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[email protected] October 15th 11 08:02 PM

Jed Clampett-Mobile
 
Guy builds a steam powered whatever it is.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a15_1318636799

Very useful for.....well....nothing as far as I can tell, with the
exception that it could make some personal injury attorney alot of
money.
Dave

Tim Wescott October 15th 11 10:54 PM

Jed Clampett-Mobile
 
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:02:10 -0400, dav1936531 wrote:

Guy builds a steam powered whatever it is.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a15_1318636799

Very useful for.....well....nothing as far as I can tell, with the
exception that it could make some personal injury attorney alot of
money.


Of course, if you looked and thought while you were looking, you'd see
that it's an antique four-stroke gas engine (started by another antique
four-stroke gas engine). Probably all of 10 horsepower, but it's a
_steady_ 10 horsepower.

The only steam involved is cooling the engines.

--
www.wescottdesign.com

Phil Kangas[_4_] October 15th 11 11:21 PM

Jed Clampett-Mobile
 

"Tim Wescott" wrote in
message
...
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:02:10 -0400, dav1936531
wrote:

Guy builds a steam powered whatever it is.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a15_1318636799

Very useful for.....well....nothing as far as I
can tell, with the
exception that it could make some personal
injury attorney alot of
money.


Of course, if you looked and thought while you
were looking, you'd see
that it's an antique four-stroke gas engine
(started by another antique
four-stroke gas engine). Probably all of 10
horsepower, but it's a
_steady_ 10 horsepower.

The only steam involved is cooling the engines.

--
www.wescottdesign.com


And a fine piece of work it is !!! ;)}




Pilgrim October 15th 11 11:29 PM

Jed Clampett-Mobile
 
In article ,
Tim Wescott wrote:

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a15_1318636799


Reminds me of an engine I saw at an old equipment show. Two cylinder
diesel engine mounted on a dedicated lowboy trailer. It was about ten
feet tall with built in blow torches for each head. Had an auxiliary two
cylinder on the side. One was an engine the other a
compressor[compressed air is used to start large diesels]. Made the most
perfect smoke rings when it started.

Chuck P.

Sunworshipper[_2_] October 16th 11 03:53 AM

Jed Clampett-Mobile
 
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 16:54:16 -0500, Tim Wescott
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:02:10 -0400, dav1936531 wrote:

Guy builds a steam powered whatever it is.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a15_1318636799

Very useful for.....well....nothing as far as I can tell, with the
exception that it could make some personal injury attorney alot of
money.


Of course, if you looked and thought while you were looking, you'd see
that it's an antique four-stroke gas engine (started by another antique
four-stroke gas engine). Probably all of 10 horsepower, but it's a
_steady_ 10 horsepower.

The only steam involved is cooling the engines.


I believe it is a hit an miss. Only fires when the fly wheel slows
down, would be great around here with the frequent power outages.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihnpL...eature=related


SW

Tim[_31_] October 16th 11 05:26 AM

Jed Clampett-Mobile
 
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:53:49 -0500, Sunworshipper wrote:

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 16:54:16 -0500, Tim Wescott
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:02:10 -0400, dav1936531 wrote:

Guy builds a steam powered whatever it is.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a15_1318636799

Very useful for.....well....nothing as far as I can tell, with the
exception that it could make some personal injury attorney alot of
money.


Of course, if you looked and thought while you were looking, you'd see
that it's an antique four-stroke gas engine (started by another antique
four-stroke gas engine). Probably all of 10 horsepower, but it's a
_steady_ 10 horsepower.

The only steam involved is cooling the engines.


I believe it is a hit an miss. Only fires when the fly wheel slows
down, would be great around here with the frequent power outages.


They both are. They generally work by having the governor hold the
exhaust valve open.

They made crappy prime movers for electrical generation, because the
speed is regulated within a range, but is by no means completely steady.
They'd be quite good in these degenerate times when generators don't need
to be synchronous with the power demands placed upon them. Inverters,
like all electronics, are inventions of the devil.

--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com

Larry Jaques[_4_] October 16th 11 11:53 AM

Jed Clampett-Mobile
 
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:53:49 -0500, Sunworshipper SW@GWNTUNDRA
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 16:54:16 -0500, Tim Wescott
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:02:10 -0400, dav1936531 wrote:

Guy builds a steam powered whatever it is.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a15_1318636799

Very useful for.....well....nothing as far as I can tell, with the
exception that it could make some personal injury attorney alot of
money.


Of course, if you looked and thought while you were looking, you'd see
that it's an antique four-stroke gas engine (started by another antique
four-stroke gas engine). Probably all of 10 horsepower, but it's a
_steady_ 10 horsepower.

The only steam involved is cooling the engines.


I believe it is a hit an miss. Only fires when the fly wheel slows
down, would be great around here with the frequent power outages.


Yeah, one little hit-and-miss starts a much larger one. Wild!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihnpL...eature=related



--
....in order that a man may be happy, it is
necessary that he should not only be capable
of his work, but a good judge of his work.
-- John Ruskin

[email protected] October 16th 11 02:57 PM

Jed Clampett-Mobile
 
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:53:49 -0500, Sunworshipper SW@GWNTUNDRA
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 16:54:16 -0500, Tim Wescott
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:02:10 -0400, dav1936531 wrote:

Guy builds a steam powered whatever it is.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a15_1318636799

Very useful for.....well....nothing as far as I can tell, with the
exception that it could make some personal injury attorney alot of
money.


Of course, if you looked and thought while you were looking, you'd see
that it's an antique four-stroke gas engine (started by another antique
four-stroke gas engine). Probably all of 10 horsepower, but it's a
_steady_ 10 horsepower.

The only steam involved is cooling the engines.


I believe it is a hit an miss. Only fires when the fly wheel slows
down, would be great around here with the frequent power outages.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihnpL...eature=related


SW

And it was NOT started by the little 4 stroke engine. It was started
by "rocking" the huge flywheel on the big engine past top dead center
a few times to draw the fuel into the cyl and get it lit. That 10HP
engine likely has a top speed of 120 or 180 RPM. At 120RPM 10 HP is a
whopping 437 ft lbs of torque!!!!! The huge flywheel is required to
carry the load between firings - which under no load can be as few as
one every 10 seconds or so, and under full load 0ne every second.

Tim[_31_] October 16th 11 04:39 PM

Jed Clampett-Mobile
 
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 09:57:49 -0400, clare wrote:

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 21:53:49 -0500, Sunworshipper SW@GWNTUNDRA wrote:

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 16:54:16 -0500, Tim Wescott
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:02:10 -0400, dav1936531 wrote:

Guy builds a steam powered whatever it is.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a15_1318636799

Very useful for.....well....nothing as far as I can tell, with the
exception that it could make some personal injury attorney alot of
money.

Of course, if you looked and thought while you were looking, you'd see
that it's an antique four-stroke gas engine (started by another antique
four-stroke gas engine). Probably all of 10 horsepower, but it's a
_steady_ 10 horsepower.

The only steam involved is cooling the engines.


I believe it is a hit an miss. Only fires when the fly wheel slows
down, would be great around here with the frequent power outages.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihnpL...eature=related


SW

And it was NOT started by the little 4 stroke engine. It was started by
"rocking" the huge flywheel on the big engine past top dead center a few
times to draw the fuel into the cyl and get it lit. That 10HP engine
likely has a top speed of 120 or 180 RPM. At 120RPM 10 HP is a whopping
437 ft lbs of torque!!!!! The huge flywheel is required to carry the
load between firings - which under no load can be as few as one every 10
seconds or so, and under full load 0ne every second.


If the big engine started perfectly well by rocking it, why did he need
to use the little engine to get it up to speed before he turned the big
engine on? Why, in fact, did he need the little engine at all?

--
Tim Wescott
Control system and signal processing consulting
www.wescottdesign.com

[email protected] October 16th 11 04:58 PM

Jed Clampett-Mobile
 
On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 16:54:16 -0500, Tim Wescott
wrote:

On Sat, 15 Oct 2011 15:02:10 -0400, dav1936531 wrote:

Guy builds a steam powered whatever it is.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a15_1318636799

Very useful for.....well....nothing as far as I can tell, with the
exception that it could make some personal injury attorney alot of
money.


Of course, if you looked and thought while you were looking, you'd see
that it's an antique four-stroke gas engine (started by another antique
four-stroke gas engine). Probably all of 10 horsepower, but it's a
_steady_ 10 horsepower.

The only steam involved is cooling the engines.


Guess I didn't look too closely. I was too busy laughing at the
vibrating wagon seat bouncing up and down on its springs and thinking
the driver was going to get tossed into the road by them. I just saw
two large flywheels and thought "steam engine". A very dangerous
looking contraption.
Dave

steamer October 16th 11 05:16 PM

Jed Clampett-Mobile
 
--Heh. After the Fall of Civilization this is the guy you want for a
neighbor! :-)

--
"Steamboat Ed" Haas : Steel, Stainless, Titanium:
Hacking the Trailing Edge! : Guaranteed Uncertified Welding!
www.nmpproducts.com
---Decks a-wash in a sea of words---

Winston October 16th 11 07:59 PM

Jed Clampett-Mobile
 
steamer wrote:
--Heh. After the Fall of Civilization this is the guy you want for a
neighbor! :-)


Oops. Too late.

--Winston


Larry Jaques[_4_] October 16th 11 09:24 PM

Jed Clampett-Mobile
 
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:59:34 -0700, Winston
wrote:

steamer wrote:
--Heh. After the Fall of Civilization this is the guy you want for a
neighbor! :-)


Oops. Too late.


No, he means the event horizon which is extremely close now, Winnie.
It may wait until the 2012 elections, but ominousity looms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDhf_0QtM10

--
....in order that a man may be happy, it is
necessary that he should not only be capable
of his work, but a good judge of his work.
-- John Ruskin

Winston October 16th 11 11:59 PM

Jed Clampett-Mobile
 
Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:59:34 -0700,
wrote:

steamer wrote:
--Heh. After the Fall of Civilization this is the guy you want for a
neighbor! :-)


Oops. Too late.


No, he means the event horizon which is extremely close now, Winnie.
It may wait until the 2012 elections, but ominousity looms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDhf_0QtM10


I am sure this is apocryphal but it makes
me smile anyway:

“Our earth is degenerate in these latter days. There are signs
that the world is coming to an end. Children no longer obey their
parents. Everybody wants to write a book.
The end of the world is near.”

It was written by a discouraged Egyptian priest, in hieroglyphics,
about the year 2800 BC.

This is 'way closer to the truth, I am su
http://news.discovery.com/space/ig-n...ed-111004.html

--Winston

Larry Jaques[_4_] October 17th 11 01:03 AM

Jed Clampett-Mobile
 
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 15:59:03 -0700, Winston
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 11:59:34 -0700,
wrote:

steamer wrote:
--Heh. After the Fall of Civilization this is the guy you want for a
neighbor! :-)

Oops. Too late.


No, he means the event horizon which is extremely close now, Winnie.
It may wait until the 2012 elections, but ominousity looms.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDhf_0QtM10


I am sure this is apocryphal but it makes
me smile anyway:

“Our earth is degenerate in these latter days. There are signs
that the world is coming to an end. Children no longer obey their
parents. Everybody wants to write a book.
The end of the world is near.”


Heh heh heh. History do repeat herself, oui?


It was written by a discouraged Egyptian priest, in hieroglyphics,
about the year 2800 BC.

This is 'way closer to the truth, I am su
http://news.discovery.com/space/ig-n...ed-111004.html


Oh, reeeeealy, Winston. I talk about the fall of the 'Murrican
civilization and you bring up Doomsday. Can you not discern a slight
difference between the two?

--
....in order that a man may be happy, it is
necessary that he should not only be capable
of his work, but a good judge of his work.
-- John Ruskin

Richard[_9_] October 17th 11 01:39 AM

Jed Clampett-Mobile
 
For what it's worth...

SOME of us have already dropped out of civilization - end of the world
for them!

And some of us strive to keep entropy down to manageable levels.
For them there is still hope - and life.

YOU do what you feel is right for you.


Winston October 17th 11 02:50 AM

Jed Clampett-Mobile
 
Larry Jaques wrote:


Oh, reeeeealy, Winston. I talk about the fall of the 'Murrican
civilization and you bring up Doomsday.


You said:
"No, he means the event horizon which is extremely close now, Winnie."

Event Horizon:
"In layman's terms it is defined as "the point of no return"
i.e. the point at which the gravitational pull becomes so
great as to make escape impossible."

That is general enough to mean any precipitous irreversible
change that is likely to have dire consequences.
The fall of our empire and "Doomsday" can both
be described that way.

Can you not discern a slight
difference between the two?


"Recession, repression, man... It's all the same thing, man,"

-Cheech Marin

--Winston :)

Larry Jaques[_4_] October 17th 11 04:15 AM

Jed Clampett-Mobile
 
On Sun, 16 Oct 2011 18:50:05 -0700, Winston
wrote:

Larry Jaques wrote:


Oh, reeeeealy, Winston. I talk about the fall of the 'Murrican
civilization and you bring up Doomsday.


You said:
"No, he means the event horizon which is extremely close now, Winnie."

Event Horizon:
"In layman's terms it is defined as "the point of no return"
i.e. the point at which the gravitational pull becomes so
great as to make escape impossible."


Well, if American politics today isn't a black hole, what is?


That is general enough to mean any precipitous irreversible
change that is likely to have dire consequences.
The fall of our empire and "Doomsday" can both
be described that way.


OK, I'll let you say that, just once.

Can you not discern a slight
difference between the two?


"Recession, repression, man... It's all the same thing, man,"

-Cheech Marin


BTDT, and someone's entire lid got rolled up in the Big Bambu paper
got passed around by about twenty people at the Sandy Eggo Sports
Aroma before Florescent Leech and Eddy warmed up for the Allman
Brothers... I think that was two lives ago.

--
....in order that a man may be happy, it is
necessary that he should not only be capable
of his work, but a good judge of his work.
-- John Ruskin


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