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Welp! Today I had a bunch of 20% off coupons ready to expired, so I put on my plaid long sleeve shirt, dark glasses and camouflaged cap, went in and bought a nice drill. Then went back to the car, changed shirts, took off the cap and sunglasses, went back in and bought a nice saw. Then went back out, took off the shirt and went back in my tee shirt and a floppy hat and bought a tarp. I still had coupons but ran out of clothes.
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"Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" wrote in message ...
Welp! Today I had a bunch of 20% off coupons ready to expired, so I put on my plaid long sleeve shirt, dark glasses and camouflaged cap, went in and bought a nice drill. Then went back to the car, changed shirts, took off the cap and sunglasses, went back in and bought a nice saw. Then went back out, took off the shirt and went back in my tee shirt and a floppy hat and bought a tarp. I still had coupons but ran out of clothes. $5 says that both tools break within a year. Tomorrow is the expiration date. I plan to wear bicycle shorts underneath some overalls, a raincoat and a poncho. |
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On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 19:48:18 -0800, "Snuffy \"Hub Cap\" McKinney"
wrote: Welp! Today I had a bunch of 20% off coupons ready to expired, so I put on my plaid long sleeve shirt, dark glasses and camouflaged cap, went in and bought a nice drill. Then went back to the car, changed shirts, took off the cap and sunglasses, went back in and bought a nice saw. Then went back out, took off the shirt and went back in my tee shirt and a floppy hat and bought a tarp. I still had coupons but ran out of clothes. No need for clothes changes. I take handfuls of coupons in every time I shop there, plus I have the Inside Track Club card. For redeeming multiple 20% coups, I do try to change checkers, though, JIC. $5 says that both tools break within a year. What saw and what drill? I may take you up on that bet. One caveat on the drills. They don't like to do low-speed hi-torque work. Mine smelled really bad the first time I did that, but it's still kicking. Another thing, check the brushes are seated on any replaceable-brush motor you get from them. One brush on a brand new chop saw didn't fare well and it smoked the motor on the third, harder cut. -- A sound mind in a sound body is a short but full description of a happy state in this world. -- John Locke |
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On Tue, 17 Feb 2015 19:50:45 -0800, "Snuffy \"Hub Cap\" McKinney"
wrote: "Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" Izzat you, frnak? wrote in message ... Welp! Today I had a bunch of 20% off coupons ready to expired, so I put on my plaid long sleeve shirt, dark glasses and camouflaged cap, went in and bought a nice drill. Then went back to the car, changed shirts, took off the cap and sunglasses, went back in and bought a nice saw. Then went back out, took off the shirt and went back in my tee shirt and a floppy hat and bought a tarp. I still had coupons but ran out of clothes. $5 says that both tools break within a year. Tomorrow is the expiration date. I plan to wear bicycle shorts underneath some overalls, a raincoat and a poncho. I find that trying to buy the tools when on sale is an even better deal, usually 35-50% off. I toss a single 20-percenter on top for good measure, and they usually fly. The downside is that I get daily emails from HFT. I did get the $299 airless paint sprayer for $135 that way, though. And the $299 12" SCMS for $159. And the $229 3hp (searz) compressor for $143. Everything goes on sale at least once a year, so I can usually afford to wait. 20% coupons come to me through 3 sources (mags, newspaper, email daily), monthly, so I generally have one or more to use at any given time. I buy my hard-daily-use name-brand tools elsewhere, like Amazon and HD. -- A sound mind in a sound body is a short but full description of a happy state in this world. -- John Locke |
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On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 12:55:48 AM UTC-5, amdx wrote:
On 2/17/2015 9:53 PM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote: "Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" wrote in message ... "Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" wrote in message ... Welp! Today I had a bunch of 20% off coupons ready to expired, so I put on my plaid long sleeve shirt, dark glasses and camouflaged cap, went in and bought a nice drill. Then went back to the car, changed shirts, took off the cap and sunglasses, went back in and bought a nice saw. Then went back out, took off the shirt and went back in my tee shirt and a floppy hat and bought a tarp. I still had coupons but ran out of clothes. $5 says that both tools break within a year. Tomorrow is the expiration date. I plan to wear bicycle shorts underneath some overalls, a raincoat and a poncho. Anybody know if thrift stores still carry wigs? I keep looking at that compound sliding miter saw that goes on sale for $89. I have a miter saw and a radial arm, but that compound sliding miter saw would be handy on occasion. I just now note they have 3 versions. With some differences in miter capacity and bevel cut capacity and RPM. It seems the laser guide has the least capacity. I'm glad I noticed this, I don't want to see the low capacity unit go on sale and me jump on it then find out the limited capacity. http://www.harborfreight.com/10-in-c...tem-61973.html http://www.harborfreight.com/10-in-s...saw-61307.html http://www.harborfreight.com/10-inch...saw-98199.html We just recently got a store opened in our city. My wife went shopping there and bought some wheels for a cart, she even got the free multimeter as a gift for me! Really? As an electrical instructor, are you even the slightest bit worried about using a cheap multimeter? |
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 08:30:54 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: fired this volley in : Really? As an electrical instructor, are you even the slightest bit worried about using a cheap multimeter? That's sort of a 'mixed bag'. I would never use one of those myself, except to get a quick check of the meter itself, to verify it was _reasonably_ accurate. However, I install equipment for folks who are not usually technically- competent at fixing equipment (being competent at making things that go "BANG", instead), and there are sometimes things I can do "with their hands" over the phone to help trouble-shoot problems. If they don't even own an instrument, I'll pick up one of those to leave with them (checking it first, of course), just so I don't have to pick up my car keys every time the phone rings. LLoyd I used to buy the HF $2.99 meters (now $3,99) by the dozen and give them to my customers who were out of state and hard to get to. They worked well enough for a quick diagnosis of equipment over the phone. I had guys calling me up to ask how to test their cable TV coax (dogs got it) and their light switches and their servo amps on CNC lathes. Those meters worked well enough for that with no issues noted. Other than the guy who went to get his meter to check his coax..and his dobbies had eaten the meter as well. Shrug. Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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Gunner Asch fired this volley in
: Those meters worked well enough for that with no issues noted. Uh, huh! And a LOT cheaper than driving to their site, both for you AND them. Besides that, it gives the customer a sort of "ownership" of the problem, when they can help trouble-shoot it. That goes a long way toward cementing personal relationships with your customers. They KNOW they saved a bunch by doing it, and it makes them feel pretty good about it. LLoyd |
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 07:39:28 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 08:30:54 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: fired this volley in : Really? As an electrical instructor, are you even the slightest bit worried about using a cheap multimeter? That's sort of a 'mixed bag'. I would never use one of those myself, except to get a quick check of the meter itself, to verify it was _reasonably_ accurate. However, I install equipment for folks who are not usually technically- competent at fixing equipment (being competent at making things that go "BANG", instead), and there are sometimes things I can do "with their hands" over the phone to help trouble-shoot problems. If they don't even own an instrument, I'll pick up one of those to leave with them (checking it first, of course), just so I don't have to pick up my car keys every time the phone rings. LLoyd I used to buy the HF $2.99 meters (now $3,99) by the dozen and give them to my customers who were out of state and hard to get to. They worked well enough for a quick diagnosis of equipment over the phone. I had guys calling me up to ask how to test their cable TV coax (dogs got it) and their light switches and their servo amps on CNC lathes. Those meters worked well enough for that with no issues noted. Other than the guy who went to get his meter to check his coax..and his dobbies had eaten the meter as well. Shrug. Gunner Speaking of dogs..the wife and I just spent the past 30 minutes looking for my ID, bank cards, CCW etc etc that were in my wallet...well..the wallet I used to own...the wallet I recently purchased..one of the few leather ones Ive ever owned..and had grown to like...the wallet Id laid under my monitor last night before going to bed..the wallet that I found in a bunch of well chewed pieces under my desk, and in the back yard and under the kitchen table and in the hallway and in my shop. Found about half the wallet itself. The rest will turn up in about 8 hours..the contents..found most of them..even found the handcuff key I keep tucked away in it...most..most of it was in ok shape..the most important things..the DL and the Wells Fargo card were not too badly damaged..the new O'Reilly autoparts card was only half there..the Autozone card..mostly there..the rest..in varible shape. Sigh..Id bought that wallet to replace the nylon wallet that one of the dogs had gotten and found it in a number of places as well. Id beat the hell out of whoever did it..but most of them slept with me all night..and I dont know which one got it. Ive got to go to LA in an hour or so..but the wife will watch the dogs and see if she can spot one of the ****ting ot the other half..and that dog will be watched like a hawk..and first time (I suspect Sally) we catch her chewing something of mine..she gets a hell of a beating. My business cards were in perfect shape. $24 for a wallet for a Christmas present to myself...**** out a dogs ass....damnit Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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On 2/18/2015 8:05 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 07:39:28 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 08:30:54 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: fired this volley in : Really? As an electrical instructor, are you even the slightest bit worried about using a cheap multimeter? That's sort of a 'mixed bag'. I would never use one of those myself, except to get a quick check of the meter itself, to verify it was _reasonably_ accurate. However, I install equipment for folks who are not usually technically- competent at fixing equipment (being competent at making things that go "BANG", instead), and there are sometimes things I can do "with their hands" over the phone to help trouble-shoot problems. If they don't even own an instrument, I'll pick up one of those to leave with them (checking it first, of course), just so I don't have to pick up my car keys every time the phone rings. LLoyd I used to buy the HF $2.99 meters (now $3,99) by the dozen and give them to my customers who were out of state and hard to get to. They worked well enough for a quick diagnosis of equipment over the phone. I had guys calling me up to ask how to test their cable TV coax (dogs got it) and their light switches and their servo amps on CNC lathes. Those meters worked well enough for that with no issues noted. Other than the guy who went to get his meter to check his coax..and his dobbies had eaten the meter as well. Shrug. Gunner Speaking of dogs..the wife and I just spent the past 30 minutes You don't have a wife, gummer. You said she left for good a couple of years ago. |
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 08:30:54 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: fired this volley in : Really? As an electrical instructor, are you even the slightest bit worried about using a cheap multimeter? That's sort of a 'mixed bag'. I would never use one of those myself, except to get a quick check of the meter itself, to verify it was _reasonably_ accurate. However, I install equipment for folks who are not usually technically- competent at fixing equipment (being competent at making things that go "BANG", instead), and there are sometimes things I can do "with their hands" over the phone to help trouble-shoot problems. If they don't even own an instrument, I'll pick up one of those to leave with them (checking it first, of course), just so I don't have to pick up my car keys every time the phone rings. LLoyd I used to buy the HF $2.99 meters (now $3,99) by the dozen and give them to my customers who were out of state and hard to get to. They worked well enough for a quick diagnosis of equipment over the phone. I had guys calling me up to ask how to test their cable TV coax (dogs got it) and their light switches and their servo amps on CNC lathes. Those meters worked well enough for that with no issues noted. Other than the guy who went to get his meter to check his coax..and his dobbies had eaten the meter as well. Shrug. Gunner The HF DVMs have an internal calibration pot that can bring them within 2 counts of a good meter. Mine were generally within 5 counts at 12.00V as received. 500 VDC from a Megger's guard terminal hasn't fried a meter or its included test leads, which I just unplugged, twisted together and measured as 1000 MegOhms at 1000 VDC. I use better quality probes and leads to check the power line. -jsw |
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"Jim Wilkins" fired this volley in news:mc2j22$um5$1
@dont-email.me: I use better quality probes and leads to check the power line. Well, since everything on my machines except for incoming power is (usually) at 48V or lower, I'd say those leads will hold up pretty well to any 'corona' that might develop! G LLoyd |
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On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 13:47:57 -0500, "Steve W."
wrote: wrote: On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 12:55:48 AM UTC-5, amdx wrote: On 2/17/2015 9:53 PM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote: We just recently got a store opened in our city. My wife went shopping there and bought some wheels for a cart, she even got the free multimeter as a gift for me! Really? As an electrical instructor, are you even the slightest bit worried about using a cheap multimeter? I have a bunch of them around. They are all well within tolerances. I have tested a few and they matched my Fluke meters reading for reading. The test leads are not the best but for probably 95% of what a meter is used for they work. They are great for the average person as well as a "training" meter. I'd much rather a newbie burned up a (free-3.00) meter than a ($4-500.00) Fluke! I dont worry about them burning up a Fluke. I do worry about them bashing/smashing/losing/Letting the dobies eat a Fluke. Even with the superb rubber armor...they are not "indestructable" Or dobie proof. Shrug "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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On Wednesday, February 18, 2015 at 1:48:00 PM UTC-5, Steve W. wrote:
I have a bunch of them around. They are all well within tolerances. I have tested a few and they matched my Fluke meters reading for reading. The test leads are not the best but for probably 95% of what a meter is used for they work. Steve W. That is my experience too. I built a voltage standard and was surprised at how accurate those cheap HF meters are. Dan |
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
... Humm..counting the 8060As and the bench tops...I may have around 10.....Crom!! Have you ever tinkered with an 8060A? I bought one real cheap that worked fine in the store but became intermittent at home. I suspect the pushbutton switch contacts. Before I tear into it I'd like to hear first-hand what works and more importantly what doesn't. Primum non nocere -jsw |
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 03:58:24 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:34:53 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: My "good" meter is a Mastech MS8209. 'Taint a Fluke, but I don't need one. I've happily used the sound meter, thermocouple, LUX meter (recently on LEDs to test relative output/efficiency), and love the beeping ohmeter. The clamp-on has a beeper, too. Sigh..my hearing has so many holes in it..I generally cant hear beeping anymore. I went for a hearing test some years ago..and the tech stood there reading the printout..looked up, blinked..and asked if Id had a serious head injury. My hearing results looked like it had been shot with a shotgun. That, and too many rifle and handgun rounds, eh? Or do you wear ear protection on the range? Suckage about your hearing holes and not being able to hear the beeps. I adore that function of the VOMs, especially for repetitive testing in tight places. Though to be fair...I can buy about 5 of the HF meters for (1) of the Flukes. Ive got at least 6 Fluke meters though..love em!! Wish I could afford a Fluke scope (cringe!!!) Humm..counting the 8060As and the bench tops...I may have around 10.....Crom!! Obsess much? (On pets or meters?) Who...me? (looking around)...why yes..I do...comes from growing up semi-poor and a technology freak with wide interests and little cash. Gunner, Fluke Freak...whimper... g (not counting the Tektronics bench tops, the RatShacks, the Simpsons etc etc etc) That little Circuitmate function gen was indeed bad. She no make pretty pictures on the scope at all. Damn. Well...well..fix it! Or ask one of the electronics wonks here to take a look at it. They arent complicated. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...ng/L9EKhM3duT4 Hah! You tried before me? Try here... http://digilander.libero.it/chopin.i...eneratori.html "Nessun risultato trovato per circuitmate" You don't read French and I don't read Italian. I was getting "some" signal last time I used it..but its been a couple years. Ill see what else Ive got ratholed and when you come back to pick up the rest of the stuff you left behind...and go shooting and sailing..it will be here waiting for you. G I'm just hoping Lee does a drive-by soon... It's a long way to your house. I'm still ****ed at not being able to get to the range with you, but as you saw, I could barely stand up. Damn, I hate getting sick. By the time I got home, the flu/cold had pretty much run its course, but the double sinus infection had really blossomed. It took 2 courses of Z-pack to finally kill 'em. Ill bet you could probably talk Michael into fixing it for you...maybe. I haven't popped the top, though I did with the HP DVM. I saw nothing inside which I could even attempt to work on. It was so securely shielded from stray RF that it would take a day just to get its armor off. g -- A sound mind in a sound body is a short but full description of a happy state in this world. -- John Locke |
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:21:05 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . Humm..counting the 8060As and the bench tops...I may have around 10.....Crom!! Have you ever tinkered with an 8060A? I bought one real cheap that worked fine in the store but became intermittent at home. I suspect the pushbutton switch contacts. Before I tear into it I'd like to hear first-hand what works and more importantly what doesn't. Primum non nocere -jsw They are well known for having dirty switch contact issues when they get old or are unused for a while. Pop the case and spritz the switch bodies with some oil filled tuner cleaner (yah..people are going to scream..Oil! Oh no!!) or some BreakFree (go easy with it!) Then blow it and the excess goop out with your air hose (no water please!) Or pick your favorite contact cleaner. YMMV Ive had to futz with several of them over the years simply because of this. I put most of them up and went to meters with rotary dials simply because the rotary were easier to use after the stroke and having been mentus minimal for a year or so. I need to dig em back out an clean em up and put new batteries in them..now that Im back to normal....twitch..spazm...flutter.... Depending on age/use..you may..may have switches which are simply worn out..but Ive never seen one. Hell..I ought to put half my gear on Ebay...Ive got way..way too much Stuff and I dont use 70% of it. Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:21:05 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . Humm..counting the 8060As and the bench tops...I may have around 10.....Crom!! Have you ever tinkered with an 8060A? I bought one real cheap that worked fine in the store but became intermittent at home. I suspect the pushbutton switch contacts. Before I tear into it I'd like to hear first-hand what works and more importantly what doesn't. During my meager time as a test tech, I discovered that the spray contact cleaner designed for switches worked wonders on our old equipment. Clean, debride g, deox, lube. https://www.google.com/search?q=spray+contact+cleaner -- A sound mind in a sound body is a short but full description of a happy state in this world. -- John Locke |
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 03:58:24 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: I wrote: That little Circuitmate function gen was indeed bad. She no make pretty pictures on the scope at all. Damn. Well...well..fix it! Found a manual: http://elektrotanya.com/beckman_fg2_.../download.html -- A sound mind in a sound body is a short but full description of a happy state in this world. -- John Locke |
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 04:50:54 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 03:58:24 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:34:53 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: My "good" meter is a Mastech MS8209. 'Taint a Fluke, but I don't need one. I've happily used the sound meter, thermocouple, LUX meter (recently on LEDs to test relative output/efficiency), and love the beeping ohmeter. The clamp-on has a beeper, too. Sigh..my hearing has so many holes in it..I generally cant hear beeping anymore. I went for a hearing test some years ago..and the tech stood there reading the printout..looked up, blinked..and asked if Id had a serious head injury. My hearing results looked like it had been shot with a shotgun. That, and too many rifle and handgun rounds, eh? Or do you wear ear protection on the range? Suckage about your hearing holes and not being able to hear the beeps. I adore that function of the VOMs, especially for repetitive testing in tight places. I was the recipient of a H&I round of 155 mm arty which lodged a bit of driving band in my skull and shredded both of my eardrums. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TBl9cwanbI 40 yrs of competitive shooting since then, plus advancing age have taken its toll. Frankly..Im very..very lucky to be able to hear at all. In fact...Im ginsalucky to be alive. Though to be fair...I can buy about 5 of the HF meters for (1) of the Flukes. Ive got at least 6 Fluke meters though..love em!! Wish I could afford a Fluke scope (cringe!!!) Humm..counting the 8060As and the bench tops...I may have around 10.....Crom!! Obsess much? (On pets or meters?) Who...me? (looking around)...why yes..I do...comes from growing up semi-poor and a technology freak with wide interests and little cash. Gunner, Fluke Freak...whimper... g (not counting the Tektronics bench tops, the RatShacks, the Simpsons etc etc etc) That little Circuitmate function gen was indeed bad. She no make pretty pictures on the scope at all. Damn. Well...well..fix it! Or ask one of the electronics wonks here to take a look at it. They arent complicated. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...ng/L9EKhM3duT4 Hah! You tried before me? Stroke remember? I dont remember posting that 6 yrs ago. When I found it..I was amused. I got over any surprise years ago. Try here... http://digilander.libero.it/chopin.i...eneratori.html "Nessun risultato trovato per circuitmate" You don't read French and I don't read Italian. Actually the file is in english. I downloaded it for you but if you found it...go ahead and save us both some effort. Circuit seems pretty simple. I was getting "some" signal last time I used it..but its been a couple years. Ill see what else Ive got ratholed and when you come back to pick up the rest of the stuff you left behind...and go shooting and sailing..it will be here waiting for you. G I'm just hoping Lee does a drive-by soon... It's a long way to your house. I'm still ****ed at not being able to get to the range with you, but as you saw, I could barely stand up. Damn, I hate getting sick. By the time I got home, the flu/cold had pretty much run its course, but the double sinus infection had really blossomed. It took 2 courses of Z-pack to finally kill 'em. Ayup..I felt rather sorry for you..you most definately were under the weather..bout 60 fathoms under Ill bet you could probably talk Michael into fixing it for you...maybe. I haven't popped the top, though I did with the HP DVM. I saw nothing inside which I could even attempt to work on. It was so securely shielded from stray RF that it would take a day just to get its armor off. g The Aglient DVM was working last time I used it. It isnt now? Dont remember if we tried it or not when you were here. "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:06:12 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: Or ask one of the electronics wonks here to take a look at it. They arent complicated. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...ng/L9EKhM3duT4 Hah! You tried before me? Stroke remember? I dont remember posting that 6 yrs ago. When I found it..I was amused. I got over any surprise years ago. Btw...it was..was working according to this post. As I recall..and the post confirms..the sawtooth waveform had a half round side..probably a bad cap.. " Gunner Asch wrote: Needing a manual for a Circuitmate 9020 scope and a Circuitmate FG2 function generator, picked up on Ebay. There are some features of the scope I need a better understanding of, and the function geny has a deformed waveform so need a schematic..likely a bad cap, but..shrug" I bought a lot of gear the 2 yrs before the stroke. Id done a project where I made a fair amount of money and I stocked up on arms, ammo, reloading equipment and electronic gear along with tools and work related stuff. I found a surplus shop down in LA area that was selling test equipment for pennies on the dollar on Ebay. Wish I could remember where they were though. Id go by and see if they are still around. I bought a lot of gear in there for myself and friends. Owned by ornimentals..Vietnamese IRRC..right next to a wholsale butcher who gave me GREAT prices on hot sausages, in a little industrial "strip mall". Cannot remember where it was though I have bit and pieces of the trip(s) I made. Shrug Fortunately I have a good sense of humor about myself..else Id have been devistated about how much I lost (languages) and how much Ive forgotten. **** happens and if one lets it eat at him...there wont be much left after too long. Shrug (Grin) "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 05:22:29 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 03:58:24 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: I wrote: That little Circuitmate function gen was indeed bad. She no make pretty pictures on the scope at all. Damn. Well...well..fix it! Found a manual: http://elektrotanya.com/beckman_fg2_.../download.html I figured you would/could "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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... On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:21:05 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message . .. Humm..counting the 8060As and the bench tops...I may have around 10.....Crom!! Have you ever tinkered with an 8060A? I bought one real cheap that worked fine in the store but became intermittent at home. I suspect the pushbutton switch contacts. Before I tear into it I'd like to hear first-hand what works and more importantly what doesn't. During my meager time as a test tech, I discovered that the spray contact cleaner designed for switches worked wonders on our old equipment. Clean, debride g, deox, lube. https://www.google.com/search?q=spray+contact+cleaner I bought the 8060A during the summer and set it aside as a winter repair project. The upper A V ? button fails the [PowerOn + REL] switch test: http://pdf.datasheetarchive.com/inde...SADA001160.pdf It passes the ratio test with 9999. PowerOn + --))) My choices are CRC MAF and general-purpose contact cleaner, 91% isopropyl alcohol, Deoxit and Deoxit Gold. I've never tried Deoxit, the others have worked well enough for me on more accessible wiping contacts like the harness connectors in my truck. Here's the issue, see 2.4: http://www.brentek.com/pdfs/DRY_Applications.pdf At Unitrode we used semiconductor-grade 91% isopropyl to clean new boards and bare wafers after Freon was prohibited. I have the Walmart-grade. http://mrmodemhead.com/blog/fluke-8060a-repair/ "The switch assemblies make it hard to fully clean the circuit board with IPA (isopropyl alcohol), which is usually step #1 in any restoration project." Internet opinions on contact cleaners vary. Any soluble contamination is likely to enter the switch, and once inside it's nearly impossible to remove, so I'm asking for hands-on experience. -jsw |
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:24:16 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:21:05 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... Humm..counting the 8060As and the bench tops...I may have around 10.....Crom!! Have you ever tinkered with an 8060A? I bought one real cheap that worked fine in the store but became intermittent at home. I suspect the pushbutton switch contacts. Before I tear into it I'd like to hear first-hand what works and more importantly what doesn't. During my meager time as a test tech, I discovered that the spray contact cleaner designed for switches worked wonders on our old equipment. Clean, debride g, deox, lube. https://www.google.com/search?q=spray+contact+cleaner I bought the 8060A during the summer and set it aside as a winter repair project. The upper A V ? button fails the [PowerOn + REL] switch test: http://pdf.datasheetarchive.com/inde...SADA001160.pdf It passes the ratio test with 9999. PowerOn + --))) My choices are CRC MAF and general-purpose contact cleaner, 91% isopropyl alcohol, Deoxit and Deoxit Gold. I've never tried Deoxit, the others have worked well enough for me on more accessible wiping contacts like the harness connectors in my truck. Here's the issue, see 2.4: http://www.brentek.com/pdfs/DRY_Applications.pdf At Unitrode we used semiconductor-grade 91% isopropyl to clean new boards and bare wafers after Freon was prohibited. I have the Walmart-grade. http://mrmodemhead.com/blog/fluke-8060a-repair/ "The switch assemblies make it hard to fully clean the circuit board with IPA (isopropyl alcohol), which is usually step #1 in any restoration project." Internet opinions on contact cleaners vary. Any soluble contamination is likely to enter the switch, and once inside it's nearly impossible to remove, so I'm asking for hands-on experience. -jsw I assume you have seen this? http://mrmodemhead.com/blog/fluke-8060a-repair/ And this? http://assets.fluke.com/manuals/8060a_3vimeng0200.pdf "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
... On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 10:24:16 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message . .. On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:21:05 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message m... Humm..counting the 8060As and the bench tops...I may have around 10.....Crom!! Have you ever tinkered with an 8060A? I bought one real cheap that worked fine in the store but became intermittent at home. I suspect the pushbutton switch contacts. Before I tear into it I'd like to hear first-hand what works and more importantly what doesn't. During my meager time as a test tech, I discovered that the spray contact cleaner designed for switches worked wonders on our old equipment. Clean, debride g, deox, lube. https://www.google.com/search?q=spray+contact+cleaner I bought the 8060A during the summer and set it aside as a winter repair project. The upper A V ? button fails the [PowerOn + REL] switch test: http://pdf.datasheetarchive.com/inde...SADA001160.pdf It passes the ratio test with 9999. PowerOn + --))) My choices are CRC MAF and general-purpose contact cleaner, 91% isopropyl alcohol, Deoxit and Deoxit Gold. I've never tried Deoxit, the others have worked well enough for me on more accessible wiping contacts like the harness connectors in my truck. Here's the issue, see 2.4: http://www.brentek.com/pdfs/DRY_Applications.pdf At Unitrode we used semiconductor-grade 91% isopropyl to clean new boards and bare wafers after Freon was prohibited. I have the Walmart-grade. http://mrmodemhead.com/blog/fluke-8060a-repair/ "The switch assemblies make it hard to fully clean the circuit board with IPA (isopropyl alcohol), which is usually step #1 in any restoration project." Internet opinions on contact cleaners vary. Any soluble contamination is likely to enter the switch, and once inside it's nearly impossible to remove, so I'm asking for hands-on experience. -jsw I assume you have seen this? http://mrmodemhead.com/blog/fluke-8060a-repair/ And this? http://assets.fluke.com/manuals/8060a_3vimeng0200.pdf I referenced and quoted from the first one. The second applies to a higher serial number range than my meter, which is why I mentioned the older datasheetarchive file instead of either of the two newer Fluke .pdfs Thanks for looking. -jsw |
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On 2015-02-19, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:34:53 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: [ ... ] My "good" meter is a Mastech MS8209. 'Taint a Fluke, but I don't need one. I've happily used the sound meter, thermocouple, LUX meter (recently on LEDs to test relative output/efficiency), and love the beeping ohmeter. The clamp-on has a beeper, too. Sigh..my hearing has so many holes in it..I generally cant hear beeping anymore. I went for a hearing test some years ago..and the tech stood there reading the printout..looked up, blinked..and asked if Id had a serious head injury. My hearing results looked like it had been shot with a shotgun. My high frequency hearing (everything above 2 KHz) has been gone since at least high school (before I started shooting, so we can't blame that. :-) I bought a Fluke 77 some years ago, and wound up selling it to a co-worker. I could not hear the continuity beeper. So, I got a Fluke 27 (physically larger, and a lower pitch beeper) so I don't have to ask my wife to be a beep repeater. :-) In particular, I like the double short beep for the proper forward voltage drop on a silcon diode, or transistor junction. Enjoy, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | (KV4PH) Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On 2015-02-19, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:21:05 -0500, "Jim Wilkins" wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... [ ... ] My choices are CRC MAF and general-purpose contact cleaner, 91% isopropyl alcohol, Deoxit and Deoxit Gold. I've never tried Deoxit, the others have worked well enough for me on more accessible wiping contacts like the harness connectors in my truck. Here's the issue, see 2.4: http://www.brentek.com/pdfs/DRY_Applications.pdf I've never tried DeOxit Gold, but I have used DeOxit, and its predecessor from the same company, Cramolin, and found both to be very good -- including for spraying into the end of a push-button switch assembly of the kind likely to be in the piano-key Flukes. I've used it on some aging switches of similar nature in various 7000 series Tektronix plugins. [ ... ] Internet opinions on contact cleaners vary. Any soluble contamination is likely to enter the switch, and once inside it's nearly impossible to remove, so I'm asking for hands-on experience. Well ... you have my opinion about the DeOxit and the switch assemblies. Hold the board so the DeOxit will flow through the switch as you spritz in with the skinny nose tube, cycle the switches a number of times, then follow with another round of DeOxit. (Or use the red and blue varieties, if you have both. -- I was once told that the two colors differed only in the color dye in them, and this was to encourage the following of the instructions of cleaning with one spritz and then protecting/lubricating with the other. Good Luck, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | (KV4PH) Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:06:12 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 04:50:54 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 03:58:24 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:34:53 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: My "good" meter is a Mastech MS8209. 'Taint a Fluke, but I don't need one. I've happily used the sound meter, thermocouple, LUX meter (recently on LEDs to test relative output/efficiency), and love the beeping ohmeter. The clamp-on has a beeper, too. Sigh..my hearing has so many holes in it..I generally cant hear beeping anymore. I went for a hearing test some years ago..and the tech stood there reading the printout..looked up, blinked..and asked if Id had a serious head injury. My hearing results looked like it had been shot with a shotgun. That, and too many rifle and handgun rounds, eh? Or do you wear ear protection on the range? Suckage about your hearing holes and not being able to hear the beeps. I adore that function of the VOMs, especially for repetitive testing in tight places. I was the recipient of a H&I round of 155 mm arty which lodged a bit of driving band in my skull and shredded both of my eardrums. Friendly fire? Bummer! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TBl9cwanbI Jayzuss! You can really hear the shrapnel whizzing on by, can't you? Well, if you weren't hit by it and had your eardrums shredded. Crazy, mon! 40 yrs of competitive shooting since then, plus advancing age have taken its toll. Frankly..Im very..very lucky to be able to hear at all. In fact...Im ginsalucky to be alive. Damned straight. Goodonya, mate! Damn. Well...well..fix it! Or ask one of the electronics wonks here to take a look at it. They arent complicated. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...ng/L9EKhM3duT4 Hah! You tried before me? Stroke remember? I dont remember posting that 6 yrs ago. When I found it..I was amused. I got over any surprise years ago. That's proving to be darned unhandy at times, isn't it? Try here... http://digilander.libero.it/chopin.i...eneratori.html "Nessun risultato trovato per circuitmate" You don't read French and I don't read Italian. Actually the file is in english. I downloaded it for you but if you found it...go ahead and save us both some effort. Circuit seems pretty simple. I haven't even opened it yet. A little RF dimmer switch with remote came in the mail today and I soldered a jack to the LED string. It works beautifully with the (low light) single 3528s. I'll be using it on one of these strings: hi-dens 3528 (120/m) or single 5630s (60/m or 300 per 5m string.) It cost $2.82 with free shipping from Shenzen, China. New switching (vs xfrm) wall wart p/s are $2.60 with free shipping. Get a couple of the dimmers and keep one in your pocket, the other velcroed to the bulkhead of your fave boat and have mood lighting. High for reading, low for lurking. Go 5050 or 5630 for the brightness, though a single string of 3528s would light up that little cabin pretty nicely, I'll bet. I was getting "some" signal last time I used it..but its been a couple years. Ill see what else Ive got ratholed and when you come back to pick up the rest of the stuff you left behind...and go shooting and sailing..it will be here waiting for you. G I'm just hoping Lee does a drive-by soon... It's a long way to your house. I'm still ****ed at not being able to get to the range with you, but as you saw, I could barely stand up. Damn, I hate getting sick. By the time I got home, the flu/cold had pretty much run its course, but the double sinus infection had really blossomed. It took 2 courses of Z-pack to finally kill 'em. Ayup..I felt rather sorry for you..you most definately were under the weather..bout 60 fathoms under It felt more like 20,000 leagues. The bug hit me right as I was carting Mom around in the wheelchair, then I had to help set up the reception (up and down ladders for 3 hours.) By the time the reception was on, I was completely out of it. I drove to your house 2 days later, with the blinding headache from the (first of two) sinus infection starting to flare up. Some vacation. sigh After I loaded up at your house, I drove to my sister's and died overnight. Her fresh chicken soup helped a lot. g After making it home the next day, I spent the next two weeks in bed. All of October was gone before I started to bring in any more wages. Sucked, it did! Ill bet you could probably talk Michael into fixing it for you...maybe. I haven't popped the top, though I did with the HP DVM. I saw nothing inside which I could even attempt to work on. It was so securely shielded from stray RF that it would take a day just to get its armor off. g The Aglient DVM was working last time I used it. It isnt now? Dont remember if we tried it or not when you were here. I don't recall, either, but it's not. Is it possible to get replacement batteries for the 422, um, on _our_ kind of budget? Or should I pop an $18 7ah glass mat SLA in there, for use off-grid? I need to get some contact cleaner for that intensity switch, too. It drops out from about 0-80% brightness, then blinks on a bit too bright, though the focus helps reduce the phosphor bloom a bit. -- A sound mind in a sound body is a short but full description of a happy state in this world. -- John Locke |
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:18:59 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:06:12 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: Or ask one of the electronics wonks here to take a look at it. They arent complicated. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...ng/L9EKhM3duT4 Hah! You tried before me? Stroke remember? I dont remember posting that 6 yrs ago. When I found it..I was amused. I got over any surprise years ago. Btw...it was..was working according to this post. As I recall..and the post confirms..the sawtooth waveform had a half round side..probably a bad cap.. I think I did see that at one point, but it was a spurious spurt against the norm of zero output. I bought a lot of gear the 2 yrs before the stroke. Id done a project where I made a fair amount of money and I stocked up on arms, ammo, reloading equipment and electronic gear along with tools and work related stuff. Well, at least you didn't pay for it and forget to pick it up after the stroke. That would have been excruciating if someone else remembered it and you didn't. I found a surplus shop down in LA area that was selling test equipment for pennies on the dollar on Ebay. Wish I could remember where they were though. Id go by and see if they are still around. I bought a lot of gear in there for myself and friends. Owned by ornimentals..Vietnamese IRRC..right next to a wholsale butcher who gave me GREAT prices on hot sausages, in a little industrial "strip mall". Cannot remember where it was though I have bit and pieces of the trip(s) I made. Shrug Ornimentals? chuckle Fortunately I have a good sense of humor about myself..else Id have been devistated about how much I lost (languages) and how much Ive forgotten. **** happens and if one lets it eat at him...there wont be much left after too long. Shrug (Grin) Truth! -- A sound mind in a sound body is a short but full description of a happy state in this world. -- John Locke |
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On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 20:54:47 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:06:12 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 04:50:54 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 03:58:24 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:34:53 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: My "good" meter is a Mastech MS8209. 'Taint a Fluke, but I don't need one. I've happily used the sound meter, thermocouple, LUX meter (recently on LEDs to test relative output/efficiency), and love the beeping ohmeter. The clamp-on has a beeper, too. Sigh..my hearing has so many holes in it..I generally cant hear beeping anymore. I went for a hearing test some years ago..and the tech stood there reading the printout..looked up, blinked..and asked if Id had a serious head injury. My hearing results looked like it had been shot with a shotgun. That, and too many rifle and handgun rounds, eh? Or do you wear ear protection on the range? Suckage about your hearing holes and not being able to hear the beeps. I adore that function of the VOMs, especially for repetitive testing in tight places. I was the recipient of a H&I round of 155 mm arty which lodged a bit of driving band in my skull and shredded both of my eardrums. Friendly fire? Bummer! Its never friendly. And it was fired by our Arvin brothers, or so they told me. Probably under the orders of some half stoned American cannon cocker... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TBl9cwanbI Jayzuss! You can really hear the shrapnel whizzing on by, can't you? Well, if you weren't hit by it and had your eardrums shredded. Crazy, mon! Oh hell yes you can hear it. I dont remember the round that hit me..I have a half memory of a bright flash and then a day or so of being jostled around a lot. My Chu Hoi got me to a firebase..they stuck me on a slick and sent me to Saigon..then on to Honchu Japan where they cracked open my skull and pulled the little ******* out of my skull. I was blind and paralysed for over a week after coming out of the surgery. Id planned on doing myself in first chance I could..then things started working again. Got everything back within a month or so. Learned what a rat**** Letterman Hospital was in 1973 the hard way. 40 yrs of competitive shooting since then, plus advancing age have taken its toll. Frankly..Im very..very lucky to be able to hear at all. In fact...Im ginsalucky to be alive. Damned straight. Goodonya, mate! So far..so good. Damn. Well...well..fix it! Or ask one of the electronics wonks here to take a look at it. They arent complicated. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!to...ng/L9EKhM3duT4 Hah! You tried before me? Stroke remember? I dont remember posting that 6 yrs ago. When I found it..I was amused. I got over any surprise years ago. That's proving to be darned unhandy at times, isn't it? It has had its moments. Shrug. Ive got almost everything back..except my languages..but there are still some moderate sized holes that are gone forever. Try here... http://digilander.libero.it/chopin.i...eneratori.html "Nessun risultato trovato per circuitmate" You don't read French and I don't read Italian. Actually the file is in english. I downloaded it for you but if you found it...go ahead and save us both some effort. Circuit seems pretty simple. I haven't even opened it yet. A little RF dimmer switch with remote came in the mail today and I soldered a jack to the LED string. It works beautifully with the (low light) single 3528s. I'll be using it on one of these strings: hi-dens 3528 (120/m) or single 5630s (60/m or 300 per 5m string.) It cost $2.82 with free shipping from Shenzen, China. New switching (vs xfrm) wall wart p/s are $2.60 with free shipping. Get a couple of the dimmers and keep one in your pocket, the other velcroed to the bulkhead of your fave boat and have mood lighting. High for reading, low for lurking. Go 5050 or 5630 for the brightness, though a single string of 3528s would light up that little cabin pretty nicely, I'll bet. Doing just that is high on my list. Saturday Im fiberglassing the rudder, which I turned into a "lifting rudder" last weekend. Just a few more things to do..not much at all. This has been an easy restoration. Now comes the gold plating and fun stuff to make it "nice". Installing the marine radio, stereo system, carpeting the walls..I think she is going to be my "regular" boat. https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Windrose1802 I was getting "some" signal last time I used it..but its been a couple years. Ill see what else Ive got ratholed and when you come back to pick up the rest of the stuff you left behind...and go shooting and sailing..it will be here waiting for you. G I'm just hoping Lee does a drive-by soon... It's a long way to your house. I'm still ****ed at not being able to get to the range with you, but as you saw, I could barely stand up. Damn, I hate getting sick. By the time I got home, the flu/cold had pretty much run its course, but the double sinus infection had really blossomed. It took 2 courses of Z-pack to finally kill 'em. Ayup..I felt rather sorry for you..you most definately were under the weather..bout 60 fathoms under It felt more like 20,000 leagues. The bug hit me right as I was carting Mom around in the wheelchair, then I had to help set up the reception (up and down ladders for 3 hours.) By the time the reception was on, I was completely out of it. I drove to your house 2 days later, with the blinding headache from the (first of two) sinus infection starting to flare up. Some vacation. sigh After I loaded up at your house, I drove to my sister's and died overnight. Her fresh chicken soup helped a lot. g After making it home the next day, I spent the next two weeks in bed. All of October was gone before I started to bring in any more wages. Sucked, it did! Ill bet you could probably talk Michael into fixing it for you...maybe. I haven't popped the top, though I did with the HP DVM. I saw nothing inside which I could even attempt to work on. It was so securely shielded from stray RF that it would take a day just to get its armor off. g The Aglient DVM was working last time I used it. It isnt now? Dont remember if we tried it or not when you were here. I don't recall, either, but it's not. Whats it doing or not doing? Is it possible to get replacement batteries for the 422, um, on _our_ kind of budget? Or should I pop an $18 7ah glass mat SLA in there, for use off-grid? I need to get some contact cleaner for that intensity switch, too. It drops out from about 0-80% brightness, then blinks on a bit too bright, though the focus helps reduce the phosphor bloom a bit. You would have to build/rebuild the battery pack. IRRC they were Nicads. There is a fair amount of info on the net, it being one of the more popular older Tektronix scopes. Subscribe to the Tektronics group(s) on Yahoo Groups and ask around as well. This might help http://elektrotanya.com/tektronix_42.../download.html http://www.k7jrl.com/pub/manuals/tek...r%20Supply.pdf Get some tuner cleaner and spritz the pot. Its just dirty. Remember..I did offer you newer and much nicer scopes...shrug Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 03:56:14 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 20:54:47 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:06:12 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 04:50:54 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 03:58:24 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:34:53 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: My "good" meter is a Mastech MS8209. 'Taint a Fluke, but I don't need one. I've happily used the sound meter, thermocouple, LUX meter (recently on LEDs to test relative output/efficiency), and love the beeping ohmeter. The clamp-on has a beeper, too. Sigh..my hearing has so many holes in it..I generally cant hear beeping anymore. I went for a hearing test some years ago..and the tech stood there reading the printout..looked up, blinked..and asked if Id had a serious head injury. My hearing results looked like it had been shot with a shotgun. That, and too many rifle and handgun rounds, eh? Or do you wear ear protection on the range? Suckage about your hearing holes and not being able to hear the beeps. I adore that function of the VOMs, especially for repetitive testing in tight places. I was the recipient of a H&I round of 155 mm arty which lodged a bit of driving band in my skull and shredded both of my eardrums. Friendly fire? Bummer! Its never friendly. And it was fired by our Arvin brothers, or so they told me. Probably under the orders of some half stoned American cannon cocker... sigh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TBl9cwanbI Jayzuss! You can really hear the shrapnel whizzing on by, can't you? Well, if you weren't hit by it and had your eardrums shredded. Crazy, mon! Oh hell yes you can hear it. I dont remember the round that hit me..I have a half memory of a bright flash and then a day or so of being jostled around a lot. My Chu Hoi got me to a firebase..they stuck me on a slick and sent me to Saigon..then on to Honchu Japan where they cracked open my skull and pulled the little ******* out of my skull. I was blind and paralysed for over a week after coming out of the surgery. Id planned on doing myself in first chance I could..then things started working again. Got everything back within a month or so. Learned what a rat**** Letterman Hospital was in 1973 the hard way. Suckage. I haven't even opened it yet. A little RF dimmer switch with remote came in the mail today and I soldered a jack to the LED string. It works beautifully with the (low light) single 3528s. I'll be using it on one of these strings: hi-dens 3528 (120/m) or single 5630s (60/m or 300 per 5m string.) It cost $2.82 with free shipping from Shenzen, China. New switching (vs xfrm) wall wart p/s are $2.60 with free shipping. Get a couple of the dimmers and keep one in your pocket, the other velcroed to the bulkhead of your fave boat and have mood lighting. High for reading, low for lurking. Go 5050 or 5630 for the brightness, though a single string of 3528s would light up that little cabin pretty nicely, I'll bet. Doing just that is high on my list. Saturday Im fiberglassing the rudder, which I turned into a "lifting rudder" last weekend. Just a few more things to do..not much at all. This has been an easy restoration. Now comes the gold plating and fun stuff to make it "nice". Installing the marine radio, stereo system, carpeting the walls..I think she is going to be my "regular" boat. Gold plating the terlit seat, no doubt? https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Windrose1802 Where will you _ever_ find replacement carpet in that color? The Aglient DVM was working last time I used it. It isnt now? Dont remember if we tried it or not when you were here. I don't recall, either, but it's not. Whats it doing or not doing? No pretty lights upon powerup. Is it possible to get replacement batteries for the 422, um, on _our_ kind of budget? Or should I pop an $18 7ah glass mat SLA in there, for use off-grid? I need to get some contact cleaner for that intensity switch, too. It drops out from about 0-80% brightness, then blinks on a bit too bright, though the focus helps reduce the phosphor bloom a bit. You would have to build/rebuild the battery pack. IRRC they were Nicads. There is a fair amount of info on the net, it being one of the more popular older Tektronix scopes. Subscribe to the Tektronics group(s) on Yahoo Groups and ask around as well. This might help http://elektrotanya.com/tektronix_42.../download.html http://www.k7jrl.com/pub/manuals/tek...r%20Supply.pdf BTDT, haven't yet read them front to back. Get some tuner cleaner and spritz the pot. Its just dirty. That was my first thought. Remember..I did offer you newer and much nicer scopes...shrug Yabbut, they were larger and AC only. -- A sound mind in a sound body is a short but full description of a happy state in this world. -- John Locke |
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On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 06:03:18 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Sat, 21 Feb 2015 03:56:14 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 20:54:47 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 07:06:12 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 04:50:54 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 19 Feb 2015 03:58:24 -0800, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 19:34:53 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote: My "good" meter is a Mastech MS8209. 'Taint a Fluke, but I don't need one. I've happily used the sound meter, thermocouple, LUX meter (recently on LEDs to test relative output/efficiency), and love the beeping ohmeter. The clamp-on has a beeper, too. Sigh..my hearing has so many holes in it..I generally cant hear beeping anymore. I went for a hearing test some years ago..and the tech stood there reading the printout..looked up, blinked..and asked if Id had a serious head injury. My hearing results looked like it had been shot with a shotgun. That, and too many rifle and handgun rounds, eh? Or do you wear ear protection on the range? Suckage about your hearing holes and not being able to hear the beeps. I adore that function of the VOMs, especially for repetitive testing in tight places. I was the recipient of a H&I round of 155 mm arty which lodged a bit of driving band in my skull and shredded both of my eardrums. Friendly fire? Bummer! Its never friendly. And it was fired by our Arvin brothers, or so they told me. Probably under the orders of some half stoned American cannon cocker... sigh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TBl9cwanbI Jayzuss! You can really hear the shrapnel whizzing on by, can't you? Well, if you weren't hit by it and had your eardrums shredded. Crazy, mon! Oh hell yes you can hear it. I dont remember the round that hit me..I have a half memory of a bright flash and then a day or so of being jostled around a lot. My Chu Hoi got me to a firebase..they stuck me on a slick and sent me to Saigon..then on to Honchu Japan where they cracked open my skull and pulled the little ******* out of my skull. I was blind and paralysed for over a week after coming out of the surgery. Id planned on doing myself in first chance I could..then things started working again. Got everything back within a month or so. Learned what a rat**** Letterman Hospital was in 1973 the hard way. Suckage. I haven't even opened it yet. A little RF dimmer switch with remote came in the mail today and I soldered a jack to the LED string. It works beautifully with the (low light) single 3528s. I'll be using it on one of these strings: hi-dens 3528 (120/m) or single 5630s (60/m or 300 per 5m string.) It cost $2.82 with free shipping from Shenzen, China. New switching (vs xfrm) wall wart p/s are $2.60 with free shipping. Get a couple of the dimmers and keep one in your pocket, the other velcroed to the bulkhead of your fave boat and have mood lighting. High for reading, low for lurking. Go 5050 or 5630 for the brightness, though a single string of 3528s would light up that little cabin pretty nicely, I'll bet. Doing just that is high on my list. Saturday Im fiberglassing the rudder, which I turned into a "lifting rudder" last weekend. Just a few more things to do..not much at all. This has been an easy restoration. Now comes the gold plating and fun stuff to make it "nice". Installing the marine radio, stereo system, carpeting the walls..I think she is going to be my "regular" boat. Gold plating the terlit seat, no doubt? https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...2/Windrose1802 Where will you _ever_ find replacement carpet in that color? No where. That was the original carpet under there in 1976, Thats where the porta ****ter goes and is generally hidden. Ill find some thin gray indoor/outdoor and rubber cement it to the sides of the hull. Just to make it softer and more comfy when spending a weekend out on her. Soon as I get the rudder finished, while waiting for the glass to cure, Ill start on the racks/shelves at the rear of the cabin behind the cockpit. I brought home some marine plywood last night, just some bits and pieces big enough to make Stuff out of. About a half sheet. Ill go out in the morning take measurements, figure out what Im trying to accomplish then lay it out and start up the table saw. Fortunately this boat is a trailer sailer..so will be spending most of her time on dry land where its dry...so I dont have to get as fancy fiberglassing and sealing the woodwork (plywood..not teak). If it lasts for 10 yrs, Ill be happy. That Venture 24 is going to be something of a palace when its done, else Ill have found a different bigger boat (inside) Im just teaching myself to do restorations and have fun and spend little money while doing it. Just a hobby..nothing more. The Aglient DVM was working last time I used it. It isnt now? Dont remember if we tried it or not when you were here. I don't recall, either, but it's not. Whats it doing or not doing? No pretty lights upon powerup. Hummm,..,try a different power cord. Is it possible to get replacement batteries for the 422, um, on _our_ kind of budget? Or should I pop an $18 7ah glass mat SLA in there, for use off-grid? I need to get some contact cleaner for that intensity switch, too. It drops out from about 0-80% brightness, then blinks on a bit too bright, though the focus helps reduce the phosphor bloom a bit. You would have to build/rebuild the battery pack. IRRC they were Nicads. There is a fair amount of info on the net, it being one of the more popular older Tektronix scopes. Subscribe to the Tektronics group(s) on Yahoo Groups and ask around as well. This might help http://elektrotanya.com/tektronix_42.../download.html http://www.k7jrl.com/pub/manuals/tek...r%20Supply.pdf BTDT, haven't yet read them front to back. Get some tuner cleaner and spritz the pot. Its just dirty. That was my first thought. Remember..I did offer you newer and much nicer scopes...shrug Yabbut, they were larger and AC only. True indeed. I did have a smaller one that runs on batts..but it is only a 2mhz scope Gunner "At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child, miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied, demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless. Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats." PJ O'Rourke |
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Harbor Freight for the Strategic Shopper
On 2/18/2015 12:55 AM, amdx wrote:
I keep looking at that compound sliding miter saw that goes on sale for $89. ... I have that one & it is handy. Mine needed quite a bit of fiddling to get it right. The biggest issue was that the detents on the horizontal angle settings were too sloppy. I rebuilt the bolt that sits in the detents and it's fine now. There were 1 or 2 other fixed that I've forgotten ... the bottom line is be prepared to fix it if you care about how it works. Bob |
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On 2/17/2015 9:53 PM, Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney wrote: "Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" wrote in message ... "Snuffy "Hub Cap" McKinney" wrote in message ... Welp! Today I had a bunch of 20% off coupons ready to expired, so I put on my plaid long sleeve shirt, dark glasses and camouflaged cap, went in and bought a nice drill. Then went back to the car, changed shirts, took off the cap and sunglasses, went back in and bought a nice saw. Then went back out, took off the shirt and went back in my tee shirt and a floppy hat and bought a tarp. I still had coupons but ran out of clothes. $5 says that both tools break within a year. Tomorrow is the expiration date. I plan to wear bicycle shorts underneath some overalls, a raincoat and a poncho. Anybody know if thrift stores still carry wigs? I keep looking at that compound sliding miter saw that goes on sale for $89. I have a miter saw and a radial arm, but that compound sliding miter saw would be handy on occasion. I just now note they have 3 versions. With some differences in miter capacity and bevel cut capacity and RPM. It seems the laser guide has the least capacity. I'm glad I noticed this, I don't want to see the low capacity unit go on sale and me jump on it then find out the limited capacity. http://www.harborfreight.com/10-in-c...tem-61973.html http://www.harborfreight.com/10-in-s...saw-61307.html http://www.harborfreight.com/10-inch...saw-98199.html We just recently got a store opened in our city. My wife went shopping there and bought some wheels for a cart, she even got the free multimeter as a gift for me! Mikek Being a wize investor, extry thrifty, etc., I keep an envelope in the Studebaker with a handful of 20% off and free gift coupons. Last count I had 3 tape measures, 3 multimeters, 4 screwdriver sets couple of tarps and a 24-pack of AA batteries. Only thing bad free thing I have gotten there so far has been the batteries - I went thru the whole pack and found 2 good ones. |
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