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They buried Osama at sea? WTF!?!!!!???
On May 4, 8:17*pm, rangerssuck wrote:
On May 4, 7:07*pm, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Ignoramus15919 wrote: On 2011-05-04, wrote: On May 4, 3:28?pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote: I can not see how that would happen. ?Assuming he had the same medical problems, he would have had the same treatment and would be the same cost or drag to society's medical system. ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Dan If he were part of an insured community, he would be contributing to the pool from which everyone in that insurance cohort may or may not draw, depending on whether they have a health care need. He would be contributing whether or not he needed the service himself. That's insurance. Ed Huntress You are correct in that he is not contributing. * *So the net result is worse. *As I see it same drag, different amounts of support. Perhaps, if he was required to contribute, it would make him seek regular employment. * *Perhaps you should mind your own damn business. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's Teflon coated.- Gunner spent *OUR* tax dollars on his health care, with no plans to repay it. He then planned to sue the doctors involved, which would further drive up costs for the rest of us, then he came here, to RCM to crow about it incessantly. It is ALL OF OUR business.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - And yet Gummer refuses to get any job...even at McDonalds. The phase "freeloading deadbeat conservative parasite" comes to mind. TMT |
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Steve Ackman wrote:
, on Tue, 03 May 2011 15:39:24 -0700, Winston, wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E I think he should resign the Presidency and take up a career in comedy. *Right Now* Thursday morning we can put our hands together for the comedy stylings of Joe Biden. http://www.uncoverage.net/wp-content...0/07/biden.jpg --Winston -- Be careful what you ask for... |
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On May 4, 10:25*pm, Too_Many_Tools
Every American Tax Payer has contributed to Gunner's heathcare...and continued living expenses. TMT My share was less than half a cent and when rounded I paid nothing. But I am willing to pay somewhat more to help those that are poor. Dan |
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On Wed, 4 May 2011 08:13:30 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote: "Harold & Susan Vordos" wrote in message news "Too_Many_Tools" wrote in message ... On May 3, 1:15 am, "Harold & Susan Vordos" wrote: "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... Aparently, our Muslim in Chief didn't want to offend anyone? -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . *Give it a rest*. He claims to be a Christian. Damned shame you can't make the same claim. Harold "Christopher Tidy" wrote in ... Yes, seems odd. I mean, they have no qualms about going into a foreign country to kill a guy, but then they're worried about burying him according to local traditions? Chris- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I was thinking that too. For someone who "claims" to be a Christian, Storming will have some explaining to do when he is at the Pearly Gates. TMT I spent 56 years of my life living amongst those folks. Married one, for that matter. Fortunately, she got the picture and abandoned the cult (her decision). You may understand that I have more than a reasonable understanding of their ways, few of which are to be admired. No one can begin to understand how such *righteous* folks can abuse those that aren't of their faith (explore the Mountain Meadow Massacre as an excellent example). This Greek boy endured more at their hand than he cares to discuss. Imagine being made to feel like a total stranger in your home town. For people that claim to love Christ, they have much to learn. Their behavior is far from Christ-like (as you just witnessed). I fully expect that if there is a Creator, they'll burn in hell. Harold My experience parallels yours in many ways. Baptized into the church, excommunicated at my own request. They are definitely not Christians, as they consider their books to be superior to the bible, and they have practices and beliefs that are against the bible. There is definitely a creator, and they will definitely answer for their deeds, as we all will. One of the biggest troubles with the LDS cult is that it is a pyramid based on Masonic Ritual and advancement. Knowledge is on a need to know basis, and the dues paying supporters on the base level don't get the secret information until they move up the ladder. But for most of them, the lifestyle, support system, networking, and warm fuzzy feeling of all the other cultists close to them is enough. Leaving is not an option for many because that would be to lose contact with all their family. Yesterday, in Colorado City, Arizona, there was a book burning by local men who did not want any books in their community. It is said that orders came down from Warren Jeffs. It is just another example of mind control in a cult. The majority of the books were donated to communities throughout Utah, and what was left was burned. This is the FLDS that we hear so much about in the news, the polygamists, the true Mormon Church. The one who said, "We would rather follow our founder's prophecies and not be a part of the United States" when they were supposed to renounce polygamy as a condition for statehood. The rest of the LDS church received a policy changing revelation, and forbade polygamy. So, the large part of the LDS church does not even follow its original prophecies, but rather opts to follow the political winds. An interesting read is "Secret Ceremonies" by Deborah Laake. She was crazy as a pigeon coop rat, but divulges a lot about the inner workings of the "church". Steve Heart surgery pending? www.cabgbypasssurgery.com Heart Surgery Survival Guide I've seen that dude up close. Looked like over cooked pasta, but there weren't any defenseless under age little girls around. He was playing up the persecuted jesus gig. That group of LSD'ers are scarier than the others, but still with the same secret drone program in their eyes. Lifeless gaze like cow eyes they were. Seeing video of what those sick ****ers do to kids doesn't fade. So we finally put down another monster we helped to create... Wonder how much oil would be today if we let the Russians have some control back when and if we just let the area/opec dole it out? Would be cool to see exactly what this long term objective is, cause it sure is expensive. SW |
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" wrote: On May 4, 10:25 pm, Too_Many_Tools Every American Tax Payer has contributed to Gunner's heathcare...and continued living expenses. TMT My share was less than half a cent and when rounded I paid nothing. But I am willing to pay somewhat more to help those that are poor. That's a good attitude. It's easy for some fool to kick a man when he's down, rather than offer him help. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... " wrote: On May 4, 10:25 pm, Too_Many_Tools Every American Tax Payer has contributed to Gunner's heathcare...and continued living expenses. TMT My share was less than half a cent and when rounded I paid nothing. But I am willing to pay somewhat more to help those that are poor. That's a good attitude. It's easy for some fool to kick a man when he's down, rather than offer him help. Oh, don't try playing that violin. California has multiple insurance programs for low-income people, at both the state and the county level, including Medi-Cal (California's Medicaid) and the County Medical Services Program (CMSP). It isn't a matter of availability. It's a matter of whether one is at least minimally responsible, or not, and what the consequences are of not being responsible. -- Ed Huntress |
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On May 5, 7:14*am, " wrote:
On May 4, 10:25*pm, Too_Many_Tools Every American Tax Payer has contributed to Gunner's heathcare...and continued living expenses. TMT My share was less than half a cent and when rounded I paid nothing. But I am willing to pay somewhat more to help those that are poor. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Dan Then contribute to the Government agencies that help the poor to get a job. There is a hell of a difference between those who cannot work and those who will not work. Gummer is one of the latter. TMT |
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On May 5, 10:56*am, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: " wrote: On May 4, 10:25 pm, Too_Many_Tools Every American Tax Payer has contributed to Gunner's heathcare...and continued living expenses. TMT My share was less than half a cent and when rounded I paid nothing. But I am willing to pay somewhat more to help those that are poor. * *That's a good attitude. *It's easy for some fool to kick a man when he's down, rather than offer him help. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's Teflon coated. Gummer is where he is at by his own choice and "works" hard to stay there. TMT |
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On May 5, 12:55*pm, Too_Many_Tools
Then contribute to the Government agencies that help the poor to get a job. TMT I contribute to non government agencies that help the poor. I do not believe government agencies are efficient. Dan |
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On May 5, 2:23*pm, " wrote:
On May 5, 12:55*pm, Too_Many_Tools Then contribute to the Government agencies that help the poor to get a job. TMT I contribute to non government agencies that help the poor. *I do not believe government agencies are efficient. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Dan I contribute to both...each has its place. History shows us that nongovernment agencies have not been able to fulfill the needs of the poor. TMT |
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"Hawke" wrote in message ... On 5/3/2011 7:41 PM, RogerN wrote: "Gunner wrote in message ... WASHINGTON: The body of Al-Qaeda mastermind Osama bin Laden has been buried at sea after he was killed by US covert forces in Pakistan , US media reported Monday. Cable television networks CNN, MSNBC and Fox said a senior US official had confirmed to them that bin Laden's body had been buried in the sea, without giving further details. US officials did not respond when contacted by AFP for confirmation of the reports. I hope to hell they documented the **** out of the body. It would be nasty..if it were just another birth certificate thingy..... Gunner -- At first I got real excited and started cheering and everything, then I realized they said Osama, still good news though! :-) What's really sad for you is that you're going to have to deal with having Obama as your president all they way up until 2017. How do you like those apples? Hawke I have to give credit where credit is due. Recently the "Freedom from Religion Foundation" has been trying to get "One nation under God" removed from our pledge of allegiance. After announcing Osama's death, Obama said something to the effect "because we ARE one nation under God...". Obama threw it up in the face of the "Freedom from Religion Foundation", a group of atheist assholes that think the majority should suffer while the minority rules. So, for that I say Hooray, well done Mr. Obama! RogerN |
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Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:
So Osama is sitting on the sea bottom looking around. "WTF is this? 72 sturgeons?" Maybe a watery pun on the idea of 72 virgins? -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~sv_temptress |
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"RogerN" wrote in message m... I have to give credit where credit is due. Recently the "Freedom from Religion Foundation" has been trying to get "One nation under God" removed from our pledge of allegiance. After announcing Osama's death, Obama said something to the effect "because we ARE one nation under God...". Obama threw it up in the face of the "Freedom from Religion Foundation", a group of atheist assholes that think the majority should suffer while the minority rules. So, for that I say Hooray, well done Mr. Obama! RogerN ....and that statement of yours, Roger, is one reason (or item of evdence) why the practice of your ancient blood cult is dying out. Not before time, too. Really... ....if you can't see what's wrong with what you said there, you are beyond redemption. Ancient sacrifice or not. I believe your Christ would weep. -- Jeff R. |
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CaveLamb wrote: Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote: So Osama is sitting on the sea bottom looking around. "WTF is this? 72 sturgeons?" Maybe a watery pun on the idea of 72 virgins? While he sings, "Like a sturgeon, for the very first time!" ;-) -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
CaveLamb wrote: Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote: So Osama is sitting on the sea bottom looking around. "WTF is this? 72 sturgeons?" Maybe a watery pun on the idea of 72 virgins? While he sings, "Like a sturgeon, for the very first time!" ;-) You are a sick unit, Mike! -- Richard Lamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb http://www.home.earthlink.net/~sv_temptress |
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CaveLamb wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: CaveLamb wrote: Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote: So Osama is sitting on the sea bottom looking around. "WTF is this? 72 sturgeons?" Maybe a watery pun on the idea of 72 virgins? While he sings, "Like a sturgeon, for the very first time!" ;-) You are a sick unit, Mike! Thanks. I do try. ;-) -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a Band-Aid™ on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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On Tue, 3 May 2011 16:59:22 -0400, "ATP"
wrote: "Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . On Tue, 3 May 2011 12:25:11 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Ignoramus18758" wrote in message news:HpydnXLmyraAYyLQnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@giganews. com... On 2011-05-03, Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 02 May 2011 23:14:59 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 02 May 2011 20:06:57 -0500, Ignoramus896 wrote: On 2011-05-02, Gunner Asch wrote: On Mon, 02 May 2011 08:18:27 -0500, Ignoramus896 wrote: On 2011-05-02, Jim Wilkins wrote: On May 2, 5:32?am, Gunner Asch wrote: WASHINGTON: The body of Al-Qaeda mastermind Osama bin Laden has been buried at sea ... Gunner Thus denying his followers another Kaaba. I would assume that they took plenty of pictures. i If he got tagged in the head...there wont be much above the neck to ID. If he was shot in the face, most of the face should stil be there. You havent been around a lot of gunshot wounds have you? Especially not if it were from a .50BMG. This video ought to help: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyEnkQSA7s4&NR=1 That's a video of shooting at rocks. And they did not use a .50 BMG shooting at Osama. Thia is how a face shot looks like. http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=49952 Seriously. Which, along with that birth cert fraud...makes a fellow wonder..really. It sucks to have a president you simply cannot trust anything that comes out of his mouth. Makes one long for Bubba Clinton again..cringe --snip-- As far as I am concerned, and I may not have followed everything super closely, Barack Obama is unusually honest and upstanding for a politician. i Blink....you live in a cave...right? Or..someplace where radio/tv and the internet do not exist..right? The rest of my family is absolutely blind in this manner, too. They refuse to read or listen to anything negative about the man, evidently getting their info only from DNC spin sources/liberal TV. They will do no research whatsoever on the matter of politics. It's both scary and extremely maddening. I never watch TV, I read news online, including Drudge Report etc. I stand by my comment. I find President Obama to be above board honest. I do try to find evidence to the contrary. So far, all that "birthers" and other bull**** mongers accomplished, is that they undermined my trust in the Republican party even further. Now Newt Gingrich is going to teach me "morality"? i Why not, if Gunner can lecture us on fiscal responsibility? So Im "fiscally unresponsible" when work dries up, I have to drop my insurance, and then have a heart attack? Isnt that a bit Leftwing in world view..as long as it can be used for an attack..but Id be a ****ing Leftwinger Poster Child if I wasnt a conservative. Fiscally irresponsible, actually. You're a sad case, for sure. Really? And the vast number of Democrats (of which I am currently one..G) are.....fiscally Responsible? Care to provide cites? VEG I will indeed..respond..and you certainly will look foolish when I do. Take your best shot Gunner -- "If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight, it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified) |
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On Wed, 04 May 2011 11:53:16 -0500, Ignoramus15919
wrote: On 2011-05-03, Gunner Asch wrote: Why not, if Gunner can lecture us on fiscal responsibility? So Im "fiscally unresponsible" when work dries up, I have to drop my insurance, and then have a heart attack? Isnt that a bit Leftwing in world view..as long as it can be used for an attack..but Id be a ****ing Leftwinger Poster Child if I wasnt a conservative. You are a leftwinger poster child, even if you are a so called "conservative". Despite not being able to afford health insurance, you still end up being a cost to society because you go to emergency rooms of hospitals, then you threaten to sue them, drive up their insurance costs, and so on. Actually tovarich...I threatened to sue one of them, for billing me for ****ing up so badly. If they hadnt ****ed up..that particular $180k charge wouldnt have been necessary. Conceivably, if you were a part of organized health care system, you would be less of a drag on the society's medical system. But I am! a part of organized health care. VBG Sucks to be society doesnt it? Now please advise to one and all about my lectures on "fiscal responsiblity" on any level other than governmental. I think that fiscal responsibility begins at home. Fascinating subject change. When placed up against the wall..in a corner..with no escape..you try to change the subject. Sorry Tovarich..it doesnt work Please address the question Gunner i Please. Id be everso happy to review it. Failure to do so will simply make you look like just another pettty, buffoonish, scrot sucking ass****ing dope smoking low life mother****er Leftist. VBG Your turn, dimbulb. Gunner -- "If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight, it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified) |
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On Wed, 4 May 2011 13:24:57 -0700 (PDT), "
wrote: On May 4, 3:28*pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote: I can not see how that would happen. *Assuming he had the same medical problems, he would have had the same treatment and would be the same cost or drag to society's medical system. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Dan If he were part of an insured community, he would be contributing to the pool from which everyone in that insurance cohort may or may not draw, depending on whether they have a health care need. He would be contributing whether or not he needed the service himself. That's insurance. Ed Huntress You are correct in that he is not contributing. So the net result is worse. As I see it same drag, different amounts of support. Dan Furthermore..as I stated..up to 3 months before having the medical emergency..Id carried insurance for nearly 40 yrs. And live in California..where we ALL pay huge tax loads to cover the medical and social needs of our illegal alien population. So as far as Im concerned..I just got a little return on my tax investment Gunner -- "If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight, it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified) |
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On Tue, 3 May 2011 21:41:07 -0500, "RogerN" wrote:
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message .. . WASHINGTON: The body of Al-Qaeda mastermind Osama bin Laden has been buried at sea after he was killed by US covert forces in Pakistan , US media reported Monday. Cable television networks CNN, MSNBC and Fox said a senior US official had confirmed to them that bin Laden's body had been buried in the sea, without giving further details. US officials did not respond when contacted by AFP for confirmation of the reports. I hope to hell they documented the **** out of the body. It would be nasty..if it were just another birth certificate thingy..... Gunner -- At first I got real excited and started cheering and everything, then I realized they said Osama, still good news though! :-) RogerN ROFLMAO!!!! Well done! Except for the Mt. Dew on my screen...sigh. -- "If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight, it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified) |
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On Sat, 07 May 2011 12:43:46 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 11:53:16 -0500, Ignoramus15919 wrote: On 2011-05-03, Gunner Asch wrote: Why not, if Gunner can lecture us on fiscal responsibility? So Im "fiscally unresponsible" when work dries up, I have to drop my insurance, and then have a heart attack? Isnt that a bit Leftwing in world view..as long as it can be used for an attack..but Id be a ****ing Leftwinger Poster Child if I wasnt a conservative. You are a leftwinger poster child, even if you are a so called "conservative". Despite not being able to afford health insurance, you still end up being a cost to society because you go to emergency rooms of hospitals, then you threaten to sue them, drive up their insurance costs, and so on. Actually tovarich...I threatened to sue one of them, for billing me for ****ing up so badly. If they hadnt ****ed up..that particular $180k charge wouldnt have been necessary. Aren't you still paying that off, slowly? And how much of a "cost to society" did that session really cost? A couple thou in meds and facilities rental? I recall being incensed at the local hospital (Tri City in Oceanside/Vista/Carlsbad, CA) for blowing FOUR MILLION DOLLARS to remodel their lobby back in the '80s. Ask Ig how making an insurance company pay the funds (instead of the hospital) makes it somehow less of a cost to society. I think it's time to revamp the whole medical community. As routine as heart and stroke surgeries are today, how can one cost so much? $16 aspirin tablets? Conceivably, if you were a part of organized health care system, you would be less of a drag on the society's medical system. But I am! a part of organized health care. VBG Sucks to be society doesnt it? Had Obamacare been enacted by the time you had your surgery, you would have been on waivers because you couldn't pay $1,000/month for insurance anyway. How many millions of Americans are now on waivers because it costs too much to be a part of it? Numbers are growing weekly while doctors bail out daily, retiring by the thousands. Entire _states_ are now requesting waivers. Now please advise to one and all about my lectures on "fiscal responsiblity" on any level other than governmental. I think that fiscal responsibility begins at home. Fascinating subject change. When placed up against the wall..in a corner..with no escape..you try to change the subject. Sorry Tovarich..it doesnt work Please address the question I don't recall seeing you blowing vast (or even half-vast) sums of money on frills in the past decade, in lieu of spending it on insurance. -- The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum. whenever evil wins, it is only by default: by the moral failure of those who evade the fact that there can be no compromise on basic principles. -- Ayn Rand |
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On May 6, 11:11*am, Steve Ackman
wrote: In , on Wed, 04 May 2011 23:02:45 -0700, Winston, wrote: Steve Ackman wrote: , on Tue, 03 May 2011 15:39:24 -0700, Winston, wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9mzJhvC-8E * *I think he should resign the Presidency and take up a career in comedy. **Right Now* Thursday morning we can put our hands together for the comedy stylings of Joe Biden. http://www.uncoverage.net/wp-content...0/07/biden.jpg * Neither Obama nor Biden will/can do anything to improve things, so we might as well get the most laughs for our buck. * * Sure. *I'd love to see Obama resign to pursue a career in comedy. *Biden will step up, discover he also should be in comedy, and by then the next election will be in full swing, and all the voters straight from _Idiocracy_ can decide on the next clown to inhabit the White House. They have already improved things. Have you been living in an airport bathroom stall with Larry Craig? TMT |
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On May 7, 2:45*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 4 May 2011 13:24:57 -0700 (PDT), " wrote: On May 4, 3:28*pm, "Ed Huntress" wrote: I can not see how that would happen. *Assuming he had the same medical problems, he would have had the same treatment and would be the same cost or drag to society's medical system. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Dan If he were part of an insured community, he would be contributing to the pool from which everyone in that insurance cohort may or may not draw, depending on whether they have a health care need. He would be contributing whether or not he needed the service himself. That's insurance. Ed Huntress You are correct in that he is not contributing. * *So the net result is worse. *As I see it same drag, different amounts of support. Dan Furthermore..as I stated..up to 3 months before having the medical emergency..Id carried insurance for nearly 40 yrs. And live in California..where we ALL pay huge tax loads to cover the medical and social needs of our illegal alien population. So as far as Im concerned..I just got a little return on my tax investment Gunner -- "If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight, it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is six. " *Jonah Goldberg (modified)- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Excuse...excuse...excuse...Gummer alwasy has them. Definitely a conservative...a lying parasitical conservative. TMT |
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On Sat, 07 May 2011 15:21:36 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: Actually tovarich...I threatened to sue one of them, for billing me for ****ing up so badly. If they hadnt ****ed up..that particular $180k charge wouldnt have been necessary. Aren't you still paying that off, slowly? Nope. They dropped the bill entirely when they realized I was serious as..a heart attack. No apology..but..they dropped the bill. Gunner -- "If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight, it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified) |
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They buried Osama at sea? WTF!?!!!!???
On May 7, 5:21*pm, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 07 May 2011 12:43:46 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011 11:53:16 -0500, Ignoramus15919 wrote: On 2011-05-03, Gunner Asch wrote: Why not, if Gunner can lecture us on fiscal responsibility? So Im "fiscally unresponsible" when work dries up, I have to drop my insurance, and then have a heart attack? Isnt that a bit Leftwing in world view..as long as it can be used for an attack..but Id be a ****ing Leftwinger Poster Child if I wasnt *a conservative. You are a leftwinger poster child, even if you are a so called "conservative". Despite not being able to afford health insurance, you still end up being a cost to society because you go to emergency rooms of hospitals, then you threaten to sue them, drive up their insurance costs, and so on. Actually tovarich...I threatened to sue one of them, for billing me for ****ing up so badly. If they hadnt ****ed up..that particular $180k charge wouldnt have been necessary. Aren't you still paying that off, slowly? *And how much of a "cost to society" did that session really cost? *A couple thou in meds and facilities rental? *I recall being incensed at the local hospital (Tri City in Oceanside/Vista/Carlsbad, CA) for blowing FOUR MILLION DOLLARS to remodel their lobby back in the '80s. *Ask Ig how making an insurance company pay the funds (instead of the hospital) makes it somehow less of a cost to society. I think it's time to revamp the whole medical community. *As routine as heart and stroke surgeries are today, how can one cost so much? *$16 aspirin tablets? Conceivably, if you were a part of organized health care system, you would be less of a drag on the society's medical system. But I am! *a part of organized health care. *VBG *Sucks to be society doesnt it? Had Obamacare been enacted by the time you had your surgery, you would have been on waivers because you couldn't pay $1,000/month for insurance anyway. *How many millions of Americans are now on waivers because it costs too much to be a part of it? *Numbers are growing weekly while doctors bail out daily, retiring by the thousands. Entire _states_ are now requesting waivers. Now please advise to one and all about my lectures on "fiscal responsiblity" on any level other than governmental. I think that fiscal responsibility begins at home. Fascinating subject change. When placed up against the wall..in a corner..with no escape..you try to change the subject. Sorry Tovarich..it doesnt work Please address the question I don't recall seeing you blowing vast (or even half-vast) sums of money on frills in the past decade, in lieu of spending it on insurance. -- The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum. whenever evil wins, it is only by default: by the moral failure of those who evade the fact that there can be no compromise on basic principles. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Ayn Rand- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Ever priced smoking? Ever priced drinking? Ever stiffed creditors? Ever not pay taxes? Gummer blows money on crap, doesn't pay his bills or taxes. TMT |
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They buried Osama at sea? WTF!?!!!!???
On Sat, 07 May 2011 20:27:25 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote: On Sat, 07 May 2011 15:21:36 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: Actually tovarich...I threatened to sue one of them, for billing me for ****ing up so badly. If they hadnt ****ed up..that particular $180k charge wouldnt have been necessary. Aren't you still paying that off, slowly? Nope. They dropped the bill entirely when they realized I was serious as..a heart attack. No apology..but..they dropped the bill. So, no bill, no cost to society. -- The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum. whenever evil wins, it is only by default: by the moral failure of those who evade the fact that there can be no compromise on basic principles. -- Ayn Rand |
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They buried Osama at sea? WTF!?!!!!???
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Sat, 07 May 2011 20:27:25 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 07 May 2011 15:21:36 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: Actually tovarich...I threatened to sue one of them, for billing me for ****ing up so badly. If they hadnt ****ed up..that particular $180k charge wouldnt have been necessary. Aren't you still paying that off, slowly? Nope. They dropped the bill entirely when they realized I was serious as..a heart attack. No apology..but..they dropped the bill. So, no bill, no cost to society. Convenient, isn't it? If you didn't know Gunner, you'd almost believe that he's telling the truth. -- Ed Huntress |
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They buried Osama at sea? WTF!?!!!!???
On May 8, 8:27*am, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Sat, 07 May 2011 20:27:25 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 07 May 2011 15:21:36 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: Actually tovarich...I threatened to sue one of them, for billing me for ****ing up so badly. If they hadnt ****ed up..that particular $180k charge wouldnt have been necessary. Aren't you still paying that off, slowly? Nope. They dropped the bill entirely when they realized I was serious as..a heart attack. No apology..but..they dropped the bill. So, no bill, no cost to society. * -- The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum. whenever evil wins, it is only by default: by the moral failure of those who evade the fact that there can be no compromise on basic principles. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Ayn Rand The cost was just moved to society...so we all pay higher costs for Gummer's fraud. TMT |
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They buried Osama at sea? WTF!?!!!!???
On May 8, 8:30*am, "Ed Huntress" wrote:
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Sat, 07 May 2011 20:27:25 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 07 May 2011 15:21:36 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: Actually tovarich...I threatened to sue one of them, for billing me for ****ing up so badly. If they hadnt ****ed up..that particular $180k charge wouldnt have been necessary. Aren't you still paying that off, slowly? Nope. They dropped the bill entirely when they realized I was serious as..a heart attack. No apology..but..they dropped the bill. So, no bill, no cost to society. * Convenient, isn't it? If you didn't know Gunner, you'd almost believe that he's telling the truth. -- Ed Huntress- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - LOL...Gummer has been lying so long that he is an expert at it. TMT |
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On Sun, 08 May 2011 06:27:46 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Sat, 07 May 2011 20:27:25 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 07 May 2011 15:21:36 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: Actually tovarich...I threatened to sue one of them, for billing me for ****ing up so badly. If they hadnt ****ed up..that particular $180k charge wouldnt have been necessary. Aren't you still paying that off, slowly? Nope. They dropped the bill entirely when they realized I was serious as..a heart attack. No apology..but..they dropped the bill. So, no bill, no cost to society. Or a much smaller bill. Afterall..a couple lawyers indicated the lawsuit would have been in the $5 million dollar range.. Im curious if the Lefties would have been ****ed off if Id actually gone ahead with it and sued the Giant Medical Monopoly..or would they be begging me for donations? Gunner -- "If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight, it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified) |
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On May 8, 4:18*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Sun, 08 May 2011 06:27:46 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: On Sat, 07 May 2011 20:27:25 -0700, Gunner Asch wrote: On Sat, 07 May 2011 15:21:36 -0700, Larry Jaques wrote: Actually tovarich...I threatened to sue one of them, for billing me for ****ing up so badly. If they hadnt ****ed up..that particular $180k charge wouldnt have been necessary. Aren't you still paying that off, slowly? Nope. They dropped the bill entirely when they realized I was serious as..a heart attack. No apology..but..they dropped the bill. So, no bill, no cost to society. * Or a much smaller bill. Afterall..a couple lawyers indicated the lawsuit would have been in the $5 million dollar range.. Im curious if the Lefties would have been ****ed off if Id actually gone ahead with it and sued the Giant Medical Monopoly..or would they be begging me for donations? Gunner If those couple of lawyers thought that they had any chance of actually winning that suit, they would have done everything in their power to convince you to continue. You are, as usual, blowing smoke. |
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