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On Sunday, May 24, 2015 at 3:07:42 PM UTC-4, Karl Townsend wrote:
Id also mention..that is one of the finest welders ever made. I see
them in countless machine/welding shops..still chugging away 40 or
more years since they were new.


Spent four hours on it today, and got nowhere. thar's enough. I'm NOT
an electrical repairman.

You're right, this was a wonderful welder. I've had it 25 years.

Thanks for trying to help the helpless.

karl


Karl, I am surprised at you. You own a welder for 25 years and say it was a wonderful welder. And then you say you are only looking at Blue Machines.

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Karl, I am surprised at you. You own a welder for 25 years and say it was a wonderful welder. And then you say you are only looking at Blue Machines.

Dan


Lincoln made one hell of a good welder 40 years ago.

their managment discovered China and cheap manufacturing and ran the
name into the ground. DAMN shame but not an uncommon story.

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On Tuesday, May 26, 2015 at 9:46:30 PM UTC-4, Karl Townsend wrote:

Lincoln made one hell of a good welder 40 years ago.

their managment discovered China and cheap manufacturing and ran the
name into the ground. DAMN shame but not an uncommon story.


Just be cautious about buying a Miller Econotig. The current ones may be better , but the older ones are not too good. When I was shopping for a Tig welder, the manager of the welding store I frequented told me to avoid the Econotig. His store was a Miller dealership.

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Karl Townsend wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2015 10:24:26 -0400, Leon Fisk
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On Tue, 26 May 2015 05:41:47 -0500
Karl Townsend wrote:

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I'm going to have to take the unit in for repair GULP I had no
idea how expensive new welders that will do TIG and 300 amp are. My
worry, and I've seen this happen, I get a call a few days later
saying sorry can't fix your machine, the bill is $1000. BUT if you
buy our new box for too much $ we'll forget about the repair bill.


If you want to go new and cheap you might want to consider Everlast:



I'm only looking at blue boxes.

Karl


You might want to consider the Everlast . Mine has performed extremely
well for the nearly 2 years I've had it . And it was less than half the cost
of blue or red .

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Karl Townsend wrote:
On Tue, 26 May 2015 10:24:26 -0400, Leon Fisk
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On Tue, 26 May 2015 05:41:47 -0500
Karl Townsend wrote:

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I'm going to have to take the unit in for repair GULP I had no
idea how expensive new welders that will do TIG and 300 amp are. My
worry, and I've seen this happen, I get a call a few days later
saying sorry can't fix your machine, the bill is $1000. BUT if you
buy our new box for too much $ we'll forget about the repair bill.
If you want to go new and cheap you might want to consider Everlast:


I'm only looking at blue boxes.

Karl


You might want to consider the Everlast . Mine has performed extremely
well for the nearly 2 years I've had it . And it was less than half the cost
of blue or red .


I think if I was buying a new machine but wanted to save some money it
would be one of the Lincoln MP units. They are a programmable unit that
does MIG, Flux core, DC TIG and stick all in one box.

Been watching Jody playing with one and so far it seems to be a real
nice machine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9WbwS54B-0

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You might want to consider the Everlast . Mine has performed extremely
well for the nearly 2 years I've had it . And it was less than half the cost
of blue or red .


I think if I was buying a new machine but wanted to save some money it
would be one of the Lincoln MP units. They are a programmable unit that
does MIG, Flux core, DC TIG and stick all in one box.

Been watching Jody playing with one and so far it seems to be a real
nice machine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9WbwS54B-0


A need AC TIG and soon. Got a stack of irrigation pipes in need of
repair. A welder would be cheap and easy to find if I didn't need both
high power stick and AC TIG

Karl
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A need AC TIG and soon. Got a stack of irrigation pipes in need of
repair. A welder would be cheap and easy to find if I didn't need both
high power stick and AC TIG


I would get one of the inverter TIG machines that would do the aluminum
work needed and watch for an old Miller DialArc AC/DC to turn up used.
The two machines would back each other up for stick welding at least...

I'd love to have an inverter TIG to play with but I don't really NEED
one at this point in time. They cost a bit too much and I think they
have a lot of electronic stuff inside that could crap out just sitting
around unused... My old Solar (Century, Wards...) 295 amp stick box
hasn't got much inside that can fail. And my Millermatic 200 MIG
hasn't got a lot of electronic stuff but more than the Solar. It fires
up though every time I ask it too even though it pretty much sits
around nowadays.

You might be able to use a MIG Gun for your aluminum repair. Can't
remember if you got a MIG machine or not. It's nice having
backups/choices when one of them acts up...

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On Wed, 27 May 2015 13:24:37 -0500
Karl Townsend wrote:

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A need AC TIG and soon. Got a stack of irrigation pipes in need of
repair. A welder would be cheap and easy to find if I didn't need both
high power stick and AC TIG


ESAB has some interesting stuff too. Maybe there Heliarc 281i would suit
your fancy. Some discussion about where its made:

===
Thank you for your recent information request on the Heliarc 281i. The
power supply for the Heliarc 281i is made in Italy. It is then
assembled in the USA with additional parts i.e regular and tig torch
that are manufactured in the USA as well. If you have any additional
questions please let me know.

Thanks,

Bryan A. Braddock
Inside Sales Representative
Weldcall Technical Support
ESAB Welding and Cutting Products
Phone: 843-664-4281
Fax:803-753-9266


from:

http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php...C-DC-Tig-stick
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ESAB's own website:

http://www.esabna.com/us/en/products...=11130& tab=1

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I'd love to have an inverter TIG to play with but I don't really NEED
one at this point in time. They cost a bit too much and I think they
have a lot of electronic stuff inside that could crap out just sitting
around unused... My old Solar (Century, Wards...) 295 amp stick box
hasn't got much inside that can fail. And my Millermatic 200 MIG
hasn't got a lot of electronic stuff but more than the Solar. It fires
up though every time I ask it too even though it pretty much sits
around nowadays.



I have a Miller 252 MIG welder. Wonderful machine. Have an AL spool
gun for it. Works well for most AL work but not on irrigation pipe.
You can't beat a TIG for weld control. If you are putting a weld-on
female end onto a pipe section, you need MAX heat and a wife or son to
hold the torch for preheat. Little welders just don't do it.

I'm driving an hour each way to get a couple of these done on my son's
welder - Syncrowave 250. he's offered to sell me his for $1800. i may
take hime up.

Karl
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SAVED

There's an auction with a dozen great welders in three weeks. Big
commercial stuff, all blue boxes. I'll be ging home with one.

Now, got to live three weeks without a welder. Hard for me.

Karl



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