Can I melt lead?
I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove.
It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? -- posted from http://www.polytechforum.com/metalwo...ad-617123-.htm using PolytechForum's Web, RSS and Social Media Interface to rec.crafts.metalworking and other engineering groups |
Can I melt lead?
On 7/2/2015 8:18 PM, JoshAGS wrote:
I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? OUTSIDE!!! |
Can I melt lead?
On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 20:29:43 -0700, mike wrote:
On 7/2/2015 8:18 PM, JoshAGS wrote: I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? OUTSIDE!!! Please stop scaring the potential Darwin Awardees, mike. Well, at least you didn't tell him not to use a food pan to melt it. ;) -- Another belief of mine: that everyone else my age is an adult, whereas I am merely in disguise. -- Margaret Atwood |
Can I melt lead?
On 7/2/2015 8:18 PM, JoshAGS wrote:
I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? Search: molten + lead + toxic + fumes Results: https://www.google.com/search?q=molt...utf-8&oe=utf-8 Several of the sites contain comments that lead melts at a little over 600 degrees Fahrenheit, and doesn't produce toxic fumes until it boils at 1200F. However, another site that looks much more authoritative says that lead doesn't boil until over 3100F: https://www.conncoll.edu/media/websi...hdocs/Lead.pdf |
Can I melt lead?
On 7/2/2015 9:01 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 20:29:43 -0700, mike wrote: On 7/2/2015 8:18 PM, JoshAGS wrote: I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? OUTSIDE!!! Please stop scaring the potential Darwin Awardees, mike. Well, at least you didn't tell him not to use a food pan to melt it. ;) We used to melt lead fishing weights to add needed weight to our Pinewood Derby cars in Cub Scouts. I think we used an empty "tin" food can - maybe a Campbell's soup can, or perhaps a Starkist tuna can. We did it right on the stove. I am not aware of anyone in my community then suffering any effects of lead poisoning. Seeing this thread and having found a few pages in a search, I think I'd do it outside today. |
Can I melt lead?
mike formulated the question :
On 7/2/2015 8:18 PM, JoshAGS wrote: I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? OUTSIDE!!! 70 years ago no-one worried and we did it all the time to make "tin" soldiers etc. On the kitchen gas stove in jam tin. Got the lead from dead car batteries etc. Do the math and see how dangerous that could not have been. l-) -- John G Sydney. |
Can I melt lead?
On Thursday, July 2, 2015 at 8:18:04 PM UTC-7, JoshAGS wrote:
I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. Negligible fumes from lead at simple melting temperature. If you make dust, that's a problem, which is why smelters have scrubbers on their stacks. 'Fumes' means vapor, you can't survive breathing anything as hot as evaporated lead, even if it weren't toxic. |
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John G on Fri, 03 Jul 2015 15:32:31 +1000 typed in
rec.crafts.metalworking the following: mike formulated the question : On 7/2/2015 8:18 PM, JoshAGS wrote: I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? OUTSIDE!!! 70 years ago no-one worried and we did it all the time to make "tin" soldiers etc. On the kitchen gas stove in jam tin. Got the lead from dead car batteries etc. Do the math and see how dangerous that could not have been. l-) OTOH, my brother managed to strip the wax off the kitchen floor when he spilled a quarter pound of molten lead off the stove. Didn't get a drop on him, but we found lead under the fridge when we moved out. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." |
Can I melt lead?
JoshAGS on Fri, 03
Jul 2015 03:18:01 +0000 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? Depends on who you talk to. Having melted enough lead to fill a pop can on a gas stove - I'd say an ounce is likely to be no problem. Just don't use the good cookware, and wash your hands afterwards. OTOH, there are those who will react as if you were handling molten plutonium, and insist you follow all the EPA/OSHA/Sierra Club regulations as would applied to M. A. Metal Corporation, or Government Motors. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." |
Can I melt lead?
JoshAGS wrote:
I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? I melt lead all the time indoors. I do have a common range vent hood over the bench. Just grab a small iron or stainless ladle toss in the lead and apply low heat. Once it melts fully pour it into your mold. 1 oz. isn't much lead, what is the final use? -- Steve W. |
Can I melt lead?
On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 22:59:41 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote: JoshAGS on Fri, 03 Jul 2015 03:18:01 +0000 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? Depends on who you talk to. Having melted enough lead to fill a pop can on a gas stove - I'd say an ounce is likely to be no problem. Just don't use the good cookware, and wash your hands afterwards. OTOH, there are those who will react as if you were handling molten plutonium, and insist you follow all the EPA/OSHA/Sierra Club regulations as would applied to M. A. Metal Corporation, or Government Motors. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." Many years ago we melted lead ingots outside using a propane burner. Probably get jailed for 20 years now for some environmental crime. We were pouring parts of massive lead shields for gamma ray sensors. -- Best regards, Spehro Pefhany Amazon link for AoE 3rd Edition: http://tinyurl.com/ntrpwu8 Microchip link for 2015 Masters in Phoenix: http://tinyurl.com/l7g2k48 |
Can I melt lead?
On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 11:33:18 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 22:59:41 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote: JoshAGS on Fri, 03 Jul 2015 03:18:01 +0000 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? Depends on who you talk to. Having melted enough lead to fill a pop can on a gas stove - I'd say an ounce is likely to be no problem. Just don't use the good cookware, and wash your hands afterwards. OTOH, there are those who will react as if you were handling molten plutonium, and insist you follow all the EPA/OSHA/Sierra Club regulations as would applied to M. A. Metal Corporation, or Government Motors. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." Many years ago we melted lead ingots outside using a propane burner. Probably get jailed for 20 years now for some environmental crime. We were pouring parts of massive lead shields for gamma ray sensors. When I was about 8 years old one our neighbors was doing some gold panning. I watched him heating what looked like black sand in a stainless pan over a coleman stove out in the driveway. I couldn't figure out how he could melt gold from sand. Even though I was so young I knew metals needed to get red hot to melt and he wasn't getting the pan red hot. I asked my dad about it and he had no idea of what our neighbor was doing. Years later I realized he was probably cooking off the mercury he used to get the gold dust from the sand. Eric |
Can I melt lead?
On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 03:18:01 +0000, JoshAGS wrote:
I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? I wouldn't do it where food is prepared, and I'd make sure to wash my hands afterwards. But as you can see, opinions vary. You can melt an ounce of lead with really simple tools -- I'm not sure that you could do it with a Bic lighter, but I know from experience you can do it with a small alcohol burner. A propane torch, a tin can, and a pair of pliers would certainly be enough to do the deed. Lead toxicity is a cumulative thing. If you're only going to do it once in your life then you could probably roll in lead powder and come out OK. OTOH, if you're working with lead day in and day out then you need to pay attention to toxicity. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com |
Can I melt lead?
On 2015-07-03, JoshAGS wrote:
I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? Have you ever done any electronic/electrical soldering? You are melting an alloy of lead and tin to do that. (Yes, a bit lower temperature than the melting point of pure lead -- or of pure tin -- but considering how much electronics soldering I've done over the years, no worry. Melting pure lead I did as a kid outdoors - because there was no safe place to do it indoors -- from the hazards of spills, not from fumes. You are using a small enough quantity so it is no worry. Just wash your hands after doing this before conveying anything to your mouth. (Again, not really a problem for a single event, but for regular practice, yes.) For that matter -- if you cast bullets, there is an electric pot which will melt lead on your workbench, and squirt it into molds as you lift a lever. Again -- no problem other than wash your hands after using it. Good Luck, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | (KV4PH) Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
Can I melt lead?
replying to JoshAGS, JoshAGS wrote:
JoshAGS wrote: I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? Everyone stop freaking out? I'm only melting an ounce of lead in a small skillet I bought for melting zinc. I'm only going to melt lead once in my life and this is only a small amount. I'm melting it for display so I can put it in my element collection. -- posted from http://www.polytechforum.com/metalwo...ad-617123-.htm using PolytechForum's Web, RSS and Social Media Interface to rec.crafts.metalworking and other engineering groups |
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No problem. Get a pan that you will throw away. And keep the temp
low - just melting it and then some. Borax will do as a flux and keep the fumes down. Keeping it cool - not over heated - will prevent fumes. Hot plates outside is better. Be up wind and don't let it get over heated. It should be done outside on a camp stove or BBQ. I use my furnace when I have pounds of it to melt. Then, it is a alloy of metals for a friend... :-) Martin On 7/2/2015 10:18 PM, JoshAGS wrote: I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? |
Can I melt lead?
On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 22:59:41 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote: JoshAGS on Fri, 03 Jul 2015 03:18:01 +0000 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? Depends on who you talk to. Having melted enough lead to fill a pop can on a gas stove - I'd say an ounce is likely to be no problem. Just don't use the good cookware, and wash your hands afterwards. OTOH, there are those who will react as if you were handling molten plutonium, and insist you follow all the EPA/OSHA/Sierra Club regulations as would applied to M. A. Metal Corporation, or Government Motors. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." IVe cast bullets for aprox 35 yrs. On average when I do a rough melt..turning wheel weights into ingots...I do about 2000 pounds at a time. Ill do that at least once a year...x 35 yrs....70,000 lbs in 35 yrs. I dont eat while doing the rough melt, I do it outside and I try to stay upwind. Now remelting those ingots into bullets...I tend to do that inside, but I have a "range hood" over my casting area and I suck the smoke outside using fans. So Ill remelt that 2000 lbs at least one more time...make that 150,000 lbs of lead melting. Ive had myself tested for lead..and only once in all those years have I showed any elevation whatsoever and it was so small it may have been a glitch in the testing. Oh..and I wash my hands during the bullet casting and then and only then light a cigarette. Im small scale compared to a lot of guys..so melting lead wont make your pecker fall off and it wont turn you into a Democrat. Gunner |
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On 7/3/2015 1:59 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote:
OTOH, my brother managed to strip the wax off the kitchen floor when he spilled a quarter pound of molten lead off the stove. Didn't get a drop on him, but we found lead under the fridge when we moved out. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." My best is having a live primer somehow getting into the boolit reject can then pouring the rejects into the melt pot. I still have lead spots on the ceiling and not a speck got on me. I check everything that goes in the pot very carefully. |
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On 7/3/2015 9:18 PM, JoshAGS wrote:
replying to JoshAGS, JoshAGS wrote: JoshAGS wrote: I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? Everyone stop freaking out? I'm only melting an ounce of lead in a small skillet I bought for melting zinc. I'm only going to melt lead once in my life and this is only a small amount. I'm melting it for display so I can put it in my element collection. You will die no doubt...just not from Lead poisoning. But, it might rip a hole in the space/time continuum and destroy the Universe |
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On 7/2/2015 11:18 PM, JoshAGS wrote:
I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? Lead oxide is the toxic thing to avoid, the white part of the dross that comes from smelting lead. Clean up after and dispose of any waste products responsibly. |
Can I melt lead?
On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:54:12 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 22:59:41 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote: JoshAGS on Fri, 03 Jul 2015 03:18:01 +0000 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? Depends on who you talk to. Having melted enough lead to fill a pop can on a gas stove - I'd say an ounce is likely to be no problem. Just don't use the good cookware, and wash your hands afterwards. OTOH, there are those who will react as if you were handling molten plutonium, and insist you follow all the EPA/OSHA/Sierra Club regulations as would applied to M. A. Metal Corporation, or Government Motors. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." IVe cast bullets for aprox 35 yrs. On average when I do a rough melt..turning wheel weights into ingots...I do about 2000 pounds at a time. Ill do that at least once a year...x 35 yrs....70,000 lbs in 35 yrs. I dont eat while doing the rough melt, I do it outside and I try to stay upwind. Now remelting those ingots into bullets...I tend to do that inside, but I have a "range hood" over my casting area and I suck the smoke outside using fans. So Ill remelt that 2000 lbs at least one more time...make that 150,000 lbs of lead melting. Ive had myself tested for lead..and only once in all those years have I showed any elevation whatsoever and it was so small it may have been a glitch in the testing. Oh..and I wash my hands during the bullet casting and then and only then light a cigarette. Im small scale compared to a lot of guys..so melting lead wont make your pecker fall off and it wont turn you into a Democrat. Bbut, I thought you were registered Demonrat. ;) Take it from me, guys. Gunner isn't too awfully dain bramaged after all that lead work. -- Another belief of mine: that everyone else my age is an adult, whereas I am merely in disguise. -- Margaret Atwood |
Can I melt lead?
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 04:48:35 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:54:12 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 22:59:41 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote: JoshAGS on Fri, 03 Jul 2015 03:18:01 +0000 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? Depends on who you talk to. Having melted enough lead to fill a pop can on a gas stove - I'd say an ounce is likely to be no problem. Just don't use the good cookware, and wash your hands afterwards. OTOH, there are those who will react as if you were handling molten plutonium, and insist you follow all the EPA/OSHA/Sierra Club regulations as would applied to M. A. Metal Corporation, or Government Motors. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." IVe cast bullets for aprox 35 yrs. On average when I do a rough melt..turning wheel weights into ingots...I do about 2000 pounds at a time. Ill do that at least once a year...x 35 yrs....70,000 lbs in 35 yrs. I dont eat while doing the rough melt, I do it outside and I try to stay upwind. Now remelting those ingots into bullets...I tend to do that inside, but I have a "range hood" over my casting area and I suck the smoke outside using fans. So Ill remelt that 2000 lbs at least one more time...make that 150,000 lbs of lead melting. Ive had myself tested for lead..and only once in all those years have I showed any elevation whatsoever and it was so small it may have been a glitch in the testing. Oh..and I wash my hands during the bullet casting and then and only then light a cigarette. Im small scale compared to a lot of guys..so melting lead wont make your pecker fall off and it wont turn you into a Democrat. Bbut, I thought you were registered Demonrat. ;) I am. Long story....but I stay a Demonrat because of all the cool junk mail I get from DNC headquarters. Take it from me, guys. Gunner isn't too awfully dain bramaged after all that lead work. bub...bubb...danks mistr! Gunr |
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On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:58:47 -0400, Tom Gardner
wrote: On 7/3/2015 9:18 PM, JoshAGS wrote: replying to JoshAGS, JoshAGS wrote: JoshAGS wrote: I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? Everyone stop freaking out? I'm only melting an ounce of lead in a small skillet I bought for melting zinc. I'm only going to melt lead once in my life and this is only a small amount. I'm melting it for display so I can put it in my element collection. You will die no doubt...just not from Lead poisoning. But, it might rip a hole in the space/time continuum and destroy the Universe Hold a steel container with vice grips over your favorite propane torch..and simply wiggle the can around a little bit. For an ounce..Id not bother even fluxing it. If you feel the need...drop in a pinch off a beeswax candle and wiggle it around a tad. Hell..an ounce of lead is about the size of your thumb from the tip to the first joint..unless you have hands like me..then its 3 oz. Gunner |
Can I melt lead?
On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 03:18:01 +0000, JoshAGS
wrote: I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? Your stove is fine. Any fumes generated will be the higher volatility tin/zinc/antimony vaporizing out from impure lead. This is generally not a problem if you don't overheat the lead. Run your stove's vent hood and don't worry about it. Even if you did overheat the lead enough to generated lead fumes, as the old saying goes "The devil's in the dose". You're dealing with such a tiny amount of lead that a significant amount of fumes could be generated, in practical terms. John John DeArmond http://www.neon-john.com http://www.fluxeon.com Tellico Plains, Occupied TN See website for email address |
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Tom Gardner on Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:51:03 -0400 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On 7/3/2015 1:59 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote: OTOH, my brother managed to strip the wax off the kitchen floor when he spilled a quarter pound of molten lead off the stove. Didn't get a drop on him, but we found lead under the fridge when we moved out. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." My best is having a live primer somehow getting into the boolit reject can then pouring the rejects into the melt pot. I still have lead spots on the ceiling and not a speck got on me. I check everything that goes in the pot very carefully. Had a friend melting down pewter ware. Didn't know about the hollow handle - big splash of pewter all over the basement. Oh, and I once notices something odd about the 303 round - primer was inserted backwards. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." |
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Larry Jaques on Sat, 04 Jul 2015
04:48:35 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:54:12 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 22:59:41 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote: JoshAGS on Fri, 03 Jul 2015 03:18:01 +0000 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? Depends on who you talk to. Having melted enough lead to fill a pop can on a gas stove - I'd say an ounce is likely to be no problem. Just don't use the good cookware, and wash your hands afterwards. OTOH, there are those who will react as if you were handling molten plutonium, and insist you follow all the EPA/OSHA/Sierra Club regulations as would applied to M. A. Metal Corporation, or Government Motors. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." IVe cast bullets for aprox 35 yrs. On average when I do a rough melt..turning wheel weights into ingots...I do about 2000 pounds at a time. Ill do that at least once a year...x 35 yrs....70,000 lbs in 35 yrs. I dont eat while doing the rough melt, I do it outside and I try to stay upwind. Now remelting those ingots into bullets...I tend to do that inside, but I have a "range hood" over my casting area and I suck the smoke outside using fans. So Ill remelt that 2000 lbs at least one more time...make that 150,000 lbs of lead melting. Ive had myself tested for lead..and only once in all those years have I showed any elevation whatsoever and it was so small it may have been a glitch in the testing. Oh..and I wash my hands during the bullet casting and then and only then light a cigarette. Im small scale compared to a lot of guys..so melting lead wont make your pecker fall off and it wont turn you into a Democrat. Bbut, I thought you were registered Demonrat. ;) Take it from me, guys. Gunner isn't too awfully dain bramaged after all that lead work. No, the brain damage is why he started melting all that lead. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." |
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On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 11:38:29 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote: Larry Jaques on Sat, 04 Jul 2015 04:48:35 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Fri, 03 Jul 2015 21:54:12 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2015 22:59:41 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote: JoshAGS on Fri, 03 Jul 2015 03:18:01 +0000 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? Depends on who you talk to. Having melted enough lead to fill a pop can on a gas stove - I'd say an ounce is likely to be no problem. Just don't use the good cookware, and wash your hands afterwards. OTOH, there are those who will react as if you were handling molten plutonium, and insist you follow all the EPA/OSHA/Sierra Club regulations as would applied to M. A. Metal Corporation, or Government Motors. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." IVe cast bullets for aprox 35 yrs. On average when I do a rough melt..turning wheel weights into ingots...I do about 2000 pounds at a time. Ill do that at least once a year...x 35 yrs....70,000 lbs in 35 yrs. I dont eat while doing the rough melt, I do it outside and I try to stay upwind. Now remelting those ingots into bullets...I tend to do that inside, but I have a "range hood" over my casting area and I suck the smoke outside using fans. So Ill remelt that 2000 lbs at least one more time...make that 150,000 lbs of lead melting. Ive had myself tested for lead..and only once in all those years have I showed any elevation whatsoever and it was so small it may have been a glitch in the testing. Oh..and I wash my hands during the bullet casting and then and only then light a cigarette. Im small scale compared to a lot of guys..so melting lead wont make your pecker fall off and it wont turn you into a Democrat. Bbut, I thought you were registered Demonrat. ;) Take it from me, guys. Gunner isn't too awfully dain bramaged after all that lead work. No, the brain damage is why he started melting all that lead. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." Nah...empty wallet was why I started melting all that lead. Just as debilitating and even more painful Gunner |
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On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 11:38:29 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote: Tom Gardner on Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:51:03 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On 7/3/2015 1:59 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote: OTOH, my brother managed to strip the wax off the kitchen floor when he spilled a quarter pound of molten lead off the stove. Didn't get a drop on him, but we found lead under the fridge when we moved out. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." My best is having a live primer somehow getting into the boolit reject can then pouring the rejects into the melt pot. I still have lead spots on the ceiling and not a speck got on me. I check everything that goes in the pot very carefully. Had a friend melting down pewter ware. Didn't know about the hollow handle - big splash of pewter all over the basement. Oh, and I once notices something odd about the 303 round - primer was inserted backwards. Doesnt go Bang very well in that orientation. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." |
Can I melt lead?
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 16:02:51 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 11:38:29 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote: Tom Gardner on Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:51:03 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On 7/3/2015 1:59 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote: OTOH, my brother managed to strip the wax off the kitchen floor when he spilled a quarter pound of molten lead off the stove. Didn't get a drop on him, but we found lead under the fridge when we moved out. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." My best is having a live primer somehow getting into the boolit reject can then pouring the rejects into the melt pot. I still have lead spots on the ceiling and not a speck got on me. I check everything that goes in the pot very carefully. Had a friend melting down pewter ware. Didn't know about the hollow handle - big splash of pewter all over the basement. Oh, and I once notices something odd about the 303 round - primer was inserted backwards. Doesnt go Bang very well in that orientation. The question is: How do you press and seat one backwards without it going off? -- Another belief of mine: that everyone else my age is an adult, whereas I am merely in disguise. -- Margaret Atwood |
Can I melt lead?
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:58:47 -0400, Tom Gardner
wrote: On 7/3/2015 9:18 PM, JoshAGS wrote: replying to JoshAGS, JoshAGS wrote: JoshAGS wrote: I was wondering if it's okay to melt a small amount of lead on my stove. It's possible but I heard it creates toxic fumes. I only want to melt about 1 once worth of fishing sinkers into 1 solid piece. Is this fine or should I still do it outside? Everyone stop freaking out? I'm only melting an ounce of lead in a small skillet I bought for melting zinc. I'm only going to melt lead once in my life and this is only a small amount. I'm melting it for display so I can put it in my element collection. You will die no doubt...just not from Lead poisoning. But, it might rip a hole in the space/time continuum and destroy the Universe That's what I have to worry about every time I ScarySharp(tm) an iron for my plane. It puts a single-molecule edge on the things which, if you wave it around too fast, will split atoms. And you know what happens when you do _that_. -- Another belief of mine: that everyone else my age is an adult, whereas I am merely in disguise. -- Margaret Atwood |
Can I melt lead?
On Sun, 05 Jul 2015 06:31:24 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 16:02:51 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 11:38:29 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote: Tom Gardner on Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:51:03 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On 7/3/2015 1:59 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote: OTOH, my brother managed to strip the wax off the kitchen floor when he spilled a quarter pound of molten lead off the stove. Didn't get a drop on him, but we found lead under the fridge when we moved out. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." My best is having a live primer somehow getting into the boolit reject can then pouring the rejects into the melt pot. I still have lead spots on the ceiling and not a speck got on me. I check everything that goes in the pot very carefully. Had a friend melting down pewter ware. Didn't know about the hollow handle - big splash of pewter all over the basement. Oh, and I once notices something odd about the 303 round - primer was inserted backwards. Doesnt go Bang very well in that orientation. The question is: How do you press and seat one backwards without it going off? It takes more energy (usually) directly over the "anvil" to set off a primer than slowly pushing it in (or out) takes. If you find a loaded cartridge with an upside down primer, pull the bullet, dump the powder and then knock out the primer as normal on your press...just dont be surprised it if goes POP!. Do this in your press and take a stout rag and put it around the depriming groove in the back of the ram before pushing on the primer as occasionally that tiny little "anvil" will come blasting out and it Hurts! if it hits you in the face on the bounce. Gunner |
Can I melt lead?
Gunner Asch on Sat, 04 Jul 2015 16:02:51 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 11:38:29 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote: Tom Gardner on Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:51:03 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On 7/3/2015 1:59 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote: OTOH, my brother managed to strip the wax off the kitchen floor when he spilled a quarter pound of molten lead off the stove. Didn't get a drop on him, but we found lead under the fridge when we moved out. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." My best is having a live primer somehow getting into the boolit reject can then pouring the rejects into the melt pot. I still have lead spots on the ceiling and not a speck got on me. I check everything that goes in the pot very carefully. Had a friend melting down pewter ware. Didn't know about the hollow handle - big splash of pewter all over the basement. Oh, and I once notices something odd about the 303 round - primer was inserted backwards. Doesnt go Bang very well in that orientation. I did not test that hypothesis. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." |
Can I melt lead?
Larry Jaques on Sun, 05 Jul 2015
06:31:24 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 16:02:51 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 11:38:29 -0700, pyotr filipivich wrote: Tom Gardner on Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:51:03 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following: On 7/3/2015 1:59 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote: OTOH, my brother managed to strip the wax off the kitchen floor when he spilled a quarter pound of molten lead off the stove. Didn't get a drop on him, but we found lead under the fridge when we moved out. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." My best is having a live primer somehow getting into the boolit reject can then pouring the rejects into the melt pot. I still have lead spots on the ceiling and not a speck got on me. I check everything that goes in the pot very carefully. Had a friend melting down pewter ware. Didn't know about the hollow handle - big splash of pewter all over the basement. Oh, and I once notices something odd about the 303 round - primer was inserted backwards. Doesnt go Bang very well in that orientation. The question is: How do you press and seat one backwards without it going off? Very carefully? OTOH, them Hindus are a very clever people ... eh whot? -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." |
Can I melt lead?
On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 06:51:03 -0400, Tom Gardner
wrote: On 7/3/2015 1:59 AM, pyotr filipivich wrote: OTOH, my brother managed to strip the wax off the kitchen floor when he spilled a quarter pound of molten lead off the stove. Didn't get a drop on him, but we found lead under the fridge when we moved out. -- pyotr filipivich "With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone." My best is having a live primer somehow getting into the boolit reject can then pouring the rejects into the melt pot. I still have lead spots on the ceiling and not a speck got on me. I check everything that goes in the pot very carefully. I got VERY lucky and only got an "S" for STUPID on the back of my right thumb during a "brain fart" when I thought it would be quicker to cool my mold in water! --- Gerry :-)} London,Canada |
Can I melt lead?
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