Dayton 4Z140 - Gloat
 

Grainger price (not logged in) shows as $242.50. Ebay shows them for $75 to
$180.

I got 4 of them along with 3 12 volt cart motors and a 24 volt gear motor
(RPM unknown, but I may have an immediate use for) the other day for $40
total. The guy said he just wanted to get rid of them and start with motors
built for the purpose for his application. (Building a CNC plasma table) I
can see one reason right off the bat he might not have wanted to use them.
They are single shaft. He would have had to mount his encoder somewhere
other than on the convenient back shaft like one might on a purpose built
servo motor.

My thought was just that I got $500 + worth of motors for $40. I also
considered using them myself if I convert the RF-30 to CNC. The problem is
of course chasing down or building a 90VDC power supply that doesn't cost so
much as to invalidate the savings on the motors.

I unwound the transformer on the Hurco and I am running it at 78 volts to
stay within spec on my servo controllers. I suspect these would run fin on
78-80 volts if I wanted to use one for a second spindle lift or 4th axis
table or even as a knee lift. I might have to add some more capacitance
though. Anyway. I do have a power supply to test them on.

Dayton 4Z140 - Gloat
 

On 2012-07-20, Bob La Londe wrote:
Grainger price (not logged in) shows as $242.50. Ebay shows them for $75 to
$180.

I got 4 of them along with 3 12 volt cart motors and a 24 volt gear motor
(RPM unknown, but I may have an immediate use for) the other day for $40
total. The guy said he just wanted to get rid of them and start with motors
built for the purpose for his application. (Building a CNC plasma table) I
can see one reason right off the bat he might not have wanted to use them.
They are single shaft. He would have had to mount his encoder somewhere
other than on the convenient back shaft like one might on a purpose built
servo motor.

The encoder can be dealt with in other ways, such as a linear
encoder on the table to feed back its position to the controller.

However, what I consider more of a limitation is that it does
not have a built-in tach generator for speed control.

Granted, if you are using something like the Gecko servo drive,
which does not use the tach feedback at all, and simply makes the motor
behave like a stepper, then you don't care -- but if you want precise
and smooth speed control, you want the tach feedback.

A way around that could be a small permanent magnet field motor
mounted on an idler pulley which could generate the speed information
for the servo amp.

Still -- the price (from snipped info from below) certainly
sounds attractive. If you can find the small permanent magnet motors to
use as tach feedback, you will be fine. (The encoder could be on a
similar setup if you don't want the precision of linear encoders.)

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Dayton 4Z140 - Gloat
 

On 2012-07-20, Bob La Londe wrote:
Well... I already found another power supply I can use when I am ready to
use those 90V motors. Still looking for the right 24V power supply though.

How much current do you need? I got a really nice one from
Mouser (or was it DigiKey) for up to about 1A. It was a DIN rail
mounting one -- quite small, and can run from either 120 VAC or 240 VAC
as you need.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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Dayton 4Z140 - Gloat
 

On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 17:13:33 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

Grainger price (not logged in) shows as $242.50. Ebay shows them for $75 to
$180.

I got 4 of them along with 3 12 volt cart motors and a 24 volt gear motor
(RPM unknown, but I may have an immediate use for) the other day for $40
total. The guy said he just wanted to get rid of them and start with motors
built for the purpose for his application. (Building a CNC plasma table) I
can see one reason right off the bat he might not have wanted to use them.
They are single shaft. He would have had to mount his encoder somewhere
other than on the convenient back shaft like one might on a purpose built
servo motor.

My thought was just that I got $500 + worth of motors for $40. I also
considered using them myself if I convert the RF-30 to CNC. The problem is
of course chasing down or building a 90VDC power supply that doesn't cost so
much as to invalidate the savings on the motors.

I unwound the transformer on the Hurco and I am running it at 78 volts to
stay within spec on my servo controllers. I suspect these would run fin on
78-80 volts if I wanted to use one for a second spindle lift or 4th axis
table or even as a knee lift. I might have to add some more capacitance
though. Anyway. I do have a power supply to test them on.

Can you drill and tap the motor shaft on the back side. presto! back
side shaft. i did this on my fourth axis servo

Karl