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On Wed, 3 Jun 2015 13:37:55 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=24&v=eY--mT28Jk8

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Not to rain on your parade, but history shows to effect
political changes of this magnitude requires a socioeconomic
catastrophe [e.g. 25% unemployment in the aggregate and
50% young adult with no relief in sight such as

Greece/Spain] and/or gross outside funding/interference
[e.g. Ukraine and Syria] to exacerbate an already unstable
situation.

In spite of what Faux News reports the U. S. is no where
near such an inflection point. Of course this could
abruptly change with a "perfect storm" combination of events
such as a severe stock market break, a Greek default
starting the dominos falling, massive municipal bond
default, and a continuing southwest/California drought,
especially if we the people allow our government to become
involved in another Mideast and/or Ukraine [open-ended] war.

IMNSHO the key is avoiding a "cult of personality" political
party, the formulation of a cohesive, consistent,
continually updated data driven platform or business plan,
and the creation of a movement [not party] to implement this
plan, which will require massive mounts of education, and
continual community outreach such as GED and ESL
instruction, which happens to have considerable political
content.

A lot of work? You bet, and it may take a decade, but when
the crisis occurs, it is the prepared and prepared that will
lead the changes. Outrage without organization,
information, and unity accomplishes little. Compare and
contrast the lack of lasting effect of "Occupy Wall Street"
with the Syriza http://tinyurl.com/nm32zrv government in
Greece and the likely Pedemos http://tinyurl.com/korr7y4
government in Spain


--
Unka' George

"Gold is the money of kings,
silver is the money of gentlemen,
barter is the money of peasants,
but debt is the money of slaves"

-Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium"


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