On Monday, September 30, 2013 5:15:20 AM UTC-7, Gunner Asch wrote:
SHUTDOWN 2013

What government closure means for you

Minor headache for some, major hassle for others

snip

I've just had my first negative repercussion of the shutdown.

The battery in my watch died today, the band also needed to be replaced, plus the bezel was scratched, so I bought a new watch. I went to my favorite site to set the time...

http://time.gov/widget.html

I received the following message:

"NIST Closed, NIST and Affiliated Web Sites Not Available"

"Due to a lapse in government funding - blah, blah, blah."

I'm so INCONVENIENCED!!!!! LOL

Heh, no wonder congress has only a 10% approval rating. I think it's about time to implement some Term Limits on those clowns.

--
BottleBob
http://home.earthlink.net/~bottlbob

Actually, it's time to think about just canning the whole system and
starting over again further out west.

Mao said all political power springs from the barrel of a gun.
Maybe so.
But maybe this is the perfect chance to do it in a peaceful way.

I'm nominating Oklahoma City as the new center of American government.

Keep the representative republic approach.

Keep the same documentation (maybe Declaration of Independence - part
deaux?)

Question is - how to transfer the wealth from the old federalists to the
new?

On 10/1/2013 8:21 PM, BottleBob wrote:

I've just had my first negative repercussion of the shutdown.

The battery in my watch died today, the band also needed to be replaced, plus the bezel was scratched, so I bought a new watch. I went to my favorite site to set the time...

http://time.gov/widget.html

I received the following message:

"NIST Closed, NIST and Affiliated Web Sites Not Available"

"Due to a lapse in government funding - blah, blah, blah."

I'm so INCONVENIENCED!!!!! LOL

Heh, no wonder congress has only a 10% approval rating. I think it's about time to implement some Term Limits on those clowns.


Well, must be time to build a disaster kit?
http://www.ready.gov/

Got your bottled water, duct tape, plastic sheeting?

..
Christopher A. Young
Learn about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

On 10/1/2013 20:21, BottleBob wrote:
On Monday, September 30, 2013 5:15:20 AM UTC-7, Gunner Asch wrote:
SHUTDOWN 2013

What government closure means for you

Minor headache for some, major hassle for others

snip

I've just had my first negative repercussion of the shutdown.

The battery in my watch died today, the band also needed to be replaced, plus the bezel was scratched, so I bought a new watch. I went to my favorite site to set the time...

http://time.gov/widget.html

I received the following message:

"NIST Closed, NIST and Affiliated Web Sites Not Available"

"Due to a lapse in government funding - blah, blah, blah."

I'm so INCONVENIENCED!!!!! LOL

Heh, no wonder congress has only a 10% approval rating. I think it's about time to implement some Term Limits on those clowns.

You have got to be kidding. It's a no maintenance web site, fees paid in
advance. I agree on the term limits. Keeps power bases from getting too
big. I think all in political elected office should have an EARNED
degree in economics, NOT honorary, no substitute. I don't care if you
are a CEO of some big company, or wealthy. No degree, no run for election.

--
Steve Walker
(remove brain when replying)

Steve Walker wrote:

You have got to be kidding. It's a no maintenance web site, fees paid in
advance. I agree on the term limits. Keeps power bases from getting too
big. I think all in political elected office should have an EARNED
degree in economics, NOT honorary, no substitute. I don't care if you
are a CEO of some big company, or wealthy. No degree, no run for election.


If you've ever walked past a law school, you shouldn't be allowed to
run for office.


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

"Michael A. Terrell" on Sun, 13 Oct 2013
00:04:10 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

Steve Walker wrote:

You have got to be kidding. It's a no maintenance web site, fees paid in
advance. I agree on the term limits. Keeps power bases from getting too
big. I think all in political elected office should have an EARNED
degree in economics, NOT honorary, no substitute. I don't care if you
are a CEO of some big company, or wealthy. No degree, no run for election.

If you've ever walked past a law school, you shouldn't be allowed to
run for office.

Pttthhthththth. I've walked past the law school several time

Never went in, just walked past.

Maybe I should, just to see what they do in their.
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

On 10/12/2013 9:04 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Steve Walker wrote:

You have got to be kidding. It's a no maintenance web site, fees paid in
advance. I agree on the term limits. Keeps power bases from getting too
big. I think all in political elected office should have an EARNED
degree in economics, NOT honorary, no substitute. I don't care if you
are a CEO of some big company, or wealthy. No degree, no run for election.


If you've ever walked past a law school, you shouldn't be allowed to
run for office.



be advised that anyone who thinks that a web site with a database
connected to it and is associated with a government requires no
maintenance is a person without a clue - a US government web site gets
tens of thousands of directed attacks per day - from a security
perspective alone it requires significant attention. To leave it open
would be to place the system at risk and virtually guarantee that it
would be compromised.

--
For a $5 dollar donation today you get credit for $10 with HIM

a friend wrote:

be advised that anyone who thinks that a web site with a database
connected to it and is associated with a government requires no
maintenance is a person without a clue - a US government web site gets
tens of thousands of directed attacks per day - from a security
perspective alone it requires significant attention. To leave it open
would be to place the system at risk and virtually guarantee that it
would be compromised.


Be advised that you're still a low grade moron and a troll. The time
servers have no database. Even ones that do can temporarily store the
data on read only memory, and do frequent reloads so any attempt at
hacking is minimized. Another thing is to block all IP addresses from
outside the US, along with any from the US that make too many attempts.
Go find a place full of sub 70 IQ losers like yourself, if one exists.

--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

On 2013-10-13, a friend wrote:
be advised that anyone who thinks that a web site with a database
connected to it and is associated with a government requires no
maintenance is a person without a clue - a US government web site gets
tens of thousands of directed attacks per day - from a security
perspective alone it requires significant attention. To leave it open
would be to place the system at risk and virtually guarantee that it
would be compromised.


This is truly a dumb statement. I leave my website server for
algebra.com without any attention for weeks. It runs just fine and
does not become compromised.

Computer security and programming is what makes me a living.

i

On Sunday, October 13, 2013 12:23:03 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus22100 wrote:
On 2013-10-13, a friend wrote:

be advised that anyone who thinks that a web site with a database

connected to it and is associated with a government requires no

maintenance is a person without a clue - a US government web site gets

tens of thousands of directed attacks per day - from a security

perspective alone it requires significant attention. To leave it open

would be to place the system at risk and virtually guarantee that it

would be compromised.





This is truly a dumb statement. I leave my website server for

algebra.com without any attention for weeks. It runs just fine and

does not become compromised.



Computer security and programming is what makes me a living.



i

The website design for algebra.com sucks dead donkey dick. It's one of the worst websites I've ever seen. You have zero talent for graphical design.

Dear Algebra,

Please stop asking us to find your X.
She's not coming back, and we don't know Y.

On Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:16:27 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:




The website design for algebra.com sucks dead donkey dick. It's one of the worst websites I've ever seen. You have zero talent for graphical design.


Please post the URl of your web site so I can see what a good website looks like. Does your website have pictures of your shop and equipment?

Dan

On Sunday, October 13, 2013 5:44:47 PM UTC-7, wrote:

Please post the URl of your web site so I can see what a good website looks like.

You wouldn't know what a good web site looked like if it was shoved up your ass sideways.

On Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:07:28 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:

Please post the URl of your web site so I can see what a good website looks like.



You wouldn't know what a good web site looked like if it was shoved up your ass sideways.

So you are saying that you do not have a website, but feel no one will realise that. Sorry but most of the people here are smarter than that.

Dan

On Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:25:38 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:07:28 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:



Please post the URl of your web site so I can see what a good website looks like.







You wouldn't know what a good web site looked like if it was shoved up your ass sideways.



So you are saying that you do not have a website, but feel no one will realise that. Sorry but most of the people here are smarter than that.



Dan

You have no clue what I'm saying or what a good website looks like because your taste is in your ass.

On 2013-10-14, wrote:
On Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:16:27 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:

The website design for algebra.com sucks dead donkey dick. It's one
of the worst websites I've ever seen. You have zero talent for
graphical design.

Please post the URl of your web site so I can see what a good
website looks like. Does your website have pictures of your shop
and equipment?

I agree that I have zero graphical talent. And yet, I have about
160,000 visitors per day on week days.

https://www.quantcast.com/algebra.com

This website is not about appealing visual design, it is about being
a useful and helpful place for people seeking homework help. Kind of
like craigslist. Also very ugly, but useful.

But yes, I suck at all artistic skills involving non-rectangular
objects. And I am fine with this.

i

On Sunday, October 13, 2013 7:59:56 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus22100 wrote:
On 2013-10-14, wrote:

On Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:16:27 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:



The website design for algebra.com sucks dead donkey dick. It's one

of the worst websites I've ever seen. You have zero talent for

graphical design.



Please post the URl of your web site so I can see what a good

website looks like. Does your website have pictures of your shop

and equipment?



I agree that I have zero graphical talent. And yet, I have about

160,000 visitors per day on week days.



https://www.quantcast.com/algebra.com



This website is not about appealing visual design, it is about being

a useful and helpful place for people seeking homework help. Kind of

like craigslist. Also very ugly, but useful.



But yes, I suck at all artistic skills involving non-rectangular

objects. And I am fine with this.



i

Of course iggy is "fine with this". iggy specializes in butt ugly... yet another reason his machined parts will never be what they should be.

Perhaps someone should buy the idiot a clue. Most customers want good looking parts, welding tables, etc.

On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 17:44:47 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:16:27 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:




The website design for algebra.com sucks dead donkey dick. It's one of the worst websites I've ever seen. You have zero talent for graphical design.


Please post the URl of your web site so I can see what a good website looks like. Does your website have pictures of your shop and equipment?

Dan

Jon uses a computer at the library. They dont let him do websites.


"The socialist movement takes great pains to circulate frequently new labels for its ideally constructed state.
Each worn-out label is replaced by another which raises hopes of an ultimate solution of the insoluble basic
problem of Socialism, until it becomes obvious that nothing has been changed but the name.
The most recent slogan is "State Capitalism."[Fascism] It is not commonly realized that this covers nothing more
than what used to be called Planned Economy and State Socialism, and that State Capitalism, Planned Economy,
and State Socialism diverge only in non-essentials from the "classic" ideal of egalitarian Socialism. - Ludwig von Mises (1922)

On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 18:25:38 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:07:28 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:

Please post the URl of your web site so I can see what a good website looks like.



You wouldn't know what a good web site looked like if it was shoved up your ass sideways.

So you are saying that you do not have a website, but feel no one will realise that. Sorry but most of the people here are smarter than that.

Dan

Everyone here is smarter than Jon.

I wonder if he will be punched out at Westec again this year?


"The socialist movement takes great pains to circulate frequently new labels for its ideally constructed state.
Each worn-out label is replaced by another which raises hopes of an ultimate solution of the insoluble basic
problem of Socialism, until it becomes obvious that nothing has been changed but the name.
The most recent slogan is "State Capitalism."[Fascism] It is not commonly realized that this covers nothing more
than what used to be called Planned Economy and State Socialism, and that State Capitalism, Planned Economy,
and State Socialism diverge only in non-essentials from the "classic" ideal of egalitarian Socialism. - Ludwig von Mises (1922)

On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 21:59:56 -0500, Ignoramus22100
wrote:

On 2013-10-14, wrote:
On Sunday, October 13, 2013 6:16:27 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:

The website design for algebra.com sucks dead donkey dick. It's one
of the worst websites I've ever seen. You have zero talent for
graphical design.

Please post the URl of your web site so I can see what a good
website looks like. Does your website have pictures of your shop
and equipment?

I agree that I have zero graphical talent. And yet, I have about
160,000 visitors per day on week days.

https://www.quantcast.com/algebra.com

This website is not about appealing visual design, it is about being
a useful and helpful place for people seeking homework help. Kind of
like craigslist. Also very ugly, but useful.

But yes, I suck at all artistic skills involving non-rectangular
objects. And I am fine with this.

i

It appears to work for..and not bother, 160,000 people every day.

Jon ant even lie artistically on Usenet.


"The socialist movement takes great pains to circulate frequently new labels for its ideally constructed state.
Each worn-out label is replaced by another which raises hopes of an ultimate solution of the insoluble basic
problem of Socialism, until it becomes obvious that nothing has been changed but the name.
The most recent slogan is "State Capitalism."[Fascism] It is not commonly realized that this covers nothing more
than what used to be called Planned Economy and State Socialism, and that State Capitalism, Planned Economy,
and State Socialism diverge only in non-essentials from the "classic" ideal of egalitarian Socialism. - Ludwig von Mises (1922)

On Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:41:35 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:


You have no clue what I'm saying or what a good website looks like because your taste is in your ass.


Once again Jon says he has no website or home shop.

Dan

On 2013-10-14, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 18:25:38 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:07:28 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:

Please post the URl of your web site so I can see what a good website looks like.



You wouldn't know what a good web site looked like if it was shoved up your ass sideways.

So you are saying that you do not have a website, but feel no one will realise that. Sorry but most of the people here are smarter than that.

Dan

Everyone here is smarter than Jon.

That's not really saying much.

On Monday, October 14, 2013 4:51:12 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:41:35 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:





You have no clue what I'm saying or what a good website looks like because your taste is in your ass.





Once again Jon says he has no website or home shop.



Dan

Once again you show yourself to be a clueless moron.

On Monday, October 14, 2013 2:46:06 AM UTC-7, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 18:25:38 -0700 (PDT), "

wrote:



On Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:07:28 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:



Please post the URl of your web site so I can see what a good website looks like.







You wouldn't know what a good web site looked like if it was shoved up your ass sideways.



So you are saying that you do not have a website, but feel no one will realise that. Sorry but most of the people here are smarter than that.



Dan



Everyone here is smarter than Jon.



I wonder if he will be punched out at Westec again this year?


Many people are smarter than I am but you're not one of those people, Wieber.

I was never punched at Westec. It's the kind of worthless gossip that lying, **** bags like you love to engage in.

In case you haven't noticed, Wieber I'm still here after you promised I'd be killed with one of the many phony death threats that you have made... none of which you can back up.

You're a spineless, lying, little pussy, Wieber. About the only think your capable of killing is your own dog which manged to accomplish with neglect and irresponsibility.

On Monday, October 14, 2013 6:06:14 AM UTC-7, Ignoramus30725 wrote:
On 2013-10-14, Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 18:25:38 -0700 (PDT), "

wrote:



On Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:07:28 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:



Please post the URl of your web site so I can see what a good website looks like.







You wouldn't know what a good web site looked like if it was shoved up your ass sideways.



So you are saying that you do not have a website, but feel no one will realise that. Sorry but most of the people here are smarter than that.



Dan



Everyone here is smarter than Jon.



That's not really saying much.

iggy, never really has much to say other than bragging about what he has purchased for nothing.

When iggy tires to say something he most often shows he's completely incapable of thinking for himself, isn't mechanical and has no metalworking or welding skills.

On Monday, October 14, 2013 2:48:17 AM UTC-7, Gunner Asch wrote:

Jon ant even lie artistically on Usenet.


I kick your lying, deadbeat, worthless ass to the curb on almost a daily basis on Usenet, Wieber.

I've have kicked you to the curb so hard you have no idea which way is up.

On Monday, October 14, 2013 2:45:21 AM UTC-7, Gunner Asch wrote:

Jon uses a computer at the library. They dont let him do websites.


More lies you can't back up, Wieber?

What library do I post from?

We all know where you post from, Wieber. You post from a **** hole that's liened up the wazoo. The **** hole you live in is on a small lot littered with worthless garbage. Annexed on to the **** hole you live in is a dirt floor machine shop.

You're so poor, Wieber that you can't even pay your rent and have roommates. You blame liberal Democrats for your sorry lot in life rather than your own failings.

If all this isn't bad enough, Wieber you have constantly lied about the size of the small lot you live on . Where you live is most likely a hot bed of meth users. Have they started to film Breaking Stupid at your house yet?

On Monday, October 14, 2013 12:54:10 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:


Once again you show yourself to be a clueless moron.

Smart enough to know that you have no website or home shop.

Dan

On Monday, October 14, 2013 1:12:25 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:

iggy, never really has much to say other than bragging about what he has purchased for nothing.



When iggy tires to say something he most often shows he's completely incapable of thinking for himself, isn't mechanical and has no metalworking or welding skills


So post a link to pictures of some metalworking that you have done lately. From what you have posted , I would say you are the one whe is not mechanical and has no metalworking or welding skills. Have you ever posted about anything that you have done.

Dan

On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 08:06:14 -0500, Ignoramus30725
wrote:

On 2013-10-14, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 18:25:38 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:07:28 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:

Please post the URl of your web site so I can see what a good website looks like.



You wouldn't know what a good web site looked like if it was shoved up your ass sideways.

So you are saying that you do not have a website, but feel no one will realise that. Sorry but most of the people here are smarter than that.

Dan

Everyone here is smarter than Jon.

That's not really saying much.

That includes roaches under our sinks.


"The socialist movement takes great pains to circulate frequently new labels for its ideally constructed state.
Each worn-out label is replaced by another which raises hopes of an ultimate solution of the insoluble basic
problem of Socialism, until it becomes obvious that nothing has been changed but the name.
The most recent slogan is "State Capitalism."[Fascism] It is not commonly realized that this covers nothing more
than what used to be called Planned Economy and State Socialism, and that State Capitalism, Planned Economy,
and State Socialism diverge only in non-essentials from the "classic" ideal of egalitarian Socialism. - Ludwig von Mises (1922)

On Monday, October 14, 2013 11:19:56 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Monday, October 14, 2013 12:54:10 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:





Once again you show yourself to be a clueless moron.



Smart enough to know that you have no website or home shop.



Dan

Dumb enough to not realize why I don't need a home shop even after being told many times why.

Dumb enough not to realize what my LinkedIn connections and group should tell you.

On Monday, October 14, 2013 11:25:56 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Monday, October 14, 2013 1:12:25 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:



iggy, never really has much to say other than bragging about what he has purchased for nothing.







When iggy tires to say something he most often shows he's completely incapable of thinking for himself, isn't mechanical and has no metalworking or welding skills





So post a link to pictures of some metalworking that you have done lately. From what you have posted , I would say you are the one whe is not mechanical and has no metalworking or welding skills. Have you ever posted about anything that you have done.



Dan

I have posted links showing some of the shops I've worked in, tools, techniques I use, etc.

That you wish to continue to lie about this isn't something I control. Your posts frequently prove you to be a fool. This is yet another example of you showing what a fool you truly are.

On Monday, October 14, 2013 11:38:56 AM UTC-7, Gunner Asch wrote:

That includes roaches under our sinks.


No doubt the **** hole you live in is roach filled.

Gunner Asch wrote:

Ignoramus wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:

Everyone here is smarter than Jon.

That's not really saying much.

That includes roaches under our sinks.


Even if they were all dead roaches.

--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

On 2013-10-14, wrote:
On Monday, October 14, 2013 12:54:10 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:


Once again you show yourself to be a clueless moron.

Smart enough to know that you have no website or home shop.

Dan


And a website is so easy to have...

i

Gunner Asch wrote:

Everyone here is smarter than Jon.

I wonder if he will be punched out at Westec again this year?


In a 20 ton press?


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

On Monday, October 14, 2013 4:29:02 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus30725 wrote:
On 2013-10-14, wrote:

On Monday, October 14, 2013 12:54:10 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:





Once again you show yourself to be a clueless moron.



Smart enough to know that you have no website or home shop.



Dan





And a website is so easy to have...



i


Good website design is so easy to have if you care and you have a clue. As per usual, iggy doesn't care and has no clues.

Thinking iggy took lessons in website design from fellow idiot, Larry Jackass.

On 2013-10-14, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 08:06:14 -0500, Ignoramus30725
wrote:

On 2013-10-14, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 18:25:38 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote:

On Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:07:28 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:

Please post the URl of your web site so I can see what a good website looks like.



You wouldn't know what a good web site looked like if it was shoved up your ass sideways.

So you are saying that you do not have a website, but feel no one will realise that. Sorry but most of the people here are smarter than that.

Dan

Everyone here is smarter than Jon.

That's not really saying much.

That includes roaches under our sinks.


I often tell my kids, please stop whining and acting stupid, or else
you may grow up like jon banquer.

i

On Monday, October 14, 2013 5:08:27 PM UTC-7, Ignoramus30725 wrote:
On 2013-10-14, Gunner Asch wrote:

On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 08:06:14 -0500, Ignoramus30725

wrote:



On 2013-10-14, Gunner Asch wrote:

On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 18:25:38 -0700 (PDT), "

wrote:



On Sunday, October 13, 2013 9:07:28 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:



Please post the URl of your web site so I can see what a good website looks like.







You wouldn't know what a good web site looked like if it was shoved up your ass sideways.



So you are saying that you do not have a website, but feel no one will realise that. Sorry but most of the people here are smarter than that.



Dan



Everyone here is smarter than Jon.



That's not really saying much.



That includes roaches under our sinks.





I often tell my kids, please stop whining and acting stupid, or else

you may grow up like jon banquer.



i

If they're whining and acting stupid you can bet they take after their father.

On Mon, 14 Oct 2013 19:37:47 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

Everyone here is smarter than Jon.

I wonder if he will be punched out at Westec again this year?


In a 20 ton press?

I wonder if Jon will enlighten the group about that rather infamous
event at Westec? Im sure he has healed up by now.

VBG

How about it Jonboi? Want to tell the boys how you got the ****
knocked out of you in public at Westec?

http://home.earthlink.net/~cadcamcnc...-Part%20II.pdf
http://newsgroups.derkeiler.com/Arch.../msg00111.html


Oh there are lots of other articles out there..from multiple writers
who know him. Lots

Which is why he resides in every killfile Ive ever setup. I wont deal
with him..the need for a shower afterwards is overcoming and Ive
better things to do.

Gunner

--
""Almost all liberal behavioral tropes track the impotent rage of small
children. Thus, for example, there is also the popular tactic of
repeating some stupid, meaningless phrase a billion times" Arms for
hostages, arms for hostages, arms for hostages, it's just about sex, just
about sex, just about sex, dumb,dumb, money in politics,money in
politics, Enron, Enron, Enron. Nothing repeated with mind-numbing
frequency in all major news outlets will not be believed by some members
of the populace. It is the permanence of evil; you can't stop it." (Ann
Coulter)