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On 3/15/2015 1:14 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
After Leonard Nimoy died MeTV ran Mission Impossible, Twilight Zone, Get Smart etc episodes he'd been in. I was more impressed with him as Spock than any of the others, including recently as William Bell on Fringe. I talked to him backstage after his one-man stage play based on Vincent Van Gogh's letters, which I'd read, and managed to discuss his other work without ever mentioning Star Trek. Somehow his presence in Boston hadn't been noticed by Trekkies, my GF and I were his only visitors that day. Nimoy was also in one episode of the "The Man from UNCLE" in a minor role as a henchman. The guest star of that episode was Shatner. David |
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Karl Townsend wrote:
On Sat, 14 Mar 2015 22:58:44 -0500, Martin Eastburn wrote: Sounds like you don't know the art of movies. We watch some several times a year and some every year and some several times a season. Well, we have more movies than most rental places have. We see things we missed a dozen times before. Some are important and are not known until the end of the movie. Second time you see hints and have a deeper thought about the movie. Some guys watch only the fights. Some watch the art of film making. Martin Glad to know I'm not the only one. I also like to watch how an actor matures over the years. Like a Sean Connery with a bit part in Longest day, or Harrison Ford small part in Apocalypse Now, many others. I know I've watched every Clint Eastwood a dozen times, pretty much the same with John Wayne. Many many others too. I don't sleep at night, watch three movies a night most every day. karl http://viooz.ac/ |
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"David R. Birch" wrote in message
... On 3/15/2015 1:14 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote: After Leonard Nimoy died MeTV ran Mission Impossible, Twilight Zone, Get Smart etc episodes he'd been in. I was more impressed with him as Spock than any of the others, including recently as William Bell on Fringe. I talked to him backstage after his one-man stage play based on Vincent Van Gogh's letters, which I'd read, and managed to discuss his other work without ever mentioning Star Trek. Somehow his presence in Boston hadn't been noticed by Trekkies, my GF and I were his only visitors that day. Nimoy was also in one episode of the "The Man from UNCLE" in a minor role as a henchman. The guest star of that episode was Shatner. David I just backed up and checked that recording a minute ago. The villain was Werner Klemperer (Col. Klink). -jsw |
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 10:00:33 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . Oh, and whoever told Hollywood to show every dramatic scene in previews all in a row in 40 seconds? Y'know, scenes which took 10 minutes just to build up suspense? The sheeple don't care, but we do. My usual reaction is "if those are the best parts I'm not paying to watch the rest". Yeah, the preview of the hoarse scream under the waterfall (by Daniel Day Lewis in Last of the Mohicans) nearly kept me from watching what turned out to be a very good movie. -jsw, once a techie on a film crew. Status! -- However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. -- Sir Winston Churchill |
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On 03/15/2015 01:14 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
After Leonard Nimoy died MeTV ran Mission Impossible, Twilight Zone, Get Smart etc episodes he'd been in. I was more impressed with him as Spock than any of the others, including recently as William Bell on Fringe. Did they show the episode of Highway Patrol (starring Broderick Crawford) where Leonard Nimoy was a gun-toting heavy? technomaNge -- A minor roll, but still..... |
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technomaNge wrote: On 03/15/2015 01:14 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote: After Leonard Nimoy died MeTV ran Mission Impossible, Twilight Zone, Get Smart etc episodes he'd been in. I was more impressed with him as Spock than any of the others, including recently as William Bell on Fringe. Did they show the episode of Highway Patrol (starring Broderick Crawford) where Leonard Nimoy was a gun-toting heavy? I didn't think they were running Highway Patrol these days and I don't see it listed. http://metvnetwork.com/shows/ They can't run it if they don't have the rights. BTW, Thank you, I got the package. I haven't been on the group for a while, due to all the trips to the VA wound clinic. The long days of travel leave me exhausted. At least I'm no longer waking myself up with my screaming in pain, and catching myself about to roll out of bed from the muscle spasms. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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"technomaNge" wrote in message
... On 03/15/2015 01:14 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote: After Leonard Nimoy died MeTV ran Mission Impossible, Twilight Zone, Get Smart etc episodes he'd been in. I was more impressed with him as Spock than any of the others, including recently as William Bell on Fringe. Did they show the episode of Highway Patrol (starring Broderick Crawford) where Leonard Nimoy was a gun-toting heavy? technomaNge -- A minor roll, but still..... Dunno, I stopped watching after 1 AM. |
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 22:56:51 -0500, Martin Eastburn
wrote: And if war breaks out, a supply that is safe. Remember the tanker issue with Japan - take them out and the boats stop. Planes stop and back then even the trains. Coal was the best then oil. Oil then was for the war. East Texas was drained rather deeply sending it to the East in the Big and little 'Inch' pipelines. All tax free. Texas got nothing from it. Keystone is an independence key point. Martin On 3/15/2015 6:23 AM, wrote: On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 11:46:03 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: As far as Keystone goes, I am absolutely against it. It's not our oil and it's not being sold to us, so why endanger our fresh water for it? The Canadian oil is going to be produced regardless of whether a pipeline is built or not. If no pipeline is built it will be transported to Vancouver, Canada and shipped on Tankers from there. Shipping by rail car is more dangerous and costly than shipping by pipeline. They why aren't they building their own pipeline in their own country? Or, why aren't we using short runs of pipe and building refineries in Montana, etc. so it could be refined here in the US instead? That would do us some good, drop the price of gas, keep the oil safe and available, etc. If the keystone pipeline is built, some of the money will come to the U.S. as fees for using the pipeline. And more of the money will come to the U.S. as the refining will be done in the U.S. In addition the refined oil could be sent by pipeline to the East Coast. So even if the refined oil is shipped over seas by tanker, it will mean that the costs of gasoline and heating oil will be slightly less in the U.S. I thought all the refining would be done elsewhere; all we got were the labor charges for building it and a pittance for flowing it. BUT, if the US has so much refining capacity, why are they closing refineries everywhere over the past 2+ decades? Answer: They keep the price of gas up by pinching off the refining capacity. If anything, the Canadian glut will raise them even more. How does that suit anyone but the oil companies and their refineries? Not building the Keystone Pipeline will not mean that the oil will not be used and will not keep the CO2 out of the atmosphere. snort As if... -- However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. -- Sir Winston Churchill |
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On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 06:05:49 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: technomaNge wrote: On 03/15/2015 01:14 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote: After Leonard Nimoy died MeTV ran Mission Impossible, Twilight Zone, Get Smart etc episodes he'd been in. I was more impressed with him as Spock than any of the others, including recently as William Bell on Fringe. Did they show the episode of Highway Patrol (starring Broderick Crawford) where Leonard Nimoy was a gun-toting heavy? I didn't think they were running Highway Patrol these days and I don't see it listed. http://metvnetwork.com/shows/ They can't run it if they don't have the rights. BTW, Thank you, I got the package. I haven't been on the group for a while, due to all the trips to the VA wound clinic. The long days of travel leave me exhausted. At least I'm no longer waking myself up with my screaming in pain, and catching myself about to roll out of bed from the muscle spasms. Egad! Welcome back. I wondered where you'd gone, not having seen a post from you in a coon's age. Condolences on the pain. That has to be the absolute suckiest portion of our human existence. How'd the VA fix ya? New meds (hopefully) or (eek) procedures? -- However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. -- Sir Winston Churchill |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
... On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 22:56:51 -0500, Martin Eastburn wrote: And if war breaks out, a supply that is safe. Remember the tanker issue with Japan - take them out and the boats stop. Planes stop and back then even the trains. Coal was the best then oil. Oil then was for the war. East Texas was drained rather deeply sending it to the East in the Big and little 'Inch' pipelines. All tax free. Texas got nothing from it. Keystone is an independence key point. Martin On 3/15/2015 6:23 AM, wrote: On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 11:46:03 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: As far as Keystone goes, I am absolutely against it. It's not our oil and it's not being sold to us, so why endanger our fresh water for it? The Canadian oil is going to be produced regardless of whether a pipeline is built or not. If no pipeline is built it will be transported to Vancouver, Canada and shipped on Tankers from there. Shipping by rail car is more dangerous and costly than shipping by pipeline. They why aren't they building their own pipeline in their own country? Or, why aren't we using short runs of pipe and building refineries in Montana, etc. so it could be refined here in the US instead? That would do us some good, drop the price of gas, keep the oil safe and available, etc. If the keystone pipeline is built, some of the money will come to the U.S. as fees for using the pipeline. And more of the money will come to the U.S. as the refining will be done in the U.S. In addition the refined oil could be sent by pipeline to the East Coast. So even if the refined oil is shipped over seas by tanker, it will mean that the costs of gasoline and heating oil will be slightly less in the U.S. I thought all the refining would be done elsewhere; all we got were the labor charges for building it and a pittance for flowing it. BUT, if the US has so much refining capacity, why are they closing refineries everywhere over the past 2+ decades? Answer: They keep the price of gas up by pinching off the refining capacity. If anything, the Canadian glut will raise them even more. How does that suit anyone but the oil companies and their refineries? Not building the Keystone Pipeline will not mean that the oil will not be used and will not keep the CO2 out of the atmosphere. snort As if... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keystone_Pipeline |
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Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 06:05:49 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: technomaNge wrote: On 03/15/2015 01:14 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote: After Leonard Nimoy died MeTV ran Mission Impossible, Twilight Zone, Get Smart etc episodes he'd been in. I was more impressed with him as Spock than any of the others, including recently as William Bell on Fringe. Did they show the episode of Highway Patrol (starring Broderick Crawford) where Leonard Nimoy was a gun-toting heavy? I didn't think they were running Highway Patrol these days and I don't see it listed. http://metvnetwork.com/shows/ They can't run it if they don't have the rights. BTW, Thank you, I got the package. I haven't been on the group for a while, due to all the trips to the VA wound clinic. The long days of travel leave me exhausted. At least I'm no longer waking myself up with my screaming in pain, and catching myself about to roll out of bed from the muscle spasms. Egad! Welcome back. I wondered where you'd gone, not having seen a post from you in a coon's age. Condolences on the pain. That has to be the absolute suckiest portion of our human existence. How'd the VA fix ya? New meds (hopefully) or (eek) procedures? Thanks. I was spending a little time on Facebook, to catch up on friends who don't know what Usenet is, or have no access to it. I have been making trips there since around last Veteran's day. They have a wound clinic, and use things like Santyl in the deep ulcers. A 30 gram tube of the stuff is over $250, They use some silver bearing pads, and at first they used some special foam pads to adsorb the drainage. Then everything was covered with a soft cast, for a week at a time. The wound was a long thin line. It is now two smaller, and shallow wounds that they covered with skin grafts. They didn't give me anything for the pain, of course. I was told by one VA nurse that being in enough pain to consider taking your legs off with a chain saw was only a '3' on a scale from 1 to 10. I called her 'Nurse Ratched'. She was also they PITA that insisted that no one could figure out how to use a Glucose meter, without sitting through their class. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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Jim Wilkins wrote: I grouped the devices that most need isolation into one coax panel for outdoor antennas and cameras and two accessible outlet strips, one for the stereo rack and the other for the computer bench, so I can react quickly to thunder. After lightning hit the tower at a CATV headend, I cleaned up the mess made by the unskilled who wired the place. I used a spare aluminum rack panel, and drilled a row of 3/8" holes in it. Then I installed a row of F81 bulkhead adapters to connect all of the antenna lines from the tower. The plate was connected to the headend grounding system. I also replaced all of the audio wiring with Belden foil & drain shielded wire. We never had a problem, after that. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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On Monday, March 16, 2015 at 11:37:34 AM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote:
They why aren't they building their own pipeline in their own country? Or, why aren't we using short runs of pipe and building refineries in Montana, etc. so it could be refined here in the US instead? That would do us some good, drop the price of gas, keep the oil safe and available, etc. They may end up building a pipeline to the West Coast if the Keystone one is not approved. The Keystone pipeline is intended to connect to existing pipelines in the U.S. so the oil could be sent to Texas and refined there. So a lot of the needed pipeline already exists. There are already refineries in Texas. Building more refineries would raise more hate and discontent than building the pipeline. I thought all the refining would be done elsewhere; all we got were the labor charges for building it and a pittance for flowing it. BUT, if the US has so much refining capacity, why are they closing refineries everywhere over the past 2+ decades? Answer: They keep the price of gas up by pinching off the refining capacity. If anything, the Canadian glut will raise them even more. How does that suit anyone but the oil companies and their refineries? They close some refineries because they are old and it would be expensive to upgrade them to current technology. If you already have a refinery it is easier to get permits to enlarge it than to get a permit to build a new one. Dan Not building the Keystone Pipeline will not mean that the oil will not be used and will not keep the CO2 out of the atmosphere. snort As if... -- However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. -- Sir Winston Churchill |
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On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:41:39 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: wrote: That's why I LOVE underground electrical distribution. Storms don't take down the lines, and lighting can't find the wires to deliver a direct hit. I use on-line (dual conversion) UPS for my sensitive electronics (computers) I had a strike on my barn, years ago. The electric lines ran underground, to the power pole, near the house. It got into the phone line, and vaporized the wire all the way to the street, a mile away. It destroyed the SLIC in the pedestal, and made it over five miles into the CO, in town. It also damaged a computer monitor that had the cables disconnected, and wrapped around the base of the monitor. It fried the C-band TV system, a TV, a stereo and one of my computers. The closest "above ground" electrical wire to my place is almost 2 miles away, with half a dozen transformers in vaults between here and there to "catch" the surge and dump it to ground before it gets here. The dual conversion UPS looks after what's left. (we are in Ontario's "thunder alley" so we get lot's of lightning storms.) |
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On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:27:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 06:05:49 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: technomaNge wrote: On 03/15/2015 01:14 PM, Jim Wilkins wrote: After Leonard Nimoy died MeTV ran Mission Impossible, Twilight Zone, Get Smart etc episodes he'd been in. I was more impressed with him as Spock than any of the others, including recently as William Bell on Fringe. Did they show the episode of Highway Patrol (starring Broderick Crawford) where Leonard Nimoy was a gun-toting heavy? I didn't think they were running Highway Patrol these days and I don't see it listed. http://metvnetwork.com/shows/ They can't run it if they don't have the rights. BTW, Thank you, I got the package. I haven't been on the group for a while, due to all the trips to the VA wound clinic. The long days of travel leave me exhausted. At least I'm no longer waking myself up with my screaming in pain, and catching myself about to roll out of bed from the muscle spasms. Egad! Welcome back. I wondered where you'd gone, not having seen a post from you in a coon's age. Condolences on the pain. That has to be the absolute suckiest portion of our human existence. How'd the VA fix ya? New meds (hopefully) or (eek) procedures? Thanks. I was spending a little time on Facebook, to catch up on friends who don't know what Usenet is, or have no access to it. Well, good. I have been making trips there since around last Veteran's day. They have a wound clinic, and use things like Santyl in the deep ulcers. A 30 gram tube of the stuff is over $250, They use some silver bearing pads, and at first they used some special foam pads to adsorb the drainage. Then everything was covered with a soft cast, for a week at a time. Sounds nasty, but I'm sure it was nice once you got the meds on. The wound was a long thin line. It is now two smaller, and shallow wounds that they covered with skin grafts. They didn't give me anything for the pain, of course. I was told by one VA nurse that being in enough pain to consider taking your legs off with a chain saw was only a '3' on a scale from 1 to 10. I called her 'Nurse Ratched'. What a beeyotch! She was also they PITA that insisted that no one could figure out how to use a Glucose meter, without sitting through their class. After having _used_ one several times daily for 30 years, eh? sigh -- However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. -- Sir Winston Churchill |
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On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:41:39 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
wrote: That's why I LOVE underground electrical distribution. Storms don't take down the lines, and lighting can't find the wires to deliver a direct hit. I use on-line (dual conversion) UPS for my sensitive electronics (computers) I had a strike on my barn, years ago. The electric lines ran underground, to the power pole, near the house. It got into the phone line, and vaporized the wire all the way to the street, a mile away. It destroyed the SLIC in the pedestal, and made it over five miles into the CO, in town. It also damaged a computer monitor that had the cables disconnected, and wrapped around the base of the monitor. It fried the C-band TV system, a TV, a stereo and one of my computers. That sounds like one hell of a lightning strike! -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com |
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Remember the cold war kept 1/3 of the planes in the air at a time.
That is a lot of gas. Most Air force bases were served by 3 refineries. It allowed on to go down for repair and used 1 or 2. Now with a lot of the aircraft in mothballs, and the replacements are fewer with less flights, we have fewer refineries... Navy down, down, down, ....down in size. Less fuel oil, gasoline and jet fuel needed on the fleets. Let WWIII really break out - as it isn't - trade lines are in danger, either from the sender or the route taken. Look at the crazy pirates working the tankers and ships now and they are small fry. Not a navy with work to do. And Keystone has branches to the central time zone already. Just none to make OK to send Oklahoma sands down here as well as Canada. Martin On 3/16/2015 10:37 AM, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sun, 15 Mar 2015 22:56:51 -0500, Martin Eastburn wrote: And if war breaks out, a supply that is safe. Remember the tanker issue with Japan - take them out and the boats stop. Planes stop and back then even the trains. Coal was the best then oil. Oil then was for the war. East Texas was drained rather deeply sending it to the East in the Big and little 'Inch' pipelines. All tax free. Texas got nothing from it. Keystone is an independence key point. Martin On 3/15/2015 6:23 AM, wrote: On Saturday, March 14, 2015 at 11:46:03 PM UTC-4, Larry Jaques wrote: As far as Keystone goes, I am absolutely against it. It's not our oil and it's not being sold to us, so why endanger our fresh water for it? The Canadian oil is going to be produced regardless of whether a pipeline is built or not. If no pipeline is built it will be transported to Vancouver, Canada and shipped on Tankers from there. Shipping by rail car is more dangerous and costly than shipping by pipeline. They why aren't they building their own pipeline in their own country? Or, why aren't we using short runs of pipe and building refineries in Montana, etc. so it could be refined here in the US instead? That would do us some good, drop the price of gas, keep the oil safe and available, etc. If the keystone pipeline is built, some of the money will come to the U.S. as fees for using the pipeline. And more of the money will come to the U.S. as the refining will be done in the U.S. In addition the refined oil could be sent by pipeline to the East Coast. So even if the refined oil is shipped over seas by tanker, it will mean that the costs of gasoline and heating oil will be slightly less in the U.S. I thought all the refining would be done elsewhere; all we got were the labor charges for building it and a pittance for flowing it. BUT, if the US has so much refining capacity, why are they closing refineries everywhere over the past 2+ decades? Answer: They keep the price of gas up by pinching off the refining capacity. If anything, the Canadian glut will raise them even more. How does that suit anyone but the oil companies and their refineries? Not building the Keystone Pipeline will not mean that the oil will not be used and will not keep the CO2 out of the atmosphere. snort As if... -- However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look at the results. -- Sir Winston Churchill |
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Tim Wescott wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:41:39 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote: wrote: That's why I LOVE underground electrical distribution. Storms don't take down the lines, and lighting can't find the wires to deliver a direct hit. I use on-line (dual conversion) UPS for my sensitive electronics (computers) I had a strike on my barn, years ago. The electric lines ran underground, to the power pole, near the house. It got into the phone line, and vaporized the wire all the way to the street, a mile away. It destroyed the SLIC in the pedestal, and made it over five miles into the CO, in town. It also damaged a computer monitor that had the cables disconnected, and wrapped around the base of the monitor. It fried the C-band TV system, a TV, a stereo and one of my computers. That sounds like one hell of a lightning strike! I had a battery powered digital thermometer explode. It wasn't connected to anything. The power went off during another storm, and it was raining so hard that I would have never made it from my shop to the house in the water running down that hill. So, I was inside a windowless building that was light most of the time by light that leaked in around the steel doors. When the storm ended, the news reported over 1100 strikes in under a half hour. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:27:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: She was also the PITA that insisted that no one could figure out how to use a Glucose meter, without sitting through their class. After having _used_ one several times daily for 30 years, eh? sigh That was my first, but I had taught my dad to use three different models over the years. They had canceled that class time after time, yet complained that I wasn't testing my glucose levels. She got really ****ed when I told her that I knew engineers that designed the medical equipment they used. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 22:50:48 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:41:39 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: wrote: That's why I LOVE underground electrical distribution. Storms don't take down the lines, and lighting can't find the wires to deliver a direct hit. I use on-line (dual conversion) UPS for my sensitive electronics (computers) I had a strike on my barn, years ago. The electric lines ran underground, to the power pole, near the house. It got into the phone line, and vaporized the wire all the way to the street, a mile away. It destroyed the SLIC in the pedestal, and made it over five miles into the CO, in town. It also damaged a computer monitor that had the cables disconnected, and wrapped around the base of the monitor. It fried the C-band TV system, a TV, a stereo and one of my computers. The closest "above ground" electrical wire to my place is almost 2 miles away, with half a dozen transformers in vaults between here and there to "catch" the surge and dump it to ground before it gets here. The dual conversion UPS looks after what's left. (we are in Ontario's "thunder alley" so we get lot's of lightning storms.) Do you have a 300 foot tower to deal with? Where in my description would that fit in??? Yes, the high tension wiring is on tall steel towers. The street lamps are on steel or re-enforced concrete poles. There are cell and radio towers around - but none of them have any influence on our local power distribution, phone, or cable. |
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 23:32:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 22:50:48 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:41:39 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: wrote: That's why I LOVE underground electrical distribution. Storms don't take down the lines, and lighting can't find the wires to deliver a direct hit. I use on-line (dual conversion) UPS for my sensitive electronics (computers) I had a strike on my barn, years ago. The electric lines ran underground, to the power pole, near the house. It got into the phone line, and vaporized the wire all the way to the street, a mile away. It destroyed the SLIC in the pedestal, and made it over five miles into the CO, in town. It also damaged a computer monitor that had the cables disconnected, and wrapped around the base of the monitor. It fried the C-band TV system, a TV, a stereo and one of my computers. The closest "above ground" electrical wire to my place is almost 2 miles away, with half a dozen transformers in vaults between here and there to "catch" the surge and dump it to ground before it gets here. The dual conversion UPS looks after what's left. (we are in Ontario's "thunder alley" so we get lot's of lightning storms.) Do you have a 300 foot tower to deal with? Where in my description would that fit in??? Yes, the high tension wiring is on tall steel towers. The street lamps are on steel or re-enforced concrete poles. There are cell and radio towers around - but none of them have any influence on our local power distribution, phone, or cable. That was to do with the strike at the CATV headend. BTW, that service was underground. CATV technology has changed - and I'm about 20Km from the "cable head" Now if it struck the distribution box in the neighbour's back yard (2 foot high metal box) with the cover off, my TV would definitely know about it. |
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 23:01:38 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:27:18 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: She was also the PITA that insisted that no one could figure out how to use a Glucose meter, without sitting through their class. After having _used_ one several times daily for 30 years, eh? sigh That was my first, but I had taught my dad to use three different models over the years. They had canceled that class time after time, yet complained that I wasn't testing my glucose levels. She got really ****ed when I told her that I knew engineers that designed the medical equipment they used. I don't doubt it. How could that possibly affect her ego, um, I mean brilliance? -- Always bear in mind that your own resolution to succeed is more important than any one thing. -- Abraham Lincoln |
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2015 22:53:54 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Tim Wescott wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 14:41:39 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote: wrote: That's why I LOVE underground electrical distribution. Storms don't take down the lines, and lighting can't find the wires to deliver a direct hit. I use on-line (dual conversion) UPS for my sensitive electronics (computers) I had a strike on my barn, years ago. The electric lines ran underground, to the power pole, near the house. It got into the phone line, and vaporized the wire all the way to the street, a mile away. It destroyed the SLIC in the pedestal, and made it over five miles into the CO, in town. It also damaged a computer monitor that had the cables disconnected, and wrapped around the base of the monitor. It fried the C-band TV system, a TV, a stereo and one of my computers. That sounds like one hell of a lightning strike! I had a battery powered digital thermometer explode. It wasn't connected to anything. The power went off during another storm, and it was raining so hard that I would have never made it from my shop to the house in the water running down that hill. So, I was inside a windowless building that was light most of the time by light that leaked in around the steel doors. When the storm ended, the news reported over 1100 strikes in under a half hour. EMP "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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I had a strike on my barn, years ago. The electric lines ran underground, to the power pole, near the house. It got into the phone line, and vaporized the wire all the way to the street, a mile away. It destroyed the SLIC in the pedestal, and made it over five miles into the CO, in town. It also damaged a computer monitor that had the cables disconnected, and wrapped around the base of the monitor. It fried the C-band TV system, a TV, a stereo and one of my computers. Sorry, didn't read your post till now. I have underground from the hiway to my house , 200 years on the primary or high side. All underground on the secondary (low voltage) around my property. Lightning took out all the computers on the place last summer. That's the reason for this thread. karl |
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I have underground from the hiway to my house , 200 years on the damn auto speel check YARDS |
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