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So, any time I ask about something specific it seems to be unobtainium.
Is there such a think as a stock line of clips for various thicknesses of material? I'm looking for something shaped like this (view in fixed-width): ) ( | | | | '----' Ideally the throat of the clip would be 5/16" wide; the depth is quite negotiable. Even more ideally, there would be a variety of clip sizes and gauges available. Even more ideally yet, the clips would be available in stainless steel, or some other metal that can stand salt water. Your thoughts appreciated, although "Tim! You're crazy!" won't get you far -- I'm already aware of that. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com |
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On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 2:35:25 PM UTC-4, Tim Wescott wrote:
Is there such a think as a stock line of clips for various thicknesses of material? Your thoughts appreciated, although "Tim! You're crazy!" won't get you far -- I'm already aware of that. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com I do not know of a source, but I think you should give us an idea of what you are trying to do. I have some stainless banding material and it would be no big deal to cut some lengths and bend to shape. But I doubt if the clamping force would be enough. Regular steel banding material is stiffer. You could probably go to Lowes or Home Depot and get some free used banding |
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Tim Wescott prodded the keyboard with:
So, any time I ask about something specific it seems to be unobtainium. Is there such a think as a stock line of clips for various thicknesses of material? I'm looking for something shaped like this (view in fixed-width): ) ( | | | | '----' Ideally the throat of the clip would be 5/16" wide; the depth is quite negotiable. Even more ideally, there would be a variety of clip sizes and gauges available. Even more ideally yet, the clips would be available in stainless steel, or some other metal that can stand salt water. Your thoughts appreciated, although "Tim! You're crazy!" won't get you far -- I'm already aware of that. I've seen them used on washing machines for joining two thin flat sheets of metal together. They usually have a dog on them that digs into the sheet that stops them from coming loose or being removed. All the ones I've seen have been plain spring steel. There is a company in Birmingham UK that makes them, I can't remember the name for the moment... Try "Lee Springs" -- Best Regards: Baron. |
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 13:35:22 -0500, Tim Wescott
wrote: So, any time I ask about something specific it seems to be unobtainium. Is there such a think as a stock line of clips for various thicknesses of material? I'm looking for something shaped like this (view in fixed-width): ) ( | | | | '----' Ideally the throat of the clip would be 5/16" wide; the depth is quite negotiable. Even more ideally, there would be a variety of clip sizes and gauges available. Even more ideally yet, the clips would be available in stainless steel, or some other metal that can stand salt water. Your thoughts appreciated, although "Tim! You're crazy!" won't get you far -- I'm already aware of that. Hi, Tim:- You may indeed be crazy, but have you checked out Tinnerman U-Type fasteners? Here's a distie catalog, PDF page 537+, for example. http://www.spaenaur.com/pdf/Spaenaur...3_Complete.pdf -- Best regards, Spehro Pefhany Amazon link for AoE 3rd Edition: http://tinyurl.com/ntrpwu8 Microchip link for 2015 Masters in Phoenix: http://tinyurl.com/l7g2k48 |
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:56:35 -0400, Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 13:35:22 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote: So, any time I ask about something specific it seems to be unobtainium. Is there such a think as a stock line of clips for various thicknesses of material? I'm looking for something shaped like this (view in fixed-width): ) ( | | | | '----' Ideally the throat of the clip would be 5/16" wide; the depth is quite negotiable. Even more ideally, there would be a variety of clip sizes and gauges available. Even more ideally yet, the clips would be available in stainless steel, or some other metal that can stand salt water. Your thoughts appreciated, although "Tim! You're crazy!" won't get you far -- I'm already aware of that. Hi, Tim:- You may indeed be crazy, but have you checked out Tinnerman U-Type fasteners? Here's a distie catalog, PDF page 537+, for example. http://www.spaenaur.com/pdf/Spaenaur...3_Complete.pdf If I could get them in stainless I'd be a happy camper. The instrument needs to work on the sea shore, so I'd rather not use spring steel for the job. It should give me some search terms, though. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com |
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On 6/26/2015 1:35 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
So, any time I ask about something specific it seems to be unobtainium. Is there such a think as a stock line of clips for various thicknesses of material? I'm looking for something shaped like this (view in fixed-width): ) ( | | | | '----' Ideally the throat of the clip would be 5/16" wide; the depth is quite negotiable. Even more ideally, there would be a variety of clip sizes and gauges available. Even more ideally yet, the clips would be available in stainless steel, or some other metal that can stand salt water. Your thoughts appreciated, although "Tim! You're crazy!" won't get you far -- I'm already aware of that. Without knowing your use or if it is a clip you need, my first thought is aluminum channel. Cut it to the length you want for each clip. It also comes in different widths, so your throat can be what ever you can find available. Lowes and HD stock some sizes. Mikek --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com |
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On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 5:16:36 PM UTC-4, Tim Wescott wrote:
I want to clip two fiberglass panels together, compressing a gasket that's in between. Then I want to put a rubber edge seal around the whole shebang. In theory just the rubber edge seal would do, but I don't want to try to explain that thinking to an unhappy customer. Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com That almost sounds like making thermopane windows. Dan |
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 14:56:22 -0700, wrote:
On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 5:16:36 PM UTC-4, Tim Wescott wrote: I want to clip two fiberglass panels together, compressing a gasket that's in between. Then I want to put a rubber edge seal around the whole shebang. In theory just the rubber edge seal would do, but I don't want to try to explain that thinking to an unhappy customer. Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com That almost sounds like making thermopane windows. Are there clips available for thermopane windows? -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com |
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Tim Wescott wrote:
So, any time I ask about something specific it seems to be unobtainium. Is there such a think as a stock line of clips for various thicknesses of material? I'm looking for something shaped like this (view in fixed-width): ) ( | | | | '----' Ideally the throat of the clip would be 5/16" wide; the depth is quite negotiable. Even more ideally, there would be a variety of clip sizes and gauges available. Even more ideally yet, the clips would be available in stainless steel, or some other metal that can stand salt water. Your thoughts appreciated, although "Tim! You're crazy!" won't get you far -- I'm already aware of that. If this will need a finished look, look at some of the push on windlass trim used on vehicles. Basically U shaped rubber channel with a long spring clip inside it. Push it onto the edge and it grips and locks in place. -- Steve W. |
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:16:34 -0500, Tim Wescott
wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 12:50:42 -0700, wrote: On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 2:35:25 PM UTC-4, Tim Wescott wrote: Is there such a think as a stock line of clips for various thicknesses of material? Your thoughts appreciated, although "Tim! You're crazy!" won't get you far -- I'm already aware of that. I do not know of a source, but I think you should give us an idea of what you are trying to do. What? Why? I want to clip two fiberglass panels together, compressing a gasket that's in between. Then I want to put a rubber edge seal around the whole shebang. In theory just the rubber edge seal would do, but I don't want to try to explain that thinking to an unhappy customer. If you took the arms off , would a clip for papers work? Almost, yes. The typical rolled edges of that sort of paper clip would be a bit of an issue, but not much. Try here... http://www.clipsandfasteners.com/ ' There is an entire world of clips, clamps and fasteners around us...most often in automobiles and rolling stock. Those clips you are looking for are very common Gunner |
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On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 6:08:00 PM UTC-4, Tim Wescott wrote:
Are there clips available for thermopane windows? -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com Not that I know of. But Thermopane windows do not have any clips on the finished window. They rely on the sealant to hold the pieces together. You could probably just use c-clamps to hold the pieces of fiberglass together. And apply sealant except right at the c-clamps. And after the sealant hos set up, remove the c-clamps , and apply sealant where the c-clamps were. Dan |
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... ... If this will need a finished look, look at some of the push on windlass trim used on vehicles. Basically U shaped rubber channel with a long spring clip inside it. Push it onto the edge and it grips and locks in place. -- Steve W. Does it ever! I had quite a time removing the old lower window (beltline) rubber sealing strips from my truck. |
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:47:37 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 6:08:00 PM UTC-4, Tim Wescott wrote: Are there clips available for thermopane windows? -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com Not that I know of. But Thermopane windows do not have any clips on the finished window. They rely on the sealant to hold the pieces together. You could probably just use c-clamps to hold the pieces of fiberglass together. And apply sealant except right at the c-clamps. And after the sealant hos set up, remove the c-clamps , and apply sealant where the c-clamps were. Dan Or just apply the sealant- pop the two peices together, and clamp them untill the sealant has set.. Or just butter the joint with resin and microballoons and pop it together. (But I assume the reason for gasket and clips is to allow future dissassembly??) Composite aircraft and fiberglass auto bodies are fabricated by this method all the time. |
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Tim Wescott writes: Is there such a think as a stock line of clips for various thicknesses of material? I'm looking for something shaped like this (view in fixed-width): ) ( | | | | '----' Clips of that general type are used by (picture) framing shops. They're used to hold a poster, drawing or other art on paper between a sheet of foamcore board and a sheet of clear plastic. -- Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada |
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On 6/26/2015 7:03 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
Try here... http://www.clipsandfasteners.com/ ' There is an entire world of clips, clamps and fasteners around us...most often in automobiles and rolling stock. Those clips you are looking for are very common Gunner Nice resource! |
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On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 00:20:50 -0400, Tom Gardner
wrote: On 6/26/2015 7:03 PM, Gunner Asch wrote: Try here... http://www.clipsandfasteners.com/ ' There is an entire world of clips, clamps and fasteners around us...most often in automobiles and rolling stock. Those clips you are looking for are very common Nice resource! Extremely fair pricing and shipping. Some places gild their prices for any kind of body clip. It truly sucks. C&F is great. Saved for future purchases! -- Find out what people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. --Frederick Douglass |
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:47:37 -0700, wrote:
On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 6:08:00 PM UTC-4, Tim Wescott wrote: Are there clips available for thermopane windows? -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com Not that I know of. But Thermopane windows do not have any clips on the finished window. They rely on the sealant to hold the pieces together. You could probably just use c-clamps to hold the pieces of fiberglass together. And apply sealant except right at the c-clamps. And after the sealant hos set up, remove the c-clamps , and apply sealant where the c-clamps were. I'm trying to come up with a plan B in case we decide that gluing things together permanently is a bad idea. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com |
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On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 00:20:50 -0400, Tom Gardner
wrote: On 6/26/2015 7:03 PM, Gunner Asch wrote: Try here... http://www.clipsandfasteners.com/ ' There is an entire world of clips, clamps and fasteners around us...most often in automobiles and rolling stock. Those clips you are looking for are very common Gunner Nice resource! I found them a year or so ago..the plastic spike thingys that hold the plastic panel of the drivers door to the Chevy Venture busted when I replaced the power window switch..so I bought 50 of them..$4.65 plus shipping as I recall. Autozone wanted $3.50 for (3) of them. Very neat layout and easy to use. Best grouping of such stuff Ive found online so far. Bookmarked em of course. Gunner |
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 13:35:22 -0500, Tim Wescott wrote:
.... Is there such a thing as a stock line of clips for various thicknesses of material? .... Ideally the throat of the clip would be 5/16" wide; the depth is quite negotiable. Even more ideally, there would be a variety of clip sizes and gauges available. Even more ideally yet, the clips would be available in stainless steel, or some other metal that can stand salt water. .... Spring-steel paint-can clips are available in several sizes with various finishes. I haven't seen any in stainless. http://www.thecarycompany.com/containers/can_clips.html http://www.emptypaintcans.com/canclips.aspx -- jiw |
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On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 01:02:45 -0500, Tim Wescott
wrote: On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:47:37 -0700, wrote: On Friday, June 26, 2015 at 6:08:00 PM UTC-4, Tim Wescott wrote: Are there clips available for thermopane windows? -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com Not that I know of. But Thermopane windows do not have any clips on the finished window. They rely on the sealant to hold the pieces together. You could probably just use c-clamps to hold the pieces of fiberglass together. And apply sealant except right at the c-clamps. And after the sealant hos set up, remove the c-clamps , and apply sealant where the c-clamps were. I'm trying to come up with a plan B in case we decide that gluing things together permanently is a bad idea. Gee, how could permanent glue, duct tape, bubblegum, or baling wire _ever_ be a bad idea, Tim? The engineers at SouthCom, Int'l. (ca 1972) solvent-glued lexan windows into the lexan front panels of their manpack radios. As a QA inspector, I bounced dozens and my boss OKed only slightly fewer. (I mean, who needs to see the state of the battery charge or the xmit power out on the battlefield, anyway? I'm sure the (Paki) soldiers were perfectly happy with cloudy windows.) P.S: I personally believe that Crom invented o-rings for a purpose. -- Find out what people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. --Frederick Douglass |
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2015 23:08:16 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 00:20:50 -0400, Tom Gardner wrote: On 6/26/2015 7:03 PM, Gunner Asch wrote: Try here... http://www.clipsandfasteners.com/ ' There is an entire world of clips, clamps and fasteners around us...most often in automobiles and rolling stock. Those clips you are looking for are very common Gunner Nice resource! I found them a year or so ago..the plastic spike thingys that hold the plastic panel of the drivers door to the Chevy Venture busted when I replaced the power window switch..so I bought 50 of them..$4.65 plus shipping as I recall. Autozone wanted $3.50 for (3) of them. I paid $5 at AutoZone for a little package of clips just so I could get the one for my tailgate actuation rod. Very neat layout and easy to use. Best grouping of such stuff Ive found online so far. Bookmarked em of course. You betcha! -- Find out what people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. --Frederick Douglass |
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On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:23:06 +0000 (UTC), James Waldby
wrote: http://www.thecarycompany.com/containers/can_clips.htm Ill be damned..Ive never seen paint can clips before, nor have I ever seen them used. ???? |
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On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:10:07 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:23:06 +0000 (UTC), James Waldby wrote: http://www.thecarycompany.com/containers/can_clips.htm Ill be damned..Ive never seen paint can clips before, nor have I ever seen them used. ???? I could have used a set on the stain can that blew the top off in the back of my pickup last month. |
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On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 17:36:58 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:10:07 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:23:06 +0000 (UTC), James Waldby wrote: http://www.thecarycompany.com/containers/can_clips.htm Ill be damned..Ive never seen paint can clips before, nor have I ever seen them used. ???? I could have used a set on the stain can that blew the top off in the back of my pickup last month. No hammer? |
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On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:05:53 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 17:36:58 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:10:07 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:23:06 +0000 (UTC), James Waldby wrote: http://www.thecarycompany.com/containers/can_clips.htm Ill be damned..Ive never seen paint can clips before, nor have I ever seen them used. ???? I could have used a set on the stain can that blew the top off in the back of my pickup last month. No hammer? Oh, it was tight when it went in - and about 40F - the sun came out and the cap of the pickup was about 140F - and the 1/4 full can of oil based stain was in the cap. The lid was about 3 feet from the can when I found it. Not too big of a mess, considering. |
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On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 20:54:49 -0400, wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 15:05:53 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 17:36:58 -0400, wrote: On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 14:10:07 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 27 Jun 2015 16:23:06 +0000 (UTC), James Waldby wrote: http://www.thecarycompany.com/containers/can_clips.htm Ill be damned..Ive never seen paint can clips before, nor have I ever seen them used. ???? I could have used a set on the stain can that blew the top off in the back of my pickup last month. No hammer? Oh, it was tight when it went in - and about 40F - the sun came out and the cap of the pickup was about 140F - and the 1/4 full can of oil based stain was in the cap. The lid was about 3 feet from the can when I found it. Not too big of a mess, considering. That's what you get, putting one of those newfangled covers over a perfectly good bed... Was it good stain? (Penofin Blue is my absolute fave.) -- Find out what people will submit to, and you have found out the exact amount of injustice and wrong which will be imposed on them. --Frederick Douglass |
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