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carbide vs. solid carbide? Cheap carbide?
"Jon Elson" wrote in message ... Ed Huntress wrote: g It's too bad that term has stuck. I've talked to a lot of people over the years who don't realize that "solid carbide" actually is a sintered material, with tungsten carbide and tantalum carbide particles cemented together with cobalt and/or other metals. The genesis of the non-solid variety, as far as I know, is that in the beginning, there were cutters made with steel shanks and the cutter was welded on, probably during the sintering process. I know this was true with carbide circuit board drills. I'm sure nobody makes them this way anymore, at least in modest sizes up to a couple inches diameter. Jon Right, brazed-tip cutters were probably what people were contrasting "solid" carbide cutters with, when the terms were first in use. Just for future reference, though, they wouldn't be welded. Tungsten carbide with a cobalt binder is usually liquid-phase sintered at around 2700 deg. F. That's the melting temperature of most steel. You'd have a carbide tip on a steel puddle. g They brazed the tips on. I have some old ones from the 1930s that were brazed with copper. Most are brazed with bronze (actually, brass). Today, they make special-purpose high-temperature silver braze for the application. -- Ed Huntress |
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carbide vs. solid carbide? Cheap carbide?
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "Jon Elson" wrote in message ... Ed Huntress wrote: g It's too bad that term has stuck. I've talked to a lot of people over the years who don't realize that "solid carbide" actually is a sintered material, with tungsten carbide and tantalum carbide particles cemented together with cobalt and/or other metals. The genesis of the non-solid variety, as far as I know, is that in the beginning, there were cutters made with steel shanks and the cutter was welded on, probably during the sintering process. I know this was true with carbide circuit board drills. I'm sure nobody makes them this way anymore, at least in modest sizes up to a couple inches diameter. Jon Right, brazed-tip cutters were probably what people were contrasting "solid" carbide cutters with, when the terms were first in use. Just for future reference, though, they wouldn't be welded. Tungsten carbide with a cobalt binder is usually liquid-phase sintered at around 2700 deg. F. That's the melting temperature of most steel. You'd have a carbide tip on a steel puddle. g They brazed the tips on. I have some old ones from the 1930s that were brazed with copper. Most are brazed with bronze (actually, brass). Today, they make special-purpose high-temperature silver braze for the application. Yes silver solder works well. And a copper or brass shim is often placed between the steel and the carbide to reduce stresses induced by cooling due to their unequal thermal expansion rates. |
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