"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 00:52:20 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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I'm looking to the post-SHTF scenarios. 12 lbs are certainly
carryable, if not likeable.

I don't think SHTF is likely, but BTDT.

Look at the vulnerability of our grid, its age, etc. and tell me
that
again. I dare ya. sigh

Ice storms destroy large areas of our grid but the power is back on
again in a week.

Look what happens to cities when one little boom-boom goes off.
Boston
is one example. Overreaction to even minor terrorism is rampant, so
think what will happen when (not if) the *******s attack again. 911
will pale in comparison, I'm sure.

Co-dependent city dwellers don't have space to prepare for much. Where
would they run generators? They aren't good examples for the rest of
us, nor are disaster films by neurotic fearmongers. Broadway actress
Lea Michele admitted to Jay Leno that she didn't even own a flashlight
when Sandy struck. I've helped urban friends who literally couldn't
change a light bulb.

Britain, Germany and Japan made a big show of operating as normally as
possible despite the bombing. Only physical invasion in Germany and
the nukes in Japan halted the functioning of their societies.

I used to run my motorcycle into the woods for the night and hide it
and my tent, so the landowner or kids wouldn't find and bother me.
Sometimes the first good spot was taken and I had to look further.
In
such a situation I lit no fire and didn't even stand up much, and
had
no need for electricity beyond the bright flashlight to blind night
intruders.

On foot, motorcycle or canoe it's hard enough to carry the
necessities to stay warm, dry and fed, never mind a weapon, ammo and
a
radio.

Perhaps for one night only, but...

My mountain hikes and wilderness canoe trips ran to a week or so,
limited by vacation time and the food I could carry. Country stores
along the route carried only heavy canned food and meat that required
refrigeration. I tread too lightly for the damage that living off the
land leaves behind.
jsw

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 11:12:13 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


Ice storms destroy large areas of our grid but the power is back on
again in a week.

They are seldom Destroyed. Broken perhaps..but seldom destroyed.


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that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?

I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, “Give me the short answer.”

I thought for a moment and said, “If you try to take our firearms we will kill you.”"

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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 11:12:13 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


Ice storms destroy large areas of our grid but the power is back on
again in a week.

They are seldom Destroyed. Broken perhaps..but seldom destroyed.

What would you call it when they have to replace broken poles and
wires and the drops on houses?

On 2014-03-14, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

They'll have to take the radio off my belt, and the speaker mic off
my shirt or jacket collar to steal it.

And I've never seen or heard of people stealing at hamfests.
(Unless you count the prices of some of the vendors. :-)

So why bother having a -red- one?


I will be selling connectors and other ham related parts, and
possibly the radios. I also like RED.

Hmm ... which connectors? Any of the Bendix style MS 311 series
ones? Three-stub bayonet locking ring. I've just had to buy a couple --
a 14-19 one, and a 20-41 one. And they are sure proud of those. :-)

Enjoy,
DoN.

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"DoN. Nichols" wrote:

On 2014-03-14, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

They'll have to take the radio off my belt, and the speaker mic off
my shirt or jacket collar to steal it.

And I've never seen or heard of people stealing at hamfests.
(Unless you count the prices of some of the vendors. :-)


I have, and it got ugly.

I also ran into someone selling stolen CATV equipment from the
company I worked for. It had service stickers with my handwriting on
each piece.

So why bother having a -red- one?


I will be selling connectors and other ham related parts, and
possibly the radios. I also like RED.

Hmm ... which connectors? Any of the Bendix style MS 311 series
ones? Three-stub bayonet locking ring. I've just had to buy a couple --
a 14-19 one, and a 20-41 one. And they are sure proud of those. :-)


I don't have many MS connectors left. What I do have are used, and
unsorted. I don't even know which of 300+ banana boxes they are in at
the moment.


I'll start with what I have on hand. Here are the connectors that
have been inventoried. From there, you can go anywhere on my small
website to see parts and manuals that will be available.

http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/Epcon.html

I am slowly sorting and inventorying the piles of parts in the shop.
I will have to go to a paid host to list everything, or put up a zipped
inventory file on my Google drive that has 15 GB of space left.


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On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 11:12:13 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 00:52:20 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...

I'm looking to the post-SHTF scenarios. 12 lbs are certainly
carryable, if not likeable.

I don't think SHTF is likely, but BTDT.

Look at the vulnerability of our grid, its age, etc. and tell me
that
again. I dare ya. sigh

Ice storms destroy large areas of our grid but the power is back on
again in a week.

Were those overload cascade failures, as a coronal ejection, etc.
could cause?


Look what happens to cities when one little boom-boom goes off.
Boston
is one example. Overreaction to even minor terrorism is rampant, so
think what will happen when (not if) the *******s attack again. 911
will pale in comparison, I'm sure.

Co-dependent city dwellers don't have space to prepare for much. Where
would they run generators? They aren't good examples for the rest of
us, nor are disaster films by neurotic fearmongers. Broadway actress
Lea Michele admitted to Jay Leno that she didn't even own a flashlight
when Sandy struck. I've helped urban friends who literally couldn't
change a light bulb.

Egad! They'll certainly be the first data set to die, won't they?



Britain, Germany and Japan made a big show of operating as normally as
possible despite the bombing. Only physical invasion in Germany and
the nukes in Japan halted the functioning of their societies.

Yabbut, when the entire society is bombed at one time...
Things are a whole lot different today, in most ways. JIT stocking
for the stores, complete indifference by most citizens (and most
gov'ts) about preparedness, and on and on.


I used to run my motorcycle into the woods for the night and hide it
and my tent, so the landowner or kids wouldn't find and bother me.
Sometimes the first good spot was taken and I had to look further.
In
such a situation I lit no fire and didn't even stand up much, and
had
no need for electricity beyond the bright flashlight to blind night
intruders.

On foot, motorcycle or canoe it's hard enough to carry the
necessities to stay warm, dry and fed, never mind a weapon, ammo and
a
radio.

Perhaps for one night only, but...

My mountain hikes and wilderness canoe trips ran to a week or so,
limited by vacation time and the food I could carry.

Today, wouldn't you carry a different stock of food and necessities?


Country stores
along the route carried only heavy canned food and meat that required
refrigeration.

That's precisely why keeping a couple week stock of food in the
vehicle is a potentially life-saving idea. Forget the 72-hr bag. Make
it two weeks when possible, in case you simply can't -get- home.


I tread too lightly for the damage that living off the
land leaves behind.

But, when the SHTF, won't that necessarily change?

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the defeat of habit by originality, overcomes everything.
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 15:57:55 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 11:12:13 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


Ice storms destroy large areas of our grid but the power is back on
again in a week.

They are seldom Destroyed. Broken perhaps..but seldom destroyed.

What would you call it when they have to replace broken poles and
wires and the drops on houses?

What happens when all the xfmrs blow at once?

--
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the defeat of habit by originality, overcomes everything.
-- George Lois

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 00:35:32 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

I plan on doing that RSN. I already bought the radio, a little
handheld Baofeng UV-5R which my ham buddy recommended.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/271283545245 Radio (Red, so you won't lose it so
easy)

Black, so it's not so gaudy in discrete positions.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281073791899 Speaker/Mic (Matches radio)

What for? Earphones work much better and don't broadcast it to the
neighborhood.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261186498353 USB Programming Cable

Got it! I found that only one of two available free programs works
with it. CHIRP did not, but VIP did. Get the program specified for
your particular serial number & chipset.


VIP didn't even see the radio, but CHIRP worked for me. Go figure!

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On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 15:57:55 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 11:12:13 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


Ice storms destroy large areas of our grid but the power is back on
again in a week.

They are seldom Destroyed. Broken perhaps..but seldom destroyed.

What would you call it when they have to replace broken poles and
wires and the drops on houses?

Broken.

When the transmission and transformer sites are burned/blown
up/out...thats destroying the system.

Gunner

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that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?

I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, “Give me the short answer.”

I thought for a moment and said, “If you try to take our firearms we will kill you.”"

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On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:35:36 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

I also ran into someone selling stolen CATV equipment from the
company I worked for. It had service stickers with my handwriting on
each piece.

Tell us!!


--

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I was once told by a “gun safety” advocate back in the Nineties
that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?

I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, “Give me the short answer.”

I thought for a moment and said, “If you try to take our firearms we will kill you.”"

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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 11:12:13 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 00:52:20 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in
message
m...

I'm looking to the post-SHTF scenarios. 12 lbs are certainly
carryable, if not likeable.

I don't think SHTF is likely, but BTDT.

Look at the vulnerability of our grid, its age, etc. and tell me
that
again. I dare ya. sigh

Ice storms destroy large areas of our grid but the power is back on
again in a week.

Were those overload cascade failures, as a coronal ejection, etc.
could cause?

Nope, ice-laden trees fall on the wires. Usually they pull the wires
loose, sometimes they take down poles. The sky flashes green or
purplish when the 19.9KV line on top arcs. I don't know the extent of
damage to transformers, and there seems to be a good stock of spares.
The power companies have become much more diligent about trimming
overhanging branches along the road so maybe the threat is less now.

Britain, Germany and Japan made a big show of operating as normally
as
possible despite the bombing. Only physical invasion in Germany and
the nukes in Japan halted the functioning of their societies.

Yabbut, when the entire society is bombed at one time...
Things are a whole lot different today, in most ways. JIT stocking
for the stores, complete indifference by most citizens (and most
gov'ts) about preparedness, and on and on.

In that extreme case I think we would revert to armed roving bands and
you might be better off joining one than being their prey. What
outdoorsman survival skills can you offer them?

Here in snow country the roads are impassable several times each
winter and people have learned to deal with it. A week without power
is just an annoyance. The towns and utilities have a lot of heavy
equipment to quickly reopen blocked or washed-out roads and repair the
infrastructure.
http://www.ccdx.org/scrapbook/SurryF...05/flood05.htm

My mountain hikes and wilderness canoe trips ran to a week or so,
limited by vacation time and the food I could carry.

Today, wouldn't you carry a different stock of food and necessities?

Tuna and granola bars now come in foil-lined packets, otherwise
there's not much difference. Mountain House packets were good enough
but expensive. I just didn't want empty non-biodegradable containers
rotting in my pack.
http://www.mountainhouse.com/

Suddenly Salad and its generic versions are a reasonable lower-cost
light-weight alternative that's not hard to clean from the pot if you
mix it with powdered creamer instead of mayonnaise packets. The
difficult cleanup without hot running water was why I didn't carry mac
and cheese, or eggs. There are boiling-bag instant meals but I don't
remember their names. Fortunately I eat to live instead of living to
eat, and liked what the Army fed us in the field.

That's precisely why keeping a couple week stock of food in the
vehicle is a potentially life-saving idea. Forget the 72-hr bag.
Make
it two weeks when possible, in case you simply can't -get- home.

In Germany I took my VW when sent on a repair mission in the middle of
the night. It had a winter sleeping bag and a case of C-rats on the
floor so I could live in it when necessary, sometimes more comfortably
than the accommodations the field site offered, or pull into the woods
for the night if I was falling asleep on the long drives home. I added
an outlet in the dash to plug in a 6VDC electric razor so I didn't
need hot water to pass inspection in the morning.

Around here food and water in the car freezes in winter and overheats
in summer. I stopped carrying a water bottle after one froze, cracked,
then melted and flooded the drawer under the seat.

You can survive for about 3 days without water, weather dependent, and
over a week without food. It's more critical to stay warm and dry.
http://adventure.howstuffworks.com/s...-and-water.htm
"The fat goes next, which explains why people with more of it can
survive longer."

http://www.historynet.com/eddie-rick...ific-ocean.htm

jsw

Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:35:36 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

I also ran into someone selling stolen CATV equipment from the
company I worked for. It had service stickers with my handwriting on
each piece.

Tell us!!


It was the Cincinnati Hamfest. The so called 'security' wasn't
interested in the fact that he had over $3,000 worth of our cable
converters. He was more interested in the Hudepol Beer Tank Truck for
the free beer. I had serviced every piece of the equipment, and I used
3/4" Avery color coding dots to make notes on the bottom of the case. He
didn't realize there was tiny writing on them. At least I got the
license plate number to turn over to a real police officer.


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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 11:12:28 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


Nope, ice-laden trees fall on the wires. Usually they pull the wires
loose, sometimes they take down poles. The sky flashes green or
purplish when the 19.9KV line on top arcs. I don't know the extent of
damage to transformers, and there seems to be a good stock of spares.
The power companies have become much more diligent about trimming
overhanging branches along the road so maybe the threat is less now.

Most transformers are equipped with many many fuses and circuit
breakers which trip in such events.

One can simply cut away the bad circuits or repair them. When the CB
in your bathroom kicks open because Momma dropped the hair dryer into
the sink..the rest of the house isnt destroyed. When the bad guys
blow up the power plant...the system is gonna be dead for quite some
time.


--

"
I was once told by a “gun safety” advocate back in the Nineties
that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?

I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, “Give me the short answer.”

I thought for a moment and said, “If you try to take our firearms we will kill you.”"

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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:27:13 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:35:36 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

I also ran into someone selling stolen CATV equipment from the
company I worked for. It had service stickers with my handwriting on
each piece.

Tell us!!


It was the Cincinnati Hamfest. The so called 'security' wasn't
interested in the fact that he had over $3,000 worth of our cable
converters. He was more interested in the Hudepol Beer Tank Truck for
the free beer. I had serviced every piece of the equipment, and I used
3/4" Avery color coding dots to make notes on the bottom of the case. He
didn't realize there was tiny writing on them. At least I got the
license plate number to turn over to a real police officer.

And then what happened?

--

"
I was once told by a “gun safety” advocate back in the Nineties
that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?

I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, “Give me the short answer.”

I thought for a moment and said, “If you try to take our firearms we will kill you.”"

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Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:27:13 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:35:36 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

I also ran into someone selling stolen CATV equipment from the
company I worked for. It had service stickers with my handwriting on
each piece.

Tell us!!


It was the Cincinnati Hamfest. The so called 'security' wasn't
interested in the fact that he had over $3,000 worth of our cable
converters. He was more interested in the Hudepol Beer Tank Truck for
the free beer. I had serviced every piece of the equipment, and I used
3/4" Avery color coding dots to make notes on the bottom of the case. He
didn't realize there was tiny writing on them. At least I got the
license plate number to turn over to a real police officer.

And then what happened?


He had already sold all of the CATV equipment, but he was caught with
other stolen goods. That was the last I heard about it, since it was
about the time I left the Cable TV business.


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have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:03:49 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:27:13 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:35:36 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

I also ran into someone selling stolen CATV equipment from the
company I worked for. It had service stickers with my handwriting on
each piece.

Tell us!!


It was the Cincinnati Hamfest. The so called 'security' wasn't
interested in the fact that he had over $3,000 worth of our cable
converters. He was more interested in the Hudepol Beer Tank Truck for
the free beer. I had serviced every piece of the equipment, and I used
3/4" Avery color coding dots to make notes on the bottom of the case. He
didn't realize there was tiny writing on them. At least I got the
license plate number to turn over to a real police officer.

And then what happened?


He had already sold all of the CATV equipment, but he was caught with
other stolen goods. That was the last I heard about it, since it was
about the time I left the Cable TV business.

You arent much of a story teller. Sigh.

Gunner

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I was once told by a “gun safety” advocate back in the Nineties
that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?

I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, “Give me the short answer.”

I thought for a moment and said, “If you try to take our firearms we will kill you.”"

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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 11:12:28 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 11:12:13 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 00:52:20 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in
message
om...

I'm looking to the post-SHTF scenarios. 12 lbs are certainly
carryable, if not likeable.

I don't think SHTF is likely, but BTDT.

Look at the vulnerability of our grid, its age, etc. and tell me
that
again. I dare ya. sigh

Ice storms destroy large areas of our grid but the power is back on
again in a week.

Were those overload cascade failures, as a coronal ejection, etc.
could cause?

Nope, ice-laden trees fall on the wires. Usually they pull the wires
loose, sometimes they take down poles. The sky flashes green or
purplish when the 19.9KV line on top arcs. I don't know the extent of
damage to transformers, and there seems to be a good stock of spares.
The power companies have become much more diligent about trimming
overhanging branches along the road so maybe the threat is less now.

Yes, they're certainly learning their lessons for the past couple
decades.


Britain, Germany and Japan made a big show of operating as normally
as
possible despite the bombing. Only physical invasion in Germany and
the nukes in Japan halted the functioning of their societies.

Yabbut, when the entire society is bombed at one time...
Things are a whole lot different today, in most ways. JIT stocking
for the stores, complete indifference by most citizens (and most
gov'ts) about preparedness, and on and on.

In that extreme case I think we would revert to armed roving bands and
you might be better off joining one than being their prey. What
outdoorsman survival skills can you offer them?

Cook. I'll stay in the camp with the women. domg


Here in snow country the roads are impassable several times each
winter and people have learned to deal with it. A week without power
is just an annoyance. The towns and utilities have a lot of heavy
equipment to quickly reopen blocked or washed-out roads and repair the
infrastructure.
http://www.ccdx.org/scrapbook/SurryF...05/flood05.htm

Loads of fun. Are you intentionally avoiding the What-Ifs? When the
terrorists finally start strafing us from inside our own country,
large areas will surely go down for long periods of time.


My mountain hikes and wilderness canoe trips ran to a week or so,
limited by vacation time and the food I could carry.

Today, wouldn't you carry a different stock of food and necessities?

Tuna and granola bars now come in foil-lined packets, otherwise

I switched to the 3.5oz packets of pink salmon. Much tastier and more
nutritious than tuna, and the cost per (smaller) packet is about the
same.


there's not much difference. Mountain House packets were good enough
but expensive. I just didn't want empty non-biodegradable containers
rotting in my pack.
http://www.mountainhouse.com/

I had some MountainHouse beef, rice, and onions for lunch. It's fair
to middlin'.


Suddenly Salad and its generic versions are a reasonable lower-cost
light-weight alternative that's not hard to clean from the pot if you
mix it with powdered creamer instead of mayonnaise packets. The
difficult cleanup without hot running water was why I didn't carry mac
and cheese, or eggs. There are boiling-bag instant meals but I don't
remember their names. Fortunately I eat to live instead of living to
eat, and liked what the Army fed us in the field.

Mac'n'cheese call for sand in the pan for cleaning. Not a problem.



That's precisely why keeping a couple week stock of food in the
vehicle is a potentially life-saving idea. Forget the 72-hr bag.
Make
it two weeks when possible, in case you simply can't -get- home.

In Germany I took my VW when sent on a repair mission in the middle of
the night. It had a winter sleeping bag and a case of C-rats on the
floor so I could live in it when necessary, sometimes more comfortably
than the accommodations the field site offered, or pull into the woods
for the night if I was falling asleep on the long drives home. I added
an outlet in the dash to plug in a 6VDC electric razor so I didn't
need hot water to pass inspection in the morning.

Cool. Are you keeping a case of rats in the vehicle now?


Around here food and water in the car freezes in winter and overheats
in summer. I stopped carrying a water bottle after one froze, cracked,
then melted and flooded the drawer under the seat.

You can survive for about 3 days without water, weather dependent, and
over a week without food. It's more critical to stay warm and dry.
http://adventure.howstuffworks.com/s...-and-water.htm
"The fat goes next, which explains why people with more of it can
survive longer."

I believe the updated data is that you can live 3 minutes without air,
3 hours without TV, 3 days without water, and 3 weeks without food. I
wouldn't want to try any of the above but the second one. g IIRC,
I'm 8 years conscious (without TV) now.


http://www.historynet.com/eddie-rick...ific-ocean.htm



Oh, I _finally_ finished wiring the solar array and am using one of
the emergency lamps, a 9w LED spots-in-a-bubble, as a computer reading
light. The sunlight at 4:22pm today was on the array but at an80
degree angle, so the panels were putting out just 4.62v. I'm curious
to see how long they put out during the day. If too short, I may
build a lazy susan tracker for it and add batteries.

--
Creativity can solve almost any problem. The creative act,
the defeat of habit by originality, overcomes everything.
-- George Lois

On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:27:13 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:35:36 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

I also ran into someone selling stolen CATV equipment from the
company I worked for. It had service stickers with my handwriting on
each piece.

Tell us!!


It was the Cincinnati Hamfest. The so called 'security' wasn't
interested in the fact that he had over $3,000 worth of our cable
converters. He was more interested in the Hudepol Beer Tank Truck for
the free beer. I had serviced every piece of the equipment, and I used
3/4" Avery color coding dots to make notes on the bottom of the case. He
didn't realize there was tiny writing on them. At least I got the
license plate number to turn over to a real police officer.

I hope you also turned in the name of the idiot to the fair officials
and police. Maybe they'd like to check his record a bit more closely.

--
Creativity can solve almost any problem. The creative act,
the defeat of habit by originality, overcomes everything.
-- George Lois

On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 03:58:25 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 00:35:32 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

I plan on doing that RSN. I already bought the radio, a little
handheld Baofeng UV-5R which my ham buddy recommended.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/271283545245 Radio (Red, so you won't lose it so
easy)

Black, so it's not so gaudy in discrete positions.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281073791899 Speaker/Mic (Matches radio)

What for? Earphones work much better and don't broadcast it to the
neighborhood.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261186498353 USB Programming Cable

Got it! I found that only one of two available free programs works
with it. CHIRP did not, but VIP did. Get the program specified for
your particular serial number & chipset.


VIP didn't even see the radio, but CHIRP worked for me. Go figure!

Weird. Did you download the one for your serial number?

--
Creativity can solve almost any problem. The creative act,
the defeat of habit by originality, overcomes everything.
-- George Lois

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 11:12:13 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 00:52:20 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
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I'm looking to the post-SHTF scenarios....

In that extreme case I think we would revert to armed roving bands
and
you might be better off joining one than being their prey. What
outdoorsman survival skills can you offer them?

Cook. I'll stay in the camp with the women. domg

Once you've had enough of their griping about the Call of Nature and
making you scrub the burnt pots with your handy chin hair you may
prefer to stay in the dump with the rats.

Loads of fun. Are you intentionally avoiding the What-Ifs? When
the
terrorists finally start strafing us from inside our own country,
large areas will surely go down for long periods of time.

Sure, I'm ready, got my 20mm Oerlikon for when sharks cross-breed with
flying fish and dive out of the sky like kamikazes. No damn buffalo
gonna roam in my home!

Read about the Provos in Belfast or the OAS in France to see what
might really happen in your scenario. Beirut and Sarajevo won't happen
without strong armed forces on both sides. I was frequently on the
road in a lone US military vehicle during the Baader-Meinhof, Munich
Olympics period in Germany. They let us carry M-16s and .45s. That's a
large part of why I preferred the inconspicuous VW.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction

http://www.baader-meinhof.com/tag/heidelberg/
Only luck kept me away from the Heidelberg blast.

BMWs sported bumper stickers proclaiming that they were not Baader
Meinhof Wagons. Instead of being terrorized the country treated them
like Bonnie and Clyde.

In Germany I took my VW when sent on a repair mission in the middle
of
the night. It had a winter sleeping bag and a case of C-rats on the
floor so I could live in it when necessary, sometimes more
comfortably
than the accommodations the field site offered, or pull into the
woods
for the night if I was falling asleep on the long drives home. I
added
an outlet in the dash to plug in a 6VDC electric razor so I didn't
need hot water to pass inspection in the morning.

Cool. Are you keeping a case of rats in the vehicle now?

I'm no longer on call 24/7 to fix something 200 miles away in an
unfamiliar foreign country. I carry a cell phone and business cards of
all the local towing companies.

You can survive for about 3 days without water, weather dependent,
and
over a week without food. It's more critical to stay warm and dry.
http://adventure.howstuffworks.com/s...-and-water.htm
"The fat goes next, which explains why people with more of it can
survive longer."

I believe the updated data is that you can live 3 minutes without
air,
3 hours without TV, 3 days without water, and 3 weeks without food.
I
wouldn't want to try any of the above but the second one. g
IIRC,
I'm 8 years conscious (without TV) now.

Oh, I _finally_ finished wiring the solar array and am using one of
the emergency lamps, a 9w LED spots-in-a-bubble, as a computer
reading
light. The sunlight at 4:22pm today was on the array but at an80
degree angle, so the panels were putting out just 4.62v. I'm
curious
to see how long they put out during the day. If too short, I may
build a lazy susan tracker for it and add batteries.

Did I mention that the current software release for this meter
http://www.amazon.com/TekPower-TP400...037891-6841520
allows multiple installations of the program, so you can assemble a
datalogger with up to four voltage / current/ temperature inputs?
Since they are optically isolated you can measure voltage and current
without accidentally shorting power leads together. The log files are
separate but easily combined and graphed in a spreadsheet.

jsw

Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:03:49 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:27:13 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:35:36 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

I also ran into someone selling stolen CATV equipment from the
company I worked for. It had service stickers with my handwriting on
each piece.

Tell us!!


It was the Cincinnati Hamfest. The so called 'security' wasn't
interested in the fact that he had over $3,000 worth of our cable
converters. He was more interested in the Hudepol Beer Tank Truck for
the free beer. I had serviced every piece of the equipment, and I used
3/4" Avery color coding dots to make notes on the bottom of the case. He
didn't realize there was tiny writing on them. At least I got the
license plate number to turn over to a real police officer.

And then what happened?


He had already sold all of the CATV equipment, but he was caught with
other stolen goods. That was the last I heard about it, since it was
about the time I left the Cable TV business.

You arent much of a story teller. Sigh.


The truth is rarely entertaining.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 03:58:25 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

On Mon, 03 Mar 2014 00:35:32 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Larry Jaques wrote:

I plan on doing that RSN. I already bought the radio, a little
handheld Baofeng UV-5R which my ham buddy recommended.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/271283545245 Radio (Red, so you won't lose it so
easy)

Black, so it's not so gaudy in discrete positions.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/281073791899 Speaker/Mic (Matches radio)

What for? Earphones work much better and don't broadcast it to the
neighborhood.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/261186498353 USB Programming Cable

Got it! I found that only one of two available free programs works
with it. CHIRP did not, but VIP did. Get the program specified for
your particular serial number & chipset.


VIP didn't even see the radio, but CHIRP worked for me. Go figure!

Weird. Did you download the one for your serial number?


It didn't ask for a serial number or firmware rev. Apparently, the
OEM changes the firmware rev level faster than they change underwear.

I downloaded the OEM software he
http://wouxun.us/Software/Baofeng/UV...up%20Files.zip

--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 00:54:20 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 11:12:28 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 11:12:13 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in
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om...
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 00:52:20 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in
message
news:ske7i99akdraa7oa03m424i36ps6uv7689@4ax .com...

I'm looking to the post-SHTF scenarios....

In that extreme case I think we would revert to armed roving bands
and
you might be better off joining one than being their prey. What
outdoorsman survival skills can you offer them?

Cook. I'll stay in the camp with the women. domg

Once you've had enough of their griping about the Call of Nature and
making you scrub the burnt pots with your handy chin hair you may
prefer to stay in the dump with the rats.

Hah! I have hardly any hair on my chinny chin chin, sir. Truth be
told, I'd try my damnedest to stay away from roving pillage gangs, and
would kindly remove those who came close, as a public service.


Loads of fun. Are you intentionally avoiding the What-Ifs? When
the
terrorists finally start strafing us from inside our own country,
large areas will surely go down for long periods of time.

Sure, I'm ready, got my 20mm Oerlikon for when sharks cross-breed with
flying fish and dive out of the sky like kamikazes. No damn buffalo
gonna roam in my home!

You're foolish to think we're safe here and now. It's only a matter
of time.


Read about the Provos in Belfast or the OAS in France to see what
might really happen in your scenario. Beirut and Sarajevo won't happen
without strong armed forces on both sides. I was frequently on the
road in a lone US military vehicle during the Baader-Meinhof, Munich
Olympics period in Germany. They let us carry M-16s and .45s. That's a
large part of why I preferred the inconspicuous VW.

Wow, I'll bet they even let you load those weapons with live ammo way
back then, too. I wish that were still true (and I sure wouldn't want
to be a guard at an embassy somewhere.) deep sigh


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Army_Faction

http://www.baader-meinhof.com/tag/heidelberg/
Only luck kept me away from the Heidelberg blast.

Thank your lucky stars. Man, who designed that website, with the
near-invisible light gray text? Prolly some Beemer engineer.

BMWs sported bumper stickers proclaiming that they were not Baader
Meinhof Wagons. Instead of being terrorized the country treated them
like Bonnie and Clyde.

In Germany I took my VW when sent on a repair mission in the middle
of
the night. It had a winter sleeping bag and a case of C-rats on the
floor so I could live in it when necessary, sometimes more
comfortably
than the accommodations the field site offered, or pull into the
woods
for the night if I was falling asleep on the long drives home. I
added
an outlet in the dash to plug in a 6VDC electric razor so I didn't
need hot water to pass inspection in the morning.

Cool. Are you keeping a case of rats in the vehicle now?

I'm no longer on call 24/7 to fix something 200 miles away in an
unfamiliar foreign country. I carry a cell phone and business cards of
all the local towing companies.

That's what I call Being Prepared! (How's the Egyptian weather?)


You can survive for about 3 days without water, weather dependent,
and
over a week without food. It's more critical to stay warm and dry.
http://adventure.howstuffworks.com/s...-and-water.htm
"The fat goes next, which explains why people with more of it can
survive longer."

I believe the updated data is that you can live 3 minutes without
air,
3 hours without TV, 3 days without water, and 3 weeks without food.
I
wouldn't want to try any of the above but the second one. g
IIRC,
I'm 8 years conscious (without TV) now.

Oh, I _finally_ finished wiring the solar array and am using one of
the emergency lamps, a 9w LED spots-in-a-bubble, as a computer
reading
light. The sunlight at 4:22pm today was on the array but at an80
degree angle, so the panels were putting out just 4.62v. I'm
curious
to see how long they put out during the day. If too short, I may
build a lazy susan tracker for it and add batteries.

Did I mention that the current software release for this meter
http://www.amazon.com/TekPower-TP400...037891-6841520
allows multiple installations of the program, so you can assemble a
datalogger with up to four voltage / current/ temperature inputs?
Since they are optically isolated you can measure voltage and current
without accidentally shorting power leads together. The log files are
separate but easily combined and graphed in a spreadsheet.

Cool.

--
Creativity can solve almost any problem. The creative act,
the defeat of habit by originality, overcomes everything.
-- George Lois

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 00:54:20 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 00:52:20 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in
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I'm looking to the post-SHTF scenarios....

In that extreme case I think we would revert to armed roving bands
and
you might be better off joining one than being their prey. What
outdoorsman survival skills can you offer them?

Cook. I'll stay in the camp with the women. domg

Once you've had enough of their griping about the Call of Nature and
making you scrub the burnt pots with your handy chin hair you may
prefer to stay in the dump with the rats.

Hah! I have hardly any hair on my chinny chin chin, sir. Truth be
told, I'd try my damnedest to stay away from roving pillage gangs,
and
would kindly remove those who came close, as a public service.

Loads of fun. Are you intentionally avoiding the What-Ifs? When
the
terrorists finally start strafing us from inside our own country,
large areas will surely go down for long periods of time.

Sure, I'm ready, got my 20mm Oerlikon for when sharks cross-breed
with
flying fish and dive out of the sky like kamikazes. No damn buffalo
gonna roam in my home!

You're foolish to think we're safe here and now. It's only a matter
of time.

I know and have discussed preparedness with the area SWAT commander. I
may take the civilian self-defense class he teaches. Which side are
you on?

Read about the Provos in Belfast or the OAS in France to see what
might really happen in your scenario. Beirut and Sarajevo won't
happen
without strong armed forces on both sides. I was frequently on the
road in a lone US military vehicle during the Baader-Meinhof, Munich
Olympics period in Germany. They let us carry M-16s and .45s. That's
a
large part of why I preferred the inconspicuous VW.

Wow, I'll bet they even let you load those weapons with live ammo
way
back then, too. I wish that were still true (and I sure wouldn't
want
to be a guard at an embassy somewhere.) deep sigh

One of my assigned tasks was to stand outside the kaserne gate with a
camera during terrorist alerts and try to photograph their license
plate. Could I possibly have been a more obvious target?

Driving in city traffic with a loaded machine gun made me extremely
aware of how much trouble I could get into, and prompted me to
practice Situational Awareness without becoming tense, instead of
daydreaming.

http://www.itstactical.com/intellico...ognize-change/
"Over time, this becomes almost a background activity, requiring
little conscious thought."

I'm no longer on call 24/7 to fix something 200 miles away in an
unfamiliar foreign country. I carry a cell phone and business cards
of
all the local towing companies.

That's what I call Being Prepared! (How's the Egyptian weather?)

Occasionally crooks from Mass stray over the border and discover that
the pickings aren't as easy in NH, we are alert and ready for them.

jsw

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:37:00 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


One of my assigned tasks was to stand outside the kaserne gate with a
camera during terrorist alerts and try to photograph their license
plate. Could I possibly have been a more obvious target?

Driving in city traffic with a loaded machine gun made me extremely
aware of how much trouble I could get into, and prompted me to
practice Situational Awareness without becoming tense, instead of
daydreaming.

http://www.itstactical.com/intellico...ognize-change/
"Over time, this becomes almost a background activity, requiring
little conscious thought."

Condition Yellow is where every thinking individual needs to live.

http://www.teddytactical.com/Sharpen...0Awareness.htm


--

"
I was once told by a “gun safety” advocate back in the Nineties
that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?

I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, “Give me the short answer.”

I thought for a moment and said, “If you try to take our firearms we will kill you.”"

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On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 01:27:09 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 16:03:49 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 12:27:13 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 22:35:36 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

I also ran into someone selling stolen CATV equipment from the
company I worked for. It had service stickers with my handwriting on
each piece.

Tell us!!


It was the Cincinnati Hamfest. The so called 'security' wasn't
interested in the fact that he had over $3,000 worth of our cable
converters. He was more interested in the Hudepol Beer Tank Truck for
the free beer. I had serviced every piece of the equipment, and I used
3/4" Avery color coding dots to make notes on the bottom of the case. He
didn't realize there was tiny writing on them. At least I got the
license plate number to turn over to a real police officer.

And then what happened?


He had already sold all of the CATV equipment, but he was caught with
other stolen goods. That was the last I heard about it, since it was
about the time I left the Cable TV business.

You arent much of a story teller. Sigh.


The truth is rarely entertaining.

Sure it is..mostly.

Gunner

--

"
I was once told by a “gun safety” advocate back in the Nineties
that he favored total civilian firearms confiscation.
Only the military and police should have weapons he averred and what did I think about that?

I began to give him a reasoned answer and he
cut me off with an abrupt, “Give me the short answer.”

I thought for a moment and said, “If you try to take our firearms we will kill you.”"

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On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:37:00 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 00:54:20 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 11:12:28 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in
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om...
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wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 00:52:20 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in
message
news:ske7i99akdraa7oa03m424i36ps6uv7689@4 ax.com...

I'm looking to the post-SHTF scenarios....

In that extreme case I think we would revert to armed roving bands
and
you might be better off joining one than being their prey. What
outdoorsman survival skills can you offer them?

Cook. I'll stay in the camp with the women. domg

Once you've had enough of their griping about the Call of Nature and
making you scrub the burnt pots with your handy chin hair you may
prefer to stay in the dump with the rats.

Hah! I have hardly any hair on my chinny chin chin, sir. Truth be
told, I'd try my damnedest to stay away from roving pillage gangs,
and
would kindly remove those who came close, as a public service.

Loads of fun. Are you intentionally avoiding the What-Ifs? When
the
terrorists finally start strafing us from inside our own country,
large areas will surely go down for long periods of time.

Sure, I'm ready, got my 20mm Oerlikon for when sharks cross-breed
with
flying fish and dive out of the sky like kamikazes. No damn buffalo
gonna roam in my home!

You're foolish to think we're safe here and now. It's only a matter
of time.

I know and have discussed preparedness with the area SWAT commander. I
may take the civilian self-defense class he teaches. Which side are
you on?

I'm on the side where I live through whatever event that happens,
without doing any raping, pillaging and burning. (Y'see, I'm one of
the good guys.)

I'm -not- on the side where the local/state/fed weasels say "You're
hoarding food, so we'll take it." after I've scrimped and saved up
enough to keep myself going through a year of hardships. Their way
ends up with everyone dying except them. They're well-fed.


Read about the Provos in Belfast or the OAS in France to see what
might really happen in your scenario. Beirut and Sarajevo won't
happen
without strong armed forces on both sides. I was frequently on the
road in a lone US military vehicle during the Baader-Meinhof, Munich
Olympics period in Germany. They let us carry M-16s and .45s. That's
a
large part of why I preferred the inconspicuous VW.

Wow, I'll bet they even let you load those weapons with live ammo
way
back then, too. I wish that were still true (and I sure wouldn't
want
to be a guard at an embassy somewhere.) deep sigh

One of my assigned tasks was to stand outside the kaserne gate with a
camera during terrorist alerts and try to photograph their license
plate. Could I possibly have been a more obvious target?

Ouch! That hurts just to read about it.


Driving in city traffic with a loaded machine gun made me extremely
aware of how much trouble I could get into, and prompted me to
practice Situational Awareness without becoming tense, instead of
daydreaming.

http://www.itstactical.com/intellico...ognize-change/
"Over time, this becomes almost a background activity, requiring
little conscious thought."

Excellent! I've been doing things along that line ever since Gunner
and I had the first gun conversation here, maybe a decade ago. It
firmed up what I had been doing all along, and made it more clear as
to why I had felt I needed to do so.



I'm no longer on call 24/7 to fix something 200 miles away in an
unfamiliar foreign country. I carry a cell phone and business cards
of
all the local towing companies.

That's what I call Being Prepared! (How's the Egyptian weather?)

Occasionally crooks from Mass stray over the border and discover that
the pickings aren't as easy in NH, we are alert and ready for them.

Oh, that's right. You live in Gnu Hampster. You boys are much more
ready there than most states are. Kudos.

--
Creativity can solve almost any problem. The creative act,
the defeat of habit by originality, overcomes everything.
-- George Lois

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:37:00 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

... Which side are you on?

I'm on the side where I live through whatever event that happens,
without doing any raping, pillaging and burning. (Y'see, I'm one of
the good guys.)

I'm -not- on the side where the local/state/fed weasels say "You're
hoarding food, so we'll take it." after I've scrimped and saved up
enough to keep myself going through a year of hardships. Their way
ends up with everyone dying except them. They're well-fed.

I figure anything I prepare for won't happen, just to spite me.

So I dream up token plans for everything.

One of my assigned tasks was to stand outside the kaserne gate with
a
camera during terrorist alerts and try to photograph their license
plate. Could I possibly have been a more obvious target?

Ouch! That hurts just to read about it.

Maybe when they saw me they realized we were ready for them, and kept
going?

jsw

On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 19:11:34 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 09:37:00 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

... Which side are you on?

I'm on the side where I live through whatever event that happens,
without doing any raping, pillaging and burning. (Y'see, I'm one of
the good guys.)

I'm -not- on the side where the local/state/fed weasels say "You're
hoarding food, so we'll take it." after I've scrimped and saved up
enough to keep myself going through a year of hardships. Their way
ends up with everyone dying except them. They're well-fed.

I figure anything I prepare for won't happen, just to spite me.

You have figured out Mr. Murphy's key behavior. Buy insurance to
insure that you never need it. Plan for bad times to prevent 'em.
But, just in case he changes his mind at a future date, you're
covered.


So I dream up token plans for everything.

Vunderbar!


One of my assigned tasks was to stand outside the kaserne gate with
a
camera during terrorist alerts and try to photograph their license
plate. Could I possibly have been a more obvious target?

Ouch! That hurts just to read about it.

Maybe when they saw me they realized we were ready for them, and kept
going?

Right. It could happen. Tons of crimes are deflected by those who
just seem to be aware of their surroundings. Perps pass them by and
wait for the totally clueless. They're easier targets.

--
Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes.
Art is knowing which ones to keep.
-- Scott Adams, 'The Dilbert Principle'

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 19:11:34 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

Maybe when they saw me they realized we were ready for them, and
kept
going?

Right. It could happen. Tons of crimes are deflected by those who
just seem to be aware of their surroundings. Perps pass them by and
wait for the totally clueless. They're easier targets.

When I was stationed in New Jersey I spent many weekends wandering
around New York, including the Theatre District which was very seedy
before Disney leased the New Amsterdam and prompted Giuliani to clean
up Times Square. I dressed down until the hookers stopped calling to
me, and then could roam anywhere (outside Harlem) without being
bothered, with my camera in a brown paper bag. The few times I had to
pass through in uniform I attracted unwanted attention like fruit
attracts flies, in places around the Port Authority where I had
previously been invisible.
jsw

On Tue, 18 Mar 2014 07:46:26 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 19:11:34 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

Maybe when they saw me they realized we were ready for them, and
kept
going?

Right. It could happen. Tons of crimes are deflected by those who
just seem to be aware of their surroundings. Perps pass them by and
wait for the totally clueless. They're easier targets.

When I was stationed in New Jersey I spent many weekends wandering
around New York, including the Theatre District which was very seedy
before Disney leased the New Amsterdam and prompted Giuliani to clean
up Times Square. I dressed down until the hookers stopped calling to
me, and then could roam anywhere (outside Harlem) without being
bothered, with my camera in a brown paper bag.

There ya go! Blend in and you're no threat and no potential dupe.


The few times I had to
pass through in uniform I attracted unwanted attention like fruit
attracts flies, in places around the Port Authority where I had
previously been invisible.

Yeah, a uniform screams to some people of prey "I'll bet that soldier
just got paid and is on the town." and to others "So he wants to
fight, eh? I'll bet I'm tougher than him."

--
Creativity is allowing yourself to make mistakes.
Art is knowing which ones to keep.
-- Scott Adams, 'The Dilbert Principle'

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 00:03:48 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message
.3.70...
"Jim Wilkins" fired this volley in
news:lg073q$oqr$1
@dont-email.me:

Solar panels won't charge the laptop directly, they put out either
more or less voltage and current than the charger wants as the sun
moves and clouds dim it. You need a 12V battery that's safe to pack
and carry.

Jim, not for nothin', but have you ever heard of a buck-boost
regulator?

Just askin'...

Lloyd

I posted a reference to a Drok regulator recently.

If Auto-Air laptop power supplies were cheaper I might test the input
limits of one, but I haven't and can't state how they will function
with other than a stable 12VDC source. Powering one switcher from
another doesn't always work. Some laptop supplies reportedly won't run
off a UPS.
jsw

I've never seen one. Switching supplies are pretty agnostic when it
comes to power quality. They make DC out of whatever comes in, chap ot
at high frequency, transform it, and rectify and regulate it back to
the desired DC output.

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 15:57:55 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 11:12:13 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


Ice storms destroy large areas of our grid but the power is back on
again in a week.

They are seldom Destroyed. Broken perhaps..but seldom destroyed.

What would you call it when they have to replace broken poles and
wires and the drops on houses?

Destroyed - but not TOTALLY destroyed.

fired this volley in
news
I've never seen one. Switching supplies are pretty agnostic when it
comes to power quality. They make DC out of whatever comes in, chap ot
at high frequency, transform it, and rectify and regulate it back to
the desired DC output.


I agree. A switcher is the MOST likely power supply to take any-ol'
stuff coming in and turn it into something useful.

And there are "buck-boost" type switchers that will take high voltage and
knock it down, or low voltage and multiply it to a useful level.

I think he might be arguing just to argue.

Lloyd

On Fri, 21 Mar 2014 18:45:09 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 15:57:55 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
. ..
On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 11:12:13 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


Ice storms destroy large areas of our grid but the power is back on
again in a week.

They are seldom Destroyed. Broken perhaps..but seldom destroyed.

What would you call it when they have to replace broken poles and
wires and the drops on houses?

Destroyed - but not TOTALLY destroyed.

I'd call it Damned Inconvenient.

--
The most decisive actions of our life - I mean those that are most
likely to decide the whole course of our future - are, more often
than not, unconsidered.
-- Andre Gide

On 03/21/2014 08:36 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:

What would you call it when they have to replace broken poles and
wires and the drops on houses?

Destroyed - but not TOTALLY destroyed.

I'd call it Damned Inconvenient.


I'd call it "Stuff that happened where I used to live
before I moved to LA."



technomaNge
--
LA stands for Lower Alabama

wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Mar 2014 00:03:48 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in
message
8.3.70...
"Jim Wilkins" fired this volley in
news:lg073q$oqr$1
@dont-email.me:

Solar panels won't charge the laptop directly, they put out
either
more or less voltage and current than the charger wants as the
sun
moves and clouds dim it. You need a 12V battery that's safe to
pack
and carry.

Jim, not for nothin', but have you ever heard of a buck-boost
regulator?

Just askin'...

Lloyd

I posted a reference to a Drok regulator recently.

If Auto-Air laptop power supplies were cheaper I might test the
input
limits of one, but I haven't and can't state how they will function
with other than a stable 12VDC source. Powering one switcher from
another doesn't always work. Some laptop supplies reportedly won't
run
off a UPS.
jsw

I've never seen one. Switching supplies are pretty agnostic when it
comes to power quality. They make DC out of whatever comes in, chap
ot
at high frequency, transform it, and rectify and regulate it back to
the desired DC output.

If only they were that simple!
http://www.edn.com/design/power-mana...y--Part-three-
http://www.calex.com/pdf/3power_impedance.pdf
http://www.smpstech.com/filter00.htm
http://www.smpstech.com/oven0000.htm
"Switching-mode power supplies are one of the toughest circuits most
engineers will ever have to stabilize."

http://cds.linear.com/docs/en/applic...ote/an136f.pdf
"A common problem of switching power supplies
is "unstable" switching waveforms."

"Jim Wilkins" fired this volley in news:lgis3j$mjj
:

"Switching-mode power supplies are one of the toughest circuits most
engineers will ever have to stabilize."

Fffft! That has to do with load variation stability, not the quality of
incoming power. Most of the ones on the market today are good from 70VAC
to 240+ without any adjustments or switch selections, and they care not
it its full-wave, half-wave, or chopped up intermittent square wave, so
long as it averages within that range.

C'mon, Jim! I've been installing them, fixing them, AND designing them
from scratch since the late 1980s. They are NOT that sensitive to the
incoming power. They can be bitches to keep stable over wide ranges of,
and rapidly changing, load though; sometimes they even go into a 'chirp'
mode, which is always bad.

Lloyd

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message
. 3.70...
"Jim Wilkins" fired this volley in
news:lgis3j$mjj
:

"Switching-mode power supplies are one of the toughest circuits
most
engineers will ever have to stabilize."

Fffft! That has to do with load variation stability, not the
quality of
incoming power. Most of the ones on the market today are good from
70VAC
to 240+ without any adjustments or switch selections, and they care
not
it its full-wave, half-wave, or chopped up intermittent square wave,
so
long as it averages within that range.

C'mon, Jim! I've been installing them, fixing them, AND designing
them
from scratch since the late 1980s. They are NOT that sensitive to
the
incoming power. They can be bitches to keep stable over wide ranges
of,
and rapidly changing, load though; sometimes they even go into a
'chirp'
mode, which is always bad.

Lloyd

I wrote:
If Auto-Air laptop power supplies were cheaper I might test the input
limits of one, but I haven't and can't state how they will function
with other than a stable 12VDC source. Powering one switcher from
another doesn't always work. Some laptop supplies reportedly won't
run
off a UPS.

The second switcher is the rapidly changing load, with a low-ESR input
capacitance that can upset the stability of the first switcher's
output.
jsw