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Crankcase repairs
Here are some photos of repairing the hole in my tractor crankcase . Welds
looked kinda ****ty , but this is a piece of aluminum that's been soaking in oil for over 30 years . I'm happy enough with it that I'm going to send the one I bought* back and use this one . http://s991.photobucket.com/user/Sna...?sort=3&page=1 -- Snag * They used a power disk sander to remove the gaskets and sealant from the precision machined sealing surfaces ... |
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 13:13:51 -0500
"Terry Coombs" wrote: Here are some photos of repairing the hole in my tractor crankcase . Welds looked kinda ****ty , but this is a piece of aluminum that's been soaking in oil for over 30 years . I'm happy enough with it that I'm going to send the one I bought* back and use this one . http://s991.photobucket.com/user/Sna...?sort=3&page=1 Looks pretty good to me, considering what you have to work with. A whole lot better than the mess I made welding the broken cargo rack for the back of my motorcycle. In hindsight, I should have dug out my MIG machine and skipped trying to do it with stick. Heck, that's how I fabbed it originally many years ago. My stick welding skills just aren't up-to-snuff for fussy work like that. Sigh... What a raw deal on the replacement crankcase. I find it hard to believe someone would think that was a suitable way to clean up a gasket surface. Sad thing is it will probably be sold again, till someone gets it that either doesn't care or doesn't know the difference... -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 13:13:51 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: Here are some photos of repairing the hole in my tractor crankcase . Welds looked kinda ****ty , but this is a piece of aluminum that's been soaking in oil for over 30 years . I'm happy enough with it that I'm going to send the one I bought* back and use this one . http://s991.photobucket.com/user/Sna...?sort=3&page=1 Nicely done! Good matching of the plug as well as the scarf. If you do much of this..Id strongly suggest you find a small bead blaster, regular sand will work...to clean up the area around the weldment. Clean it up well and it prevent that porosity as the area will be squeeky clean and fresh metal. TIG I expect and you did preheat well with a torch, right? Nice job! Gunner |
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 13:13:51 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Here are some photos of repairing the hole in my tractor crankcase . Welds looked kinda ****ty , but this is a piece of aluminum that's been soaking in oil for over 30 years . I'm happy enough with it that I'm going to send the one I bought* back and use this one . http://s991.photobucket.com/user/Sna...?sort=3&page=1 Nicely done! Good matching of the plug as well as the scarf. If you do much of this..Id strongly suggest you find a small bead blaster, regular sand will work...to clean up the area around the weldment. Clean it up well and it prevent that porosity as the area will be squeeky clean and fresh metal. TIG I expect and you did preheat well with a torch, right? Nice job! Gunner Thanks ! It was still warm from the oven and yes I used TIG . I baked it at 350 for a while - after 2 cycles of scrub with gasoline then with detergent .. I fitted the patch with about .003 clearance to help avoid weld shrinkage causing warpage . I do have a small sand blaster setup , I never considered using it to minimize porosity . I wasn't sure this was going to work , I don't usually do well with oil-soaked aluminum . I did take more care to clean up the piece this time . -- Snag |
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:37:59 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 13:13:51 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Here are some photos of repairing the hole in my tractor crankcase . Welds looked kinda ****ty , but this is a piece of aluminum that's been soaking in oil for over 30 years . I'm happy enough with it that I'm going to send the one I bought* back and use this one . http://s991.photobucket.com/user/Sna...?sort=3&page=1 Nicely done! Good matching of the plug as well as the scarf. If you do much of this..Id strongly suggest you find a small bead blaster, regular sand will work...to clean up the area around the weldment. Clean it up well and it prevent that porosity as the area will be squeeky clean and fresh metal. TIG I expect and you did preheat well with a torch, right? Nice job! Gunner Thanks ! It was still warm from the oven and yes I used TIG . I baked it at 350 for a while - after 2 cycles of scrub with gasoline then with detergent . I fitted the patch with about .003 clearance to help avoid weld shrinkage causing warpage . I do have a small sand blaster setup , I never considered using it to minimize porosity . I wasn't sure this was going to work , I don't usually do well with oil-soaked aluminum . I did take more care to clean up the piece this time . As you of course know...clean aluminum is what you are needing before you ever strike an arc. So blasting the area around the weldment will take off all the scum, the oil and the trash. Blast it..take it directly to the bench and heat it up. You did a pretty fair job with what you had to work with. Kudos. Better next time...its all a learning experience. Gunner |
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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:37:59 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 13:13:51 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Here are some photos of repairing the hole in my tractor crankcase . Welds looked kinda ****ty , but this is a piece of aluminum that's been soaking in oil for over 30 years . I'm happy enough with it that I'm going to send the one I bought* back and use this one . http://s991.photobucket.com/user/Sna...?sort=3&page=1 Nicely done! Good matching of the plug as well as the scarf. If you do much of this..Id strongly suggest you find a small bead blaster, regular sand will work...to clean up the area around the weldment. Clean it up well and it prevent that porosity as the area will be squeeky clean and fresh metal. TIG I expect and you did preheat well with a torch, right? Nice job! Gunner Thanks ! It was still warm from the oven and yes I used TIG . I baked it at 350 for a while - after 2 cycles of scrub with gasoline then with detergent . I fitted the patch with about .003 clearance to help avoid weld shrinkage causing warpage . I do have a small sand blaster setup , I never considered using it to minimize porosity . I wasn't sure this was going to work , I don't usually do well with oil-soaked aluminum . I did take more care to clean up the piece this time . As you of course know...clean aluminum is what you are needing before you ever strike an arc. So blasting the area around the weldment will take off all the scum, the oil and the trash. Blast it..take it directly to the bench and heat it up. You did a pretty fair job with what you had to work with. Kudos. Better next time...its all a learning experience. Gunner That case was scrubbed 4 times , gas/detergent/clean gas/detergent , then baked in the oven at 350 for about 45 minutes . Now if I had a vapor degreaser ... I knew there was going to be carbon contamination floating up out of the welds , just a question of whether I'd have to grind it out and re-do . And how many times . That was the first try , looked better than any I've done in the past and so I said to myself "Self , you better quit while you're ahead." . So I did . -- Snag |
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 16:50:02 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:37:59 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 13:13:51 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Here are some photos of repairing the hole in my tractor crankcase . Welds looked kinda ****ty , but this is a piece of aluminum that's been soaking in oil for over 30 years . I'm happy enough with it that I'm going to send the one I bought* back and use this one . http://s991.photobucket.com/user/Sna...?sort=3&page=1 Nicely done! Good matching of the plug as well as the scarf. If you do much of this..Id strongly suggest you find a small bead blaster, regular sand will work...to clean up the area around the weldment. Clean it up well and it prevent that porosity as the area will be squeeky clean and fresh metal. TIG I expect and you did preheat well with a torch, right? Nice job! Gunner Thanks ! It was still warm from the oven and yes I used TIG . I baked it at 350 for a while - after 2 cycles of scrub with gasoline then with detergent . I fitted the patch with about .003 clearance to help avoid weld shrinkage causing warpage . I do have a small sand blaster setup , I never considered using it to minimize porosity . I wasn't sure this was going to work , I don't usually do well with oil-soaked aluminum . I did take more care to clean up the piece this time . As you of course know...clean aluminum is what you are needing before you ever strike an arc. So blasting the area around the weldment will take off all the scum, the oil and the trash. Blast it..take it directly to the bench and heat it up. You did a pretty fair job with what you had to work with. Kudos. Better next time...its all a learning experience. Gunner That case was scrubbed 4 times , gas/detergent/clean gas/detergent , then baked in the oven at 350 for about 45 minutes . Now if I had a vapor degreaser ... I knew there was going to be carbon contamination floating up out of the welds , just a question of whether I'd have to grind it out and re-do . And how many times . That was the first try , looked better than any I've done in the past and so I said to myself "Self , you better quit while you're ahead." . So I did . You didn't do an acetone soak? -- The mind is like a parachute. It doesn't work until it's opened. --Frank Zappa |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 16:50:02 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:37:59 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 13:13:51 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Here are some photos of repairing the hole in my tractor crankcase . Welds looked kinda ****ty , but this is a piece of aluminum that's been soaking in oil for over 30 years . I'm happy enough with it that I'm going to send the one I bought* back and use this one . http://s991.photobucket.com/user/Sna...?sort=3&page=1 Nicely done! Good matching of the plug as well as the scarf. If you do much of this..Id strongly suggest you find a small bead blaster, regular sand will work...to clean up the area around the weldment. Clean it up well and it prevent that porosity as the area will be squeeky clean and fresh metal. TIG I expect and you did preheat well with a torch, right? Nice job! Gunner Thanks ! It was still warm from the oven and yes I used TIG . I baked it at 350 for a while - after 2 cycles of scrub with gasoline then with detergent . I fitted the patch with about .003 clearance to help avoid weld shrinkage causing warpage . I do have a small sand blaster setup , I never considered using it to minimize porosity . I wasn't sure this was going to work , I don't usually do well with oil-soaked aluminum . I did take more care to clean up the piece this time . As you of course know...clean aluminum is what you are needing before you ever strike an arc. So blasting the area around the weldment will take off all the scum, the oil and the trash. Blast it..take it directly to the bench and heat it up. You did a pretty fair job with what you had to work with. Kudos. Better next time...its all a learning experience. Gunner That case was scrubbed 4 times , gas/detergent/clean gas/detergent , then baked in the oven at 350 for about 45 minutes . Now if I had a vapor degreaser ... I knew there was going to be carbon contamination floating up out of the welds , just a question of whether I'd have to grind it out and re-do . And how many times . That was the first try , looked better than any I've done in the past and so I said to myself "Self , you better quit while you're ahead." . So I did . You didn't do an acetone soak? No ... I was out . I guess that would have gotten a little more oil out of the pores . -- Snag |
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On Sunday, August 30, 2015 at 2:49:59 PM UTC-7, Terry Coombs wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:37:59 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 13:13:51 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Here are some photos of repairing the hole in my tractor crankcase ... a piece of aluminum that's been soaking in oil for over 30 years . That case was scrubbed 4 times , gas/detergent/clean gas/detergent , then baked in the oven at 350 for about 45 minutes . Now if I had a vapor degreaser ... I'd have packed some kitty litter around it while baking in the oven. It makes a good scouring powder for coarse work. Clay type (bentonite?), not the cellulose stuff. |
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On Mon, 31 Aug 2015 23:23:40 -0500, "Terry Coombs"
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 16:50:02 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 15:37:59 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 13:13:51 -0500, "Terry Coombs" wrote: Here are some photos of repairing the hole in my tractor crankcase . Welds looked kinda ****ty , but this is a piece of aluminum that's been soaking in oil for over 30 years . I'm happy enough with it that I'm going to send the one I bought* back and use this one . http://s991.photobucket.com/user/Sna...?sort=3&page=1 Nicely done! Good matching of the plug as well as the scarf. If you do much of this..Id strongly suggest you find a small bead blaster, regular sand will work...to clean up the area around the weldment. Clean it up well and it prevent that porosity as the area will be squeeky clean and fresh metal. TIG I expect and you did preheat well with a torch, right? Nice job! Gunner Thanks ! It was still warm from the oven and yes I used TIG . I baked it at 350 for a while - after 2 cycles of scrub with gasoline then with detergent . I fitted the patch with about .003 clearance to help avoid weld shrinkage causing warpage . I do have a small sand blaster setup , I never considered using it to minimize porosity . I wasn't sure this was going to work , I don't usually do well with oil-soaked aluminum . I did take more care to clean up the piece this time . As you of course know...clean aluminum is what you are needing before you ever strike an arc. So blasting the area around the weldment will take off all the scum, the oil and the trash. Blast it..take it directly to the bench and heat it up. You did a pretty fair job with what you had to work with. Kudos. Better next time...its all a learning experience. Gunner That case was scrubbed 4 times , gas/detergent/clean gas/detergent , then baked in the oven at 350 for about 45 minutes . Now if I had a vapor degreaser ... I knew there was going to be carbon contamination floating up out of the welds , just a question of whether I'd have to grind it out and re-do . And how many times . That was the first try , looked better than any I've done in the past and so I said to myself "Self , you better quit while you're ahead." . So I did . You didn't do an acetone soak? No ... I was out . I guess that would have gotten a little more oil out of the pores . OUT of an important chemical? tsk, tsk, tsk Oh, well. Mebbenextime. -- I hate being bipolar ....... It's awesome! |
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