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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] May 1st 12 03:03 PM

1960 fork lift redux
 
It's ALIVE! And now I have a drain in the fuel tank.

Boy! I feel for the guys who must work on these things every day. There's
not enough room for an 8 year old Chinese girl to get her hands inside most
areas...

LLoyd

Stormin Mormon[_7_] May 2nd 12 03:03 PM

1960 fork lift redux
 
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message
. 3.70...
It's ALIVE! And now I have a drain in the fuel tank.

Boy! I feel for the guys who must work on these things every day. There's
not enough room for an 8 year old Chinese girl to get her hands inside most
areas...

LLoyd



Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] May 2nd 12 03:59 PM

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this will be an "ongoing project". Now that it starts, it's apparent
that it's a little "cold natured", and requires diddling the choke during
warmup to be stable.

Looking around reveals a fairly weak spark, but on all plugs it's, eh...,
OK... so I guess next is an ignition tuneup. Then, if I get the courage,
I'll remove the carb, and at least clean it up and check the jet (only
one, just like an old cast iron Briggs updraft carb).

Lloyd

Ignoramus21480 May 2nd 12 05:13 PM

1960 fork lift redux
 
I like forklifts too. I already bought six of them, sold one and
scrapped another at a profit. One more was a bad deal and will likely
be scrapped also. The sixth one goes to my place tomorrow.

What I learned is that there is a reason why nobody wants old
forklifts. The reason is parts availability.

i

On 2012-05-02, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
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this will be an "ongoing project". Now that it starts, it's apparent
that it's a little "cold natured", and requires diddling the choke during
warmup to be stable.

Looking around reveals a fairly weak spark, but on all plugs it's, eh...,
OK... so I guess next is an ignition tuneup. Then, if I get the courage,
I'll remove the carb, and at least clean it up and check the jet (only
one, just like an old cast iron Briggs updraft carb).

Lloyd


dpb May 2nd 12 06:13 PM

1960 fork lift redux
 
On 5/2/2012 11:13 AM, Ignoramus21480 wrote:
....

What I learned is that there is a reason why nobody wants old
forklifts. The reason is parts availability.

....

I think it's mostly the folks who really use them don't want to waste
the time/money on downtime.

There are plenty of boneyards around here even in a (relatively)
sparsely populated area; can't imagine there aren't a zillion in/around
Cook County that could get virtually any part of any forklift you could
imagine.

--

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] May 2nd 12 06:41 PM

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There are plenty of boneyards around here even in a (relatively)
sparsely populated area; can't imagine there aren't a zillion in/around
Cook County that could get virtually any part of any forklift you could
imagine.


I called the guy I got this from to ask a couple of questions, and asked
about parts.

He told me that "they aren't exactly 'on the shelf' but with three or
four phone calls, I can get any part for that lift you need."

I believe him, because this was well after the sale, and he wasn't trying
to impress me, since I was already happy with what I got for the money.

I also know (because I have the ID ticket) that Clark made a couple of
hundred-thousand of these lifts, identical in design except for a few
electrical details, and the vendors of the specific parts. So there are
lots of "bones" to pick over.

Besides, Ig. I make parts and I can fix most anything. So it's more a
labor of love and admiration for the old, tough machines than a struggle
to maintain. That 4-cyl "Connie" will probably never die at the loads it
works under.

LLoyd

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] May 2nd 12 10:56 PM

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I wonder how many of those parts are manufacturable by the home
machinist. Probably a pretty low number.


The engine, et. al., and tranny are probably not, nor easily replaceable,
but they are tough and built to last forever.

Most of the top-end parts like the carb kits and ignition parts are still
being made. The chassis/body/weight-bustle isn't going to fail. All the
hydraulics and mast components could be duplicated by any competent
metalworker. The hydraulic pump is a standard high-volume heavy-duty
truck power steering pump, still available.

Bearings, axles, etc, are standard items that were standard then, and are
still so now. 'Git 'em at NAPA.

Lloyd



Winston May 3rd 12 12:53 AM

1960 fork lift redux
 
Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
Larry fired this volley in
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I wonder how many of those parts are manufacturable by the home
machinist. Probably a pretty low number.


The engine, et. al., and tranny are probably not, nor easily replaceable,
but they are tough and built to last forever.

Most of the top-end parts like the carb kits and ignition parts are still
being made. The chassis/body/weight-bustle isn't going to fail. All the
hydraulics and mast components could be duplicated by any competent
metalworker. The hydraulic pump is a standard high-volume heavy-duty
truck power steering pump, still available.

Bearings, axles, etc, are standard items that were standard then, and are
still so now. 'Git 'em at NAPA.


Yup. You don't have to make all your replacement
parts. I fixed the shifter on a pal's forklift
with a short length of all-thread, a matching
coupler and pair of jam nuts and lock washers.
I explained that it was a temporary fix until he
could get the properly inspected and certified
factory linkage.

He just smirked at me and drove off.
I wonder what *that* meant? :)

--Winston

Denis G.[_2_] May 3rd 12 02:18 AM

1960 fork lift redux
 
On May 1, 9:03*am, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
It's ALIVE! *And now I have a drain in the fuel tank.

Boy! *I feel for the guys who must work on these things every day. *There's
not enough room for an 8 year old Chinese girl to get her hands inside most
areas...

LLoyd


This guy has an interesting website and has rebuilt an Allis Chalmers
ACP80 (8000 lb lift) forklift as well as a 1971 Clark forklift that
sounds like it somewhat similar to yours:
http://nicholasfluhart.com/category/...lark-forklift/

Ignoramus21480 May 3rd 12 02:30 AM

1960 fork lift redux
 
On 2012-05-02, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 02 May 2012 11:13:55 -0500, Ignoramus21480
wrote:

I like forklifts too. I already bought six of them, sold one and
scrapped another at a profit. One more was a bad deal and will likely
be scrapped also. The sixth one goes to my place tomorrow.

What I learned is that there is a reason why nobody wants old
forklifts. The reason is parts availability.


I wonder how many of those parts are manufacturable by the home
machinist. Probably a pretty low number.


I am sure that a lot of them can be made, but at what cost?

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] May 3rd 12 03:04 AM

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"Denis G." fired this volley in news:8cff2568-
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http://nicholasfluhart.com/category/...lark-forklift/

Yep, that's a CY20B... same model number as mine. They made them for a LOT
of years.

Lloyd

Ignoramus6562 May 24th 12 02:07 AM

1960 fork lift redux
 
On 2012-05-02, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

Besides, Ig. I make parts and I can fix most anything. So it's more a
labor of love and admiration for the old, tough machines than a struggle
to maintain. That 4-cyl "Connie" will probably never die at the loads it
works under.


How is it now?

I just bought a 5,500 lbs Clark C500-55 forklift today...

The mast on it leaks big time. The good news is that a seal kit is
available for this cylinder.

i

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] May 24th 12 03:25 AM

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Ignoramus6562 fired this volley in
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How is it now?


It runs fine every time I turn the key. I have now used it to 30% of
it's cost, based upon daily rentals. I suspect I will pay it off in
another three months, based upon that use level.

Mine has not a drip of any kind of leak anywhere, now. No gas, no engine
oil, no hydraulic oil.

It was a bit of a chore cleaning up the fuel system, but that was all it
needed to be a useful tool.

Lloyd

Ignoramus6562 May 24th 12 04:04 AM

1960 fork lift redux
 
On 2012-05-24, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:
Ignoramus6562 fired this volley in
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How is it now?


It runs fine every time I turn the key. I have now used it to 30% of
it's cost, based upon daily rentals. I suspect I will pay it off in
another three months, based upon that use level.

Mine has not a drip of any kind of leak anywhere, now. No gas, no engine
oil, no hydraulic oil.

It was a bit of a chore cleaning up the fuel system, but that was all it
needed to be a useful tool.


This is great Lloyd. I am sorry that I sounded like a sourpuss when we
discussed that forklift.

i

Lloyd E. Sponenburgh[_3_] May 24th 12 12:51 PM

1960 fork lift redux
 
Ignoramus6562 fired this volley in
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This is great Lloyd. I am sorry that I sounded like a sourpuss when we
discussed that forklift.



I don't remember your saying anything I took offense to G.

Lloyd


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