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Tire Bead Goop
Is the purpose of the goop they slather around the bead of a tubeless
tire to lubricate during installation, to help seal the tire rim interface, or both? I have a freebee dolly on which one of the tire has a very very slow leak at the interface. What is this goop? The local auto parts store was of no help. Thanks Chuck P. |
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"Pilgrim" wrote in message ... Is the purpose of the goop they slather around the bead of a tubeless tire to lubricate during installation, to help seal the tire rim interface, or both? I have a freebee dolly on which one of the tire has a very very slow leak at the interface. What is this goop? The local auto parts store was of no help. Thanks Chuck P. You can buy it from a distributor that sells tools and supplies to tire shops. It's like a thick soap, I think the answer is both, although it certainly does not stop all leaks. |
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Pilgrim wrote:
Is the purpose of the goop they slather around the bead of a tubeless tire to lubricate during installation, to help seal the tire rim interface, or both? I have a freebee dolly on which one of the tire has a very very slow leak at the interface. What is this goop? The local auto parts store was of no help. Thanks Chuck P. Which goop? There are a couple. One is strictly a lube, it's basically water with some surfactant and water soluble oil. Then you have actual tire bead sealant. It is basically a thin rubber cement with carbon black as a thickening agent. The first is used to slip the tire over the rim easier and reduce the possibility of bead damage. The second is used on pitted aluminum or steel rims to seal the pits and retain air. If you only have a small tire then you could simply use a small amount of rubber cement around the bead. It will do the same thing as the tire sealant. Advance, Parts Plus, NAPA all carry it. -- Steve W. |
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Thanks to all who replied.
Chuck P. |
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:59:18 -0800, Pilgrim
wrote: Is the purpose of the goop they slather around the bead of a tubeless tire to lubricate during installation, to help seal the tire rim interface, or both? I have a freebee dolly on which one of the tire has a very very slow leak at the interface. What is this goop? The local auto parts store was of no help. Generally, it's just a soapy water mix for lubing the tire onto the rim. Once it evaporates, it's gone. There is no extra sealing capability. To seal from the inside, install some of the green slime. http://tinyurl.com/4nz5zz2 -- Remember, in an emergency, dial 1911. |
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On Feb 14, 9:30*am, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:59:18 -0800, Pilgrim wrote: Is the purpose of the goop they slather around the bead of a tubeless tire to lubricate during installation, to help seal the tire rim interface, or both? I have a freebee dolly on which one of the tire has a very very slow leak at the interface. What is this goop? The local auto parts store was of no help. Generally, it's just a soapy water mix for lubing the tire onto the rim. Once it evaporates, it's gone. There is no extra sealing capability. To seal from the inside, install some of the green slime.http://tinyurl.com/4nz5zz2 -- Remember, in an emergency, dial 1911. Second on the Slime. I've got a tubeless tire on one dolly that does exactly that, a short shot of the slime fixed it up. I've only ever seen them use a swab with some tire soap on it when mounting my tires, comes in a bucket. Only for seating beads and keeping the rubber from tearing when stretching it over the rims. Lubricant only, no sealing properties. Now if you've got a tube in your tire, the slime may just make a mess, you'd have to patch the tube. Stan |
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:59:18 -0800, Pilgrim
wrote: Is the purpose of the goop they slather around the bead of a tubeless tire to lubricate during installation, to help seal the tire rim interface, or both? I have a freebee dolly on which one of the tire has a very very slow leak at the interface. What is this goop? The local auto parts store was of no help. Thanks Chuck P. Murphy's soap. Lubricant only; no sealing properties. For a one time deal, mix some stout dish washing soap solution. DO NOT use diesel or any petroleum product. |
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Gerald Miller wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:55:08 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 14, 9:30 am, Larry wrote: On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:59:18 -0800, wrote: Is the purpose of the goop they slather around the bead of a tubeless tire to lubricate during installation, to help seal the tire rim interface, or both? I have a freebee dolly on which one of the tire has a very very slow leak at the interface. What is this goop? The local auto parts store was of no help. Generally, it's just a soapy water mix for lubing the tire onto the rim. Once it evaporates, it's gone. There is no extra sealing capability. To seal from the inside, install some of the green slime.http://tinyurl.com/4nz5zz2 -- Remember, in an emergency, dial 1911. Second on the Slime. I've got a tubeless tire on one dolly that does exactly that, a short shot of the slime fixed it up. I've only ever seen them use a swab with some tire soap on it when mounting my tires, comes in a bucket. Only for seating beads and keeping the rubber from tearing when stretching it over the rims. Lubricant only, no sealing properties. Now if you've got a tube in your tire, the slime may just make a mess, you'd have to patch the tube. Stan The thing I can't understand, is why manufacturers insist on mounting tubeless tires on everything such as wheelbarrows, snowblowers and other low speed equipment. I can understand that tubless tires run cooler at high speed but on a wheelbarrow? snowblower? After ten years, the tires are checked and the rims are rusted, so the owner gets to install the tube that should have been there in the first place. The lawn tractor with low pressure tires does a sharp turn and catches some grass stems or twigs in the bead and developes a slow leak (I, personaly, traced this down and fixed it - the lady was using a bicycle pump every time she went to cut the grass). What is there for not installing tube type tires on low speed equipment? Gerry :-)} London, Canada A wheelbarrow tire is one of the hardest tires to seal the bead on after it has been broken. Filling the tire with foam is one solution. John |
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Gerald Miller wrote:
.... What is there for not installing tube type tires on low speed equipment? Cost. Of the tube itself & installing it. Bob |
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Gerald Miller wrote:
What is there for not installing tube type tires on low speed equipment? A tube costs $2.00. Cheers! Rich |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:39:19 -0500, John
wrote: Gerald Miller wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:55:08 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 14, 9:30 am, Larry wrote: On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:59:18 -0800, wrote: Is the purpose of the goop they slather around the bead of a tubeless tire to lubricate during installation, to help seal the tire rim interface, or both? I have a freebee dolly on which one of the tire has a very very slow leak at the interface. What is this goop? The local auto parts store was of no help. Generally, it's just a soapy water mix for lubing the tire onto the rim. Once it evaporates, it's gone. There is no extra sealing capability. To seal from the inside, install some of the green slime.http://tinyurl.com/4nz5zz2 -- Remember, in an emergency, dial 1911. Second on the Slime. I've got a tubeless tire on one dolly that does exactly that, a short shot of the slime fixed it up. I've only ever seen them use a swab with some tire soap on it when mounting my tires, comes in a bucket. Only for seating beads and keeping the rubber from tearing when stretching it over the rims. Lubricant only, no sealing properties. Now if you've got a tube in your tire, the slime may just make a mess, you'd have to patch the tube. Stan The thing I can't understand, is why manufacturers insist on mounting tubeless tires on everything such as wheelbarrows, snowblowers and other low speed equipment. I can understand that tubless tires run cooler at high speed but on a wheelbarrow? snowblower? After ten years, the tires are checked and the rims are rusted, so the owner gets to install the tube that should have been there in the first place. The lawn tractor with low pressure tires does a sharp turn and catches some grass stems or twigs in the bead and developes a slow leak (I, personaly, traced this down and fixed it - the lady was using a bicycle pump every time she went to cut the grass). What is there for not installing tube type tires on low speed equipment? Gerry :-)} London, Canada A wheelbarrow tire is one of the hardest tires to seal the bead on after it has been broken. Filling the tire with foam is one solution. John Just put a tube in and be done with it until the tire rots off in another 20 years. Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:47:50 -0500, Bob Engelhardt
wrote: Gerald Miller wrote: ... What is there for not installing tube type tires on low speed equipment? Cost. Of the tube itself & installing it. Bob About what I figured. Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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On Feb 13, 9:59*pm, Pilgrim wrote:
Is the purpose of the goop they slather around the bead of a tubeless tire to lubricate during installation, to help seal the tire rim interface, or both? I have a freebee dolly on which one of the tire has a very very slow leak at the interface. What is this goop? The local auto parts store was of no help. Thanks Chuck P. My understanding is the goop is vegetable oil. It acts as a lubricant which helps to get the bead seated on the rim. Recently I came back to my truck and found it blocked in by a tire service truck. He was trying to get a truck tire seated on the rim. He had a little air tank with a one inch ball valve going to a bit of one inch pipe. The free end of the pipe was somewhat flattened. He would lubricate the bead and then slip the pipe between the bead and the rim. Hit the ball valve and the tire would almost seat. The pipe got pushed out of the way as the tire started to seat. The rim had a few rough spots and would not get a good seal. After a few attempts that failed, he got a can of starter fluid and sprayed some inside the tire. Then tossed a match. There was a poof and the bead was seated. Dan |
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On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:19:57 -0500, Gerald Miller
wrote: The thing I can't understand, is why manufacturers insist on mounting tubeless tires on everything such as wheelbarrows, snowblowers and other low speed equipment. I can understand that tubless tires run cooler at high speed but on a wheelbarrow? snowblower? After ten years, the tires are checked and the rims are rusted, so the owner gets to install the tube that should have been there in the first place. The lawn tractor with low pressure tires does a sharp turn and catches some grass stems or twigs in the bead and developes a slow leak (I, personaly, traced this down and fixed it - the lady was using a bicycle pump every time she went to cut the grass). What is there for not installing tube type tires on low speed equipment? Gerry :-)} London, Canada A tubeless tire can be mounted and inflated by a robot. Not so for stuffing a tube, pulling the valve stem and inflating. |
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:56:02 -0800, Rich Grise
wrote: wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:19:57 -0500, Gerald Miller The thing I can't understand, is why manufacturers insist on mounting tubeless tires on everything such as wheelbarrows, snowblowers and other low speed equipment. I can understand that tubless tires run cooler at high speed but on a wheelbarrow? snowblower? After ten years, the tires are checked and the rims are rusted, so the owner gets to install the tube that should have been there in the first place. The lawn tractor with low pressure tires does a sharp turn and catches some grass stems or twigs in the bead and developes a slow leak (I, personaly, traced this down and fixed it - the lady was using a bicycle pump every time she went to cut the grass). What is there for not installing tube type tires on low speed equipment? A tubeless tire can be mounted and inflated by a robot. Not so for stuffing a tube, pulling the valve stem and inflating. Speaking of stuffing a tube, where do you get unscented talcum powder? Thanks, Rich Many of the medicated powders are unscented; maybe with a little boric acid and zinc oxide. |
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 17:56:02 -0800, Rich Grise
wrote: wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:19:57 -0500, Gerald Miller The thing I can't understand, is why manufacturers insist on mounting tubeless tires on everything such as wheelbarrows, snowblowers and other low speed equipment. I can understand that tubless tires run cooler at high speed but on a wheelbarrow? snowblower? After ten years, the tires are checked and the rims are rusted, so the owner gets to install the tube that should have been there in the first place. The lawn tractor with low pressure tires does a sharp turn and catches some grass stems or twigs in the bead and developes a slow leak (I, personaly, traced this down and fixed it - the lady was using a bicycle pump every time she went to cut the grass). What is there for not installing tube type tires on low speed equipment? A tubeless tire can be mounted and inflated by a robot. Not so for stuffing a tube, pulling the valve stem and inflating. Speaking of stuffing a tube, where do you get unscented talcum powder? I'd like to find some, too. I'd been using baby-smelling stuff for dusting my face prior to electric shaving, but have tried plain cornstarch lately. Hmm, one recipe is 1 cup rice flour + 1/2 cup cornstarch + essential oils. Leave out the oils and you have your unscented. Find the rest in the bulk food section of major markets. -- The ultimate result of shielding men from the effects of folly is to fill the world with fools. --Herbert Spencer |
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Gerald Miller wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:39:19 -0500, John wrote: Gerald Miller wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:55:08 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 14, 9:30 am, Larry wrote: On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:59:18 -0800, wrote: Is the purpose of the goop they slather around the bead of a tubeless tire to lubricate during installation, to help seal the tire rim interface, or both? I have a freebee dolly on which one of the tire has a very very slow leak at the interface. What is this goop? The local auto parts store was of no help. Generally, it's just a soapy water mix for lubing the tire onto the rim. Once it evaporates, it's gone. There is no extra sealing capability. To seal from the inside, install some of the green slime.http://tinyurl.com/4nz5zz2 -- Remember, in an emergency, dial 1911. Second on the Slime. I've got a tubeless tire on one dolly that does exactly that, a short shot of the slime fixed it up. I've only ever seen them use a swab with some tire soap on it when mounting my tires, comes in a bucket. Only for seating beads and keeping the rubber from tearing when stretching it over the rims. Lubricant only, no sealing properties. Now if you've got a tube in your tire, the slime may just make a mess, you'd have to patch the tube. Stan The thing I can't understand, is why manufacturers insist on mounting tubeless tires on everything such as wheelbarrows, snowblowers and other low speed equipment. I can understand that tubless tires run cooler at high speed but on a wheelbarrow? snowblower? After ten years, the tires are checked and the rims are rusted, so the owner gets to install the tube that should have been there in the first place. The lawn tractor with low pressure tires does a sharp turn and catches some grass stems or twigs in the bead and developes a slow leak (I, personaly, traced this down and fixed it - the lady was using a bicycle pump every time she went to cut the grass). What is there for not installing tube type tires on low speed equipment? Gerry :-)} London, Canada A wheelbarrow tire is one of the hardest tires to seal the bead on after it has been broken. Filling the tire with foam is one solution. John Just put a tube in and be done with it until the tire rots off in another 20 years. Not around here. Cactus needles love to puncture any type of inflatable tire. :( -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a band-aid on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:35:23 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Gerald Miller wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 22:39:19 -0500, John wrote: Gerald Miller wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 14:55:08 -0800 (PST), wrote: On Feb 14, 9:30 am, Larry wrote: On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 18:59:18 -0800, wrote: Is the purpose of the goop they slather around the bead of a tubeless tire to lubricate during installation, to help seal the tire rim interface, or both? I have a freebee dolly on which one of the tire has a very very slow leak at the interface. What is this goop? The local auto parts store was of no help. Generally, it's just a soapy water mix for lubing the tire onto the rim. Once it evaporates, it's gone. There is no extra sealing capability. To seal from the inside, install some of the green slime.http://tinyurl.com/4nz5zz2 -- Remember, in an emergency, dial 1911. Second on the Slime. I've got a tubeless tire on one dolly that does exactly that, a short shot of the slime fixed it up. I've only ever seen them use a swab with some tire soap on it when mounting my tires, comes in a bucket. Only for seating beads and keeping the rubber from tearing when stretching it over the rims. Lubricant only, no sealing properties. Now if you've got a tube in your tire, the slime may just make a mess, you'd have to patch the tube. Stan The thing I can't understand, is why manufacturers insist on mounting tubeless tires on everything such as wheelbarrows, snowblowers and other low speed equipment. I can understand that tubless tires run cooler at high speed but on a wheelbarrow? snowblower? After ten years, the tires are checked and the rims are rusted, so the owner gets to install the tube that should have been there in the first place. The lawn tractor with low pressure tires does a sharp turn and catches some grass stems or twigs in the bead and developes a slow leak (I, personaly, traced this down and fixed it - the lady was using a bicycle pump every time she went to cut the grass). What is there for not installing tube type tires on low speed equipment? Gerry :-)} London, Canada A wheelbarrow tire is one of the hardest tires to seal the bead on after it has been broken. Filling the tire with foam is one solution. John Just put a tube in and be done with it until the tire rots off in another 20 years. Not around here. Cactus needles love to puncture any type of inflatable tire. :( There are two completely different kinds of "tire bead goop". One is the soap or glycerine lube (RuGlyde), which has minimal sealing qualities - the other is the black latex "bead sealer" that does a reasonable job of sealing a bead if it is clean and not too badly corroded. As for tubeless low speed tires, it all comes down to PRICE. The majority of us North Americans are notoriously CHEEP critters, and the manufacturers won;t spend a penny more than necessary to get their product out the door, and, hopefully, through warranty. Re-seating a wheelbarrow tire is simple. Spray some butane into the tire and throw a match at it. It'll pop right on, 9.9 times out of 10. But putting in a tube is a much better solution. A "slimed" or self sealing tube is almost a requirement in misquite or cactus country, and a kevlar liner works wonders too. Wreaks havoc with balance, so not so good on high speed tires. |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:35:23 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote: Gerald Miller wrote: A wheelbarrow tire is one of the hardest tires to seal the bead on after it has been broken. Filling the tire with foam is one solution. John Just put a tube in and be done with it until the tire rots off in another 20 years. Not around here. Cactus needles love to puncture any type of inflatable tire. :( To my way of thinking, what passes for grass in your neck of the woods, is, in reality, a low growing mix of palm fronds and cacti. Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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Gerald Miller wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 13:35:23 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: Gerald Miller wrote: Just put a tube in and be done with it until the tire rots off in another 20 years. Not around here. Cactus needles love to puncture any type of inflatable tire. :( To my way of thinking, what passes for grass in your neck of the woods, is, in reality, a low growing mix of palm fronds and cacti. Gerry :-)} A half hour south of here it's short grass and cacti. The only palm fronds are from trees that were planted. I lived in lake county for about 10 years, and had the fun of keeping them from growing im my driveway. Palm trees aren't native to this part of the state. Oaks and pine trees along with real dirt and grass are common, though. Ask Karl. He stopped by for a short visit on his way south of here. -- You can't fix stupid. You can't even put a band-aid on it, because it's Teflon coated. |
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On 2011-02-18, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
[ ... ] Those needles would puncture large truck tires as well. Some were just shy of 2" long, and they could go through the tread or the sidewalls. And one style of cactus which was around where I grew up I called "watch-out cactus" because the needles had a dry husk on them, and when you pulled a needle out of self, the husk stayed around nearly forever in your skin. The husk could provide a continuing path of air through the walls of the tire and tube. If anyone really knows the name of that cactus (insanely branching and re-branching bits about the diameter of a pencil or a bit fatter), I would love to have identification. This was in South Texas, sort of between San Antonio and Laredo, FWIW. Enjoy, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On 19 Feb 2011 01:49:54 GMT, "DoN. Nichols"
wrote: On 2011-02-18, Michael A. Terrell wrote: [ ... ] Those needles would puncture large truck tires as well. Some were just shy of 2" long, and they could go through the tread or the sidewalls. And one style of cactus which was around where I grew up I called "watch-out cactus" because the needles had a dry husk on them, and when you pulled a needle out of self, the husk stayed around nearly forever in your skin. The husk could provide a continuing path of air through the walls of the tire and tube. If anyone really knows the name of that cactus (insanely branching and re-branching bits about the diameter of a pencil or a bit fatter), I would love to have identification. This was in South Texas, sort of between San Antonio and Laredo, FWIW. Enjoy, DoN. See if you recognize it here. http://thehibbitts.net/Cactus/TXCact...Accounts4.html |
Tire Bead Goop / cactus
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:31:48 -0600, aasberry wrote:
On 19 Feb 2011 01:49:54 GMT, "DoN. Nichols" ... wrote: On 2011-02-18, Michael A. Terrell wrote: .... Those needles would puncture large truck tires as well. Some were just shy of 2" long, and they could go through the tread or the sidewalls. And one style of cactus which was around where I grew up I called "watch-out cactus" because the needles had a dry husk on them, and when you pulled a needle out of self, the husk stayed around nearly forever in your skin. The husk could provide a continuing path of air through the walls of the tire and tube. If anyone really knows the name of that cactus (insanely branching and re-branching bits about the diameter of a pencil or a bit fatter), I would love to have identification. This was in South Texas, sort of between San Antonio and Laredo, FWIW. .... See if you recognize it here. http://thehibbitts.net/Cactus/TXCact...Accounts4.html DoN, among those links that I looked at, the bottom 2 pictures on http://thehibbitts.net/Cactus/TXCactus/C.hesteri.html appear to have lots of thin branching parts. However, the range map seems to show only a small patch near Sanderson or Marathon (north of Big Bend) so there may be better matches for what you remember. Eg, range of Pencil Cactus seems to include Laredo: http://thehibbitts.net/Cactus/TXCactus/E.poselgeri.html (but it doesn't seem to do much branching). -- jiw |
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On 2011-02-19, wrote:
On 19 Feb 2011 01:49:54 GMT, "DoN. Nichols" wrote: [ ... ] And one style of cactus which was around where I grew up I called "watch-out cactus" because the needles had a dry husk on them, and when you pulled a needle out of self, the husk stayed around nearly forever in your skin. The husk could provide a continuing path of air through the walls of the tire and tube. If anyone really knows the name of that cactus (insanely branching and re-branching bits about the diameter of a pencil or a bit fatter), I would love to have identification. This was in South Texas, sort of between San Antonio and Laredo, FWIW. [ ... ] See if you recognize it here. http://thehibbitts.net/Cactus/TXCact...Accounts4.html Hmm -- a wonderful resource, but I've checked most of them now with little luck. The closest is: Opuntia (Cylindropuntia) imbricata (Tree Cholla) but the stems are too fat, and it is shown only well North of where I saw these. Most of the cacti on the left-hand side of the page were low balls and pincushions. This grew at least five feet high. Most of what gets near that high is the Prickley pear varieties. The interesting thing is that none of the photos which I noticed were taken in LaSalle County, which is where these were. An un-documented species, perhaps? (Maybe he has just not visited LaSalle County yet. :-) Thanks much, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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DoN. Nichols wrote:
On 2011-02-18, Michael A. Terrell wrote: [ ... ] Those needles would puncture large truck tires as well. Some were just shy of 2" long, and they could go through the tread or the sidewalls. And one style of cactus which was around where I grew up I called "watch-out cactus" because the needles had a dry husk on them, and when you pulled a needle out of self, the husk stayed around nearly forever in your skin. The husk could provide a continuing path of air through the walls of the tire and tube. If anyone really knows the name of that cactus (insanely branching and re-branching bits about the diameter of a pencil or a bit fatter), I would love to have identification. This was in South Texas, sort of between San Antonio and Laredo, FWIW. Caltrop cactus? ;-) Cheers! Rich |
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On Sat, 19 Feb 2011 01:02:35 -0800, Rich Grise
wrote: DoN. Nichols wrote: On 2011-02-18, Michael A. Terrell wrote: [ ... ] Those needles would puncture large truck tires as well. Some were just shy of 2" long, and they could go through the tread or the sidewalls. And one style of cactus which was around where I grew up I called "watch-out cactus" because the needles had a dry husk on them, and when you pulled a needle out of self, the husk stayed around nearly forever in your skin. The husk could provide a continuing path of air through the walls of the tire and tube. If anyone really knows the name of that cactus (insanely branching and re-branching bits about the diameter of a pencil or a bit fatter), I would love to have identification. This was in South Texas, sort of between San Antonio and Laredo, FWIW. Caltrop cactus? ;-) I believe those are only found in LEO county, California. -- Happiness comes of the capacity to feel deeply, to enjoy simply, to think freely, to risk life, to be needed. -- Storm Jameson |
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On 2011-02-19, James Waldby wrote:
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 21:31:48 -0600, aasberry wrote: On 19 Feb 2011 01:49:54 GMT, "DoN. Nichols" ... wrote: [ ... ] And one style of cactus which was around where I grew up I called "watch-out cactus" because the needles had a dry husk on them, and when you pulled a needle out of self, the husk stayed around nearly forever in your skin. The husk could provide a continuing path of air through the walls of the tire and tube. If anyone really knows the name of that cactus (insanely branching and re-branching bits about the diameter of a pencil or a bit fatter), I would love to have identification. This was in South Texas, sort of between San Antonio and Laredo, FWIW. ... See if you recognize it here. http://thehibbitts.net/Cactus/TXCact...Accounts4.html DoN, among those links that I looked at, the bottom 2 pictures on http://thehibbitts.net/Cactus/TXCactus/C.hesteri.html appear to have lots of thin branching parts. Way too low. Think at least shoulder height, where you could accidentally brush against it if you were not observant. :-) It would go about four or five inches, then branch -- repeatedly. I don't remember the parts near the ground being fatter -- but they really must have been to support the load of all the branches. However, the range map seems to show only a small patch near Sanderson or Marathon (north of Big Bend) so there may be better matches for what you remember. Eg, range of Pencil Cactus seems to include Laredo: http://thehibbitts.net/Cactus/TXCactus/E.poselgeri.html (but it doesn't seem to do much branching). Nope! Not at all. and the thorns should have a length about three to four times the diameter of the stem. I think that I'll try to contact him, and suggest that he visit LaSalle county. It *may* be that this never develops photogenic blossoms, which seems to be the primary focus of the web site. :-) I know that *I* never saw the blossoms -- but there were times of the year when I was less likely to go into the place where I knew some were. O.K. I just sent him an e-mail. We'll see what comes of it. Thanks much, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
Tire Bead Goop
On Sunday, 13 February 2011 22:27:25 UTC-5, Steve W. wrote:
Pilgrim wrote: Is the purpose of the goop they slather around the bead of a tubeless tire to lubricate during installation, to help seal the tire rim interface, or both? I have a freebee dolly on which one of the tire has a very very slow leak at the interface. What is this goop? The local auto parts store was of no help. Thanks Chuck P. Which goop? There are a couple. One is strictly a lube, it's basically water with some surfactant and water soluble oil. Then you have actual tire bead sealant. It is basically a thin rubber cement with carbon black as a thickening agent. The first is used to slip the tire over the rim easier and reduce the possibility of bead damage. The second is used on pitted aluminum or steel rims to seal the pits and retain air. If you only have a small tire then you could simply use a small amount of rubber cement around the bead. It will do the same thing as the tire sealant. Advance, Parts Plus, NAPA all carry it. -- Steve W. STEVE - This was very helpful for me, here in Canada Jan 2019. |
Tire Bead Goop
On Sunday, January 27, 2019 at 4:38:00 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Sunday, 13 February 2011 22:27:25 UTC-5, Steve W. wrote: Pilgrim wrote: Is the purpose of the goop they slather around the bead of a tubeless tire to lubricate during installation, to help seal the tire rim interface, or both? I have a freebee dolly on which one of the tire has a very very slow leak at the interface. What is this goop? The local auto parts store was of no help. Thanks Chuck P. Which goop? There are a couple. One is strictly a lube, it's basically water with some surfactant and water soluble oil. Then you have actual tire bead sealant. It is basically a thin rubber cement with carbon black as a thickening agent. The first is used to slip the tire over the rim easier and reduce the possibility of bead damage. The second is used on pitted aluminum or steel rims to seal the pits and retain air. If you only have a small tire then you could simply use a small amount of rubber cement around the bead. It will do the same thing as the tire sealant. Advance, Parts Plus, NAPA all carry it. -- Steve W. STEVE - This was very helpful for me, here in Canada Jan 2019. The tire shop used that thickened goop on the pitted aluminum wheels on my 2004 Sonata, six months ago. No leaks. -- Ed Huntress |
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