"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:22:40 -0500, Ignoramus9529
wrote:

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama
was born.

So we have records of her visit to the US?


You snipped the rest of the text, where it is clarified that she was
in Kenya and Obama was born in US.

Then if she was present when he was born..she would have had to have
come to the States..right? You doing without your coffee this
afternoon?

It was a translation mistake.

Then you are saying that the actual mistake was that she said he was
born in Kenya and she was there, and not she was there in Hawaii?

The mistake was in translating what she said as "she was present at
birth".

Then she was correct when she said he was born in Kenya?

``No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.''


Then she wasnt present when he was born. Or she was in America at the
time.

Sure. She was "present" in Kenya. Or do you do translations from Swahili?


Think grandmothers would like about their grandchildren like that?

Gunner

Grandmothers usually like their grandchildren -- even yours, I'll bet. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress

In article , wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:22:40 -0500, Ignoramus9529
wrote:

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was
born.

So we have records of her visit to the US?


You snipped the rest of the text, where it is clarified that she was
in Kenya and Obama was born in US.

Then if she was present when he was born..she would have had to have
come to the States..right? You doing without your coffee this
afternoon?

It was a translation mistake.

Then you are saying that the actual mistake was that she said he was
born in Kenya and she was there, and not she was there in Hawaii?

The mistake was in translating what she said as "she was present at
birth".

Then she was correct when she said he was born in Kenya?

``No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.''


Then she wasnt present when he was born. Or she was in America at the
time.

Think grandmothers would like about their grandchildren like that?

What part of "it was a translation mistake" are you finding so confusing?

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:47:54 -0700 (PDT), Rex
wrote:

On Apr 28, 7:48*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 03:50:02 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:



On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 02:01:33 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:48:08 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:
My sense, is that a lot of right wingers don't like the
socialist agenda, and the reckless spending. The birth issue
was quick and easy way to get him out.

Yeah, but if they had political sense they would have known it was
not the best or quickest way.

The quickest way is an Oswald..but not the best way.

The best way is to vote him out..but its hardly the quickest way.

Do you have any other options?

Voting him out is fine. *Perfect even. *I don't need another option.

If some idiot does an Oswald we'll go up in flames.

Tom...Im afraid we are going up in flames anyways.

Particularly if that birth cert is fraudulant..and it appears to be
so...shrug

Gunner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOfYwYyS_c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zsQ-...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCjAmEgjkUc

Fascinating indeed......

--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " *Jonah Goldberg (modified)

Interesting analysis of the document in this discussion

http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=44575

Fascinating...VBG

"
This is will open more questions than the short version. Whoever
released it is an IDIOT or wants to be a whistleblower "

Oh this is going to be very very good.....laugh laugh laugh!!

Gunner

--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:18:18 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:34:51 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:03:21 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:25:16 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

rangerssuck wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate

"It may have been good politics and good TV, but it was bad for the
American
people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a
country."

It certainly distracted a lot of people from his genuine
shortcomings,
so
thanks a lot birthers.

So..is it a forgery or is it real?
So lets see an actual Photocopy of the birth certificate. You do
know
that the above..is not a photocopy, dontcha?


It is a photocopy, you moron.

What it "isn't", is a Photostat. A process that made negative copies.

Paul K. Dickman

Photostat..ok. So its NOT a photostat of the actual document. Correct?

Odd how its all green and everything. Were things printed on green
paper
in 1961?


Once again, you moron.
The green part isn't the part that is copied,
it is the paper it is copied onto.
It is green safety copier paper.

Paul K. Dickman

Id rather like to see the original...it would be far far more
belivable.

Afterall..the Democrat Gov of Hawaii said it couldnt be found.....

So I take it you voted for Obama, given all the frothing you are doing
about the questioning if its real or not.

So hows that Hopey/Changey thingy working out for you?


Gunner

From another newsgroup...


After two and a half years, Obama comes up with a forgery.
Anybody with two eyes who buys this piece of **** as genuine, I
got a country full of trees with hundred dollar bills growing on
every branch I'd like to sell you. Cheap.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ama/8477589/Ba
rack-Obama-hits-back-at-birthers-and-releases-birth-
certificate.html

Look at the type. If this birth certificate was prepared on the
same typewriter, the partial strikes of the "O" and "K" keys
would be consistent throughout the document. They are not. The
capital "O" is misaligned in 6b yet aligned with other letters
through the document. This is an impossibility since the upper
and lower characters are on the same striking key.

Compare blocks 7d, 11 and 16. Same thing. Typewriters may have
been antiquidated pieces of ****, but the striking keys did not
jump all over the place like they do on this supposed long form
document.

Where was this "birth certificate" when the Lt. Governor of
Hawaii was looking for it to certify Obama's eligibility for the
ballot? Why couldn't the state registrar find it then? The Lt.
Governor refused to certify Obama because the birth certificate
did not exist then.

All this time, and Obama couldn't still couldn't hire a good
enough forger to pull it off."

Interesting....very interesting....

Gunner



Hey, moron.
Take a look at blocks 7b, 12b and 16 of the birth certificate you claim is
what they are supposed to look like.

This is what they are supposed to look like...G

http://www.wnd.com/images/090728birthcert.gif

That's what I got.


Manual typewriters do that all the time.

But of course you know it must be a fake, because you know the truth.

He is the love child of Malcolm X and Xena: warrior princess, and he was
actually born in an alien spacecraft hovering over a Potemkin village in the
Urals.


Paul K. Dickman

"This is will open more questions than the short version. Whoever
released it is an IDIOT or wants to be a whistleblower"

LAUGH LAUGH LAUGH!!

http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=44575

VBG

Gunner

--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 20:21:01 GMT, (Doug
Miller) wrote:

In article , wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:22:40 -0500, Ignoramus9529
wrote:

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was
born.

So we have records of her visit to the US?


You snipped the rest of the text, where it is clarified that she was
in Kenya and Obama was born in US.

Then if she was present when he was born..she would have had to have
come to the States..right? You doing without your coffee this
afternoon?

It was a translation mistake.

Then you are saying that the actual mistake was that she said he was
born in Kenya and she was there, and not she was there in Hawaii?

The mistake was in translating what she said as "she was present at
birth".

Then she was correct when she said he was born in Kenya?

``No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.''


Then she wasnt present when he was born. Or she was in America at the
time.

Think grandmothers would like about their grandchildren like that?

What part of "it was a translation mistake" are you finding so confusing?

So there were actually 2 translation mistakes? Odd about that.

Btw...go to youtube and type in "obama admits being born in kenya" and
you can view the Obammassiah himself telling a crowd he was born in
Kenya..not the US.

Oh..from another newsgroup G


I saw two errors on the birth certificate. The race of the father. In
the early 60s they put Negro. and in block 15 the age of the mother
was 18 but she was only 17.


VBG

Fascinating..no?

Gunner

--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

(Doug Miller) wrote:

In article , wrote:

I'm not suprized the President released this, there are states that have made
disclosure a requirement to get on the ballot.

Name one.

Arizona
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

Ned Simmons wrote:

According to Laurence O'Donnald of MSNBC, NBC has decided to renew the
show "The Apprentice" for another year. The Donald will clearly be doing
the show. So that means the run for the presidency is off. He'd rather
be on a TV show than the president. But then we all knew that all along,
didn't we?

My wife and I mulled over Trump's dilemma last night. The sensible
thing would be to continue "The Apprentice" and use it to pick his
cabinet and Supreme Court appointees. Who says you can't have it all?

We could do worse.

Wes

"Wes" wrote in message
...
(Doug Miller) wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

I'm not suprized the President released this, there are states that have
made
disclosure a requirement to get on the ballot.

Name one.

Arizona

Brewer vetoed it. As far as I know, no state has passed such a bill yet.

--
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--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:18:18 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:34:51 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:03:21 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
news:99lgr654inlfod4dp0mf35rie1qnpf2j5i@4ax. com...
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:25:16 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

rangerssuck wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate

"It may have been good politics and good TV, but it was bad for the
American
people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a
country."

It certainly distracted a lot of people from his genuine
shortcomings,
so
thanks a lot birthers.

So..is it a forgery or is it real?
So lets see an actual Photocopy of the birth certificate. You do
know
that the above..is not a photocopy, dontcha?


It is a photocopy, you moron.

What it "isn't", is a Photostat. A process that made negative copies.

Paul K. Dickman

Photostat..ok. So its NOT a photostat of the actual document. Correct?

Odd how its all green and everything. Were things printed on green
paper
in 1961?


Once again, you moron.
The green part isn't the part that is copied,
it is the paper it is copied onto.
It is green safety copier paper.

Paul K. Dickman

Id rather like to see the original...it would be far far more
belivable.

Afterall..the Democrat Gov of Hawaii said it couldnt be found.....

So I take it you voted for Obama, given all the frothing you are doing
about the questioning if its real or not.

So hows that Hopey/Changey thingy working out for you?


Gunner

From another newsgroup...


After two and a half years, Obama comes up with a forgery.
Anybody with two eyes who buys this piece of **** as genuine, I
got a country full of trees with hundred dollar bills growing on
every branch I'd like to sell you. Cheap.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ama/8477589/Ba
rack-Obama-hits-back-at-birthers-and-releases-birth-
certificate.html

Look at the type. If this birth certificate was prepared on the
same typewriter, the partial strikes of the "O" and "K" keys
would be consistent throughout the document. They are not. The
capital "O" is misaligned in 6b yet aligned with other letters
through the document. This is an impossibility since the upper
and lower characters are on the same striking key.

Compare blocks 7d, 11 and 16. Same thing. Typewriters may have
been antiquidated pieces of ****, but the striking keys did not
jump all over the place like they do on this supposed long form
document.

Where was this "birth certificate" when the Lt. Governor of
Hawaii was looking for it to certify Obama's eligibility for the
ballot? Why couldn't the state registrar find it then? The Lt.
Governor refused to certify Obama because the birth certificate
did not exist then.

All this time, and Obama couldn't still couldn't hire a good
enough forger to pull it off."

Interesting....very interesting....

Gunner



Hey, moron.
Take a look at blocks 7b, 12b and 16 of the birth certificate you claim is
what they are supposed to look like.

This is what they are supposed to look like...G

http://www.wnd.com/images/090728birthcert.gif

That's what I got.


Manual typewriters do that all the time.

But of course you know it must be a fake, because you know the truth.

He is the love child of Malcolm X and Xena: warrior princess, and he was
actually born in an alien spacecraft hovering over a Potemkin village in the
Urals.


Paul K. Dickman


The interesting point is not really whether Obama's birth certificate
is true or false, it is "why wasn't this discovered this before the
election?"

The argument seems to be that Obama wasn't a native born citizen and
thus can't legally be President. One would think that the party he was
running for, or the party he was running against would have assured
themselves that he really was qualified before the election, doesn't
one?

Apparently neither the Democrats nor the Republicans have enough sense
to pound sand in a rat hole and we are presently governed by the
smartest guy in the whole bunch..... after all he must have slickered
everyone.

Cheers,

John D. Slocomb
(jdslocombatgmail)

On 2011-04-29, Ed Huntress wrote:

"Wes" wrote in message
...
(Doug Miller) wrote:

In article ,
wrote:

I'm not suprized the President released this, there are states that have
made
disclosure a requirement to get on the ballot.

Name one.

Arizona

Brewer vetoed it. As far as I know, no state has passed such a bill yet.


The bill was vetoed.

i

On Apr 28, 4:21*pm, (Doug Miller)
wrote:

What part of "it was a translation mistake" are you finding so confusing?

He had a stroke ;-)

On Apr 28, 8:50*pm, J. D. Slocomb wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 10:18:18 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"





wrote:

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:34:51 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
m...
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:03:21 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
news:99lgr654inlfod4dp0mf35rie1qnpf2j5i@4ax. com...
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:25:16 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

rangerssuck wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...mas-long-form-...

"It may have been good politics and good TV, but it was bad for the
American
people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a
country."

It certainly distracted a lot of people from his genuine
shortcomings,
so
thanks a lot birthers.

So..is it a forgery or is it real?
So lets see an actual Photocopy of the birth certificate. *You do
know
that the above..is not a photocopy, dontcha?

It is a photocopy, you moron.

What it "isn't", is a Photostat. A process that made negative copies.

Paul K. Dickman

Photostat..ok. *So its NOT a photostat of the actual document. Correct?

Odd how its all green and everything. Were things printed on green
paper
in 1961?

Once again, you moron.
The green part isn't the part that is copied,
it is the paper it is copied onto.
It is green safety copier paper.

Paul K. Dickman

Id rather like to see *the original...it would be far far more
belivable.

Afterall..the Democrat Gov of Hawaii said it couldnt be found.....

So I take it you voted for Obama, given all the frothing you are doing
about the questioning if its real or not.

So hows that Hopey/Changey thingy working out for you?

Gunner

From another newsgroup...

After two and a half years, Obama comes up with a forgery.
Anybody with two eyes who buys this piece of **** as genuine, I
got a country full of trees with hundred dollar bills growing on
every branch I'd like to sell you. *Cheap.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ama/8477589/Ba
rack-Obama-hits-back-at-birthers-and-releases-birth-
certificate.html

Look at the type. *If this birth certificate was prepared on the
same typewriter, the partial strikes of the "O" and "K" keys
would be consistent throughout the document. *They are not. *The
capital "O" is misaligned in 6b yet aligned with other letters
through the document. *This is an impossibility since the upper
and lower characters are on the same striking key.

Compare blocks 7d, 11 and 16. *Same thing. *Typewriters may have
been antiquidated pieces of ****, but the striking keys did not
jump all over the place like they do on this supposed long form
document.

Where was this "birth certificate" when the Lt. Governor of
Hawaii was looking for it to certify Obama's eligibility for the
ballot? *Why couldn't the state registrar find it then? *The Lt.
Governor refused to certify Obama because the birth certificate
did not exist then.

All this time, and Obama couldn't still couldn't hire a good
enough forger to pull it off."

Interesting....very interesting....

Gunner

Hey, moron.
Take a look at blocks 7b, 12b and 16 of the birth certificate you claim is
what they are supposed to look like.

This is what they are supposed to look like...G

http://www.wnd.com/images/090728birthcert.gif

That's what I got.

Manual typewriters do that all the time.

But of course you know it must be a fake, because you know the truth.

He is the love child of Malcolm X and Xena: warrior princess, and he was
actually born in an alien spacecraft hovering over a Potemkin village in the
Urals.

Paul K. Dickman

The interesting point is not really whether Obama's birth certificate
is true or false, it is "why wasn't this discovered this before the
election?"

The argument seems to be that Obama wasn't a native born citizen and
thus can't legally be President. One would think that the party he was
running for, or the party he was running against would have assured
themselves that he really was qualified before the election, doesn't
one?

Apparently neither the Democrats nor the Republicans have enough sense
to pound sand in a rat hole and we are presently governed by the
smartest guy in the whole bunch..... after all he must have slickered
everyone.

Cheers,

John D. Slocomb
(jdslocombatgmail)

One WOULD think those things, and one would be correct in one's
thinking. The problem is that after the election, certain people were
not happy with the results and have, since then, done everything they
could think of to change the result.

Perhaps if their party had taken the election (and their opponent)
seriously, and put up serious canditates for President AND vice
president, the result would have been different. But they thought it
all a joke and a beauty contest, and they got what they got.

And the guy in the White House is, most certainly the smartest of the
whole bunch who ran in that election, and I, for one, am happy that
the smartest candidate won.

rangerssuck wrote:
On Apr 27, 10:29 am, Ignoramus14859 ignoramus14...@NOSPAM.
14859.invalid wrote:
On 2011-04-27, rangerssuck wrote:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...mas-long-form-...

Do you think the liars will apologize now?

i

No.

As a matter of fact, Donald Trump is very busy being proud of himself
for accomplishing what no one else has been able to accomplish. But,
he says, he'll have to examine the document to make sure it's
authentic.

I'm waiting to see Donalds tax returns.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-pro...-were-waiting/

Ignoramus14859 wrote:

What is really disgusting, is Republicans repeating these lies and
trying to nonchalantly pass them up as established facts.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...l_hatchet.html


But that's what they always do. SOP. Birthers, death panels, ........

"Bob F" wrote in message
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rangerssuck wrote:
On Apr 27, 10:29 am, Ignoramus14859 ignoramus14...@NOSPAM.
14859.invalid wrote:
On 2011-04-27, rangerssuck wrote:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...mas-long-form-...

Do you think the liars will apologize now?

i

No.

As a matter of fact, Donald Trump is very busy being proud of himself
for accomplishing what no one else has been able to accomplish. But,
he says, he'll have to examine the document to make sure it's
authentic.

I'm waiting to see Donalds tax returns.

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-pro...-were-waiting/

Don't hold your breath. One of The Donald's greatest talents is squirming
out of commitments.

--
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"Wes" wrote in message
...
Ned Simmons wrote:

According to Laurence O'Donnald of MSNBC, NBC has decided to renew the
show "The Apprentice" for another year. The Donald will clearly be doing
the show. So that means the run for the presidency is off. He'd rather
be on a TV show than the president. But then we all knew that all along,
didn't we?

My wife and I mulled over Trump's dilemma last night. The sensible
thing would be to continue "The Apprentice" and use it to pick his
cabinet and Supreme Court appointees. Who says you can't have it all?

We could do worse.


Bush already did...

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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 01:48:07 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:

Compare blocks 7d, 11 and 16. Same thing. Typewriters may have
been antiquidated pieces of ****, but the striking keys did not
jump all over the place like they do on this supposed long form
document.

That can happen when the ribbon is reused.


Can this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPX33ZNdmlo

VBG

Oh come on. It disappears along with the green because Acrobat is using
black and white with a threshold darker than the one.

That guy knows nothing, and he sounds so sure.


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J. D. Slocomb wrote:

Apparently neither the Democrats nor the Republicans have enough sense
to pound sand in a rat hole and we are presently governed by the
smartest guy in the whole bunch..... after all he must have slickered
everyone.

That's a reassuring way to look at it.

But I think he wasn't so smart or he would have had this released long, long
ago.


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On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:53:54 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 01:48:07 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:

Compare blocks 7d, 11 and 16. Same thing. Typewriters may have
been antiquidated pieces of ****, but the striking keys did not
jump all over the place like they do on this supposed long form
document.

That can happen when the ribbon is reused.


Can this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPX33ZNdmlo

VBG

Oh come on. It disappears along with the green because Acrobat is using
black and white with a threshold darker than the one.

Odd...it certainly doesnt look like its lighter..and it sure looked like
it was pixelized unlike all the other numbers/letters.

Why would it be the only pixilized charector in that string?

In your opinion..could that number have been added to the
document..exchanged for another charector?

Why is it pixilized?

That guy knows nothing, and he sounds so sure.

Answer the above questions if you would be so kind. Its obvious that you
are an expert in Adobe.

Please let us know

Gunner

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"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

Gunner Asch wrote:

Odd...it certainly doesnt look like its lighter..and it sure looked
like it was pixelized unlike all the other numbers/letters.

It became pixelated because it was lighter. It's a black and white copier
after all (using colored paper) so anything gray has to be pixelated.


Why would it be the only pixilized charector in that string?

It's the only one that's lighter.


In your opinion..could that number have been added to the
document..exchanged for another charector?

Sure it could be, in which case it would be identical to another digit, and
not unique as it is. If it was modified, pixels on its edges would be
changed between black and white, not black and gray.


Why is it pixilized?

There was a smudge on the copier glass.


That guy knows nothing, and he sounds so sure.

Answer the above questions if you would be so kind. Its obvious that
you are an expert in Adobe.

If you're an expert in forgery methods tell me how it would result in
looking like a copy made through smudged glass.


Please let us know

No trouble.


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On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 02:54:40 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:

Odd...it certainly doesnt look like its lighter..and it sure looked
like it was pixelized unlike all the other numbers/letters.

It became pixelated because it was lighter. It's a black and white copier
after all (using colored paper) so anything gray has to be pixelated.

Ah..no. It wont.


Why would it be the only pixilized charector in that string?

It's the only one that's lighter.

Ah..no.


In your opinion..could that number have been added to the
document..exchanged for another charector?

Sure it could be, in which case it would be identical to another digit, and
not unique as it is. If it was modified, pixels on its edges would be
changed between black and white, not black and gray.

Correct. So why are the other charectors nice and clear..and that one
shows very definate pixilization. And its not because its "lighter"



Why is it pixilized?

There was a smudge on the copier glass.


That guy knows nothing, and he sounds so sure.

Answer the above questions if you would be so kind. Its obvious that
you are an expert in Adobe.

If you're an expert in forgery methods tell me how it would result in
looking like a copy made through smudged glass.

Because the center was cut and pasted onto the raw paper format.
Afterall..copy machines print in (1) layer. This file has (9) seperate
and individual layers, as do anything that was manufactured using
software and pasted together.

As I recall..one of the investigators determined it was something run on
a Mac.


Please let us know

No trouble.

Still waiting for signs of your expertise. So far..its not obvious. Care
to try again?

Gunner

--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

On Apr 29, 4:50*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 02:54:40 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"

wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote:

Odd...it certainly doesnt look like its lighter..and it sure looked
like it was pixelized unlike all the other numbers/letters.

It became pixelated because it was lighter. *It's a black and white copier
after all (using colored paper) so anything gray has to be pixelated.

Ah..no. *It wont.



Why would it be the only pixilized charector in that string?

It's the only one that's lighter.

Ah..no.



In your opinion..could that number have been added to the
document..exchanged for another charector?

Sure it could be, in which case it would be identical to another digit, and
not unique as it is. *If it was modified, pixels on its edges would be
changed between black and white, not black and gray.

Correct. *So why are the other charectors nice and clear..and that one
shows very definate pixilization. And its not because its "lighter"



Why is it pixilized?

There was a smudge on the copier glass.

That guy knows nothing, and he sounds so sure.

Answer the above questions if you would be so kind. Its obvious that
you are an expert in Adobe.

If you're an expert in forgery methods tell me how it would result in
looking like a copy made through smudged glass.

Because the center was cut and pasted onto the raw paper format.
Afterall..copy machines print in (1) layer. This file has (9) seperate
and individual layers, as do anything that was manufactured using
software and pasted together.

As I recall..one of the investigators determined it was something run on
a Mac.



Please let us know

No trouble.

Still waiting for signs of your expertise. So far..its not obvious. Care
to try again?

Gunner



Guunner (or any of thje rest of you conspiracy theorists)

Skipping all the other bull****, please answer one simple question:
Where do you buy gray toner for your copier?

If you can't answer that, your arguments just kind of fall apart,
don't they?

On Apr 29, 1:58*am, "Tom Del Rosso" wrote:
J. D. Slocomb wrote:

Apparently neither the Democrats nor the Republicans have enough sense
to pound sand in a rat hole and we are presently governed by the
smartest guy in the whole bunch..... after all he must have slickered
everyone.

That's a reassuring way to look at it.

But I think he wasn't so smart or he would have had this released long, long
ago.

--

Reply in group, but if emailing add one more
zero, and remove the last word.

Oh, I don't know about that. He let it run long enough for them to dig
themselves a pretty deep hole.

"Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote in message
diainc...
Bob F wrote:

snip


I'm waiting to see Donalds tax returns.

I'm waiting to see his real hair line.

Here it is. It starts at 5:50 into the video clip:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/we...th-certificate

--
Ed Huntress

http://www.theonion.com/articles/tru...-hes-no,20250/


--
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Hacking the Trailing Edge! : Guaranteed Uncertified Welding!
www.nmpproducts.com
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On 30 Apr 2011 02:12:18 GMT, steamer wrote:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/tru...-hes-no,20250/

'
Thats the Onion for you. But they have come up with some good parodies
on the Obamassiah too. G

Gunner

--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

On 30 Apr 2011 02:12:18 GMT, steamer wrote:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/tru...-hes-no,20250/

snort Good 'un, Ed.

This just in: Finally, a valid reason for breast implants!
http://goo.gl/g2tPC

--
Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come
alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs
is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:58:45 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

J. D. Slocomb wrote:

Apparently neither the Democrats nor the Republicans have enough sense
to pound sand in a rat hole and we are presently governed by the
smartest guy in the whole bunch..... after all he must have slickered
everyone.

That's a reassuring way to look at it.

But I think he wasn't so smart or he would have had this released long, long
ago.

What other President has published his birth certificate? If the
answer is "none" then why should the present incumbent?

If the answer is "because some disgruntled people don't believe him"
then what happens next? The same people start screaming "The
President's got a mole on his ass" and he has to moon them on national
TV?

Cheers,

John D. Slocomb
(jdslocombatgmail)

"J. D. Slocomb" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:58:45 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

J. D. Slocomb wrote:

Apparently neither the Democrats nor the Republicans have enough sense
to pound sand in a rat hole and we are presently governed by the
smartest guy in the whole bunch..... after all he must have slickered
everyone.

That's a reassuring way to look at it.

But I think he wasn't so smart or he would have had this released long,
long
ago.

What other President has published his birth certificate? If the
answer is "none" then why should the present incumbent?

If the answer is "because some disgruntled people don't believe him"
then what happens next? The same people start screaming "The
President's got a mole on his ass" and he has to moon them on national
TV?

Cheers,

John D. Slocomb
(jdslocombatgmail)

"What happens next" is they start asking for his college transcripts.
Oh....that's already happened....

Well, they could ask for DNA tests of his children. Maybe next week.

--
Ed Huntress

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 22:25:33 +0700, J. D. Slocomb
wrote:

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:58:45 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

J. D. Slocomb wrote:

Apparently neither the Democrats nor the Republicans have enough sense
to pound sand in a rat hole and we are presently governed by the
smartest guy in the whole bunch..... after all he must have slickered
everyone.

That's a reassuring way to look at it.

But I think he wasn't so smart or he would have had this released long, long
ago.

What other President has published his birth certificate? If the
answer is "none" then why should the present incumbent?

Every one of them has. Along with their school records (all of which
seem to be missing from the Obamassiah)

Proving the birth certificate to meet the qualifications is a
Requirement.

In fact..it was Hawaii that refused to certify him for the office of
president in 2008. Fact.

"Hawaii Democratic Party Refused to Certify Obama’s Eligibility

The national Democratic Party depends on the 50 state Democratic Parties
to certify a presidential candidate’s eligibility. But Hawaii’s
Democratic Party in 2008 refused to certify that Barack Hussein Obama
was eligible for the presidency. Why are we finding out about this only
now, 20 months into the Obama presidency?

Given this, does this make the national Democratic Party’s certification
of Obama null and void? Is there a constitutional lawyer out there who
knows? Hello? "

And further....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXFwqUi3zR0

Shrug

So if one believes that the laws of the land should be ignored...then
Freedom of Speech no longer exists and you can be assasinated with no
regard. Correct?

VBG


If the answer is "because some disgruntled people don't believe him"
then what happens next? The same people start screaming "The
President's got a mole on his ass" and he has to moon them on national
TV?

Cheers,

John D. Slocomb
(jdslocombatgmail)

review the above video.

Gunner

--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 09:24:02 -0700, Gunner Asch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nKVp...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc5JE...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR7Ez...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zsQ-...eature=related

Was he lying..or telling the truth......?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls8wM...eature=related

Was Machelle lying..or telling the truth.....?

And yet....the Left seems to think..its ok for him to violate the
Constitution and American law.....

Seems a few Brits do too...pity.


Gunner

--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 09:38:09 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sat, 30 Apr 2011 09:24:02 -0700, Gunner Asch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nKVp...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nc5JE...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR7Ez...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zsQ-...eature=related

Was he lying..or telling the truth......?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ls8wM...eature=related

Was Machelle lying..or telling the truth.....?

And yet....the Left seems to think..its ok for him to violate the
Constitution and American law.....

Seems a few Brits do too...pity.


Gunner


And to top it all off..even George Soros is pulling out....VBG

Hedge fund billionaire George Soros has been a top financial backer of
Democratic election causes in recent years, donating more than $20
million in 2004. But how he approaches next year’s races is up in the
air, Politico reports.

“Since I don’t know what I’m going to do, I can’t tell you,” he told the
news service. Last October Soros hinted he may be finished contributing
to the kind of Democratic-linked groups he backed seven years ago. The
2004 extravaganza was “an exception,” he said.

In a speech Thursday, Soros lamented the lack of bipartisanship.
Political extremism is “endangering our open society,” he said. “As I
see it, the two sides in the current disputes have each got hold of one
half of the truth which they proclaim to be the whole truth.”


--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

Gunner Asch on Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:21:57 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:


In 1990, Obama beat out 18 other contenders to become the first
black president of the Harvard Law Review, where he spent at least
50 hours a week editing submissions from judges, scholars and
authors.

When did he go to class?

The rest of it is nothing compared to what was overlooked in the
Clinton years. It's a waste of time.


There are lots of people with time on their hands....VBG
Crom knows his party has put a ****load of people on unemployment..or
off unemployment when it ran out.

They have PLENTY of time to keep checking things out. Now that the
Obamassiah finally did something...Im betting they are going to
forensic check everything they can find.

Once the birth cert is reviewed..the same birth cert that the
Governor of Hawaii..a Democrat, admits they couldnt
find...(fascinating how that changed once Trump started winning
surveys..isnt it VBG)...they are going to go after all those
missing school records.

At least when the Obamassiah presented a COLB at first..the
possiblity existed that his original had gone missing by mishap or
mischance...but now that its suddenly and miraculously
appeared...any denials about his school records..is simply....not
going to be tolerated.

VBG

Its gonna really really suck to be a Leftwinger who kneels before the
Obamassiah......

VBG

Gunner


Oh..I forgot to mention..


So JonnieBoi....I take it you dont like the line of questioning Im
bringing up?

Laugh laugh laugh!!

That was posted....11 yrs ago.

Is that the best you can do???

Laugh laugh laugh!!!

Looks like Jonnieboi has a lot off spare time on his hands too.

I wonder how that hope and change is working out for him?



From: Gunner )
Subject: Why buy a 7.62 x 39 caliber rifle?
Newsgroups: misc.survivalism
Date: 2000/06/21

--
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

Gunner Asch on Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:01:53 -0700
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:03:21 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:25:16 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:
rangerssuck wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate

"It may have been good politics and good TV, but it was bad for the American
people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a country."

It certainly distracted a lot of people from his genuine shortcomings, so
thanks a lot birthers.

So..is it a forgery or is it real?
So lets see an actual Photocopy of the birth certificate. You do know
that the above..is not a photocopy, dontcha?


It is a photocopy, you moron.

What it "isn't", is a Photostat. A process that made negative copies.

Paul K. Dickman

Photostat..ok. So its NOT a photostat of the actual document. Correct?

Odd how its all green and everything. Were things printed on green paper
in 1961?

It actually looks like a cut and paste from another birth cert with only
a few things changed.

Surely its not..right? After all..the Governor of Hawii himself spent
months trying to find it..along with his crews..and it didnt turn up.

I wonder where it was....???

VBG

This should be very very interesting if it does turn out to be yet
ANOTHER fraud from the Obamassiah....oh yes indeed...indeedy.

At this point in time ... I'm considering Obama, and most of the
Democrat talking heads for that matter, to be badly prepared
comedians, who couldn't get a real gig, so they're blithering on in
the political field.
Because Obama's promises all have expiration dates on them, and
his assurances to do anything favorable for "the people" have as much
validity as an assurance that he is go to put a porch on the cheek of
your caterpillar's bazooka.
--
pyotr filipivich
"Obama saying I should be happy about a $1.85 trillion deficit
because of a $100 billion tax cut, reminds me of a line from
The Princess Bride: "My brains, his steel, and your strength against
sixty men, and you think a little head jiggle is supposed to make me happy?". pudge on April 16, 2009 12:08 AM

Why the Obama Birth Certificate is a Bust
4/27/11 | HMV

Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 8:55:45 PM by Hillary'sMoralVoid

The Obama Birth Certificate presents far more questions than answers:

First of all, it is not a source document or even a direct copy of a
source document. It is an electronic document (PDF) seemingly derived
from an OCR process that treats some portions of the document as images
and some as characters. At best, it is a second generation document that
emulates the original but is not an exact copy. Because of this, one
cannot ascertain whether the variations between the original and the
OCR-derived document distort the data, either intentionally or
unintentionally. At worst, it is a forgery.

Secondly, it is incomprehensible why anyone would take a source document
and convert it into an electronic document through a process that
creates a hybrid of characters and images, unless there was a desire to
tamper with those images and characters. To allow such a document to be
published in this manner just begs for deeper scrutiny.

Third, to publish the document with the layers of the images and
characters still intact further compromises the credibility of the
document. This publishing job has been described as "amateurish", not a
term anyone would want to use to describe what should be
incontrovertable proof of one's birth. In the format it was presented,
it offers present-day sleuths to peel back the layers and perform
forensic analysis.

Finally, to present this image of an original 1961 document over a
present-day computer-generated background is perplexing, and certainly
detracts from the fidelity with the original that the document should
possess.

A simple image file can certainly be photo-shopped, but a certified
image would present a more accurate and professional means of
communicating the content of what is supposedly in the files in
Honolulu.

This document reminds me of an old Buick in Cuba that still sorta looks
like a Buick, but doesn't have many original parts, but is loaded down
with excessive paraphenalia that only detracts from it's original
appearance.

The question that lingers in the case of the Obama Birth Certificate is
"Why?".
***

To people that use Adobe this is a forgery.
Obama’s new Birth Certificate - Proven to be altered and changed, Now
Just More Questions?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9CSvGrT0uM
President Obama’s Birth Certificate PDF has Layers - FAKE! (mirror)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-gDH5z0PKI
Obama’s Long Form Certificate of Birth Certificate is a Forgery ~
04-27-11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQkulIT7iL
This guy tried to get multiple layers from a scanned in document.
Couldn’t.
White House Birth Certificate is Forgery? 2 of 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPX33ZNdmlo
I think it is a forgery.
The pixelation of the number up at the top “10641” If you do a high
magnification on it.
You can se pixelation around it.
Obama’s Birth Certificate Is 100% Fake? Professional Graphics Designer
Agrees It’s A Fake 1 of 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCMxVbPCPBY
Why does President Obama’s Birth Certificate PDF Have Layers? 3 of 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLTtengEvwk
Obama’s Birth Certificate Exposed Debunked as a Layered, Photoshopped,
Fraud Hoax? 4 of 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeSzXcv3nXk

Obama Birth Certificate Scam? 2011-04-27 Obama.mp4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOfYwYyS_c

***
To: Hillary'sMoralVoid; rovenstinez; ecomcon; Longbow1969;
cruise_missile; Cicero; WOSG; Jack Black; ...

Mr Denninger did a superb piece of forensic work.

I worked a lot on scanners myself (QC for a scanner manufacturer) and
there’s no question in my mind that the last “1” in the birth
certificate number was added digitally. It is amazing how much evidence
that little number contains.

Beside the points already made my Denninger, if you take a close look
you will notice two more things:

1. the pixel size is different from the other digits (look at the
staircase effect along diagonals)
2. the pixels of that “1” have different gradations of gray, in other
words it hasn’t been thresholded like the other digits (whose pixels are
solid black or solid white, something that happens when you do a black
and white scan.

Trump should hire the best image processing guy and he’ll blow this
thing wide open as a fraud!
***
This whole BC thing is a put up. A Fairy Tail!

It's a slight of hand and there is no reason to have not put an original
copy of his Long Form Birth Certificate out there in the 1st place.

But, think of it. There are three that are known to exist or have
existed and has at least two in his possessoin:


* The Birth Certificate that was submitted for his admission into
the Hawaiian school system. The files containing that BC and his
records for immunization are sealed by court order on MuBarak's
requrest.



* "If" he used an American Passport for travel to Indonesia and
Pakistan, when he turned 18, he would have a copy of his birth
certificate from that event.



* He absolutely has a Birth Certificate, in it's original black &
white format, that "He Found" Among His Mother's belongings, when she
passed in 1995.



* A friend just reminded me that one gets married they are required
to present a Long Form Birth Certificate!!! NO KIDDING!?? I had
completely overlooked that!!!



* I do wonder if he had to submit another BC when he returned back
to the Hawaii school system to re-enter school???




Let them claim there is no long form.

1st. They and everyone has said all along the COLB is an abstract. A
COLB is a walkup document, meaning you can walk up to the desk, ask for
your BC and they will provide an abstract, called a COLB in about 10
minutes. That means there is a long form and Hawaii statutes, starting
at (318)

2nd. Hawaii already said they have seen Barry O.'s vital records and
issued two statements - blah, blah, blah, right?

3rd. Barry O. never had to show his long form BC ever, in his life, for
anything? Like obtaining a passport. That one document is better than
a drivers license. It saying to the world you are who is contained in
the passport document, which is based on an investigation of your
background and YOU MUST provide a Birth Certificate as foundational
proof of who YOU say you are. From there the State Department does
their background check on you and if you are who you say you are with no
ammendments, modifications or whatever to your identity they issue it
clean.

Most adults can go to a desk or filing cabinet in his house and produce
a birth certificate in a few minutes?


Barry O. tried to pass of something that was inconsistent with what the
rest of have and know to be a “Birth Certificate”.

The so called COLB has many flaws with it:

*
His father’s race could never have been listed as “African”. That
was not the nomenclature at all, in the 1960’s. So that begins the
suspicion of a fraudulent document.
*
The COLB is also cropped in many of the pictures that claim it is
a scan. If it is a scan, why not leave the document and size intact?
*
The COLB also has no artifacts such paper folds. A scan does not
make those disappear and in fact will highlight them.
*
The COLB that is scanned mysteriously does not show the Seal of
Hawaii. Why? Because it was computer generated and not scanned. Guess
they forgot to add that back in.
*
More over, many of us are concerned and want to know why he wasted
time producing a document that is inconsistent with what we know a Birth
Certificate looks like.

The best part and even more confusing is why he didn't release any of
the three Birth Certificates we know already existed before 2007.

*
His kindergarten records and the BC, that should be there, have
mysteriously disappeared.
*
The BC he used to get into college, apply for loans and most
definitely used for his passport. That wasn't available?
*
Why couldn't he just present the one he found among his mother's
belongings upon her death. He waxed on and wondered about it and his
father in one of his books. Why not post that one?

Those were most certainly BC’s and not a COLB. There is no reason to
create confusion but, for the fact he is hiding something. That
something will be discovered, though and this is a long process.

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and
old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece,
with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m
left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part,
in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to
ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or
perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that
they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a
fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams From My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)

So with all these Birth Certificates lying around, why did he feel it
necessary to produce a "Certification of Live Birth" that is
inconsistent with a Birth Certificate and wholly lacking all of the
information you would find, in you know, a Birth Certificate?

He seemed to have some emotional attachment to the Birth Certificate
found among his mother’s belongings. Why wouldn’t he just slap that one
up, for all the world to see?

It seemed important that he found a document that is called a “Birth
Certificate” and it is highly unlikely he would not know what one looks
like.

Hope no one brings up some house fire that vaporized his BC. That was
in 1972 and none of the documents listed here would have been affected
by that “fishy” event.

The point of the birth certificate is to uncover this man's past for
it's factual existence and not the narrative we have been told.

We want to know if he ever traveled, went to school in America, obtained
loans, etc in another name or as a foreign student or as a foreigner!!!!

That is what we are after at a minimum.

Finally, there can be no doubt Barak was in fact born with a divided
citizenship. He proudly admits as much.

That means if we were conscripted by draft into the United States
Military during a conflict, when he was 18, he could have avoided the
draft by simply returning to another country of his citizenship. We
know and he admits he was a citizen of Kenya at the age of 18 so he
could have returned with no penalty, to Kenya and not even I would call
him a draft dodger if had under those circumstances.

You are wholly one thing or another but not two distinctly different and
separate things that conflict with each other's existence.

He was born with a divided allegiance and is "Not a Natural Born
Citizen". Might be a citizen but, he ain't a Natural Born Citizen.


And so on and so forth.

It will be interesting to see how this all works out.

Gunner


--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

J. D. Slocomb wrote:

If the answer is "because some disgruntled people don't believe him"
then what happens next? The same people start screaming "The
President's got a mole on his ass" and he has to moon them on national
TV?

He's already committed enough crimes against the Constitution that he
should be twisting in the wind.

http://ronpaul2012.com

Cheers
Rich

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
Why the Obama Birth Certificate is a Bust
4/27/11 | HMV

Posted on Wednesday, April 27, 2011 8:55:45 PM by Hillary'sMoralVoid

The Obama Birth Certificate presents far more questions than answers:

First of all, it is not a source document or even a direct copy of a
source document. It is an electronic document (PDF) seemingly derived
from an OCR process that treats some portions of the document as images
and some as characters. At best, it is a second generation document that
emulates the original but is not an exact copy. Because of this, one
cannot ascertain whether the variations between the original and the
OCR-derived document distort the data, either intentionally or
unintentionally. At worst, it is a forgery.

snip extensive b.s.

As Fox News pointed out, this, and the rest of your Insanosphere nonsense,
is a fiction based on the fact that your "experts" apparently didn't realize
that it's a common thing that integrated scanning and OCR software does. And
to an expert, it's clear that it was the software trying to OCR the
typewritten text and the handwriting, not to someone intentionally
manipulating it.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...ificate-legit/

Sticking to conservative sources, note that _National Review_ points out
that it's also common with Acrobat.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner...athan-goulding

The image released by the White House, which the Insanosphere denizens are
analyzing, is indeed a PDF:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...-long-form.pdf

As Phil Silvers said in "A Funny Thing Happened On the Way To the Forum"
about his virgin, you got a bum "expert."

--
Ed Huntress

In article , wrote:

What other President has published his birth certificate? If the
answer is "none" then why should the present incumbent?

Every one of them has. Along with their school records (all of which
seem to be missing from the Obamassiah)

Proving the birth certificate to meet the qualifications is a
Requirement.

Requirement of what? Got a cite for that?

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
...
In article ,
wrote:

What other President has published his birth certificate? If the
answer is "none" then why should the present incumbent?

Every one of them has. Along with their school records (all of which
seem to be missing from the Obamassiah)

Proving the birth certificate to meet the qualifications is a
Requirement.

Requirement of what? Got a cite for that?

Don't let him off the hook on this one. He's completely full of crap.

--
Ed Huntress

Doug Miller wrote:
wrote:
[attribution dropped]
What other President has published his birth certificate? If the
answer is "none" then why should the present incumbent?

Every one of them has. Along with their school records (all of which
seem to be missing from the Obamassiah)

Proving the birth certificate to meet the qualifications is a
Requirement.

Requirement of what? Got a cite for that?

"No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States,
at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the
Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office
who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been
fourteen Years a Resident within the United States."

-- Constitution of the United States, Article II, section I, paragraph
5.

Hope This Helps!
Rich