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Default Small eye bolts - M4

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On 30-May-15 11:15 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
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On 30-May-15 6:22 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2015 09:00:32 +0800, just_me
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Trying to track down a source of small stainless steel eye bolts
for use
in a product.

I need M4 and cannot locate anything below M5.


Something like this:


http://www.berkeleypoint.com/products/hardware/parts/welded_eye_bolt_a.jpg



I've tried all the hardware sellers and marine chandlers I can
think of.
We've even looked at different fixed rod end style fittings but
nothing
seems to be made in M4.



Any ideas?

Thanks.

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/stai...-bolts-m4.html



Thanks for the suggestion, I've been that route. A few seem
promising
but following them through I end up a hard to understand contact
for a
Chinese factory with a minimum buy of 10,000. I wonder if some
only set
up to manufacture when the actually get an order.

Could be. Screwmakers usually have a 10,000 item minimum, because
setting a screw machine up takes some effort, and isn't worth it
for
ten screws.

It may be cheaper to make a few screws manually, in a machine shop.

What problem are you trying to solve? There may be alternatives.

Better question is what it costs for each possible path.

Joe Gwinn



We probably need two thousand or so over a few years. Probably a few
to many to viably hand make and have them look presentable.


Have you tried turnbuckle makers?
http://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Stee.../dp/B00IJ67MKI






Yep - that's what we are doing for now - just using the M4 eye from
turnbuckles.

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Default Small eye bolts - M4

On Saturday, May 30, 2015 at 12:13:40 AM UTC-4, just_me wrote:
On 30-May-15 6:22 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2015 09:00:32 +0800, just_me wrote:

Trying to track down a source of small stainless steel eye bolts for use
in a product.

I need M4 and cannot locate anything below M5.

Something like this:
http://www.berkeleypoint.com/products/hardware/parts/welded_eye_bolt_a.jpg

I've tried all the hardware sellers and marine chandlers I can think of.
We've even looked at different fixed rod end style fittings but nothing
seems to be made in M4.

Any ideas?

Thanks.


http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/stai...-bolts-m4.html


Thanks for the suggestion, I've been that route. A few seem
promising but following them through I end up a hard to
understand contact for a Chinese factory with a minimum buy
of 10,000. I wonder if some only set up to manufacture when
the actually get an order.


That or sell the contract once its signed to someone that they know of whose cheaper, reserving just the paperwork for themselves. It all depends upon the contract.

Last night, I heard on NPR's "Marketplace" (American Public Media) presidential interview that business in China plays by different rules, so that is supposed to justify the TPP support against the wishes of big labor.
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Default Small eye bolts - M4

On Thursday, June 4, 2015 at 8:51:51 AM UTC-4, just_me wrote:
On 02-Jun-15 7:46 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"just_me" wrote in message
...
On 30-May-15 11:15 PM, Joe Gwinn wrote:
In article ,
just_me
wrote:

On 30-May-15 6:22 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 29 May 2015 09:00:32 +0800, just_me
wrote:

Trying to track down a source of small stainless steel eye bolts
for use
in a product.

I need M4 and cannot locate anything below M5.


Something like this:


http://www.berkeleypoint.com/products/hardware/parts/welded_eye_bolt_a.jpg



I've tried all the hardware sellers and marine chandlers I can
think of.
We've even looked at different fixed rod end style fittings but
nothing
seems to be made in M4.



Any ideas?

Thanks.

http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/stai...-bolts-m4.html



Thanks for the suggestion, I've been that route. A few seem
promising
but following them through I end up a hard to understand contact
for a
Chinese factory with a minimum buy of 10,000. I wonder if some
only set
up to manufacture when the actually get an order.

Could be. Screwmakers usually have a 10,000 item minimum, because
setting a screw machine up takes some effort, and isn't worth it
for
ten screws.

It may be cheaper to make a few screws manually, in a machine shop.

What problem are you trying to solve? There may be alternatives.

Better question is what it costs for each possible path.

Joe Gwinn



We probably need two thousand or so over a few years. Probably a few
to many to viably hand make and have them look presentable.


Have you tried turnbuckle makers?
http://www.amazon.com/Stainless-Stee.../dp/B00IJ67MKI






Yep - that's what we are doing for now - just using the M4 eye from
turnbuckles.


And the turnbuckle manufacturer can't or wont supply just the screw eyes? Seems like an opportunity for them to make a quick & easy buck.


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