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OT Thomas Jefferson abused by liberals
One of these videos (one on the right as page loads on my PC) says "How
Jefferson's Phrase is Being..." http://vidego.multicastmedia.com/player.php?p=y2b99484 Interesting how Jefferson's words were twisted by liberals to make them mean something Jefferson never meant as proven by Jefferson's other writings. RogerN |
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OT Thomas Jefferson abused by liberals
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:09:26 -0500, "RogerN" wrote:
One of these videos (one on the right as page loads on my PC) says "How Jefferson's Phrase is Being..." http://vidego.multicastmedia.com/player.php?p=y2b99484 Interesting how Jefferson's words were twisted by liberals to make them mean something Jefferson never meant as proven by Jefferson's other writings. RogerN Here, Roger, read some of this before that pile of b.s.infects your mind further. Take particular note of the section, "Jefferson, Jesus, and the Bible." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_...n_and_religion -- Ed Huntress |
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OT Thomas Jefferson abused by liberals
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
... On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:09:26 -0500, "RogerN" wrote: One of these videos (one on the right as page loads on my PC) says "How Jefferson's Phrase is Being..." http://vidego.multicastmedia.com/player.php?p=y2b99484 Interesting how Jefferson's words were twisted by liberals to make them mean something Jefferson never meant as proven by Jefferson's other writings. RogerN Here, Roger, read some of this before that pile of b.s.infects your mind further. Take particular note of the section, "Jefferson, Jesus, and the Bible." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_...n_and_religion -- Ed Huntress Um, OK, I'm pretty sure I read that before, nothing new, is it supposed to have something to do with what was stated in the video? RogerN |
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OT Thomas Jefferson abused by liberals
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 19:17:37 -0500, "RogerN" wrote:
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 11:09:26 -0500, "RogerN" wrote: One of these videos (one on the right as page loads on my PC) says "How Jefferson's Phrase is Being..." http://vidego.multicastmedia.com/player.php?p=y2b99484 Interesting how Jefferson's words were twisted by liberals to make them mean something Jefferson never meant as proven by Jefferson's other writings. RogerN Here, Roger, read some of this before that pile of b.s.infects your mind further. Take particular note of the section, "Jefferson, Jesus, and the Bible." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_...n_and_religion -- Ed Huntress Um, OK, I'm pretty sure I read that before, nothing new, is it supposed to have something to do with what was stated in the video? RogerN I had hoped that it might encourage you to gain a deeper understanding of Jefferson's position. The Wiki item, as is often the case, is only a door to the original references. But that's a lengthy study. As you know, it's been a great interest of mine, because I find Jefferson to be one of the most fascinating and brilliant characters in modern political history. However, relating it to the video -- a lengthy and horrific piece of distortion, by the way, and you owe me one just for sitting through it g -- the point was that Jefferson would never have supported the teaching of any religious doctrine under the auspices of government, as in the public schools. Besides the "separation" letter, he spoke and wrote about the evils of "intermeddling" of government and religion (teaching religious doctrine in the public schools, for example) in Virginia. Perhaps more important is a point in the video itself. It began with an invalid assumption and then built its entire case on it. The speaker equated the teaching of Creationism with Jefferson's belief in a creator. Nothing could be further from the truth. Jefferson was, as the video says, a "rationalist." An 18th century rationalist was one who applied reason and science to all questions -- Jefferson advised us to question everything, including the existence of God -- and Jefferson himself got into hot water over many doctrinal issues. For example, he was an early modern geologist, and declared that the Flood was impossible. There's big trouble for you, but not as big as his positions that Jesus was not divine nor the son of God, that all miracles were false, that the trinity was hokum, and that Mary was not a virgin. g Creation, yes. Creationism, no, because it contradicts the findings of science. And Jefferson is what we would today call a "scientist" above almost all else. So the whole story in that video is bunk, because it's premised on a falsehood. -- Ed Huntress |
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