On 2011-04-27, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:33:35 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-27, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:29:22 -0700, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote:

MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see
his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was
born in Kenya?

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

So we have records of her visit to the US?


You snipped the rest of the text, where it is clarified that she was
in Kenya and Obama was born in US.

Then if she was present when he was born..she would have had to have
come to the States..right? You doing without your coffee this
afternoon?

It was a translation mistake.

So she either lied about being present when he was born..or someone is
lying about him being born in Hawaii.

Simple..no?


Republicans like you give the remaining 10% of them a bad reputation.

The remaining 10%? Then you are claiming that 90% of the Republicans
dont think he was US born?

Btw..Im a registered Democrat. Just so you should know.

My point exactly.

i

"Wes" wrote in message
...
"Ed Huntress" wrote:

More like Trump claiming he had "information" that Obama's original record
was "lost," or that he has "investigators" in Hawaii. No one can find any
evidence they exist, nor anyone they have talked to in Hawaii. They must
be
awfully small...

Can we get forensic testing of the actual long form?

Why? If someone doesn't believe the Hawaii officials on this, Wes (the head
of that department, who said she saw it twice, is a Republican), then
they'll never believe anything. They'll just keep finding more reasons to
believe it's a fraud.

A pdf isn't proof. Might as well
get that out, it will be coming.

Nothing is "proof," except belief in the integrity of the states'
record-keeping system. The birthers are a little nuts. To continue with this
now, they'll have to appear even more nuts. I suspect they'll quiet down
soon, and if they don't, they'll play right into the Democrats' hands in the
next election. Centrists don't want to be associated with nuts, and it's the
center that will determine the next election, as it usually does.


FWIW, Bill O'Reily investigated this and his team found notices in the
newspaper of the
birth so I'm not inclined to be a birther though has been fun watching
this. I'm not
suprized the President released this, there are states that have made
disclosure a
requirement to get on the ballot.

I don't think any state has passed this yet. Jan Brewer vetoed it in
Arizona, and the other states are beginning to realize they will run into a
Constitutional problem if they refuse to accept *other* states'
certification. See Article IV, Section 1. And Congress can dictate the
procedures they have to use, under the same Section.

The question is whether each states' authority to run its own elections
extends to how they will treat candidates from other states. I don't think
the S.C. has ruled on this specific point, although I haven't done a
thorough search.


I did do a bit of research, I was going to ask where his foot print was
but that isn't
what is done. Too bad, it could have eliminated a lot of identity fraud
over the years.

g No, those are "souvenir" certificates. They aren't certified and, in NJ,
you can't even use one to get a driver's license.


I *wish* we would quit wasting time on Trump, he is as republican as Mayor
for life
Bloomberg. I was really hoping Halley would run but he decided he would
rather have a
life.

Wes

Maybe the Republicans can get Bob Dole to run again. I haven't seen him in
Viagra commercials for years, so maybe he's not too busy.

--
Ed Huntress

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:03:21 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:25:16 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

rangerssuck wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate

"It may have been good politics and good TV, but it was bad for the
American
people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a country."

It certainly distracted a lot of people from his genuine shortcomings,
so
thanks a lot birthers.

So..is it a forgery or is it real?
So lets see an actual Photocopy of the birth certificate. You do know
that the above..is not a photocopy, dontcha?


It is a photocopy, you moron.

What it "isn't", is a Photostat. A process that made negative copies.

Paul K. Dickman

Photostat..ok. So its NOT a photostat of the actual document. Correct?

Odd how its all green and everything. Were things printed on green paper
in 1961?

It actually looks like a cut and paste from another birth cert with only
a few things changed.

Surely its not..right? After all..the Governor of Hawii himself spent
months trying to find it..along with his crews..and it didnt turn up.

I wonder where it was....???

VBG

This is b.s., as I documented in another post.

--
Ed Huntress


This should be very very interesting if it does turn out to be yet
ANOTHER fraud from the Obamassiah....oh yes indeed...indeedy.

Gunner

--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:10:09 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:32:47 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:

So..is it a forgery or is it real?
So lets see an actual Photocopy of the birth certificate. You do know
that the above..is not a photocopy, dontcha?

Obviously it isn't a photocopy, but they could forge that too.
Interesting
how even the signatures are duplicated on paper that didn't exist at the
time. The proper approach from the start would have been for an
independent
media (which we don't have) to go and look for it, but they rushed off to
Alaska instead.


This is what they are supposed to look like...G

http://www.wnd.com/images/090728birthcert.gif

That's what I got.


Yall do understand..that if its a fraudulant document..the Obamassiah
will be impeached and imprisoned faster than a fart floats...right?

No he won't be. This is a long way from having 5 women testify that he
raped them.

It's even a long way from having 950 personal FBI files sent to the White
House, one of which got Nixon one of his 5 articles of impeachment.
That's
950 articles of impeachment to Nixon's 5. And Nixon's said it didn't
matter
if he knew about it because he was responsible anyway.

So you can't seriously believe he'll be impeached.

You're wasting time that should be spent getting him voted out for things
we
know, instead of impeached for things we're not sure of.


And while we are at it....how about all of his school records?

If they start at age 5 that wouldn't prove he was born here, while we
know
that his formative years were in a country that wouldn't allow us to put
a
carrier in their harbor when we were trying to bring them aid after a
tsunami. So he didn't learn much about the US there. This is where the
focus should have been. Along with his attitude woward private business
(enemy territory) expessed in his memoirs. And the fact that his
abortion
position is to the left of NARAL, because NARAL had no objection to
requiring doctors to give life support to babies born alive during a
failed
abortion. What a mindset this guy has.


In 1990, Obama beat out 18 other contenders to become the first black
president of the Harvard Law Review, where he spent at least 50 hours
a week editing submissions from judges, scholars and authors.

When did he go to class?

The rest of it is nothing compared to what was overlooked in the Clinton
years. It's a waste of time.


There are lots of people with time on their hands....VBG
Crom knows his party has put a ****load of people on unemployment..or
off unemployment when it ran out.

They have PLENTY of time to keep checking things out. Now that the
Obamassiah finally did something...Im betting they are going to forensic
check everything they can find.

Once the birth cert is reviewed..the same birth cert that the Governor
of Hawaii..a Democrat, admits they couldnt find...(fascinating how that
changed once Trump started winning surveys..isnt it VBG)...they are
going to go after all those missing school records.

At least when the Obamassiah presented a COLB at first..the possiblity
existed that his original had gone missing by mishap or mischance...but
now that its suddenly and miraculously appeared...any denials about his
school records..is simply....not going to be tolerated.

VBG

Its gonna really really suck to be a Leftwinger who kneels before the
Obamassiah......

VBG

Gunner


Oh..I forgot to mention..Im curious..why did the Obamassiah spend over
$2 MILLION dollars up to now, to prevent any and everyone from seeing
this alleged real birth cert?

He didn't. This is another lie you've picked up as truth. He had a total
post-election legal bill of $1.7 million. Only a small amount, according to
lawyers who know the situation, had anything to do with supplying affidavits
regarding Obama's citizenship.


It was the taxpayers money after all..and the question is going to be
asked over and over.....

So perhaps one of you Lefties could let us know why he and you spent
$2,000,000+ of our money to prevent the simple showing of this document
for over 3 yrs?

Inquiring minds..really want to know. Oh indeedy.

See above, you phony.


And Im still wondering why the State of Hawaii refused to acknowlege him
as a natural born citizen in 2008..

They didn't.

and why the Governor of Hawaii ..a
Democrat, claimed that they couldnt find it in January of this year?

He did. You're relying on World Nut Daily lies.


It really tends to stick in ones mind....the answer to those
questions...
VBG

The only thing that would stick in the back of your mind is a magnetic
grenade.

--
Ed Huntress

On 4/27/2011 3:39 PM, Wes wrote:
"Ed wrote:

More like Trump claiming he had "information" that Obama's original record
was "lost," or that he has "investigators" in Hawaii. No one can find any
evidence they exist, nor anyone they have talked to in Hawaii. They must be
awfully small...

Can we get forensic testing of the actual long form? A pdf isn't proof. Might as well
get that out, it will be coming.

FWIW, Bill O'Reily investigated this and his team found notices in the newspaper of the
birth so I'm not inclined to be a birther though has been fun watching this. I'm not
suprized the President released this, there are states that have made disclosure a
requirement to get on the ballot.

I did do a bit of research, I was going to ask where his foot print was but that isn't
what is done. Too bad, it could have eliminated a lot of identity fraud over the years.

I *wish* we would quit wasting time on Trump, he is as republican as Mayor for life
Bloomberg. I was really hoping Halley would run but he decided he would rather have a
life.

Wes



According to Laurence O'Donnald of MSNBC, NBC has decided to renew the
show "The Apprentice" for another year. The Donald will clearly be doing
the show. So that means the run for the presidency is off. He'd rather
be on a TV show than the president. But then we all knew that all along,
didn't we?

Hawke

Ed Huntress wrote:
id wrote in message
...
On 2011-04-27, wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate

Do you think the liars will apologize now?

i

Ha-ha! Are you kidding? Trump is already crowing. That's after he told
Anderson Cooper a couple of days ago that he had information that the
original record was "lost."

Now the rest of the country has seen what those of us in the NYC area have
known for years: Trump is a phony and a con man, a self-promoter who cares
about nothing but himself. And his hair.g



a well seasoned politician then.

John

"John" wrote in message
...
Ed Huntress wrote:
id wrote in message
...
On 2011-04-27, wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate

Do you think the liars will apologize now?

i

Ha-ha! Are you kidding? Trump is already crowing. That's after he told
Anderson Cooper a couple of days ago that he had information that the
original record was "lost."

Now the rest of the country has seen what those of us in the NYC area
have
known for years: Trump is a phony and a con man, a self-promoter who
cares
about nothing but himself. And his hair.g



a well seasoned politician then.

John

Beyond politician. He'd sell you the Brooklyn Bridge while trying to steal
your wife.

--
Ed Huntress

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:34:51 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:03:21 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:25:16 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

rangerssuck wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate

"It may have been good politics and good TV, but it was bad for the
American
people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a country."

It certainly distracted a lot of people from his genuine shortcomings,
so
thanks a lot birthers.

So..is it a forgery or is it real?
So lets see an actual Photocopy of the birth certificate. You do know
that the above..is not a photocopy, dontcha?


It is a photocopy, you moron.

What it "isn't", is a Photostat. A process that made negative copies.

Paul K. Dickman

Photostat..ok. So its NOT a photostat of the actual document. Correct?

Odd how its all green and everything. Were things printed on green paper
in 1961?


Once again, you moron.
The green part isn't the part that is copied,
it is the paper it is copied onto.
It is green safety copier paper.

Paul K. Dickman

Id rather like to see the original...it would be far far more
belivable.

Afterall..the Democrat Gov of Hawaii said it couldnt be found.....

So I take it you voted for Obama, given all the frothing you are doing
about the questioning if its real or not.

So hows that Hopey/Changey thingy working out for you?


Gunner

--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:10:40 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-27, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:33:35 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-27, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:29:22 -0700, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote:

MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see
his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was
born in Kenya?

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

So we have records of her visit to the US?


You snipped the rest of the text, where it is clarified that she was
in Kenya and Obama was born in US.

Then if she was present when he was born..she would have had to have
come to the States..right? You doing without your coffee this
afternoon?

It was a translation mistake.

Then you are saying that the actual mistake was that she said he was
born in Kenya and she was there, and not she was there in Hawaii?

Oddly enough..she changed her story to him being born in Hawaii..not
that she WASNT there when he was born.

Or was there 2 mistakes?

Hummm???

VBG


So she either lied about being present when he was born..or someone is
lying about him being born in Hawaii.

Simple..no?


Republicans like you give the remaining 10% of them a bad reputation.

The remaining 10%? Then you are claiming that 90% of the Republicans
dont think he was US born?

Btw..Im a registered Democrat. Just so you should know.

My point exactly.

i

You failed to answer the question. Please do, so I can reply with actual
data and make you look like a fruit loop.

VBG

Gunner

--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:48:08 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:
My sense, is that a lot of right wingers don't like the
socialist agenda, and the reckless spending. The birth issue
was quick and easy way to get him out.

Yeah, but if they had political sense they would have known it was not the
best or quickest way.


The quickest way is an Oswald..but not the best way.

The best way is to vote him out..but its hardly the quickest way.

Do you have any other options?

Gunner

--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:45:51 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-27, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
My sense, is that a lot of right wingers don't like the
socialist agenda, and the reckless spending. The birth issue
was quick and easy way to get him out.

Yeah, but if they had political sense they would have known it was not the
best or quickest way.



If they had a notion that it is better to be honest, rather than to
engage in "quick and dirty ways", then they would not make the
remaining 10% of Republicans look bad.

Are you speaking of the Democrats..who spent $2 million dollars of
taxpayer money to hide his birth cert?

What are you saying?

Gunner

--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:02:32 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:29:22 -0700, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote:

MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see
his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was
born in Kenya?

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

So we have records of her visit to the US?

My neighbor says she saw the interview on TV of his grandmother saying
that she saw him when he was born. She saw it only once, saying that
it was quickly sequestered. shrug



--
Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come
alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs
is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman

On 2011-04-28, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:10:40 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-27, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:33:35 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-27, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:29:22 -0700, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote:

MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see
his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was
born in Kenya?

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

So we have records of her visit to the US?


You snipped the rest of the text, where it is clarified that she was
in Kenya and Obama was born in US.

Then if she was present when he was born..she would have had to have
come to the States..right? You doing without your coffee this
afternoon?

It was a translation mistake.

Then you are saying that the actual mistake was that she said he was
born in Kenya and she was there, and not she was there in Hawaii?

The mistake was in translating what she said as "she was present at
birth".


Oddly enough..she changed her story to him being born in Hawaii..not
that she WASNT there when he was born.

Or was there 2 mistakes?

Hummm???

VBG


So she either lied about being present when he was born..or someone is
lying about him being born in Hawaii.

Simple..no?


Republicans like you give the remaining 10% of them a bad reputation.

The remaining 10%? Then you are claiming that 90% of the Republicans
dont think he was US born?

Btw..Im a registered Democrat. Just so you should know.

My point exactly.

i

You failed to answer the question. Please do, so I can reply with actual
data and make you look like a fruit loop.

VBG

Gunner

On 2011-04-28, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:45:51 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-27, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
My sense, is that a lot of right wingers don't like the
socialist agenda, and the reckless spending. The birth issue
was quick and easy way to get him out.

Yeah, but if they had political sense they would have known it was not the
best or quickest way.



If they had a notion that it is better to be honest, rather than to
engage in "quick and dirty ways", then they would not make the
remaining 10% of Republicans look bad.

Are you speaking of the Democrats..who spent $2 million dollars of
taxpayer money to hide his birth cert?

What are you saying?


I am saying that the Republican party has lost all credibility in my
eyes.

They would need to work pretty hard to earn it back.

i

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 17:39:23 -0700, Hawke
wrote:


According to Laurence O'Donnald of MSNBC, NBC has decided to renew the
show "The Apprentice" for another year. The Donald will clearly be doing
the show. So that means the run for the presidency is off. He'd rather
be on a TV show than the president. But then we all knew that all along,
didn't we?

My wife and I mulled over Trump's dilemma last night. The sensible
thing would be to continue "The Apprentice" and use it to pick his
cabinet and Supreme Court appointees. Who says you can't have it all?

--
Ned Simmons

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:13:55 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:35:16 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:29:10 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-27, rangerssuck wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate

Do you think the liars will apologize now?

It sure took the CIA a long time to fake that thing, didn't it?

Id doubt it was the CIA. NSA maybe..but Im sure he doesnt have any big
fans in any of those organizations. Forgers are easy to find, if you
have lots of money to spend.

Oh, I forgot. He comes from Daileyville. He doesn't need the NSA.


Afterall..he spent $2 million dollars + to prevent it from being shown
in court and so forth.

That and all his other papers (and Michelle's) from college, etc.
Michelle's thesis was titled "Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black
Community." They're both black-obsessed, and I think probably quite
racist. How non-PC of them!

Ever listen to what he says? There's quite a lot of it, and he goes
on for hours, but in the end analysis, nothing was said. It's entirely
rhetoric and fluff. I'm amazed that Ig is still (or ever was) a
Believer.


One simply has to wonder why he spent so much taxpayers money on hiding
it..and why the various government officials of Hawaii have gone on
record saying it couldnt be found..and then suddenly when Trump is
scoring such high poll numbers...it suddenly appears.

Fascinating those questions..when you think about it...

Why in the hell is anyone getting high on Trump as a nominee, anyway?

--
Ask not what the world needs. Ask what makes you come
alive... then go do it. Because what the world needs
is people who have come alive. -- Howard Thurman

On Apr 27, 10:40*pm, Ignoramus14859 ignoramus14...@NOSPAM.
14859.invalid wrote:
On 2011-04-28, Gunner Asch wrote:





On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:10:40 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-27, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:33:35 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-27, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:29:22 -0700, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote:

*MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see
his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was
born in Kenya?

*OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

So we have records of her visit to the US?

You snipped the rest of the text, where it is clarified that she was
in Kenya and Obama was born in US.

Then if she was present when he was born..she would have had to have
come to the States..right? *You doing without *your coffee this
afternoon?

It was a translation mistake.

Then you are saying that the actual mistake was that she said he was
born in Kenya and she was there, and not she was there in Hawaii?

The mistake was in translating what she said as "she was present at
birth".



Oddly enough..she changed her story to him being born in Hawaii..not
that she WASNT there when he was born.

Or was there 2 mistakes?

Hummm???

VBG

So she either lied about being present when he was born..or someone is
lying about him being born in Hawaii.

Simple..no?

Republicans like you give the remaining 10% of them a bad reputation.

The remaining 10%? *Then you are claiming that 90% of the Republicans
dont think he was US born?

Btw..Im a registered Democrat. Just so you should know.

My point exactly.

i

You failed to answer the question. Please do, so I can reply with actual
data and make you look like a fruit loop.

VBG

Gunner- Hide quoted text -

Iggy - why do your waste your time with him?

On Apr 27, 7:13*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:

Fascinating those questions..when you think about it...

Wow, Gunner's brain has a pretty low fascination threshold.

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 16:13:55 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:35:16 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 09:29:10 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-27, rangerssuck wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate

Do you think the liars will apologize now?

It sure took the CIA a long time to fake that thing, didn't it?

Id doubt it was the CIA. NSA maybe..but Im sure he doesnt have any big
fans in any of those organizations. Forgers are easy to find, if you
have lots of money to spend.

Oh, I forgot. He comes from Daileyville. He doesn't need the NSA.


Afterall..he spent $2 million dollars + to prevent it from being shown
in court and so forth.

That and all his other papers (and Michelle's) from college, etc.
Michelle's thesis was titled "Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black
Community." They're both black-obsessed, and I think probably quite
racist. How non-PC of them!

Ever listen to what he says? There's quite a lot of it, and he goes
on for hours, but in the end analysis, nothing was said. It's entirely
rhetoric and fluff. I'm amazed that Ig is still (or ever was) a
Believer.

I thought you didn't have a TV. Do you listen to him on the radio?



One simply has to wonder why he spent so much taxpayers money on hiding
it.

He didn't.

..and why the various government officials of Hawaii have gone on
record saying it couldnt be found...

They didn't. That was a cooked-up story by World Nut Daily and by a radio
talk show crank named Mike Evans, who first claimed he had talked to Gov.
Abercrombie but later had to admit that he didn't.

I posted a link to the actual Hawaii newspaper interview that World Nut
buggered up. Do you need to see it again?

http://www.staradvertiser.com/editor..._endeavor.html

and then suddenly when Trump is
scoring such high poll numbers...it suddenly appears.

It was always there. Two Hawaii officials have testified to that.


Fascinating those questions..when you think about it...

You aren't thinking at all, Larry. You're parroting Gunner, who is pumping
out bull**** at high speed.


Why in the hell is anyone getting high on Trump as a nominee, anyway?

Birthers aren't discriminating.

--
Ed Huntress

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:34:51 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:03:21 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:25:16 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

rangerssuck wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate

"It may have been good politics and good TV, but it was bad for the
American
people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a country."

It certainly distracted a lot of people from his genuine shortcomings,
so
thanks a lot birthers.

So..is it a forgery or is it real?
So lets see an actual Photocopy of the birth certificate. You do know
that the above..is not a photocopy, dontcha?


It is a photocopy, you moron.

What it "isn't", is a Photostat. A process that made negative copies.

Paul K. Dickman

Photostat..ok. So its NOT a photostat of the actual document. Correct?

Odd how its all green and everything. Were things printed on green paper
in 1961?


Once again, you moron.
The green part isn't the part that is copied,
it is the paper it is copied onto.
It is green safety copier paper.

Paul K. Dickman

Id rather like to see the original...it would be far far more
belivable.

Afterall..the Democrat Gov of Hawaii said it couldnt be found.....

So I take it you voted for Obama, given all the frothing you are doing
about the questioning if its real or not.

So hows that Hopey/Changey thingy working out for you?


Gunner

From another newsgroup...


After two and a half years, Obama comes up with a forgery.
Anybody with two eyes who buys this piece of **** as genuine, I
got a country full of trees with hundred dollar bills growing on
every branch I'd like to sell you. Cheap.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ama/8477589/Ba
rack-Obama-hits-back-at-birthers-and-releases-birth-
certificate.html

Look at the type. If this birth certificate was prepared on the
same typewriter, the partial strikes of the "O" and "K" keys
would be consistent throughout the document. They are not. The
capital "O" is misaligned in 6b yet aligned with other letters
through the document. This is an impossibility since the upper
and lower characters are on the same striking key.

Compare blocks 7d, 11 and 16. Same thing. Typewriters may have
been antiquidated pieces of ****, but the striking keys did not
jump all over the place like they do on this supposed long form
document.

Where was this "birth certificate" when the Lt. Governor of
Hawaii was looking for it to certify Obama's eligibility for the
ballot? Why couldn't the state registrar find it then? The Lt.
Governor refused to certify Obama because the birth certificate
did not exist then.

All this time, and Obama couldn't still couldn't hire a good
enough forger to pull it off."

Interesting....very interesting....

Gunner


--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:55:53 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:02:32 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:29:22 -0700, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote:

MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see
his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was
born in Kenya?

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

So we have records of her visit to the US?

My neighbor says she saw the interview on TV of his grandmother saying
that she saw him when he was born. She saw it only once, saying that
it was quickly sequestered. shrug


Then she died.

Fascinating..very fascinating

Gunner

--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:40:18 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-28, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:10:40 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-27, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:33:35 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-27, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:29:22 -0700, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote:

MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see
his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was
born in Kenya?

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

So we have records of her visit to the US?


You snipped the rest of the text, where it is clarified that she was
in Kenya and Obama was born in US.

Then if she was present when he was born..she would have had to have
come to the States..right? You doing without your coffee this
afternoon?

It was a translation mistake.

Then you are saying that the actual mistake was that she said he was
born in Kenya and she was there, and not she was there in Hawaii?

The mistake was in translating what she said as "she was present at
birth".

Then she was correct when she said he was born in Kenya?

Odd that a proud grandmother would make the claim she was present at his
birth...and it was a mistake, eh?



Oddly enough..she changed her story to him being born in Hawaii..not
that she WASNT there when he was born.

Or was there 2 mistakes?

Hummm???

VBG


So she either lied about being present when he was born..or someone is
lying about him being born in Hawaii.

Simple..no?


Republicans like you give the remaining 10% of them a bad reputation.

The remaining 10%? Then you are claiming that 90% of the Republicans
dont think he was US born?

Btw..Im a registered Democrat. Just so you should know.

My point exactly.

i

You failed to answer the question. Please do, so I can reply with actual
data and make you look like a fruit loop.

VBG

Gunner


--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:41:13 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-28, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:45:51 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-27, Tom Del Rosso wrote:
Stormin Mormon wrote:
My sense, is that a lot of right wingers don't like the
socialist agenda, and the reckless spending. The birth issue
was quick and easy way to get him out.

Yeah, but if they had political sense they would have known it was not the
best or quickest way.



If they had a notion that it is better to be honest, rather than to
engage in "quick and dirty ways", then they would not make the
remaining 10% of Republicans look bad.

Are you speaking of the Democrats..who spent $2 million dollars of
taxpayer money to hide his birth cert?

What are you saying?


I am saying that the Republican party has lost all credibility in my
eyes.

They would need to work pretty hard to earn it back.

i

Your opinion is indeed noted.

Ive never had much respect for, or considered the Democrats to have much
credibility...Bill Clinton through Obama..both are liars of the worst
sort, both are of poor charector..and you guys promoted them like
****ing saints.

It will get really really interesting in the near future over the whole
deal.

Please..be an Independant. Id hate for someone to think you were to be
included on the List and terminated in the upcoming Great Cull.

Gunner


--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

Gunner Asch wrote:

Compare blocks 7d, 11 and 16. Same thing. Typewriters may have
been antiquidated pieces of ****, but the striking keys did not
jump all over the place like they do on this supposed long form
document.

That can happen when the ribbon is reused.


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Gunner Asch wrote:
Id rather like to see the original...it would be far far more
belivable.

I wish they'd just allowed a news crew to go into the building and take a
picture of the thing. Fox News would be best because a "hostile press" is
always better.

I wish they'd done it 2.5 years ago.


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Ignoramus14859 wrote:

I am saying that the Republican party has lost all credibility in my
eyes.

It did start in the primary, as did every scandal issue in recent elections.
When we switched to the primary system we not only ensured the picking of
inferior candidates, but allowed for dirtier politics that would look too
partisan if it was done in the general election.

If the primary was still going on, there would still be Democrats doubting
it.


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Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:48:08 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:
My sense, is that a lot of right wingers don't like the
socialist agenda, and the reckless spending. The birth issue
was quick and easy way to get him out.

Yeah, but if they had political sense they would have known it was
not the best or quickest way.


The quickest way is an Oswald..but not the best way.

The best way is to vote him out..but its hardly the quickest way.

Do you have any other options?

Voting him out is fine. Perfect even. I don't need another option.

If some idiot does an Oswald we'll go up in flames.


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snip


Where was this "birth certificate" when the Lt. Governor of
Hawaii was looking for it to certify Obama's eligibility for the
ballot?

In the vault.

Why couldn't the state registrar find it then?

What makes you think he/she looked?

The Lt.
Governor refused to certify Obama because the birth certificate
did not exist then.

Never happened. It's an incredibly twisted tail of falsehoods and
obfuscations by the right-wing press and blogosphere. Chasing it around was
so funny that, at one point, I sprayed ice cream all over my screen. d8-)


All this time, and Obama couldn't still couldn't hire a good
enough forger to pull it off."

Interesting....very interesting....

Only to the mentally disturbed, Gunner. To the rest of us, it's incredibly
silly. What *is* interesting is the insights it provides into the
insanosphere that supplies your "information." You're going to go blind and
senile if you don't straighten yourself out and quit believing that stuff.

--
Ed Huntress

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 01:48:07 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:

Compare blocks 7d, 11 and 16. Same thing. Typewriters may have
been antiquidated pieces of ****, but the striking keys did not
jump all over the place like they do on this supposed long form
document.

That can happen when the ribbon is reused.


Can this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPX33ZNdmlo

VBG

Gunner

--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 01:50:50 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
Id rather like to see the original...it would be far far more
belivable.

I wish they'd just allowed a news crew to go into the building and take a
picture of the thing. Fox News would be best because a "hostile press" is
always better.

I wish they'd done it 2.5 years ago.

And $2,000,000+ ago.....


Gunner

--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 02:01:33 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:48:08 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:
My sense, is that a lot of right wingers don't like the
socialist agenda, and the reckless spending. The birth issue
was quick and easy way to get him out.

Yeah, but if they had political sense they would have known it was
not the best or quickest way.


The quickest way is an Oswald..but not the best way.

The best way is to vote him out..but its hardly the quickest way.

Do you have any other options?

Voting him out is fine. Perfect even. I don't need another option.

If some idiot does an Oswald we'll go up in flames.

Tom...Im afraid we are going up in flames anyways.

Particularly if that birth cert is fraudulant..and it appears to be
so...shrug

Gunner


--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

On 2011-04-28, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 21:40:18 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-28, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:10:40 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-27, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:33:35 -0500, Ignoramus14859
wrote:

On 2011-04-27, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 11:29:22 -0700, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote:

MCRAE: Could I ask her about his actual birthplace? I would like to see
his birthplace when I come to Kenya in December. Was she present when he was
born in Kenya?

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

So we have records of her visit to the US?


You snipped the rest of the text, where it is clarified that she was
in Kenya and Obama was born in US.

Then if she was present when he was born..she would have had to have
come to the States..right? You doing without your coffee this
afternoon?

It was a translation mistake.

Then you are saying that the actual mistake was that she said he was
born in Kenya and she was there, and not she was there in Hawaii?

The mistake was in translating what she said as "she was present at
birth".

Then she was correct when she said he was born in Kenya?

``No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.''

Odd that a proud grandmother would make the claim she was present at his
birth...and it was a mistake, eh?



Oddly enough..she changed her story to him being born in Hawaii..not
that she WASNT there when he was born.

Or was there 2 mistakes?

Hummm???

VBG


So she either lied about being present when he was born..or someone is
lying about him being born in Hawaii.

Simple..no?


Republicans like you give the remaining 10% of them a bad reputation.

The remaining 10%? Then you are claiming that 90% of the Republicans
dont think he was US born?

Btw..Im a registered Democrat. Just so you should know.

My point exactly.

i

You failed to answer the question. Please do, so I can reply with actual
data and make you look like a fruit loop.

VBG

Gunner

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 03:50:02 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 02:01:33 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:48:08 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:
My sense, is that a lot of right wingers don't like the
socialist agenda, and the reckless spending. The birth issue
was quick and easy way to get him out.

Yeah, but if they had political sense they would have known it was
not the best or quickest way.


The quickest way is an Oswald..but not the best way.

The best way is to vote him out..but its hardly the quickest way.

Do you have any other options?

Voting him out is fine. Perfect even. I don't need another option.

If some idiot does an Oswald we'll go up in flames.

Tom...Im afraid we are going up in flames anyways.

Particularly if that birth cert is fraudulant..and it appears to be
so...shrug

Gunner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOfYwYyS_c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zsQ-...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCjAmEgjkUc

Fascinating indeed......


--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " Jonah Goldberg (modified)

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:39:05 -0400, "Ed Huntress"
wrote:


"Ignoramus14859" wrote in message
m...
On 2011-04-27, Ed Huntress wrote:

"." wrote in message
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In , Ignoramus14859
wrote:
On 2011-04-27, rangerssuck wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate

Do you think the liars will apologize now?

His grandmother claims she was present at his birth in Kenya.

No she didn't. That was the edited translation by Jerome Corsi, the
documented liar and sensationalist author.

What is really disgusting, is Republicans repeating these lies and
trying to nonchalantly pass them up as established facts.

It's a revival, actually. That's what the Yellow Press was all about for a
century or more. Thomas Jefferson even complained about it.

For a long while, from the middle of the last century until the last two
decades, when the press became "professionalized" and a lot more
responsible, it became hard to pull off those games. Everybody read or
watched the same things, so when the liars would get caught, everyone would
know about it. Scooping the stories about such things became a central
function of the press.

Now we have at least 54 alternate realities on the Web, alone, so your feet
never have to touch the ground at all.


http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2...l_hatchet.html

Is that
the liar you're talking about?

More like Trump claiming he had "information" that Obama's original
record was "lost," or that he has "investigators" in Hawaii. No one
can find any evidence they exist, nor anyone they have talked to in
Hawaii. They must be awfully small...

I certainly would not trust my wallet to Trump. Bankruptcies seem to
follow him around like flies follow certain things.

i

Not everyone has a taste for Trump. I enjoyed his antics when he was
divorcing his wives and taking up with new ones; Marla Maples was
particularly entertaining.

But he's known out here as a con man and self-promoting egomaniac, so he's
best enjoyed from a distance. This Birther escapade was probably the lowest
thing he's done.


Like the three toed dragon press.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Puck112188c.jpg

Never had me going on that subject, who cares. He's the president.
There is no way "they" are going to redo everything and get a
different one.

I did notice that he's younger than I am ! Wonder if working out in
all that sun light is the cause of so few gray hairs, I have none on
my head. I also noticed guys my age up here are almost totally gray.

As for trump, seems the same with distance, but then again there is
Vegas... Like bankruptcy and not long after trying to out do Wynn.


SW

On Apr 28, 7:48*am, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 03:50:02 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:



On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 02:01:33 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

Gunner Asch wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:48:08 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:
My sense, is that a lot of right wingers don't like the
socialist agenda, and the reckless spending. The birth issue
was quick and easy way to get him out.

Yeah, but if they had political sense they would have known it was
not the best or quickest way.

The quickest way is an Oswald..but not the best way.

The best way is to vote him out..but its hardly the quickest way.

Do you have any other options?

Voting him out is fine. *Perfect even. *I don't need another option..

If some idiot does an Oswald we'll go up in flames.

Tom...Im afraid we are going up in flames anyways.

Particularly if that birth cert is fraudulant..and it appears to be
so...shrug

Gunner

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eOfYwYyS_c

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zsQ-...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCjAmEgjkUc

Fascinating indeed......

--
"If I say two plus two is four and a Democrat says two plus two is eight,
it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
six. " *Jonah Goldberg (modified)

Interesting analysis of the document in this discussion

http://www.texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=44575

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:34:51 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:03:21 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:25:16 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

rangerssuck wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate

"It may have been good politics and good TV, but it was bad for the
American
people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a
country."

It certainly distracted a lot of people from his genuine
shortcomings,
so
thanks a lot birthers.

So..is it a forgery or is it real?
So lets see an actual Photocopy of the birth certificate. You do
know
that the above..is not a photocopy, dontcha?


It is a photocopy, you moron.

What it "isn't", is a Photostat. A process that made negative copies.

Paul K. Dickman

Photostat..ok. So its NOT a photostat of the actual document. Correct?

Odd how its all green and everything. Were things printed on green
paper
in 1961?


Once again, you moron.
The green part isn't the part that is copied,
it is the paper it is copied onto.
It is green safety copier paper.

Paul K. Dickman

Id rather like to see the original...it would be far far more
belivable.

Afterall..the Democrat Gov of Hawaii said it couldnt be found.....

So I take it you voted for Obama, given all the frothing you are doing
about the questioning if its real or not.

So hows that Hopey/Changey thingy working out for you?


Gunner

From another newsgroup...


After two and a half years, Obama comes up with a forgery.
Anybody with two eyes who buys this piece of **** as genuine, I
got a country full of trees with hundred dollar bills growing on
every branch I'd like to sell you. Cheap.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ama/8477589/Ba
rack-Obama-hits-back-at-birthers-and-releases-birth-
certificate.html

Look at the type. If this birth certificate was prepared on the
same typewriter, the partial strikes of the "O" and "K" keys
would be consistent throughout the document. They are not. The
capital "O" is misaligned in 6b yet aligned with other letters
through the document. This is an impossibility since the upper
and lower characters are on the same striking key.

Compare blocks 7d, 11 and 16. Same thing. Typewriters may have
been antiquidated pieces of ****, but the striking keys did not
jump all over the place like they do on this supposed long form
document.

Where was this "birth certificate" when the Lt. Governor of
Hawaii was looking for it to certify Obama's eligibility for the
ballot? Why couldn't the state registrar find it then? The Lt.
Governor refused to certify Obama because the birth certificate
did not exist then.

All this time, and Obama couldn't still couldn't hire a good
enough forger to pull it off."

Interesting....very interesting....

Gunner



Hey, moron.
Take a look at blocks 7b, 12b and 16 of the birth certificate you claim is
what they are supposed to look like.

This is what they are supposed to look like...G

http://www.wnd.com/images/090728birthcert.gif

That's what I got.


Manual typewriters do that all the time.

But of course you know it must be a fake, because you know the truth.

He is the love child of Malcolm X and Xena: warrior princess, and he was
actually born in an alien spacecraft hovering over a Potemkin village in the
Urals.


Paul K. Dickman

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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:34:51 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:03:21 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:25:16 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

rangerssuck wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate

"It may have been good politics and good TV, but it was bad for the
American
people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a
country."

It certainly distracted a lot of people from his genuine
shortcomings,
so
thanks a lot birthers.

So..is it a forgery or is it real?
So lets see an actual Photocopy of the birth certificate. You do
know
that the above..is not a photocopy, dontcha?


It is a photocopy, you moron.

What it "isn't", is a Photostat. A process that made negative copies.

Paul K. Dickman

Photostat..ok. So its NOT a photostat of the actual document.
Correct?

Odd how its all green and everything. Were things printed on green
paper
in 1961?


Once again, you moron.
The green part isn't the part that is copied,
it is the paper it is copied onto.
It is green safety copier paper.

Paul K. Dickman

Id rather like to see the original...it would be far far more
belivable.

Afterall..the Democrat Gov of Hawaii said it couldnt be found.....

So I take it you voted for Obama, given all the frothing you are doing
about the questioning if its real or not.

So hows that Hopey/Changey thingy working out for you?


Gunner

From another newsgroup...


After two and a half years, Obama comes up with a forgery.
Anybody with two eyes who buys this piece of **** as genuine, I
got a country full of trees with hundred dollar bills growing on
every branch I'd like to sell you. Cheap.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ama/8477589/Ba
rack-Obama-hits-back-at-birthers-and-releases-birth-
certificate.html

Look at the type. If this birth certificate was prepared on the
same typewriter, the partial strikes of the "O" and "K" keys
would be consistent throughout the document. They are not. The
capital "O" is misaligned in 6b yet aligned with other letters
through the document. This is an impossibility since the upper
and lower characters are on the same striking key.

Compare blocks 7d, 11 and 16. Same thing. Typewriters may have
been antiquidated pieces of ****, but the striking keys did not
jump all over the place like they do on this supposed long form
document.

Where was this "birth certificate" when the Lt. Governor of
Hawaii was looking for it to certify Obama's eligibility for the
ballot? Why couldn't the state registrar find it then? The Lt.
Governor refused to certify Obama because the birth certificate
did not exist then.

All this time, and Obama couldn't still couldn't hire a good
enough forger to pull it off."

Interesting....very interesting....

Gunner



Hey, moron.
Take a look at blocks 7b, 12b and 16 of the birth certificate you claim is
what they are supposed to look like.

This is what they are supposed to look like...G

http://www.wnd.com/images/090728birthcert.gif

That's what I got.


Manual typewriters do that all the time.

But of course you know it must be a fake, because you know the truth.

He is the love child of Malcolm X and Xena: warrior princess, and he was
actually born in an alien spacecraft hovering over a Potemkin village in
the Urals.


Paul K. Dickman

You realize that you're insulting the descendent of the famous Ojibwe, Chief
Running Mouth?

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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:19:31 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 18:34:51 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
om...
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 14:03:21 -0500, "Paul K. Dickman"
wrote:


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 12:25:16 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:

rangerssuck wrote:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/...th-certificate

"It may have been good politics and good TV, but it was bad for the
American
people and distracting from the many challenges we face as a
country."

It certainly distracted a lot of people from his genuine
shortcomings,
so
thanks a lot birthers.

So..is it a forgery or is it real?
So lets see an actual Photocopy of the birth certificate. You do
know
that the above..is not a photocopy, dontcha?


It is a photocopy, you moron.

What it "isn't", is a Photostat. A process that made negative copies.

Paul K. Dickman

Photostat..ok. So its NOT a photostat of the actual document.
Correct?

Odd how its all green and everything. Were things printed on green
paper
in 1961?


Once again, you moron.
The green part isn't the part that is copied,
it is the paper it is copied onto.
It is green safety copier paper.

Paul K. Dickman

Id rather like to see the original...it would be far far more
belivable.

Afterall..the Democrat Gov of Hawaii said it couldnt be found.....

So I take it you voted for Obama, given all the frothing you are doing
about the questioning if its real or not.

So hows that Hopey/Changey thingy working out for you?


Gunner

From another newsgroup...


After two and a half years, Obama comes up with a forgery.
Anybody with two eyes who buys this piece of **** as genuine, I
got a country full of trees with hundred dollar bills growing on
every branch I'd like to sell you. Cheap.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...ama/8477589/Ba
rack-Obama-hits-back-at-birthers-and-releases-birth-
certificate.html

Look at the type. If this birth certificate was prepared on the
same typewriter, the partial strikes of the "O" and "K" keys
would be consistent throughout the document. They are not. The
capital "O" is misaligned in 6b yet aligned with other letters
through the document. This is an impossibility since the upper
and lower characters are on the same striking key.

Compare blocks 7d, 11 and 16. Same thing. Typewriters may have
been antiquidated pieces of ****, but the striking keys did not
jump all over the place like they do on this supposed long form
document.

Where was this "birth certificate" when the Lt. Governor of
Hawaii was looking for it to certify Obama's eligibility for the
ballot? Why couldn't the state registrar find it then? The Lt.
Governor refused to certify Obama because the birth certificate
did not exist then.

All this time, and Obama couldn't still couldn't hire a good
enough forger to pull it off."

Interesting....very interesting....

Gunner



Hey, moron.
Take a look at blocks 7b, 12b and 16 of the birth certificate you claim
is what they are supposed to look like.

This is what they are supposed to look like...G

http://www.wnd.com/images/090728birthcert.gif

That's what I got.


Manual typewriters do that all the time.


People occasionally make typos....

But in the 60's, White-Out hadn't yet been invented; so they had to re-type
the entire document...

But of course you know it must be a fake, because you know the truth.

He is the love child of Malcolm X and Xena: warrior princess, and he was
actually born in an alien spacecraft hovering over a Potemkin village in
the Urals.


Paul K. Dickman

You realize that you're insulting the descendent of the famous Ojibwe,
Chief Running Mouth?

On 4/27/2011 8:06 PM, Ned Simmons wrote:
On Wed, 27 Apr 2011 17:39:23 -0700, Hawke
wrote:


According to Laurence O'Donnald of MSNBC, NBC has decided to renew the
show "The Apprentice" for another year. The Donald will clearly be doing
the show. So that means the run for the presidency is off. He'd rather
be on a TV show than the president. But then we all knew that all along,
didn't we?

My wife and I mulled over Trump's dilemma last night. The sensible
thing would be to continue "The Apprentice" and use it to pick his
cabinet and Supreme Court appointees. Who says you can't have it all?



Trump could pick Gary Busey for his Secretary of State!

Hawke

On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 07:22:40 -0500, Ignoramus9529
wrote:

OGOMBE: Yes. She says, yes, she was, she was present when Obama was born.

So we have records of her visit to the US?


You snipped the rest of the text, where it is clarified that she was
in Kenya and Obama was born in US.

Then if she was present when he was born..she would have had to have
come to the States..right? You doing without your coffee this
afternoon?

It was a translation mistake.

Then you are saying that the actual mistake was that she said he was
born in Kenya and she was there, and not she was there in Hawaii?

The mistake was in translating what she said as "she was present at
birth".

Then she was correct when she said he was born in Kenya?

``No, Obama was not born in Mombasa. He was born in America.''


Then she wasnt present when he was born. Or she was in America at the
time.

Think grandmothers would like about their grandchildren like that?

Gunner

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it's not a partial victory for me when we agree that two plus two is
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