http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...-steam-in-iowa

"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has more than doubled his support in Iowa, as the Democratic presidential hopeful gains ground on front-runner Hillary Clinton in the early-voting state, according to a new poll.

Sanders takes 33 percent support among likely Democratic caucus-goers in the state, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday. That's up from 15 percent in the poll in May.
Clinton's support in the poll has fallen from 60 percent in May to 52 percent, while Vice President Biden takes 7 percent, and former Maryland Gov. Martin O'Malley receives 3 percent in the newest poll.

Eighty-five percent of Democrats surveyed in the poll view Clinton favorably, compared to 66 percent for Sanders. Still, more than a quarter of respondents, 26 percent, say they haven't heard enough about Sanders.

It is the latest poll showing a surge by the Vermont senator, thought to be a long-shot candidate for the Democratic nomination. He came within 8 percentage points of Clinton in a WMUR/CNN poll in New Hampshire last week.

Sanders, a self-described democratic socialist, reportedly drew 10,000 supporters during a campaign stop in Wisconsin this week. He came within 8 percentage points of Clinton in a Badger State poll last month.

The latest Quinnipiac survey of 761 likely Iowa Democratic caucus-goers was conducted June 20-29 via landlines and cellphones with a margin of error of 3.6 points."

Jon banquet wrote:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...-steam-in-iowa

"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has more than doubled his support in Iowa, as the Democratic
presidential hopeful gains ground on front-runner Hillary Clinton in the early-voting state,
according to a new poll.

Right, but this has all become stranger, now. MSNBC is showing Joe Biden, of all people, ahead of Sanders...

"'Draft Biden' movement gains steam" MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/w...m-474691651519

3 days ago - Joe Biden jumps ahead of Bernie Sanders in new poll and big crowds turn out to see Sanders. The head of a "Draft Biden" movement joins the ...

jon banquer wrote:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...-steam-in-iowa

"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has more than doubled his support in Iowa, as the Democratic
presidential hopeful gains ground on front-runner Hillary Clinton in the early-voting state,
according to a new poll.

Right, but this has all become stranger, now. MSNBC is showing Joe Biden, of all people, ahead of Sanders...

"'Draft Biden' movement gains steam" MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/w...m-474691651519

3 days ago - Joe Biden jumps ahead of Bernie Sanders in new poll and big crowds turn out to see Sanders. The head of a "Draft Biden" movement joins the ...

On Sat, 4 Jul 2015 15:36:47 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Jon banquet wrote:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...-steam-in-iowa

"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has more than doubled his support in Iowa, as the Democratic
presidential hopeful gains ground on front-runner Hillary Clinton in the early-voting state,
according to a new poll.

Right, but this has all become stranger, now. MSNBC is showing Joe Biden, of all people, ahead of Sanders...

"'Draft Biden' movement gains steam" MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/w...m-474691651519

3 days ago - Joe Biden jumps ahead of Bernie Sanders in new poll and big crowds turn out to see Sanders. The head of a "Draft Biden" movement joins the ...
====================

An example of how American election campaigns have
degenerated into media wars fought on the basis of the
creation of positive and negative personality cults like
rock groups.

Bernie Sanders was born September 8, 1941 and will be 74
years old when he STARTS his term if elected. He may be a
fine individual, with many good ideas/intentions, but he is
too old for the 24/7 job of President of the U. S.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

Where is the critical analysis of the available data and
proposed "solutions?" Why are new "cults" formed every four
or even two years, rather than continuing organizations with
relatively fixed, albeit evolving as the circumstances
change, data driven programs and goals/objectives? Where
are the equivalents of the _Federalist Papers_ and their
authors?


--
Unka' George

"Gold is the money of kings,
silver is the money of gentlemen,
barter is the money of peasants,
but debt is the money of slaves"

-Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium"

On Sat, 04 Jul 2015 18:47:47 -0500, F. George McDuffee
wrote:

On Sat, 4 Jul 2015 15:36:47 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Jon banquet wrote:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...-steam-in-iowa

"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has more than doubled his support in Iowa, as the Democratic
presidential hopeful gains ground on front-runner Hillary Clinton in the early-voting state,
according to a new poll.

Right, but this has all become stranger, now. MSNBC is showing Joe Biden, of all people, ahead of Sanders...

"'Draft Biden' movement gains steam" MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/w...m-474691651519

3 days ago - Joe Biden jumps ahead of Bernie Sanders in new poll and big crowds turn out to see Sanders. The head of a "Draft Biden" movement joins the ...
====================

An example of how American election campaigns have
degenerated into media wars fought on the basis of the
creation of positive and negative personality cults like
rock groups.

Bernie Sanders was born September 8, 1941 and will be 74
years old when he STARTS his term if elected. He may be a
fine individual, with many good ideas/intentions, but he is
too old for the 24/7 job of President of the U. S.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

Where is the critical analysis of the available data and
proposed "solutions?" Why are new "cults" formed every four
or even two years, rather than continuing organizations with
relatively fixed, albeit evolving as the circumstances
change, data driven programs and goals/objectives? Where
are the equivalents of the _Federalist Papers_ and their
authors?

They are on the Constitutional Right..and are condemned strongly by
everyone to the left of Ron Paul. Those pesky old Federalist type
papers and the even more important Anti-Federalist Papers are a
serious threat to those trying to turn (and sucessfuly so) the US into
just another socialist failure.

Its hard to imagine that JFK was considered to be a Moderate
Democrat..when today he would be considered a Hard Right Winger

Gunner

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 7:47:52 PM UTC-4, F. George McDuffee wrote:
On Sat, 4 Jul 2015 15:36:47 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

Jon banquet wrote:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...-steam-in-iowa

"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has more than doubled his support in Iowa, as the Democratic
presidential hopeful gains ground on front-runner Hillary Clinton in the early-voting state,
according to a new poll.

Right, but this has all become stranger, now. MSNBC is showing Joe Biden, of all people, ahead of Sanders...

"'Draft Biden' movement gains steam" MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/w...m-474691651519

3 days ago - Joe Biden jumps ahead of Bernie Sanders in new poll and big crowds turn out to see Sanders. The head of a "Draft Biden" movement joins the ...
====================

An example of how American election campaigns have
degenerated into media wars fought on the basis of the
creation of positive and negative personality cults like
rock groups.

I'd say its always been like that in one form or another, but 24 hour media reports in this day and age are pretty correct. These reports are not "bull****", as you say. You are one of the sharper ones in here, aren't you, jon?

On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 7:06:17 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 3:44:17 PM UTC-7, wrote:
jon banquer wrote:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...-steam-in-iowa

"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has more than doubled his support in Iowa, as the Democratic
presidential hopeful gains ground on front-runner Hillary Clinton in the early-voting state,
according to a new poll.

Right, but this has all become stranger, now. MSNBC is showing Joe Biden, of all people, ahead of Sanders...

"'Draft Biden' movement gains steam" MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/w...m-474691651519

3 days ago - Joe Biden jumps ahead of Bernie Sanders in new poll and big crowds turn out to see Sanders. The head of a "Draft Biden" movement joins the ...

Stop believing the bull**** you read in mainstream media.

Jon, these reports are not "bull****", as you say. Today's MSM is pretty ironclad in its claims to be considered as lying. Ever. You are one of the sharper ones in here, aren't you, jon?

On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 7:06:17 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 3:44:17 PM UTC-7, wrote:
jon banquer wrote:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...-steam-in-iowa

"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has more than doubled his support in Iowa, as the Democratic
presidential hopeful gains ground on front-runner Hillary Clinton in the early-voting state,
according to a new poll.

Right, but this has all become stranger, now. MSNBC is showing Joe Biden, of all people, ahead of Sanders...

"'Draft Biden' movement gains steam" MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/w...m-474691651519

3 days ago - Joe Biden jumps ahead of Bernie Sanders in new poll and big crowds turn out to see Sanders. The head of a "Draft Biden" movement joins the ...

Stop believing the bull**** you read in mainstream media.

Jon, these reports are not "bull****", as you say. Today's MSM is pretty ironclad in its claims to be considered as lying. Ever. You are one of the sharper ones in here, aren't you, jon?

If you chose to believe the bull****, lies and omission that mainstream media feeds you that's your choice.

On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 2:54:17 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:
On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 7:06:17 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 3:44:17 PM UTC-7, wrote:
jon banquer wrote:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...-steam-in-iowa

"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has more than doubled his support in Iowa, as the Democratic
presidential hopeful gains ground on front-runner Hillary Clinton in the early-voting state,
according to a new poll.

Right, but this has all become stranger, now. MSNBC is showing Joe Biden, of all people, ahead of Sanders...

"'Draft Biden' movement gains steam" MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/w...m-474691651519

3 days ago - Joe Biden jumps ahead of Bernie Sanders in new poll and big crowds turn out to see Sanders. The head of a "Draft Biden" movement joins the ...

Stop believing the bull**** you read in mainstream media.

Jon, these reports are not "bull****", as you say. Today's MSM is pretty ironclad in its claims to be considered as lying. Ever. You are one of the sharper ones in here, aren't you, jon?

If you chose to believe the bull****, lies and omission that
mainstream media feeds you that's your choice.

We gotta look at this sensibly, not like knuckle draggers, OK? Bernie should have chosen the democrat label from the start. Not only now.

Is it my fault that Bernie did stuff like choose the label "socialist" and then turn around and choose to run for president as a "democrat"?

Here, look at results from that, as well:
" ... 47% of Americans say they would vote for a qualified socialist as president."
"58%, of Americans say they would vote for a qualified atheist candidate for president."
'60% percent of Americans say they would support a qualified Muslim for president."
74% of Americans would support a qualified gay or lesbian presidential candidate.


Fewer voters would choose Bernie, a socialist, than they would an atheist, muslim or gay candidate.

( http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-...ixzz3fEaxajrZ? )

On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 12:13:46 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 2:54:17 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:
On Tuesday, July 7, 2015 at 11:24:15 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 7:06:17 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:
On Saturday, July 4, 2015 at 3:44:17 PM UTC-7, wrote:
jon banquer wrote:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/...-steam-in-iowa

"Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has more than doubled his support in Iowa, as the Democratic
presidential hopeful gains ground on front-runner Hillary Clinton in the early-voting state,
according to a new poll.

Right, but this has all become stranger, now. MSNBC is showing Joe Biden, of all people, ahead of Sanders...

"'Draft Biden' movement gains steam" MSNBC

http://www.msnbc.com/the-last-word/w...m-474691651519

3 days ago - Joe Biden jumps ahead of Bernie Sanders in new poll and big crowds turn out to see Sanders. The head of a "Draft Biden" movement joins the ...

Stop believing the bull**** you read in mainstream media.

Jon, these reports are not "bull****", as you say. Today's MSM is pretty ironclad in its claims to be considered as lying. Ever. You are one of the sharper ones in here, aren't you, jon?

If you chose to believe the bull****, lies and omission that
mainstream media feeds you that's your choice.

We gotta look at this sensibly, not like knuckle draggers, OK? Bernie should have chosen the democrat label from the start. Not only now.

Is it my fault that Bernie did stuff like choose the label "socialist" and then turn around and choose to run for president as a "democrat"?

Here, look at results from that, as well:
" ... 47% of Americans say they would vote for a qualified socialist as president."
"58%, of Americans say they would vote for a qualified atheist candidate for president."
'60% percent of Americans say they would support a qualified Muslim for president."
74% of Americans would support a qualified gay or lesbian presidential candidate.


Fewer voters would choose Bernie, a socialist, than they would an atheist, muslim or gay candidate.

( http://www.businessinsider.com/poll-...ixzz3fEaxajrZ? )


I find it hard to take any Hillary Clinton supporter seriously.