can be a real hardship if you're inland."

Need more? You poor stupid fat ****. You only make yourself look a
bigger fool with each post.

Gunner

Cutting and pasting rates does absolutely nothing to demonstrate that
you have the knowledge of an electrician. Neither does it explains
your brain-dead story about a small amount of welding costing $150 a
month. An electrician would know better. Your place is a ******** and
there's no good reason that you couldn't stay in the lower tiers.
Those rates aren't very high, and haven't changed much in a long time.
Of course there are lots of not so good reasons an idiot could have a
high bill.

Care to try again, or will you, 1. exactly as I predicted, just keep
blabbering irrelevant nonsense. Or 2. Run away.


Come now. He doesn't "run away" he has this big time career in Los
Angeles. My goodness he even posted (Boasted?) about having the
astonishing sum of $10,000 in the bank once, I gathered that was a
once in a lifetime event.


Really? When was that?
That was nothing. I had $250k in the bank once.


Bwahahahaha! At what point in your lien history
http://tinyurl.com/d7hkkp are you claiming you had a quarter million?

Look, nobody believes the $10k claim because it doesn't make any
sense. So what is the point of ramping it up by 25X?

Then my kid
discovered the joys of meth. I didnt have any money by the time I got
him cleaned up. Shrug. He has been clean and sober for 18 yrs
now...is a father with 3 kids (love my grand kids). Shrug again.


Every one of your stories has a different spin. Here's how you
described him previously: "Son moves out with his fat, ugly internet
girl friend, to a town 80 miles away. No money, no job.. but one step
ahead of the bills."
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....ecb1feee7c3603
You've written that they were on social assistance. Dollars to donuts
they still are. I say that because he has his own lien list, and you
bloody well know all about it and much more. Sounds like a chip off
the old block!

Big time career? Who? Since California has been running companies out
of the state...any hope of a "big time career" is long past. What..you
didnt figure that out from the interchange between butt**** and
myself? There is a reason I sleep in my vehicle when Im in So Cal.
Because I cant afford an apartment like I used to.


No, you didn't have an apartment. It was a 20' travel trailer as you
described in the link above. "I spend my nights during the week in 20'
travel trailer" Now you spend most nights in your truck, which is a
step down.

I closed it down in
2011. Geeze dude..are you really that slow? Or is it simply rampant
stupidity in your family that causes you to post really dumb **** like
that?


The only "dumb ****" here is the new lies you're writing to defend
against the old ones. When will you learn that it doesn't work?


Now, are you going to try any more defense of your claim of having
been a licensed electrician, or will you run away as usual?

[email protected] March 22nd 16 04:10 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:57:12 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:59:30 -0700, wrote:


Amazing Whoyakidding prediction: "electrician" Wieber will slobber
endlessly without ever writing anything close to a credible
explanation.

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/util...-electric.html

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r278...sometimes-more

"Not in CA. The CPUC basically allows CA utilities to rape their
customers. They justify this by saying it's "to encourage
conservation". PG&E's rate structure looks very similar to what we
have with SoCal Edison:

Total Energy Rates ($ per kWh)

Baseline Usage: $0.13230 (I)
101% - 130% of Baseline: $0.15040 (I)
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.30025 (I)
201% - 300% of Baseline Over $0.34025 (I)
300% of Baseline: $0.34025 (I)

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf

"Baseline", by the way, is not average usage. The CPUC defines it as
50-70% of average use. No consideration is made for the size of your
home, either. What this means is that any sort of extras (a fish tank,
second fridge) are billed at ridiculous rates. Unseasonably hot
summers can be a real hardship if you're inland."

Need more? You poor stupid fat ****. You only make yourself look a
bigger fool with each post.

Gunner


Cutting and pasting rates does absolutely nothing to demonstrate that
you have the knowledge of an electrician. Neither does it explains
your brain-dead story about a small amount of welding costing $150 a
month. An electrician would know better. Your place is a ******** and
there's no good reason that you couldn't stay in the lower tiers.
Those rates aren't very high, and haven't changed much in a long time.
Of course there are lots of not so good reasons an idiot could have a
high bill.


Denying and trying to foist your prejudiced and rancid hate on me
simply makes me laugh at you. Its obvious you haven't a clue how to
read the rate tiers and have zero comprehension of the ramifications.
I did give you the chance, when I posted the links to the Consumer
Affairs site with the long listing of letters from other people.

Your hate and bias and bigotry has once again...proven you to be a
total wackjob. But we already knew that..its been obvious for a very
long time.

Care to try again, or will you, 1. exactly as I predicted, just keep
blabbering irrelevant nonsense. Or 2. Run away.


You mean put you in the Bozo bin? Nah...not for a while yet. Having
you show who and what you actually are..is priceless.


What a shock that you have not and will not be writing anything but
bluster to defend your claim of having been an electrician. Who do you
think you're fooling?

[email protected] March 22nd 16 04:11 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:51:13 +0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:59:30 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:53:06 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:33:13 -0700,
wrote:


Does this sound like it was written by a licensed electrician?

"My normal monthly electric bill is $150 or so (**** you Gray
Davis!!!!) and it seems that the minute I turn a welder on..it goes to
$300 a month."
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!or...0/cnKowXsaCeMJ

Odd...that was quit factual. And in fact..its gotten worse.

Well then Mr. Electrician. Show us the math that proves a welder uses
$150 per month in electricity " the minute you turn it on."

Amazing Whoyakidding prediction: "electrician" Wieber will slobber
endlessly without ever writing anything close to a credible
explanation.

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/util...-electric.html

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r278...sometimes-more

"Not in CA. The CPUC basically allows CA utilities to rape their
customers. They justify this by saying it's "to encourage
conservation". PG&E's rate structure looks very similar to what we
have with SoCal Edison:

Total Energy Rates ($ per kWh)

Baseline Usage: $0.13230 (I)
101% - 130% of Baseline: $0.15040 (I)
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.30025 (I)
201% - 300% of Baseline Over $0.34025 (I)
300% of Baseline: $0.34025 (I)

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf

"Baseline", by the way, is not average usage. The CPUC defines it as
50-70% of average use. No consideration is made for the size of your
home, either. What this means is that any sort of extras (a fish tank,
second fridge) are billed at ridiculous rates. Unseasonably hot
summers can be a real hardship if you're inland."

Need more? You poor stupid fat ****. You only make yourself look a
bigger fool with each post.

Gunner


Cutting and pasting rates does absolutely nothing to demonstrate that
you have the knowledge of an electrician. Neither does it explains
your brain-dead story about a small amount of welding costing $150 a
month. An electrician would know better. Your place is a ******** and
there's no good reason that you couldn't stay in the lower tiers.
Those rates aren't very high, and haven't changed much in a long time.
Of course there are lots of not so good reasons an idiot could have a
high bill.

Care to try again, or will you, 1. exactly as I predicted, just keep
blabbering irrelevant nonsense. Or 2. Run away.


Come now. He doesn't "run away" he has this big time career in Los
Angeles. My goodness he even posted (Boasted?) about having the
astonishing sum of $10,000 in the bank once, I gathered that was a
once in a lifetime event.


Yeah, $10,000 must have seemed like a massive number worth lying
about. If he had a brain he'd know how fabulously stupid and
self-busting it is to brag about having money, when he's addressing
the same audience that knows about his history of failing to pay
debts.

Gunner Asch[_6_] March 22nd 16 05:27 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:10:05 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:57:12 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:59:30 -0700,
wrote:


Amazing Whoyakidding prediction: "electrician" Wieber will slobber
endlessly without ever writing anything close to a credible
explanation.

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/util...-electric.html

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r278...sometimes-more

"Not in CA. The CPUC basically allows CA utilities to rape their
customers. They justify this by saying it's "to encourage
conservation". PG&E's rate structure looks very similar to what we
have with SoCal Edison:

Total Energy Rates ($ per kWh)

Baseline Usage: $0.13230 (I)
101% - 130% of Baseline: $0.15040 (I)
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.30025 (I)
201% - 300% of Baseline Over $0.34025 (I)
300% of Baseline: $0.34025 (I)

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf

"Baseline", by the way, is not average usage. The CPUC defines it as
50-70% of average use. No consideration is made for the size of your
home, either. What this means is that any sort of extras (a fish tank,
second fridge) are billed at ridiculous rates. Unseasonably hot
summers can be a real hardship if you're inland."

Need more? You poor stupid fat ****. You only make yourself look a
bigger fool with each post.

Gunner

Cutting and pasting rates does absolutely nothing to demonstrate that
you have the knowledge of an electrician. Neither does it explains
your brain-dead story about a small amount of welding costing $150 a
month. An electrician would know better. Your place is a ******** and
there's no good reason that you couldn't stay in the lower tiers.
Those rates aren't very high, and haven't changed much in a long time.
Of course there are lots of not so good reasons an idiot could have a
high bill.


Denying and trying to foist your prejudiced and rancid hate on me
simply makes me laugh at you. Its obvious you haven't a clue how to
read the rate tiers and have zero comprehension of the ramifications.
I did give you the chance, when I posted the links to the Consumer
Affairs site with the long listing of letters from other people.

Your hate and bias and bigotry has once again...proven you to be a
total wackjob. But we already knew that..its been obvious for a very
long time.

Care to try again, or will you, 1. exactly as I predicted, just keep
blabbering irrelevant nonsense. Or 2. Run away.


You mean put you in the Bozo bin? Nah...not for a while yet. Having
you show who and what you actually are..is priceless.


What a shock that you have not and will not be writing anything but
bluster to defend your claim of having been an electrician. Who do you
think you're fooling?


See previous post. $100 per data point.

Gunner

Gunner Asch[_6_] March 22nd 16 05:27 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:11:08 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:51:13 +0700,

wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:59:30 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 10:53:06 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 09:33:13 -0700,
wrote:


Does this sound like it was written by a licensed electrician?

"My normal monthly electric bill is $150 or so (**** you Gray
Davis!!!!) and it seems that the minute I turn a welder on..it goes to
$300 a month."
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!or...0/cnKowXsaCeMJ

Odd...that was quit factual. And in fact..its gotten worse.

Well then Mr. Electrician. Show us the math that proves a welder uses
$150 per month in electricity " the minute you turn it on."

Amazing Whoyakidding prediction: "electrician" Wieber will slobber
endlessly without ever writing anything close to a credible
explanation.

https://www.consumeraffairs.com/util...-electric.html

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r278...sometimes-more

"Not in CA. The CPUC basically allows CA utilities to rape their
customers. They justify this by saying it's "to encourage
conservation". PG&E's rate structure looks very similar to what we
have with SoCal Edison:

Total Energy Rates ($ per kWh)

Baseline Usage: $0.13230 (I)
101% - 130% of Baseline: $0.15040 (I)
131% - 200% of Baseline $0.30025 (I)
201% - 300% of Baseline Over $0.34025 (I)
300% of Baseline: $0.34025 (I)

http://www.pge.com/tariffs/tm2/pdf/ELEC_SCHEDS_E-1.pdf

"Baseline", by the way, is not average usage. The CPUC defines it as
50-70% of average use. No consideration is made for the size of your
home, either. What this means is that any sort of extras (a fish tank,
second fridge) are billed at ridiculous rates. Unseasonably hot
summers can be a real hardship if you're inland."

Need more? You poor stupid fat ****. You only make yourself look a
bigger fool with each post.

Gunner

Cutting and pasting rates does absolutely nothing to demonstrate that
you have the knowledge of an electrician. Neither does it explains
your brain-dead story about a small amount of welding costing $150 a
month. An electrician would know better. Your place is a ******** and
there's no good reason that you couldn't stay in the lower tiers.
Those rates aren't very high, and haven't changed much in a long time.
Of course there are lots of not so good reasons an idiot could have a
high bill.

Care to try again, or will you, 1. exactly as I predicted, just keep
blabbering irrelevant nonsense. Or 2. Run away.


Come now. He doesn't "run away" he has this big time career in Los
Angeles. My goodness he even posted (Boasted?) about having the
astonishing sum of $10,000 in the bank once, I gathered that was a
once in a lifetime event.


Yeah, $10,000 must have seemed like a massive number worth lying
about. If he had a brain he'd know how fabulously stupid and
self-busting it is to brag about having money, when he's addressing
the same audience that knows about his history of failing to pay
debts.


Bragging? Where?

[email protected] March 22nd 16 06:15 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:26:29 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:09:39 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 19:18:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:


That was nothing. I had $250k in the bank once.


Bwahahahaha! At what point in your lien history
http://tinyurl.com/d7hkkp are you claiming you had a quarter million?

When my mothers life insurance settled. Dad got half, my sister and I
split the other half.


Oh brother! Which year? Be careful now, you'll have to make this new
story fit in with
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....ecb1feee7c3603 ,
the endless tale of woe which covers the years '76 to 2000, and for
some strange reason fails to mention a $250k windfall!

Look, nobody believes the $10k claim because it doesn't make any
sense. So what is the point of ramping it up by 25X?


Because it was true.


Newsflash: Repeating the lie doesn't help you.

Tsk tsk tsk...you really are a buffoon arnt you?


Then my kid
discovered the joys of meth. I didnt have any money by the time I got
him cleaned up. Shrug. He has been clean and sober for 18 yrs
now...is a father with 3 kids (love my grand kids). Shrug again.


Every one of your stories has a different spin. Here's how you
described him previously: "Son moves out with his fat, ugly internet
girl friend, to a town 80 miles away. No money, no job.. but one step
ahead of the bills."
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....ecb1feee7c3603
You've written that they were on social assistance. Dollars to donuts
they still are. I say that because he has his own lien list, and you
bloody well know all about it and much more. Sounds like a chip off
the old block!


Different spin? Oh..you mean you are trying desperately to pick holes
in the story, which spans nearly 40 yrs. My son turned 39 in
December. He is on social security btw. Brain burned. Psych issues.


The kid was doomed. Handicapped by both nature and nurture. The main
thing we know for sure is that sometimes you blame him for being lazy
and other times you excuse him as helpless.

Much like you in fact. And yeah..they are on social assistance. He
obviously cant work. Again..much like you. Did you do meth too? Or
were you simply a life long drunk?


Because I cant afford an apartment like I used to.


No, you didn't have an apartment. It was a 20' travel trailer as you
described in the link above. "I spend my nights during the week in 20'
travel trailer" Now you spend most nights in your truck, which is a
step down.


Yes and? Apartment/travel trailer/squat. Its all the same.


No, it isn't. Travel trailer living is done by people who can't afford
apartments. You called it an apartment to make it sound better than it
was, fooling no one.

Cost me
less to put the travel trailer in an RV park than it did to get an
"apartment"..but not by much. And?

I closed it down in
2011. Geeze dude..are you really that slow? Or is it simply rampant
stupidity in your family that causes you to post really dumb **** like
that?


The only "dumb ****" here is the new lies you're writing to defend
against the old ones. When will you learn that it doesn't work?


What lies would those be?


Now, are you going to try any more defense of your claim of having
been a licensed electrician, or will you run away as usual?


Defense? Whatever for?


To salvage your honor.

It was true.


Nope.

Call the State and ask.


Your lie, your job to save face. Besides, you have a history of
blaming the records whenever they bust your tall tales.

Last recorded position of RME (responsible managing employee) was:


snipped self-serving exaggerated resume nonsense

Ive supplied my work history several times in my posts


So what? Absolutely nothing you provide has any credibility. And
that's entirely your own fault.

...if you were
paying attention and doing more than listening to yourself bray...you
could have done a full background check on me and (surprisingly) found
yourself to be a bloody fool and an idiot. Which we all found out
simply from reading your postings long before now.


LOL Most of the background info required to prove you're a bull****
artist is contained in the archives.

Now..what is it you would like to know?


"Well then Mr. Electrician. Show us the math that proves a welder uses
$150 per month in electricity " the minute you turn it on."

Amazing Whoyakidding prediction: "electrician" Wieber will slobber
endlessly without ever writing anything close to a credible
explanation."

Same question you can't answer. Same easy prediction continuing to
come true.

[email protected] March 22nd 16 06:17 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:27:08 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:10:05 -0700, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:57:12 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:


What a shock that you have not and will not be writing anything but
bluster to defend your claim of having been an electrician. Who do you
think you're fooling?


See previous post. $100 per data point.


OMFG that's funny! The newest Wieber tactic! Unlimited lying: free.
Proof that he isn't lying: priceless What, no free samples? Just
when I thought you couldn't get any more ridiculous.

Gunner Asch[_6_] March 22nd 16 09:38 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:17:10 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:27:08 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:10:05 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:57:12 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:


What a shock that you have not and will not be writing anything but
bluster to defend your claim of having been an electrician. Who do you
think you're fooling?


See previous post. $100 per data point.


OMFG that's funny! The newest Wieber tactic! Unlimited lying: free.
Proof that he isn't lying: priceless What, no free samples? Just
when I thought you couldn't get any more ridiculous.


You didnt like the free samples...so it they were worthless..putting a
price on them must make them more valid...right?

(VBG)

Gunner

[email protected] March 22nd 16 11:07 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:37:44 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:15:51 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:26:29 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:09:39 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 19:18:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:


That was nothing. I had $250k in the bank once.

Bwahahahaha! At what point in your lien history
http://tinyurl.com/d7hkkp are you claiming you had a quarter million?

When my mothers life insurance settled. Dad got half, my sister and I
split the other half.


Oh brother! Which year? Be careful now, you'll have to make this new
story fit in with
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....ecb1feee7c3603 ,
the endless tale of woe which covers the years '76 to 2000, and for
some strange reason fails to mention a $250k windfall!


Yes and?


.... and as I expected, there's no way for you to fit a $250k windfall
story into the timeline of your previous tales. So you post more
non-responsive bluster.


The kid was doomed. Handicapped by both nature and nurture. The main
thing we know for sure is that sometimes you blame him for being lazy
and other times you excuse him as helpless.


He is both. Mostly helpless now. Good enough dad..but for anything
other than that...utterly helpless. Glad to see his kids are gonna be
smart as hell. The middle boy has ADHD..but its mild and is responding
well. The youngest...gonna be a freaking rocket scientist. 3 and
reading books already...geeze.


What? No 264mph tricycle ride? Oh well, give them time.

No, you didn't have an apartment. It was a 20' travel trailer as you
described in the link above. "I spend my nights during the week in 20'
travel trailer" Now you spend most nights in your truck, which is a
step down.

Yes and? Apartment/travel trailer/squat. Its all the same.


No, it isn't. Travel trailer living is done by people who can't afford
apartments. You called it an apartment to make it sound better than it
was, fooling no one.


Cant afford or chose not to pay through the nose for a squat that I
only lived in 3-4 nights a week?


It wasn't a choice. If you could have afforded better than you
wouldn't be letting a few hundred in taxes go to lien every year
except two IIRC, for the last TWENTY years!

When I have a nice home


No, it's not nice at all. It's a dump. It could be a lot better than
it is, but you're too busy here to make the best of it.

, why should
I have spent more money than my mortgage payments for a place to sleep
while in So. Cal? Doing otherwise..would have been stupid as hell. I
lived in that place for 14 yrs. I donated it to a charity in 2011 as I
chose not to pay the RV park rent. $300 a month went to the house
needs. You have a problem with people doing the best they can with
their money..using it wisely..dont you?


Nope, I'm fine with people doing the best they can. But that doesn't
describe you in any way, shape or form. You don't work much, never
have, and you waste your life making up stories and defending them as
you're doing right now. The topper is your disdain for "leeches" at
the same time you and yours are leeching up a storm. Hundreds of
thousands in free health care alone!

Some jealousy there


Classic Wieber! Can't remember declaring that I made a poor decision
by buying a new car, and now says I must be jealous of his old crap!

Now..what is it you would like to know?


"Well then Mr. Electrician. Show us the math that proves a welder uses
$150 per month in electricity " the minute you turn it on."


Still have that pesky problem with the term "seems"?


Ok then, show us some of that electrician math to explain how it
"seemed" that a little bit of welding cost $150 a month. You can't.
Your problem with these tall tales is that it takes at least a little
bit of knowledge to say something credible. You don't have that
knowledge, which makes it dead obvious you were never an electrician.

As I said, the most incompetent liar on Usenet.

[email protected] March 22nd 16 11:08 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:38:53 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:17:10 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:27:08 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:10:05 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:57:12 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:


What a shock that you have not and will not be writing anything but
bluster to defend your claim of having been an electrician. Who do you
think you're fooling?

See previous post. $100 per data point.


OMFG that's funny! The newest Wieber tactic! Unlimited lying: free.
Proof that he isn't lying: priceless What, no free samples? Just
when I thought you couldn't get any more ridiculous.


You didnt like the free samples...so it they were worthless..putting a
price on them must make them more valid...right?


No, it's pointless to put a price on something that everyone knows
only exists in your fantasy world. But it's the kind of silly thing
that desperate people do when they have nothing credible to offer.

As usual, you will spend hours making excuses for why you can't do
something that would only take a few minutes. The legendary stack of
Wieber Inc. $75 and hour plus traveling costs invoices is obviously
stored in the same place as the cull list, the electrician's license,
the DD214, the lien payment receipts, the ranch acreage ownership
records, the PE paperwork, all the summins, etc.

Gunner Asch[_6_] March 23rd 16 04:36 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:07:34 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:37:44 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:15:51 -0700,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:26:29 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:09:39 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 19:18:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

That was nothing. I had $250k in the bank once.

Bwahahahaha! At what point in your lien history
http://tinyurl.com/d7hkkp are you claiming you had a quarter million?

When my mothers life insurance settled. Dad got half, my sister and I
split the other half.

Oh brother! Which year? Be careful now, you'll have to make this new
story fit in with
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....ecb1feee7c3603 ,
the endless tale of woe which covers the years '76 to 2000, and for
some strange reason fails to mention a $250k windfall!


Yes and?


... and as I expected, there's no way for you to fit a $250k windfall
story into the timeline of your previous tales. So you post more
non-responsive bluster.


The kid was doomed. Handicapped by both nature and nurture. The main
thing we know for sure is that sometimes you blame him for being lazy
and other times you excuse him as helpless.


He is both. Mostly helpless now. Good enough dad..but for anything
other than that...utterly helpless. Glad to see his kids are gonna be
smart as hell. The middle boy has ADHD..but its mild and is responding
well. The youngest...gonna be a freaking rocket scientist. 3 and
reading books already...geeze.


What? No 264mph tricycle ride? Oh well, give them time.

No, you didn't have an apartment. It was a 20' travel trailer as you
described in the link above. "I spend my nights during the week in 20'
travel trailer" Now you spend most nights in your truck, which is a
step down.

Yes and? Apartment/travel trailer/squat. Its all the same.

No, it isn't. Travel trailer living is done by people who can't afford
apartments. You called it an apartment to make it sound better than it
was, fooling no one.


Cant afford or chose not to pay through the nose for a squat that I
only lived in 3-4 nights a week?


It wasn't a choice. If you could have afforded better than you
wouldn't be letting a few hundred in taxes go to lien every year
except two IIRC, for the last TWENTY years!

When I have a nice home


No, it's not nice at all. It's a dump. It could be a lot better than
it is, but you're too busy here to make the best of it.

, why should
I have spent more money than my mortgage payments for a place to sleep
while in So. Cal? Doing otherwise..would have been stupid as hell. I
lived in that place for 14 yrs. I donated it to a charity in 2011 as I
chose not to pay the RV park rent. $300 a month went to the house
needs. You have a problem with people doing the best they can with
their money..using it wisely..dont you?


Nope, I'm fine with people doing the best they can. But that doesn't
describe you in any way, shape or form. You don't work much, never
have, and you waste your life making up stories and defending them as
you're doing right now. The topper is your disdain for "leeches" at
the same time you and yours are leeching up a storm. Hundreds of
thousands in free health care alone!

Some jealousy there


Classic Wieber! Can't remember declaring that I made a poor decision
by buying a new car, and now says I must be jealous of his old crap!

Now..what is it you would like to know?

"Well then Mr. Electrician. Show us the math that proves a welder uses
$150 per month in electricity " the minute you turn it on."


Still have that pesky problem with the term "seems"?


Ok then, show us some of that electrician math to explain how it
"seemed" that a little bit of welding cost $150 a month. You can't.
Your problem with these tall tales is that it takes at least a little
bit of knowledge to say something credible. You don't have that
knowledge, which makes it dead obvious you were never an electrician.

As I said, the most incompetent liar on Usenet.


(VBG)

Gunner

Gunner Asch[_6_] March 23rd 16 04:37 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:08:57 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:38:53 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:17:10 -0700,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:27:08 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:10:05 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:57:12 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

What a shock that you have not and will not be writing anything but
bluster to defend your claim of having been an electrician. Who do you
think you're fooling?

See previous post. $100 per data point.

OMFG that's funny! The newest Wieber tactic! Unlimited lying: free.
Proof that he isn't lying: priceless What, no free samples? Just
when I thought you couldn't get any more ridiculous.


You didnt like the free samples...so it they were worthless..putting a
price on them must make them more valid...right?


No, it's pointless to put a price on something that everyone knows
only exists in your fantasy world. But it's the kind of silly thing
that desperate people do when they have nothing credible to offer.

As usual, you will spend hours making excuses for why you can't do
something that would only take a few minutes. The legendary stack of
Wieber Inc. $75 and hour plus traveling costs invoices is obviously
stored in the same place as the cull list, the electrician's license,
the DD214, the lien payment receipts, the ranch acreage ownership
records, the PE paperwork, all the summins, etc.


So you dont have $100?

Gunner

Gunner Asch[_6_] March 23rd 16 04:38 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:08:57 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:38:53 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:17:10 -0700,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:27:08 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:10:05 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:57:12 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

What a shock that you have not and will not be writing anything but
bluster to defend your claim of having been an electrician. Who do you
think you're fooling?

See previous post. $100 per data point.

OMFG that's funny! The newest Wieber tactic! Unlimited lying: free.
Proof that he isn't lying: priceless What, no free samples? Just
when I thought you couldn't get any more ridiculous.


You didnt like the free samples...so it they were worthless..putting a
price on them must make them more valid...right?


No, it's pointless to put a price on something that everyone knows
only exists in your fantasy world. But it's the kind of silly thing
that desperate people do when they have nothing credible to offer.

As usual, you will spend hours making excuses for why you can't do
something that would only take a few minutes. The legendary stack of
Wieber Inc. $75 and hour plus traveling costs invoices is obviously
stored in the same place as the cull list, the electrician's license,
the DD214, the lien payment receipts, the ranch acreage ownership
records, the PE paperwork, all the summins, etc.


(VBG)

[email protected] March 23rd 16 03:09 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 20:37:09 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:08:57 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:38:53 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:17:10 -0700,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:27:08 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:10:05 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:57:12 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

What a shock that you have not and will not be writing anything but
bluster to defend your claim of having been an electrician. Who do you
think you're fooling?

See previous post. $100 per data point.

OMFG that's funny! The newest Wieber tactic! Unlimited lying: free.
Proof that he isn't lying: priceless What, no free samples? Just
when I thought you couldn't get any more ridiculous.

You didnt like the free samples...so it they were worthless..putting a
price on them must make them more valid...right?


No, it's pointless to put a price on something that everyone knows
only exists in your fantasy world. But it's the kind of silly thing
that desperate people do when they have nothing credible to offer.

As usual, you will spend hours making excuses for why you can't do
something that would only take a few minutes. The legendary stack of
Wieber Inc. $75 and hour plus traveling costs invoices is obviously
stored in the same place as the cull list, the electrician's license,
the DD214, the lien payment receipts, the ranch acreage ownership
records, the PE paperwork, all the summins, etc.


So you dont have $100?


How many years have you been claiming a high IQ at the same time
you're showing off the logical chops of a five year old?

[email protected] March 23rd 16 03:12 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 20:38:56 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:08:57 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:38:53 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:17:10 -0700,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:27:08 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:10:05 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:57:12 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

What a shock that you have not and will not be writing anything but
bluster to defend your claim of having been an electrician. Who do you
think you're fooling?

See previous post. $100 per data point.

OMFG that's funny! The newest Wieber tactic! Unlimited lying: free.
Proof that he isn't lying: priceless What, no free samples? Just
when I thought you couldn't get any more ridiculous.

You didnt like the free samples...so it they were worthless..putting a
price on them must make them more valid...right?


No, it's pointless to put a price on something that everyone knows
only exists in your fantasy world. But it's the kind of silly thing
that desperate people do when they have nothing credible to offer.

As usual, you will spend hours making excuses for why you can't do
something that would only take a few minutes. The legendary stack of
Wieber Inc. $75 and hour plus traveling costs invoices is obviously
stored in the same place as the cull list, the electrician's license,
the DD214, the lien payment receipts, the ranch acreage ownership
records, the PE paperwork, all the summins, etc.


(VBG)


Ah yes, the all purpose VBG. The weapon of choice of every "genius"
who's already run through his entire complement of grade school
taunts.

[email protected] March 23rd 16 03:32 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 20:36:30 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:07:34 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:37:44 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:15:51 -0700,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:26:29 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:09:39 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 19:18:43 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

That was nothing. I had $250k in the bank once.

Bwahahahaha! At what point in your lien history
http://tinyurl.com/d7hkkp are you claiming you had a quarter million?

When my mothers life insurance settled. Dad got half, my sister and I
split the other half.

Oh brother! Which year? Be careful now, you'll have to make this new
story fit in with
http://groups.google.com/group/misc....ecb1feee7c3603 ,
the endless tale of woe which covers the years '76 to 2000, and for
some strange reason fails to mention a $250k windfall!

Yes and?


... and as I expected, there's no way for you to fit a $250k windfall
story into the timeline of your previous tales. So you post more
non-responsive bluster.


The kid was doomed. Handicapped by both nature and nurture. The main
thing we know for sure is that sometimes you blame him for being lazy
and other times you excuse him as helpless.

He is both. Mostly helpless now. Good enough dad..but for anything
other than that...utterly helpless. Glad to see his kids are gonna be
smart as hell. The middle boy has ADHD..but its mild and is responding
well. The youngest...gonna be a freaking rocket scientist. 3 and
reading books already...geeze.


What? No 264mph tricycle ride? Oh well, give them time.

No, you didn't have an apartment. It was a 20' travel trailer as you
described in the link above. "I spend my nights during the week in 20'
travel trailer" Now you spend most nights in your truck, which is a
step down.

Yes and? Apartment/travel trailer/squat. Its all the same.

No, it isn't. Travel trailer living is done by people who can't afford
apartments. You called it an apartment to make it sound better than it
was, fooling no one.

Cant afford or chose not to pay through the nose for a squat that I
only lived in 3-4 nights a week?


It wasn't a choice. If you could have afforded better than you
wouldn't be letting a few hundred in taxes go to lien every year
except two IIRC, for the last TWENTY years!

When I have a nice home


No, it's not nice at all. It's a dump. It could be a lot better than
it is, but you're too busy here to make the best of it.

, why should
I have spent more money than my mortgage payments for a place to sleep
while in So. Cal? Doing otherwise..would have been stupid as hell. I
lived in that place for 14 yrs. I donated it to a charity in 2011 as I
chose not to pay the RV park rent. $300 a month went to the house
needs. You have a problem with people doing the best they can with
their money..using it wisely..dont you?


Nope, I'm fine with people doing the best they can. But that doesn't
describe you in any way, shape or form. You don't work much, never
have, and you waste your life making up stories and defending them as
you're doing right now. The topper is your disdain for "leeches" at
the same time you and yours are leeching up a storm. Hundreds of
thousands in free health care alone!

Some jealousy there


Classic Wieber! Can't remember declaring that I made a poor decision
by buying a new car, and now says I must be jealous of his old crap!

Now..what is it you would like to know?

"Well then Mr. Electrician. Show us the math that proves a welder uses
$150 per month in electricity " the minute you turn it on."

Still have that pesky problem with the term "seems"?


Ok then, show us some of that electrician math to explain how it
"seemed" that a little bit of welding cost $150 a month. You can't.
Your problem with these tall tales is that it takes at least a little
bit of knowledge to say something credible. You don't have that
knowledge, which makes it dead obvious you were never an electrician.

As I said, the most incompetent liar on Usenet.


(VBG)


Wow, what a comeback! Yet another VBG, hallmark of all genius-level
electricians who used to have $250,000! When was that again? Oh right,
you can't say. Because details like this one "My ol lady likes to get
****ed in the ass now and then"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!or...k/efoWSco6pb8J
are fine to make public, but stories about being gifted huge sums must
remain private! Except when they fall out of your mouth like unruly
drool. Slurp it back in and pretend it never happened, right Wieber?
LOL

Michael A. Terrell March 23rd 16 08:49 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 

Jim Wilkins wrote:

https://www.nrdc.org/energy/files/bi...r_r3_final.pdf
"For example, hang-drying clothes in the summer
instead of using a drying machine will save 35 MMtCO2e."

They dry just fine outdoors in the winter too, because the humidity is
very low. Insulated clothing that doesn't dry in a day can then be
hung indoors to dewrinkle and help raise the humidity to healthier
levels.



maybe where you live, but not in the deep south where they can rot,
and are still damp.

Michael A. Terrell March 23rd 16 09:00 PM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 

Jim Wilkins wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 09 Mar 2016 07:21:10 -0600, Ignoramus1161
wrote:

I have a question.

If global warming is fake, how come those glaciers are shrinking?
And
so does the Arctic ice?


Questions here, too. If Algore is an environmentalist, why was he
spending over $30,000 a year to heat and cool his home? And if his
movie was realistic, why did the Brits ban it from showing in UK
schools? And if polar bears were drowning, why didn't they just move
with the ice? ;) P.S: Algore finally admitted that was entirely
CGI
and that he made up the polar bear story. Then again, I just saw
another picture of a dead polar bear captioned on yet another AGWK
story recently. sigh They just don't get it.

Now, your answer:

Check the rest of the Earth. When one area loses ice, ice builds in
another area. It happens the same way each year with the seasons,
but
that's called "weather", which is what people are reacting to.
Earth
is between ice ages and will continue to warm (or remain stable like
the past decade+) until the next ice age.


Also see these books:

_State of Fear_ The excellent fictional book by Michael Crichton
which first led me to question the media and global alarmists.

_The Skeptical Environmentalist_
Bjorn Lomborg (formerly of Greenpeace)

_The Politically Incorrect Guide to Global Warming and
Environmentalism_
Chris Horner

_Terrestrial Energy_
William Tucker

_Meltdown: The Predictable Distortion of Global Warming by
Scientists,
Politicians, and the Media_
Patrick J. Michaels

_Hard Green: Saving the Environment from Environmentalists_
by Peter Huber

_Unstoppable Global Warming, Every 1500 Years_
Patrick J. Michaels

_The Greatest Hoax: How the Global Warming Conspiracy Threatens Your
Future_
Senator James Inhofe

_The Deliberate Corruption of Climate Science_
Tim Ball

_Climate of Corruption: Politics and Power Behind The Global Warming
Hoax_
Larry Bell


http://joannenova.com.au/


http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/jamesdelingpole/100211031/margaret-thatcher-godmother-of-global-warming/

[email protected] March 24th 16 01:26 AM

No Gorbal warming...in...58 yrs....
 
On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 20:37:09 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 15:08:57 -0700, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 13:38:53 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 10:17:10 -0700,
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 09:27:08 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2016 08:10:05 -0700,
wrote:

On Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:57:12 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

What a shock that you have not and will not be writing anything but
bluster to defend your claim of having been an electrician. Who do you
think you're fooling?

See previous post. $100 per data point.

OMFG that's funny! The newest Wieber tactic! Unlimited lying: free.
Proof that he isn't lying: priceless What, no free samples? Just
when I thought you couldn't get any more ridiculous.

You didnt like the free samples...so it they were worthless..putting a
price on them must make them more valid...right?


No, it's pointless to put a price on something that everyone knows
only exists in your fantasy world. But it's the kind of silly thing
that desperate people do when they have nothing credible to offer.

As usual, you will spend hours making excuses for why you can't do
something that would only take a few minutes. The legendary stack of
Wieber Inc. $75 and hour plus traveling costs invoices is obviously
stored in the same place as the cull list, the electrician's license,
the DD214, the lien payment receipts, the ranch acreage ownership
records, the PE paperwork, all the summins, etc.


So you dont have $100?

Gunner



Goodness, and now you want to get paid $100 every time you tell a lie?
--
Cheers,

Schweik


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