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On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 06:27:54 -0700, Larry Jaques
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On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:07:29 -0500, Ignoramus15426
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On 2013-09-13, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:16:37 -0500, Ignoramus23724
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I do not have a global solution and, meanwhile, I will just try to
stay on the right side of the divide.


That's good. I was thinking you'd be on the left.


As for how such situations can resolve themselves, I see three
possibilities:

1) That I am wrong and that displaced people will continue finding
employment.

2) A violent resolution of this, resulting in mass damage and
realignment

3) A non-violent resolution, with the majority of people living on
handouts, studying liberal arts or doing make-work stuff.

Number 3 is what I personally anticipate, but I recognize the
uncertainty that is inherent in these predictions. In any case,
everyone needs to make predictions in order to plan our actions.

#3 is the bulk of the Democrat's Platform, isn't it? That is what our
fine nation is turning into.


DO you see any other alternatives, other than 1, 2 or 3?


No, those are definitely the 3 most likely trends. Now if we could
only get people to drop the Reps and Dems and find a new party whose
platform is solidly sane, fiscally frugal, and _pro_-USA...

Until Gunner's Great Cull happens, and changes things drastically, I
forsee #3 happening/growing, too. I revamped my BOB and am adding to
my stores continually now, hoping to shelter-in-place when the SHTF.


Only the readers can make sure the Great Cull occurs and finally
disrupts 70 yrs of economic and political malfeasance and return
America to its Constitutional roots.

Got rope?


"The socialist movement takes great pains to circulate frequently new labels for its ideally constructed state.
Each worn-out label is replaced by another which raises hopes of an ultimate solution of the insoluble basic
problem of Socialism, until it becomes obvious that nothing has been changed but the name.
The most recent slogan is "State Capitalism."[Fascism] It is not commonly realized that this covers nothing more
than what used to be called Planned Economy and State Socialism, and that State Capitalism, Planned Economy,
and State Socialism diverge only in non-essentials from the "classic" ideal of egalitarian Socialism. - Ludwig von Mises (1922)
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On Fri, 13 Sep 2013 12:19:30 -0500, Ignoramus32089
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On 2013-09-13, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:07:29 -0500, Ignoramus15426
wrote:

On 2013-09-13, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 11 Sep 2013 23:16:37 -0500, Ignoramus23724
wrote:


I do not have a global solution and, meanwhile, I will just try to
stay on the right side of the divide.


That's good. I was thinking you'd be on the left.


As for how such situations can resolve themselves, I see three
possibilities:

1) That I am wrong and that displaced people will continue finding
employment.

2) A violent resolution of this, resulting in mass damage and
realignment

3) A non-violent resolution, with the majority of people living on
handouts, studying liberal arts or doing make-work stuff.

Number 3 is what I personally anticipate, but I recognize the
uncertainty that is inherent in these predictions. In any case,
everyone needs to make predictions in order to plan our actions.

#3 is the bulk of the Democrat's Platform, isn't it? That is what our
fine nation is turning into.


DO you see any other alternatives, other than 1, 2 or 3?


No, those are definitely the 3 most likely trends. Now if we could
only get people to drop the Reps and Dems and find a new party whose
platform is solidly sane, fiscally frugal, and _pro_-USA...


That would be awesome. I especially want fiscally frugal.

Until Gunner's Great Cull happens, and changes things drastically, I
forsee #3 happening/growing, too. I revamped my BOB and am adding to
my stores continually now, hoping to shelter-in-place when the SHTF.


I dumped most of my food stores due to mice. I only have a bit of
canned stuff.

i


You stored it...in cardboard?

And you come from the USSR?????

Blink blink.....blink.....


"The socialist movement takes great pains to circulate frequently new labels for its ideally constructed state.
Each worn-out label is replaced by another which raises hopes of an ultimate solution of the insoluble basic
problem of Socialism, until it becomes obvious that nothing has been changed but the name.
The most recent slogan is "State Capitalism."[Fascism] It is not commonly realized that this covers nothing more
than what used to be called Planned Economy and State Socialism, and that State Capitalism, Planned Economy,
and State Socialism diverge only in non-essentials from the "classic" ideal of egalitarian Socialism. - Ludwig von Mises (1922)
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