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I have a power steering cylinder that one end mounts on a 1.125" ball
stud. Stud needs to be about 2" long and somewhere around 1/2"
diameter. I've busted up old ball joints and tie rod ends. Nothing the
right size. RV sway bar balls are 1.250". Suggestions or source?


Who made the p/s cylinder? Don't they sell them? As usual (for the
Web) the original question didn't contain enough info for people who
might want to help to know what you need.

"I have a yellow metal blurfl. What hardware should I use?"


A left handed framistat.


But only...only if it has converse threads! Stripping those suckers
is the kiss of death!


"The socialist movement takes great pains to circulate frequently new labels for its ideally constructed state.
Each worn-out label is replaced by another which raises hopes of an ultimate solution of the insoluble basic
problem of Socialism, until it becomes obvious that nothing has been changed but the name.
The most recent slogan is "State Capitalism."[Fascism] It is not commonly realized that this covers nothing more
than what used to be called Planned Economy and State Socialism, and that State Capitalism, Planned Economy,
and State Socialism diverge only in non-essentials from the "classic" ideal of egalitarian Socialism. - Ludwig von Mises (1922)
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I have a power steering cylinder that one end mounts on a 1.125" ball
stud. Stud needs to be about 2" long and somewhere around 1/2"
diameter. I've busted up old ball joints and tie rod ends. Nothing the
right size. RV sway bar balls are 1.250". Suggestions or source?

Andy
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On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 12:26:32 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:40:38 -0500, wrote:

I have a power steering cylinder that one end mounts on a 1.125" ball
stud. Stud needs to be about 2" long and somewhere around 1/2"
diameter. I've busted up old ball joints and tie rod ends. Nothing the
right size. RV sway bar balls are 1.250". Suggestions or source?

Who made the p/s cylinder? Don't they sell them? As usual (for the
Web) the original question didn't contain enough info for people who
might want to help to know what you need.

"I have a yellow metal blurfl. What hardware should I use?"

A left handed framistat.


But only...only if it has converse threads! Stripping those suckers
is the kiss of death!


That's silly brainwashing by branding. An Adidas thread is just as good.


ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!


"The socialist movement takes great pains to circulate frequently new labels for its ideally constructed state.
Each worn-out label is replaced by another which raises hopes of an ultimate solution of the insoluble basic
problem of Socialism, until it becomes obvious that nothing has been changed but the name.
The most recent slogan is "State Capitalism."[Fascism] It is not commonly realized that this covers nothing more
than what used to be called Planned Economy and State Socialism, and that State Capitalism, Planned Economy,
and State Socialism diverge only in non-essentials from the "classic" ideal of egalitarian Socialism. - Ludwig von Mises (1922)


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On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 08:12:49 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 11:05:45 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 18:26:56 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:40:38 -0500, wrote:

I have a power steering cylinder that one end mounts on a 1.125" ball
stud. Stud needs to be about 2" long and somewhere around 1/2"
diameter. I've busted up old ball joints and tie rod ends. Nothing the
right size. RV sway bar balls are 1.250". Suggestions or source?

Who made the p/s cylinder? Don't they sell them? As usual (for the
Web) the original question didn't contain enough info for people who
might want to help to know what you need.

"I have a yellow metal blurfl. What hardware should I use?"


But what if its blue!!???


My point exactly. If the OP states what he has, in detail, what he
wants to do, what he's tried, what he thinks is the problem, etc.
then a whole lot of questions don't have to be asked by anyone who is
trying to help him. Details are gold.


(P.S: Got a shipment date for my rasps/files, dude?)


Got some checks coming in this week. The box gets shipped when I get
the first one.


"The socialist movement takes great pains to circulate frequently new labels for its ideally constructed state.
Each worn-out label is replaced by another which raises hopes of an ultimate solution of the insoluble basic
problem of Socialism, until it becomes obvious that nothing has been changed but the name.
The most recent slogan is "State Capitalism."[Fascism] It is not commonly realized that this covers nothing more
than what used to be called Planned Economy and State Socialism, and that State Capitalism, Planned Economy,
and State Socialism diverge only in non-essentials from the "classic" ideal of egalitarian Socialism. - Ludwig von Mises (1922)
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On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 17:16:33 -0500, F. George McDuffee
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On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:40:38 -0500,
wrote:

I have a power steering cylinder that one end mounts on a 1.125" ball
stud. Stud needs to be about 2" long and somewhere around 1/2"
diameter. I've busted up old ball joints and tie rod ends. Nothing the
right size. RV sway bar balls are 1.250". Suggestions or source?

Andy

================

Take the sample in to your local auto parts stores. Even if
they don't and can't get, they may be able to identify the
vehicle this came off of. Then contact the dealer and/or
salvage yards with the info. Sounds heavy for a car, was
this off heavy equipment?


I bought these from Surplus Center. They have no more info other than
the size of the ball as stated in their description when I bought
these last 2 some years ago. They have no markings, labels, stampings
of any kind. The socket that fits on the ball is the valve for the
cylinder. It is built into the end of the cylinder. O'Reilly's and a
local industrial supply couldn't come up with one in their catalogs.

Even a ball I could drill and put a stud into would work. I haven't
been able to find any specs for CV joint balls. I've looked at a
hundred spherical stud rod ends. They give every dimension except the
ball diameter.

Thanks for your suggestion.

=====================
As this is machining related, should I put OT [on topic] on
the subject line?


If you have a manual lathe this sounds like a job for a
spherical turning tool. 1_1/4 diameter should not be that
expensive. Wonderful excuse for more tools... Piece of cake
to program on a cnc lathe.

make, borrow or buy a ball turning tool

http://littlemachineshop.com/product...y=196325689 9
(several larger sizes listed)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Metal-lathe-...-/360352335172

http://www.homemadetools.net/tag/ball-turning

http://www.metalwebnews.com/howto/tu...rning_tool.pdf

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...wanted-237714/

http://www.hemingwaykits.com/acatalo...ning_Tool.html

http://bbs.homeshopmachinist.net/thr...-sphere-cutter

http://www.micro-machine-shop.com/ball_turner.htm

and a bunch more




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On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 19:34:59 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 17:16:33 -0500, F. George McDuffee
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:40:38 -0500,
wrote:

I have a power steering cylinder that one end mounts on a 1.125" ball
stud. Stud needs to be about 2" long and somewhere around 1/2"
diameter. I've busted up old ball joints and tie rod ends. Nothing the
right size. RV sway bar balls are 1.250". Suggestions or source?

Andy

================

Take the sample in to your local auto parts stores. Even if
they don't and can't get, they may be able to identify the
vehicle this came off of. Then contact the dealer and/or
salvage yards with the info. Sounds heavy for a car, was
this off heavy equipment?


I bought these from Surplus Center. They have no more info other than
the size of the ball as stated in their description when I bought
these last 2 some years ago. They have no markings, labels, stampings
of any kind. The socket that fits on the ball is the valve for the
cylinder. It is built into the end of the cylinder. O'Reilly's and a
local industrial supply couldn't come up with one in their catalogs.

Even a ball I could drill and put a stud into would work. I haven't
been able to find any specs for CV joint balls. I've looked at a
hundred spherical stud rod ends. They give every dimension except the
ball diameter.

Thanks for your suggestion.


I've seen something similar on Kenworth 40 ton trucks. It was a sort
of power assist steering - a cylinder connected between the drag link
and the frame. turning the steering wheel moved the drag link which
started to turn the road wheels and opened a valve in the end of the
hydraulic cylinder and assisted in turning the wheels - reversing the
movement of the road wheel changed the valving to move the cylinder
the other direction. This was a lot of years ago but someone in a
heavy truck shop might help you.
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On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:32:01 +0700, John B.
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On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 19:34:59 -0500, wrote:

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 17:16:33 -0500, F. George McDuffee
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:40:38 -0500,
wrote:

I have a power steering cylinder that one end mounts on a 1.125" ball
stud. Stud needs to be about 2" long and somewhere around 1/2"
diameter. I've busted up old ball joints and tie rod ends. Nothing the
right size. RV sway bar balls are 1.250". Suggestions or source?

Andy
================

Take the sample in to your local auto parts stores. Even if
they don't and can't get, they may be able to identify the
vehicle this came off of. Then contact the dealer and/or
salvage yards with the info. Sounds heavy for a car, was
this off heavy equipment?


I bought these from Surplus Center. They have no more info other than
the size of the ball as stated in their description when I bought
these last 2 some years ago. They have no markings, labels, stampings
of any kind. The socket that fits on the ball is the valve for the
cylinder. It is built into the end of the cylinder. O'Reilly's and a
local industrial supply couldn't come up with one in their catalogs.

Even a ball I could drill and put a stud into would work. I haven't
been able to find any specs for CV joint balls. I've looked at a
hundred spherical stud rod ends. They give every dimension except the
ball diameter.

Thanks for your suggestion.


I've seen something similar on Kenworth 40 ton trucks. It was a sort
of power assist steering - a cylinder connected between the drag link
and the frame. turning the steering wheel moved the drag link which
started to turn the road wheels and opened a valve in the end of the
hydraulic cylinder and assisted in turning the wheels - reversing the
movement of the road wheel changed the valving to move the cylinder
the other direction. This was a lot of years ago but someone in a
heavy truck shop might help you.


Exactly John. They are power assist cylinders. I've tried forklift and
tractor dealers. Didn't think of trucks. Just assumed they had power
gear boxes.
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On Mon, 30 Sep 2013 18:32:01 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Sun, 29 Sep 2013 19:34:59 -0500,
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 17:16:33 -0500, F. George McDuffee
wrote:

On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:40:38 -0500,
wrote:

I have a power steering cylinder that one end mounts on a 1.125" ball
stud. Stud needs to be about 2" long and somewhere around 1/2"
diameter. I've busted up old ball joints and tie rod ends. Nothing the
right size. RV sway bar balls are 1.250". Suggestions or source?

Andy
================

Take the sample in to your local auto parts stores. Even if
they don't and can't get, they may be able to identify the
vehicle this came off of. Then contact the dealer and/or
salvage yards with the info. Sounds heavy for a car, was
this off heavy equipment?

I bought these from Surplus Center. They have no more info other than
the size of the ball as stated in their description when I bought
these last 2 some years ago. They have no markings, labels, stampings
of any kind. The socket that fits on the ball is the valve for the
cylinder. It is built into the end of the cylinder. O'Reilly's and a
local industrial supply couldn't come up with one in their catalogs.

Even a ball I could drill and put a stud into would work. I haven't
been able to find any specs for CV joint balls. I've looked at a
hundred spherical stud rod ends. They give every dimension except the
ball diameter.

Thanks for your suggestion.


I've seen something similar on Kenworth 40 ton trucks. It was a sort
of power assist steering - a cylinder connected between the drag link
and the frame. turning the steering wheel moved the drag link which
started to turn the road wheels and opened a valve in the end of the
hydraulic cylinder and assisted in turning the wheels - reversing the
movement of the road wheel changed the valving to move the cylinder
the other direction. This was a lot of years ago but someone in a
heavy truck shop might help you.


Exactly John. They are power assist cylinders. I've tried forklift and
tractor dealers. Didn't think of trucks. Just assumed they had power
gear boxes.


They may well have today. Try to find a gray headed mechanic :-)
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On Sat, 05 Oct 2013 09:23:12 -0400, Steve Walker
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On 9/28/2013 17:02, Bob La Londe wrote:
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 12:26:32 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:40:38 -0500, wrote:

I have a power steering cylinder that one end mounts on a 1.125" ball
stud. Stud needs to be about 2" long and somewhere around 1/2"
diameter. I've busted up old ball joints and tie rod ends. Nothing the
right size. RV sway bar balls are 1.250". Suggestions or source?

Who made the p/s cylinder? Don't they sell them? As usual (for the
Web) the original question didn't contain enough info for people who
might want to help to know what you need.

"I have a yellow metal blurfl. What hardware should I use?"

A left handed framistat.


But only...only if it has converse threads! Stripping those suckers
is the kiss of death!


That's silly brainwashing by branding. An Adidas thread is just as good.




No, no, no. You really need a turbo encabulator.



Oooh ya!! Thats the ticket!!!


"The socialist movement takes great pains to circulate frequently new labels for its ideally constructed state.
Each worn-out label is replaced by another which raises hopes of an ultimate solution of the insoluble basic
problem of Socialism, until it becomes obvious that nothing has been changed but the name.
The most recent slogan is "State Capitalism."[Fascism] It is not commonly realized that this covers nothing more
than what used to be called Planned Economy and State Socialism, and that State Capitalism, Planned Economy,
and State Socialism diverge only in non-essentials from the "classic" ideal of egalitarian Socialism. - Ludwig von Mises (1922)
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Steve Walker on Sat, 05 Oct 2013
09:23:12 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On 9/28/2013 17:02, Bob La Londe wrote:
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 12:26:32 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:40:38 -0500, wrote:

I have a power steering cylinder that one end mounts on a 1.125" ball
stud. Stud needs to be about 2" long and somewhere around 1/2"
diameter. I've busted up old ball joints and tie rod ends. Nothing the
right size. RV sway bar balls are 1.250". Suggestions or source?

Who made the p/s cylinder? Don't they sell them? As usual (for the
Web) the original question didn't contain enough info for people who
might want to help to know what you need.

"I have a yellow metal blurfl. What hardware should I use?"

A left handed framistat.


But only...only if it has converse threads! Stripping those suckers
is the kiss of death!

That's silly brainwashing by branding. An Adidas thread is just as good.



No, no, no. You really need a turbo encabulator.


The original GE model (HBK-8359) or the Rockwell Retro Turbo
Encabulator?
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Why....the Rockwell of course!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k9x2gUHbQs


This one isnt bad either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fjcJp_Nwvk


"The socialist movement takes great pains to circulate frequently new labels for its ideally constructed state.
Each worn-out label is replaced by another which raises hopes of an ultimate solution of the insoluble basic
problem of Socialism, until it becomes obvious that nothing has been changed but the name.
The most recent slogan is "State Capitalism."[Fascism] It is not commonly realized that this covers nothing more
than what used to be called Planned Economy and State Socialism, and that State Capitalism, Planned Economy,
and State Socialism diverge only in non-essentials from the "classic" ideal of egalitarian Socialism. - Ludwig von Mises (1922)
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On Sat, 05 Oct 2013 16:07:11 -0700, pyotr filipivich
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Steve Walker on Sat, 05 Oct 2013
09:23:12 -0400 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On 9/28/2013 17:02, Bob La Londe wrote:
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Sat, 28 Sep 2013 12:26:32 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 27 Sep 2013 16:40:38 -0500, wrote:

I have a power steering cylinder that one end mounts on a 1.125" ball
stud. Stud needs to be about 2" long and somewhere around 1/2"
diameter. I've busted up old ball joints and tie rod ends. Nothing the
right size. RV sway bar balls are 1.250". Suggestions or source?

Who made the p/s cylinder? Don't they sell them? As usual (for the
Web) the original question didn't contain enough info for people who
might want to help to know what you need.

"I have a yellow metal blurfl. What hardware should I use?"

A left handed framistat.


But only...only if it has converse threads! Stripping those suckers
is the kiss of death!

That's silly brainwashing by branding. An Adidas thread is just as good.



No, no, no. You really need a turbo encabulator.


The original GE model (HBK-8359) or the Rockwell Retro Turbo
Encabulator?
--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."


Why....the Rockwell of course!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k9x2gUHbQs


This one isnt bad either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fjcJp_Nwvk


International reactions, a collection:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=notRo0XkhbU?
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Gunner Asch wrote:

Why....the Rockwell of course!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k9x2gUHbQs

This one isnt bad either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fjcJp_Nwvk



Here is the GE datasheet in PDF:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&v ed=0CDkQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.floobydust.com%2 Fturbo-encabulator%2Fge_turbo-encabulator.pdf&ei=KRxaUr7cJoX6kQfk2YG4DA&usg=AFQj CNH-OvNktOTttS2Kxw03wrvMkAc9Dg&sig2=sCzfx5VpH54Lh_KrKA m6zw


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