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On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:01:42 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:

I think at one point Wieber was using

PE in an ad for his business... Yellow Pages or something similar.

This is a very sticky subject because engineering is a term used in

countries like the UK for machining. The problem would be using the

P.E. term. If you really care I'm sure Google has a record of Wieber

use of the P.E. term. I don't care. This is not the problem really the

problem with Mark Wieber and it's grasping at straws... which

KiddingNoOne often does.


We went through this in some detail some time ago, and if you want to google it, go right ahead. It is most certainly NOT a non-issue, any more so than it would be if I were to claim to be a physician (which I am not).

In the state of California (as in New Jersey), "Engineer" is a licensed profession, and to call oneself an engineer, one has to be licensed by the state. Wieber is not licensed, and therefore has no standing to claim that he is. Further, in the state of New York, one cannot hold an executive position in an engineering company without first being a licensed engineer. I am not sure whether that holds true for California or not.

Go ahead, google for the conversation right here in rcm. I do recall that I quoted chapter & verse from the California laws.

As for the rest of whoyakidding's ghost's aptly named "Cliff" notes, well, they're just too damned entertaining to ignore.

Of course now we have to wait with bated breath for GummyBear to claim that what he really meant by "Engineer" is that he was a train driver for the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe.

Arf arf, indeed.
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On Apr 11, 7:33*pm, rangerssuck wrote:
On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:01:42 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:
I think at one point Wieber was using


PE in an ad for his business... Yellow Pages or something similar.


This is a very sticky subject because engineering is a term used in


countries like the UK for machining. The problem would be using the


P.E. term. If you really care I'm sure Google has a record of Wieber


use of the P.E. term. I don't care. This is not the problem really the


problem with Mark Wieber and it's grasping at straws... which


KiddingNoOne often does.


We went through this in some detail some time ago, and if you want to google it, go right ahead. It is most certainly NOT a non-issue, any more so than it would be if I were to claim to be a physician (which I am not).

In the state of California (as in New Jersey), "Engineer" is a licensed profession, and to call oneself an engineer, one has to be licensed by the state. Wieber is not licensed, and therefore has no standing to claim that he is. Further, in the state of New York, one cannot hold an executive position in an engineering company without first being a licensed engineer. I am not sure whether that holds true for California or not.

Go ahead, google for the conversation right here in rcm. I do recall that I quoted chapter & verse from the California laws.

As for the rest of whoyakidding's ghost's aptly named "Cliff" notes, well, they're just too damned entertaining to ignore.

Of course now we have to wait with bated breath for GummyBear to claim that what he really meant by "Engineer" is that he was a train driver for the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe.

Arf arf, indeed.


Not going to Google it because it's not worth my time and I don't
care. You care that much, you Google it and post it.

KiddingNoOne's trademark line "Arf, arf" is old and worn out.


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Of course now we have to wait with bated breath for GummyBear to claim
that what he really meant by "Engineer" is that he was a train driver for
the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe.


Actually, it was Anaheim, Azusa and Cucamonga...


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On 4/11/2013 7:33 PM, rangerssuck wrote:
On Wednesday, April 10, 2013 6:01:42 PM UTC-4, jon_banquer wrote:

I think at one point Wieber was using

PE in an ad for his business... Yellow Pages or something similar.

This is a very sticky subject because engineering is a term used in

countries like the UK for machining. The problem would be using the

P.E. term. If you really care I'm sure Google has a record of Wieber

use of the P.E. term. I don't care. This is not the problem really the

problem with Mark Wieber and it's grasping at straws... which

KiddingNoOne often does.


We went through this in some detail some time ago, and if you want to google it, go right ahead. It is most certainly NOT a non-issue, any more so than it would be if I were to claim to be a physician (which I am not).

In the state of California (as in New Jersey), "Engineer" is a licensed profession, and to call oneself an engineer, one has to be licensed by the state. Wieber is not licensed, and therefore has no standing to claim that he is. Further, in the state of New York, one cannot hold an executive position in an engineering company without first being a licensed engineer. I am not sure whether that holds true for California or not.


As much as anything else, gummer doesn't have a shred of the education
one would need to be an engineer. At best, he has taken a few
vocational classes in junior college. It might be possible to hold some
kind of engineering license without first obtaining a four year degree,
but gummer has no license and only rudimentary vocational classwork. He
is not an engineer.



Go ahead, google for the conversation right here in rcm. I do recall that I quoted chapter & verse from the California laws.

As for the rest of whoyakidding's ghost's aptly named "Cliff" notes, well, they're just too damned entertaining to ignore.

Of course now we have to wait with bated breath for GummyBear to claim that what he really meant by "Engineer" is that he was a train driver for the Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe.

Arf arf, indeed.


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