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On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 3:07:42 PM UTC-4, Karl Townsend wrote:
Id also mention..that is one of the finest welders ever made. I see them in countless machine/welding shops..still chugging away 40 or more years since they were new. Spent four hours on it today, and got nowhere. thar's enough. I'm NOT an electrical repairman. You're right, this was a wonderful welder. I've had it 25 years. Thanks for trying to help the helpless. karl Karl, I am surprised at you. You own a welder for 25 years and say it was a wonderful welder. And then you say you are only looking at Blue Machines. Dan |
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Karl, I am surprised at you. You own a welder for 25 years and say it was a wonderful welder. And then you say you are only looking at Blue Machines. Dan Lincoln made one hell of a good welder 40 years ago. their managment discovered China and cheap manufacturing and ran the name into the ground. DAMN shame but not an uncommon story. |
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On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 9:46:30 PM UTC-4, Karl Townsend wrote:
Lincoln made one hell of a good welder 40 years ago. their managment discovered China and cheap manufacturing and ran the name into the ground. DAMN shame but not an uncommon story. Just be cautious about buying a Miller Econotig. The current ones may be better , but the older ones are not too good. When I was shopping for a Tig welder, the manager of the welding store I frequented told me to avoid the Econotig. His store was a Miller dealership. Dan |
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Karl Townsend wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2015 10:24:26 -0400, Leon Fisk wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2015 05:41:47 -0500 Karl Townsend wrote: snip I'm going to have to take the unit in for repair GULP I had no idea how expensive new welders that will do TIG and 300 amp are. My worry, and I've seen this happen, I get a call a few days later saying sorry can't fix your machine, the bill is $1000. BUT if you buy our new box for too much $ we'll forget about the repair bill. If you want to go new and cheap you might want to consider Everlast: I'm only looking at blue boxes. Karl You might want to consider the Everlast . Mine has performed extremely well for the nearly 2 years I've had it . And it was less than half the cost of blue or red . -- Snag |
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Terry Coombs wrote:
Karl Townsend wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2015 10:24:26 -0400, Leon Fisk wrote: On Tue, 26 May 2015 05:41:47 -0500 Karl Townsend wrote: snip I'm going to have to take the unit in for repair GULP I had no idea how expensive new welders that will do TIG and 300 amp are. My worry, and I've seen this happen, I get a call a few days later saying sorry can't fix your machine, the bill is $1000. BUT if you buy our new box for too much $ we'll forget about the repair bill. If you want to go new and cheap you might want to consider Everlast: I'm only looking at blue boxes. Karl You might want to consider the Everlast . Mine has performed extremely well for the nearly 2 years I've had it . And it was less than half the cost of blue or red . I think if I was buying a new machine but wanted to save some money it would be one of the Lincoln MP units. They are a programmable unit that does MIG, Flux core, DC TIG and stick all in one box. Been watching Jody playing with one and so far it seems to be a real nice machine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9WbwS54B-0 -- Steve W. |
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You might want to consider the Everlast . Mine has performed extremely well for the nearly 2 years I've had it . And it was less than half the cost of blue or red . I think if I was buying a new machine but wanted to save some money it would be one of the Lincoln MP units. They are a programmable unit that does MIG, Flux core, DC TIG and stick all in one box. Been watching Jody playing with one and so far it seems to be a real nice machine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9WbwS54B-0 A need AC TIG and soon. Got a stack of irrigation pipes in need of repair. A welder would be cheap and easy to find if I didn't need both high power stick and AC TIG Karl |
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On Wed, 27 May 2015 13:24:37 -0500
Karl Townsend wrote: snip A need AC TIG and soon. Got a stack of irrigation pipes in need of repair. A welder would be cheap and easy to find if I didn't need both high power stick and AC TIG I would get one of the inverter TIG machines that would do the aluminum work needed and watch for an old Miller DialArc AC/DC to turn up used. The two machines would back each other up for stick welding at least... I'd love to have an inverter TIG to play with but I don't really NEED one at this point in time. They cost a bit too much and I think they have a lot of electronic stuff inside that could crap out just sitting around unused... My old Solar (Century, Wards...) 295 amp stick box hasn't got much inside that can fail. And my Millermatic 200 MIG hasn't got a lot of electronic stuff but more than the Solar. It fires up though every time I ask it too even though it pretty much sits around nowadays. You might be able to use a MIG Gun for your aluminum repair. Can't remember if you got a MIG machine or not. It's nice having backups/choices when one of them acts up... -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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On Wed, 27 May 2015 13:24:37 -0500
Karl Townsend wrote: snip A need AC TIG and soon. Got a stack of irrigation pipes in need of repair. A welder would be cheap and easy to find if I didn't need both high power stick and AC TIG ESAB has some interesting stuff too. Maybe there Heliarc 281i would suit your fancy. Some discussion about where its made: === Thank you for your recent information request on the Heliarc 281i. The power supply for the Heliarc 281i is made in Italy. It is then assembled in the USA with additional parts i.e regular and tig torch that are manufactured in the USA as well. If you have any additional questions please let me know. Thanks, Bryan A. Braddock Inside Sales Representative Weldcall Technical Support ESAB Welding and Cutting Products Phone: 843-664-4281 Fax:803-753-9266 from: http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php...C-DC-Tig-stick === ESAB's own website: http://www.esabna.com/us/en/products...=11130& tab=1 -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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I'd love to have an inverter TIG to play with but I don't really NEED one at this point in time. They cost a bit too much and I think they have a lot of electronic stuff inside that could crap out just sitting around unused... My old Solar (Century, Wards...) 295 amp stick box hasn't got much inside that can fail. And my Millermatic 200 MIG hasn't got a lot of electronic stuff but more than the Solar. It fires up though every time I ask it too even though it pretty much sits around nowadays. I have a Miller 252 MIG welder. Wonderful machine. Have an AL spool gun for it. Works well for most AL work but not on irrigation pipe. You can't beat a TIG for weld control. If you are putting a weld-on female end onto a pipe section, you need MAX heat and a wife or son to hold the torch for preheat. Little welders just don't do it. I'm driving an hour each way to get a couple of these done on my son's welder - Syncrowave 250. he's offered to sell me his for $1800. i may take hime up. Karl |
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There's an auction with a dozen great welders in three weeks. Big commercial stuff, all blue boxes. I'll be ging home with one. Now, got to live three weeks without a welder. Hard for me. Karl |
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On Thu, 28 May 2015 12:24:16 -0500
Karl Townsend wrote: SAVED There's an auction with a dozen great welders in three weeks. Big commercial stuff, all blue boxes. I'll be ging home with one. Now, got to live three weeks without a welder. Hard for me. Oh come now, you've already admitted to having a nice MIG machine ;-) I guess it has a lot to do with what we are most comfortable with using. I feel/do best with the MIG but the stick welder is a lot easier to dig out and fire up... Just remembered that Jody put up a couple TIG videos in the past few weeks than may interest you. They are on using helium gas and how they can make a weak TIG machine weld heavier aluminum pieces than using just argon. Maybe you already know this... but if you want to watch: TIG Welding Thick Aluminum using DC and Helium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1dCZyH_NBI Tig Welding Aluminum with Argon Helium Mix part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhDvRJ7HZ6E Tig Welding Aluminum with Ar/He Mix part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhJy7SbtH6s Good luck with your bidding and let us know what you end up with. -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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On Thu, 28 May 2015 12:24:16 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote: SAVED There's an auction with a dozen great welders in three weeks. Big commercial stuff, all blue boxes. I'll be ging home with one. Now, got to live three weeks without a welder. Hard for me. A tiny violin is being played for you, Karl. Pobrecito! g -- In the depth of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer. -- Albert Camus |
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On Thu, 28 May 2015 13:54:05 -0400, Leon Fisk
wrote: On Thu, 28 May 2015 12:24:16 -0500 Karl Townsend wrote: SAVED There's an auction with a dozen great welders in three weeks. Big commercial stuff, all blue boxes. I'll be ging home with one. Now, got to live three weeks without a welder. Hard for me. Oh come now, you've already admitted to having a nice MIG machine ;-) I guess it has a lot to do with what we are most comfortable with using. I feel/do best with the MIG but the stick welder is a lot easier to dig out and fire up... Just remembered that Jody put up a couple TIG videos in the past few weeks than may interest you. They are on using helium gas and how they can make a weak TIG machine weld heavier aluminum pieces than using just argon. Maybe you already know this... but if you want to watch: TIG Welding Thick Aluminum using DC and Helium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1dCZyH_NBI Tig Welding Aluminum with Argon Helium Mix part 1 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhDvRJ7HZ6E Tig Welding Aluminum with Ar/He Mix part 2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhJy7SbtH6s Good luck with your bidding and let us know what you end up with. Indeed. Ive got a 350 amp squarewave tig machine (and a hot spare) that is my workhorse for tig. Ive welded 16x6" chunks of aluminum together with it..using a 1/4" Lanthanated tungsten and a Big! ass torch..and preheating with a rosebud. With Tri-mix. While wearing insulated coveralls..a leather apron, a leather coat and stick welding gloves. My power bill went up $40 bucks that month too. I could have put hotdogs on a stick around the welding area and had lunch afterwards. Not something I want to ever do again. Now I reserve that power level for welding with 3/8" 6011/7014 rod...seldom..very seldom....cant afford the power bill. Gunner |
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On Wed, 27 May 2015 15:41:25 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote: I'd love to have an inverter TIG to play with but I don't really NEED one at this point in time. They cost a bit too much and I think they have a lot of electronic stuff inside that could crap out just sitting around unused... My old Solar (Century, Wards...) 295 amp stick box hasn't got much inside that can fail. And my Millermatic 200 MIG hasn't got a lot of electronic stuff but more than the Solar. It fires up though every time I ask it too even though it pretty much sits around nowadays. I have a Miller 252 MIG welder. Wonderful machine. Have an AL spool gun for it. Works well for most AL work but not on irrigation pipe. You can't beat a TIG for weld control. If you are putting a weld-on female end onto a pipe section, you need MAX heat and a wife or son to hold the torch for preheat. Little welders just don't do it. I'm driving an hour each way to get a couple of these done on my son's welder - Syncrowave 250. he's offered to sell me his for $1800. i may take hime up. Karl If you can't speak, just nod yes to Jacob's synchrowave. You're need is urgent and related to bidness. Your tits-up Linc is probably repairable but you don't have time or inclination to mess around like a hobbyist might. That pot probably controls a saturable reactor. Since the pot seems to check good, the problem is probably either with the DC supply (rectifier diodes) for the saturable reactor, or a bad connection. It could be an open winding on the saturable reactor or a bad control transformer, but that'd be unlikely. The synchrowave is a very capable TIG machine. I don't think I'd trade my dinosaur Miller DialArc 250 for one because, while the newer machines have more bells and whistles, they also have more electronics and that's what usually fails -- and is very expensive to get fixed. I've had a couple of weldors tell me that when the boss changed out their DialArcs for Synchrowaves, they suddenly could no longer weld aluminum tanks without leaks. Just sayin' what I heard. The ol' DialArc is a 400-lb dinosaur, but it's reliable as gravity and does everything I wanna do. |
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On Sun, 24 May 2015 14:07:39 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote: Id also mention..that is one of the finest welders ever made. I see them in countless machine/welding shops..still chugging away 40 or more years since they were new. Spent four hours on it today, and got nowhere. thar's enough. I'm NOT an electrical repairman. You're right, this was a wonderful welder. I've had it 25 years. Thanks for trying to help the helpless. karl Well, don't scrap it yet. It ain't like you don't have room at your place for a busted machine. We can have a look at it some gunsmoke and good grub get-together day. Think you or Jacob might have any ideas about my oil-slingin' lathe spindle? |
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On Tue, 26 May 2015 20:46:20 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote: Karl, I am surprised at you. You own a welder for 25 years and say it was a wonderful welder. And then you say you are only looking at Blue Machines. Dan Lincoln made one hell of a good welder 40 years ago. their managment discovered China and cheap manufacturing and ran the name into the ground. DAMN shame but not an uncommon story. But your Linc was made when Linc and Miller led the field by a mile. |
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On Sun, 24 May 2015 14:09:12 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote: Ebayers and Craigslisters will buy anything. I just put it up on craigs list. waiting for the rash of idiot phone calls. Bet I'm sorry before its done. Think of it as your contribution to younger, smarter, willing-to-try guys who recognize value in a quality old machine that needs a bit of TLC. Give 'em a bargain, what the hell! It's our time of life to be giving back, right? You won't even notice the nick in your bottom line and it might be good for your karma. Think how good you'll feel when a deserving young guy or gal hauls it away, grinning, after paying you a pittance for it. It's the right thing to do, Karl. Bless you! |
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On Thu, 28 May 2015 12:24:16 -0500, Karl Townsend
wrote: SAVED There's an auction with a dozen great welders in three weeks. Big commercial stuff, all blue boxes. I'll be ging home with one. Now, got to live three weeks without a welder. Hard for me. Karl Ya wanna come get my DialArc 250 for 3 weeks? You'd owe me and Vicki, but offer's on the table. I can get by without TIG for 3 weeks. I still have MIG and gas. Hell, I always have gas -- Vicki will vouch for that! I'm not kidding, Karl; if you wanna borrow my DialArc 250 for three weeks or so, come 'n get it. You're about the only guy I'd trust with it -- like you trusted me to put hands on your beloved Monarch 10EE. |
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