Copper pipe chopping
 

Copper pipes have different scrap values, depending on whether there
are soldered joints, or not.

I sometimes come across copper pipes that have good non-soldered
sections and some soldered sections. I would like to separate soldered
from non-soldered sections cheaply.

Bandsawing that stuff is 1) wasteful and 2) expensive due to labor
cost.

To that end, I want to make a copper pipe chopper that would be used
with my hydraulic press shown he

http://www.machinerymoverschicago.co...Press.jpg.html

So, I want to build something that would be press-powered and cut
copper only (no hard metals).

My question is what is the best design and do I need special steel for
blades or regular steel will suffice?

The diameter should be up to 4 inches capacity.

Thanks

i

Copper pipe chopping
 

Ignoramus19161 fired this volley in
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My question is what is the best design and do I need special steel for
blades or regular steel will suffice?

The diameter should be up to 4 inches capacity.

Ig, if crushing the pipe isn't an issue (didn't figure it would be for
scrap) get thyself a log splitter wedge. It's good tough steel, will
keep a sharp edge for a while, and is almost always weldable (and re-
sharpenable).

That on a platen softer than the wedge but harder than the copper should
do the trick.

LLoyd

Copper pipe chopping
 

"Ignoramus19161" wrote in message
...
Copper pipes have different scrap values, depending on whether there
are soldered joints, or not.

I sometimes come across copper pipes that have good non-soldered
sections and some soldered sections. I would like to separate soldered
from non-soldered sections cheaply.

Bandsawing that stuff is 1) wasteful and 2) expensive due to labor
cost.

To that end, I want to make a copper pipe chopper that would be used
with my hydraulic press shown he

http://www.machinerymoverschicago.co...Press.jpg.html

So, I want to build something that would be press-powered and cut
copper only (no hard metals).

My question is what is the best design and do I need special steel for
blades or regular steel will suffice?

The diameter should be up to 4 inches capacity.

A friend uses a big old paper guillotine [no guard fitted] for exactly this
job. Cuts copper like butter.

JB

Copper pipe chopping
 

On Friday, April 4, 2014 3:45:49 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus19161 wrote:

I sometimes come across copper pipes that have good non-soldered
sections and some soldered sections. I would like to separate soldered
from non-soldered sections cheaply.

So, I want to build something that would be press-powered and cut
copper only...
The diameter should be up to 4 inches capacity.

It seems like you want to take the workpiece to the press? I'd rather
use a simple pipe cutter (tool that looks like a C-clamp, with
rotating cutterwheel). They come in all sizes, including some that
work well in crowded spots.

It isn't much work to make a cut- no powertool safety issues.

Copper pipe chopping
 

On Fri, 04 Apr 2014 17:45:49 -0500, Ignoramus19161
wrote:

Copper pipes have different scrap values, depending on whether there
are soldered joints, or not.

I sometimes come across copper pipes that have good non-soldered
sections and some soldered sections. I would like to separate soldered
from non-soldered sections cheaply.

Bandsawing that stuff is 1) wasteful and 2) expensive due to labor
cost.

To that end, I want to make a copper pipe chopper that would be used
with my hydraulic press shown he

http://www.machinerymoverschicago.co...Press.jpg.html

So, I want to build something that would be press-powered and cut
copper only (no hard metals).

My question is what is the best design and do I need special steel for
blades or regular steel will suffice?

The diameter should be up to 4 inches capacity.

I know you just want another project to keep you busy, Ig, but why
don't you use a multi-disced pipe cutter? They're FAST!
https://www.ridgid.com/us/en/4-wheel-pipe-cutters
1/2 to 2-1/2", and 2-1/2-4" models are available. $50-60 eBay

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On 2014-04-04, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Ignoramus19161 fired this volley in
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My question is what is the best design and do I need special steel for
blades or regular steel will suffice?

The diameter should be up to 4 inches capacity.

Ig, if crushing the pipe isn't an issue (didn't figure it would be for
scrap)

Not an issue

get thyself a log splitter wedge. It's good tough steel, will
keep a sharp edge for a while, and is almost always weldable (and re-
sharpenable).

That on a platen softer than the wedge but harder than the copper
should do the trick.

OK, looks like a fun, easy project and the result will be safe to use.

i

Copper pipe chopping
 

On Fri, 04 Apr 2014 21:24:21 -0500, Ignoramus19161
wrote:

On 2014-04-04, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Ignoramus19161 fired this volley in
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My question is what is the best design and do I need special steel for
blades or regular steel will suffice?

The diameter should be up to 4 inches capacity.

Ig, if crushing the pipe isn't an issue (didn't figure it would be for
scrap)

Not an issue

get thyself a log splitter wedge. It's good tough steel, will
keep a sharp edge for a while, and is almost always weldable (and re-
sharpenable).

That on a platen softer than the wedge but harder than the copper
should do the trick.

OK, looks like a fun, easy project and the result will be safe to use.

i
A sharp axe and a hardwood chopping block would work. I have cut up
aluminium screen door sections this way to make thm more convenient to
handle.
---

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London,Canada

Copper pipe chopping
 

On 4/4/2014 6:45 PM, Ignoramus19161 wrote:
Copper pipes have different scrap values, depending on whether there
are soldered joints, or not.

I sometimes come across copper pipes that have good non-soldered
sections and some soldered sections. I would like to separate soldered
from non-soldered sections cheaply.

Bandsawing that stuff is 1) wasteful and 2) expensive due to labor
cost.

To that end, I want to make a copper pipe chopper that would be used
with my hydraulic press shown he

http://www.machinerymoverschicago.co...Press.jpg.html

So, I want to build something that would be press-powered and cut
copper only (no hard metals).

My question is what is the best design and do I need special steel for
blades or regular steel will suffice?

The diameter should be up to 4 inches capacity.

Thanks

i



How about a "Lopper" mini chainsaw?

Copper pipe chopping
 

On 05-Apr-14 6:45 AM, Ignoramus19161 wrote:
Copper pipes have different scrap values, depending on whether there
are soldered joints, or not.

I sometimes come across copper pipes that have good non-soldered
sections and some soldered sections. I would like to separate soldered
from non-soldered sections cheaply.

Bandsawing that stuff is 1) wasteful and 2) expensive due to labor
cost.

To that end, I want to make a copper pipe chopper that would be used
with my hydraulic press shown he

http://www.machinerymoverschicago.co...Press.jpg.html

So, I want to build something that would be press-powered and cut
copper only (no hard metals).

My question is what is the best design and do I need special steel for
blades or regular steel will suffice?

The diameter should be up to 4 inches capacity.

Thanks

i



Just an idea - my local scrappy has what looks like a large set of
bench shears that are hydraulically driven. He cuts aluminium
extrusions, heavy cable, pipe, just about anything with it.

Copper pipe chopping
 

On 2014-04-05, Belleman wrote:
On 05-Apr-14 6:45 AM, Ignoramus19161 wrote:
Copper pipes have different scrap values, depending on whether there
are soldered joints, or not.

I sometimes come across copper pipes that have good non-soldered
sections and some soldered sections. I would like to separate soldered
from non-soldered sections cheaply.

Bandsawing that stuff is 1) wasteful and 2) expensive due to labor
cost.

To that end, I want to make a copper pipe chopper that would be used
with my hydraulic press shown he

http://www.machinerymoverschicago.co...Press.jpg.html

So, I want to build something that would be press-powered and cut
copper only (no hard metals).

My question is what is the best design and do I need special steel for
blades or regular steel will suffice?

The diameter should be up to 4 inches capacity.

Thanks

i



Just an idea - my local scrappy has what looks like a large set of
bench shears that are hydraulically driven. He cuts aluminium
extrusions, heavy cable, pipe, just about anything with it.



Yes, this is exactly what I want!!!

i

Copper pipe chopping
 

On 05-Apr-14 6:40 PM, Ignoramus10660 wrote:
On 2014-04-05, Belleman wrote:
On 05-Apr-14 6:45 AM, Ignoramus19161 wrote:
Copper pipes have different scrap values, depending on whether there
are soldered joints, or not.

I sometimes come across copper pipes that have good non-soldered
sections and some soldered sections. I would like to separate soldered
from non-soldered sections cheaply.

Bandsawing that stuff is 1) wasteful and 2) expensive due to labor
cost.

To that end, I want to make a copper pipe chopper that would be used
with my hydraulic press shown he

http://www.machinerymoverschicago.co...Press.jpg.html

So, I want to build something that would be press-powered and cut
copper only (no hard metals).

My question is what is the best design and do I need special steel for
blades or regular steel will suffice?

The diameter should be up to 4 inches capacity.

Thanks

i



Just an idea - my local scrappy has what looks like a large set of
bench shears that are hydraulically driven. He cuts aluminium
extrusions, heavy cable, pipe, just about anything with it.



Yes, this is exactly what I want!!!

i



The guys I sell scrap to use one like this, only smaller.

http://jmcrecycling.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/320-alligator-shear-3.jpg

Copper pipe chopping
 

On 2014-04-05, wrote:
On Fri, 04 Apr 2014 21:24:21 -0500, Ignoramus19161
wrote:

On 2014-04-04, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Ignoramus19161 fired this volley in
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My question is what is the best design and do I need special steel for
blades or regular steel will suffice?

The diameter should be up to 4 inches capacity.

Ig, if crushing the pipe isn't an issue (didn't figure it would be for
scrap)

Not an issue

I saw something which would do the job for you at a hamfest
today (well ... yesterday by now.

It was a service kit for some kind of "Jaws Of Life" setup. I
forget the actual name. It had an arc shaped anvil, and a blade like
about 1/3 of a disc (blued steel, and getting thicker towards the
cylinder), and it was driven by a hydraulic cylinder. It was quite
hefty.

It looks like it would be quite comfortable with 4" diameter
copper. I didn't price it, nor do I remember who was selling it, but
you might look for something like this.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 16:22:36 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
wrote:

On Friday, April 4, 2014 3:45:49 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus19161 wrote:

I sometimes come across copper pipes that have good non-soldered
sections and some soldered sections. I would like to separate soldered
from non-soldered sections cheaply.

So, I want to build something that would be press-powered and cut
copper only...
The diameter should be up to 4 inches capacity.

It seems like you want to take the workpiece to the press? I'd rather
use a simple pipe cutter (tool that looks like a C-clamp, with
rotating cutterwheel). They come in all sizes, including some that
work well in crowded spots.

It isn't much work to make a cut- no powertool safety issues.

A Sawzall has always worked nicely for me.

Gunner

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On Fri, 04 Apr 2014 17:45:49 -0500, Ignoramus19161
wrote:

Copper pipes have different scrap values, depending on whether there
are soldered joints, or not.

I sometimes come across copper pipes that have good non-soldered
sections and some soldered sections. I would like to separate soldered
from non-soldered sections cheaply.

Snip..

Will your scarp metal dealer trust you with the ends of the pipe crimped? One
could hide a length of rebar inside.
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On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 23:48:01 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 16:22:36 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
wrote:

On Friday, April 4, 2014 3:45:49 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus19161 wrote:

I sometimes come across copper pipes that have good non-soldered
sections and some soldered sections. I would like to separate soldered
from non-soldered sections cheaply.

So, I want to build something that would be press-powered and cut
copper only...
The diameter should be up to 4 inches capacity.

It seems like you want to take the workpiece to the press? I'd rather
use a simple pipe cutter (tool that looks like a C-clamp, with
rotating cutterwheel). They come in all sizes, including some that
work well in crowded spots.

It isn't much work to make a cut- no powertool safety issues.

A Sawzall has always worked nicely for me.

Yeah, they're quick, but Ig doesn't want to waste a few ounces of
copper each cut on large pipe. It adds up after filling a truck with
cut pieces. Plus, catching all the filings is damned frustrating and
time consuming. I'd want the same thing if I had lots of scrap.

He can build a portable alligator-jawed press quickly and cheaply, if
he can't find a used one for a song.

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of a bad, while telling him not to defend himself or his fellows;
in no way can the success of evil be made quicker or surer.
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Copper pipe chopping
 

On 2014-04-06, Boris Mohar wrote:
On Fri, 04 Apr 2014 17:45:49 -0500, Ignoramus19161
wrote:

Copper pipes have different scrap values, depending on whether there
are soldered joints, or not.

I sometimes come across copper pipes that have good non-soldered
sections and some soldered sections. I would like to separate soldered
from non-soldered sections cheaply.

Snip..

Will your scarp metal dealer trust you with the ends of the pipe crimped? One
could hide a length of rebar inside.

I can always ask my chopping guy to open up the ends, with the same
chopping press, just press down at 90 degrees less than fully cutting,
they will open. Scrap dealers around here are very smart and not easy
to cheat.

i

Copper pipe chopping
 

On 2014-04-06, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 23:48:01 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 16:22:36 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
wrote:

On Friday, April 4, 2014 3:45:49 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus19161 wrote:

I sometimes come across copper pipes that have good non-soldered
sections and some soldered sections. I would like to separate soldered
from non-soldered sections cheaply.

So, I want to build something that would be press-powered and cut
copper only...
The diameter should be up to 4 inches capacity.

It seems like you want to take the workpiece to the press? I'd rather
use a simple pipe cutter (tool that looks like a C-clamp, with
rotating cutterwheel). They come in all sizes, including some that
work well in crowded spots.

It isn't much work to make a cut- no powertool safety issues.

A Sawzall has always worked nicely for me.

Yeah, they're quick, but Ig doesn't want to waste a few ounces of
copper each cut on large pipe. It adds up after filling a truck with
cut pieces. Plus, catching all the filings is damned frustrating and
time consuming. I'd want the same thing if I had lots of scrap.


It is both, time, an copper sawdust, that I want to save.

i

he can't find a used one for a song.

Copper pipe chopping
 

Someone else suggested using the ram from a log splitter - why not just
scrounge a complete log splitter?

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On 2014-04-06, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 23:48:01 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 16:22:36 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
wrote:

On Friday, April 4, 2014 3:45:49 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus19161 wrote:

I sometimes come across copper pipes that have good non-soldered
sections and some soldered sections. I would like to separate soldered
from non-soldered sections cheaply.

So, I want to build something that would be press-powered and cut
copper only...
The diameter should be up to 4 inches capacity.

It seems like you want to take the workpiece to the press? I'd rather
use a simple pipe cutter (tool that looks like a C-clamp, with
rotating cutterwheel). They come in all sizes, including some that
work well in crowded spots.

It isn't much work to make a cut- no powertool safety issues.

A Sawzall has always worked nicely for me.

Yeah, they're quick, but Ig doesn't want to waste a few ounces of
copper each cut on large pipe. It adds up after filling a truck with
cut pieces. Plus, catching all the filings is damned frustrating and
time consuming. I'd want the same thing if I had lots of scrap.


It is both, time, an copper sawdust, that I want to save.

i

he can't find a used one for a song.

Copper pipe chopping
 

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:46:16 -0500, Ignoramus30810
wrote:

On 2014-04-06, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 23:48:01 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Fri, 4 Apr 2014 16:22:36 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd
wrote:

On Friday, April 4, 2014 3:45:49 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus19161 wrote:

I sometimes come across copper pipes that have good non-soldered
sections and some soldered sections. I would like to separate soldered
from non-soldered sections cheaply.

So, I want to build something that would be press-powered and cut
copper only...
The diameter should be up to 4 inches capacity.

It seems like you want to take the workpiece to the press? I'd rather
use a simple pipe cutter (tool that looks like a C-clamp, with
rotating cutterwheel). They come in all sizes, including some that
work well in crowded spots.

It isn't much work to make a cut- no powertool safety issues.

A Sawzall has always worked nicely for me.

Yeah, they're quick, but Ig doesn't want to waste a few ounces of
copper each cut on large pipe. It adds up after filling a truck with
cut pieces. Plus, catching all the filings is damned frustrating and
time consuming. I'd want the same thing if I had lots of scrap.


It is both, time, an copper sawdust, that I want to save.

Simply cut the copper with the saw over a big cardboard box. Copper
sawdust is heavy and it doesnt fly very far.



i

he can't find a used one for a song.


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On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 21:52:03 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:46:16 -0500, Ignoramus30810
wrote:

On 2014-04-06, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 23:48:01 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:
A Sawzall has always worked nicely for me.

Yeah, they're quick, but Ig doesn't want to waste a few ounces of
copper each cut on large pipe. It adds up after filling a truck with
cut pieces. Plus, catching all the filings is damned frustrating and
time consuming. I'd want the same thing if I had lots of scrap.


It is both, time, an copper sawdust, that I want to save.

Simply cut the copper with the saw over a big cardboard box. Copper
sawdust is heavy and it doesnt fly very far.

Yabbut, you lose half of it down the tubes, which aren't always easy
to tilt into the box. OK, it's doable but not worth the hassle.

--
No greater wrong can ever be done than to put a good man at the mercy
of a bad, while telling him not to defend himself or his fellows;
in no way can the success of evil be made quicker or surer.
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Larry Jaques on Sun, 06 Apr 2014
22:16:28 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 21:52:03 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:46:16 -0500, Ignoramus30810 wrote:
On 2014-04-06, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 23:48:01 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:
A Sawzall has always worked nicely for me.

Yeah, they're quick, but Ig doesn't want to waste a few ounces of
copper each cut on large pipe. It adds up after filling a truck with
cut pieces. Plus, catching all the filings is damned frustrating and
time consuming. I'd want the same thing if I had lots of scrap.

It is both, time, an copper sawdust, that I want to save.

Simply cut the copper with the saw over a big cardboard box. Copper
sawdust is heavy and it doesnt fly very far.

Yabbut, you lose half of it down the tubes, which aren't always easy
to tilt into the box. OK, it's doable but not worth the hassle.

As my boss would say on occasion, you're trying to pick the fly
**** out of the pepper.
Unless the copper sawdust is going to be a major fraction of the
total copper (I.e., you have a very small amount of copper pipe), you
are intending to spend a lot of time to save fractions of a penny. But
if that is your intent, then it is time to get out the pipe cutter,
and just spin it round and round and round. If you think that your
time is more valuable - hire someone else to do that.
Or get the sawzall, and just saw the pipe up.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

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On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 09:23:18 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Larry Jaques on Sun, 06 Apr 2014
22:16:28 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 21:52:03 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:46:16 -0500, Ignoramus30810 wrote:
On 2014-04-06, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 23:48:01 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:
A Sawzall has always worked nicely for me.

Yeah, they're quick, but Ig doesn't want to waste a few ounces of
copper each cut on large pipe. It adds up after filling a truck with
cut pieces. Plus, catching all the filings is damned frustrating and
time consuming. I'd want the same thing if I had lots of scrap.

It is both, time, an copper sawdust, that I want to save.

Simply cut the copper with the saw over a big cardboard box. Copper
sawdust is heavy and it doesnt fly very far.

Yabbut, you lose half of it down the tubes, which aren't always easy
to tilt into the box. OK, it's doable but not worth the hassle.

As my boss would say on occasion, you're trying to pick the fly
**** out of the pepper.
Unless the copper sawdust is going to be a major fraction of the
total copper (I.e., you have a very small amount of copper pipe), you
are intending to spend a lot of time to save fractions of a penny. But
if that is your intent, then it is time to get out the pipe cutter,
and just spin it round and round and round. If you think that your
time is more valuable - hire someone else to do that.
Or get the sawzall, and just saw the pipe up.

I certainly see Ig's points. By cutting it cleanly:

Waste is eliminated.
Time is saved.
Cleanup is eliminated, or drastically diminished.

Triple win. Plus, with a fast-acting shear, it could be even faster.
Weld/bolt a hook onto the end of the cutter, or use a toothed cutter
to keep the pipe in the machine as it shears.

--
No greater wrong can ever be done than to put a good man at the mercy
of a bad, while telling him not to defend himself or his fellows;
in no way can the success of evil be made quicker or surer.
--Theodore Roosevelt

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On 2014-04-07, Larry Jaques wrote:
I certainly see Ig's points. By cutting it cleanly:

Waste is eliminated.
Time is saved.
Cleanup is eliminated, or drastically diminished.

Triple win. Plus, with a fast-acting shear, it could be even faster.
Weld/bolt a hook onto the end of the cutter, or use a toothed cutter
to keep the pipe in the machine as it shears.


Yes, it is mostly about the labor cost. Value of sawdust is also a
factor, just not as big.

i

Copper pipe chopping
 

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:16:28 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 21:52:03 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:46:16 -0500, Ignoramus30810
wrote:

On 2014-04-06, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 23:48:01 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:
A Sawzall has always worked nicely for me.

Yeah, they're quick, but Ig doesn't want to waste a few ounces of
copper each cut on large pipe. It adds up after filling a truck with
cut pieces. Plus, catching all the filings is damned frustrating and
time consuming. I'd want the same thing if I had lots of scrap.


It is both, time, an copper sawdust, that I want to save.

Simply cut the copper with the saw over a big cardboard box. Copper
sawdust is heavy and it doesnt fly very far.

Yabbut, you lose half of it down the tubes, which aren't always easy
to tilt into the box. OK, it's doable but not worth the hassle.

Ok..now about the hassle of building a hydraulic shear.....?

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Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?

I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, “Give me the short answer.”

I thought for a moment and said, “If you try to take our firearms we will kill you.”"

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Gunner Asch on Mon, 07 Apr 2014 11:45:23 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:16:28 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 21:52:03 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:46:16 -0500, Ignoramus30810
wrote:

On 2014-04-06, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 23:48:01 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:
A Sawzall has always worked nicely for me.

Yeah, they're quick, but Ig doesn't want to waste a few ounces of
copper each cut on large pipe. It adds up after filling a truck with
cut pieces. Plus, catching all the filings is damned frustrating and
time consuming. I'd want the same thing if I had lots of scrap.


It is both, time, an copper sawdust, that I want to save.

Simply cut the copper with the saw over a big cardboard box. Copper
sawdust is heavy and it doesnt fly very far.

Yabbut, you lose half of it down the tubes, which aren't always easy
to tilt into the box. OK, it's doable but not worth the hassle.

Ok..now about the hassle of building a hydraulic shear.....?

Ah, but that is different. After all, this is
"rec.craft.metalworking" so of course, doing something the 'long way'
- as long as it involved metal working - is the way to go.


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On 2014-04-07, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:16:28 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 21:52:03 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

[ ... ]

Simply cut the copper with the saw over a big cardboard box. Copper
sawdust is heavy and it doesnt fly very far.

Yabbut, you lose half of it down the tubes, which aren't always easy
to tilt into the box. OK, it's doable but not worth the hassle.

Ok..now about the hassle of building a hydraulic shear.....?

*That* isn't a hassle -- it is a *project* -- and thus fun. :-)

Here is an example of a common hydraulic shear:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hydraulic_rescue_tools

scroll down about half-way, to the section "Cutter"

Not the same format as the one I saw at a hamfest, but looks
like it would work for the task, too.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 11:45:23 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:16:28 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 21:52:03 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:46:16 -0500, Ignoramus30810
wrote:

On 2014-04-06, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 23:48:01 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:
A Sawzall has always worked nicely for me.

Yeah, they're quick, but Ig doesn't want to waste a few ounces of
copper each cut on large pipe. It adds up after filling a truck with
cut pieces. Plus, catching all the filings is damned frustrating and
time consuming. I'd want the same thing if I had lots of scrap.


It is both, time, an copper sawdust, that I want to save.

Simply cut the copper with the saw over a big cardboard box. Copper
sawdust is heavy and it doesnt fly very far.

Yabbut, you lose half of it down the tubes, which aren't always easy
to tilt into the box. OK, it's doable but not worth the hassle.

Ok..now about the hassle of building a hydraulic shear.....?

blink You don't get it?

There are 50 New Toy points riding on this, sir. Ya gotta think it
through. ;)

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of a bad, while telling him not to defend himself or his fellows;
in no way can the success of evil be made quicker or surer.
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On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 20:55:43 -0700, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Gunner Asch on Mon, 07 Apr 2014 11:45:23 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:16:28 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 21:52:03 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:46:16 -0500, Ignoramus30810
wrote:

On 2014-04-06, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 23:48:01 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:
A Sawzall has always worked nicely for me.

Yeah, they're quick, but Ig doesn't want to waste a few ounces of
copper each cut on large pipe. It adds up after filling a truck with
cut pieces. Plus, catching all the filings is damned frustrating and
time consuming. I'd want the same thing if I had lots of scrap.


It is both, time, an copper sawdust, that I want to save.

Simply cut the copper with the saw over a big cardboard box. Copper
sawdust is heavy and it doesnt fly very far.

Yabbut, you lose half of it down the tubes, which aren't always easy
to tilt into the box. OK, it's doable but not worth the hassle.

Ok..now about the hassle of building a hydraulic shear.....?

Ah, but that is different. After all, this is
"rec.craft.metalworking" so of course, doing something the 'long way'
- as long as it involved metal working - is the way to go.

Got it! Thanks!




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On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 22:40:28 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 11:45:23 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:16:28 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 21:52:03 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:46:16 -0500, Ignoramus30810
wrote:

On 2014-04-06, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 23:48:01 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:
A Sawzall has always worked nicely for me.

Yeah, they're quick, but Ig doesn't want to waste a few ounces of
copper each cut on large pipe. It adds up after filling a truck with
cut pieces. Plus, catching all the filings is damned frustrating and
time consuming. I'd want the same thing if I had lots of scrap.


It is both, time, an copper sawdust, that I want to save.

Simply cut the copper with the saw over a big cardboard box. Copper
sawdust is heavy and it doesnt fly very far.

Yabbut, you lose half of it down the tubes, which aren't always easy
to tilt into the box. OK, it's doable but not worth the hassle.

Ok..now about the hassle of building a hydraulic shear.....?

blink You don't get it?

There are 50 New Toy points riding on this, sir. Ya gotta think it
through. ;)

I thought Iggy was trying to do this as fast as possible because he
makes money from it?????

Now if its his Hobby...oh fursure dude!


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that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?

I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, “Give me the short answer.”

I thought for a moment and said, “If you try to take our firearms we will kill you.”"

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Larry Jaques on Mon, 07 Apr 2014
22:40:28 -0700 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Mon, 07 Apr 2014 11:45:23 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 22:16:28 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 21:52:03 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 06 Apr 2014 15:46:16 -0500, Ignoramus30810
wrote:

On 2014-04-06, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 05 Apr 2014 23:48:01 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:
A Sawzall has always worked nicely for me.

Yeah, they're quick, but Ig doesn't want to waste a few ounces of
copper each cut on large pipe. It adds up after filling a truck with
cut pieces. Plus, catching all the filings is damned frustrating and
time consuming. I'd want the same thing if I had lots of scrap.


It is both, time, an copper sawdust, that I want to save.

Simply cut the copper with the saw over a big cardboard box. Copper
sawdust is heavy and it doesnt fly very far.

Yabbut, you lose half of it down the tubes, which aren't always easy
to tilt into the box. OK, it's doable but not worth the hassle.

Ok..now about the hassle of building a hydraulic shear.....?

blink You don't get it?

There are 50 New Toy points riding on this, sir. Ya gotta think it
through. ;)

New Toy points - and "Applied Scrounge Points" and "I knew I would
find a use for this some day" points and, of course "I made it
myself!" points, which is the point of the whole exercise.
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