I bought a 12" x 6" x .5" piece of aluminum from mcmasters since aluminum is cheaper than
steel in that size from them. Anyway, it shows up today and I have it sitting on the
kitchen counter where I opened the shipping box.

A bit later I reach into the fridge to get the pork loin I pulled from the freezer
earlier. It was a bit late in the day so it was still frozen.

Thinking about how good a thermal conductor aluminum is, I laid the loin on the chunk of
aluminum. Darn, that works pretty good. For a second check, I got a fully frozen loin
and put it on the plate. Thawed about 1/4" in less than a hour.

The aluminum will not be staying in the kitchen since it is destined to be a mounting
plate for my Lee Loadmaster so I can mount it to my Bridgeport table and use that for a
bench. The machine room is the only part of my garage that is heated. I'll also drill
and tap bolt patterns for my Lyman Turret and Lyman LubeSizer.

Wes
--

I was a skeptic before I became a cynic.

On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:21:59 -0500, the renowned Wes
wrote:

I bought a 12" x 6" x .5" piece of aluminum from mcmasters since aluminum is cheaper than
steel in that size from them. Anyway, it shows up today and I have it sitting on the
kitchen counter where I opened the shipping box.

A bit later I reach into the fridge to get the pork loin I pulled from the freezer
earlier. It was a bit late in the day so it was still frozen.

Thinking about how good a thermal conductor aluminum is, I laid the loin on the chunk of
aluminum. Darn, that works pretty good. For a second check, I got a fully frozen loin
and put it on the plate. Thawed about 1/4" in less than a hour.

The aluminum will not be staying in the kitchen since it is destined to be a mounting
plate for my Lee Loadmaster so I can mount it to my Bridgeport table and use that for a
bench. The machine room is the only part of my garage that is heated. I'll also drill
and tap bolt patterns for my Lyman Turret and Lyman LubeSizer.

Wes

As I sort-of recall, it's been made into a product:
http://www.discusscooking.com/forums...get-10391.html

Chances are they didn't use anything nearly as substantial as your
manly 36 cubic inches of aluminum. A decently thick non-stick aluminum
frying pan is probably better than the mail-order gadgets were.


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

In article ,
Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:21:59 -0500, the renowned Wes
wrote:

I bought a 12" x 6" x .5" piece of aluminum from mcmasters since aluminum is
cheaper than
steel in that size from them. Anyway, it shows up today and I have it
sitting on the
kitchen counter where I opened the shipping box.

A bit later I reach into the fridge to get the pork loin I pulled from the
freezer
earlier. It was a bit late in the day so it was still frozen.

Thinking about how good a thermal conductor aluminum is, I laid the loin on
the chunk of
aluminum. Darn, that works pretty good. For a second check, I got a fully
frozen loin
and put it on the plate. Thawed about 1/4" in less than a hour.

The aluminum will not be staying in the kitchen since it is destined to be a
mounting
plate for my Lee Loadmaster so I can mount it to my Bridgeport table and use
that for a
bench. The machine room is the only part of my garage that is heated. I'll
also drill
and tap bolt patterns for my Lyman Turret and Lyman LubeSizer.

Wes

As I sort-of recall, it's been made into a product:
http://www.discusscooking.com/forums...-cooking-gadge
t-10391.html

Chances are they didn't use anything nearly as substantial as your
manly 36 cubic inches of aluminum. A decently thick non-stick aluminum
frying pan is probably better than the mail-order gadgets were.

To achieve full RCM status, you must use a 0.25" thick sheet of tinned
copper.

Joe Gwinn

On 12/29/2010 5:30 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
In ,
Spehro wrote:

On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:21:59 -0500, the renowned Wes

SNIP

Chances are they didn't use anything nearly as substantial as your
manly 36 cubic inches of aluminum. A decently thick non-stick aluminum
frying pan is probably better than the mail-order gadgets were.

To achieve full RCM status, you must use a 0.25" thick sheet of tinned
copper.

Joe Gwinn

Actually, .25" thick pure silver - much better conductor than copper

In article ,
Bill Noble wrote:

On 12/29/2010 5:30 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
In ,
Spehro wrote:

On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:21:59 -0500, the renowned Wes

SNIP

Chances are they didn't use anything nearly as substantial as your
manly 36 cubic inches of aluminum. A decently thick non-stick aluminum
frying pan is probably better than the mail-order gadgets were.

To achieve full RCM status, you must use a 0.25" thick sheet of tinned
copper.

Joe Gwinn

Actually, .25" thick pure silver - much better conductor than copper

Let's not go overboard here. How about silver-plated copper? Silver is
used in place of tin in very high end copper pots and pans.

Joe Gwinn

"Wes" wrote in message
news
I bought a 12" x 6" x .5" piece of aluminum from mcmasters since aluminum
is cheaper than
steel in that size from them. Anyway, it shows up today and I have it
sitting on the
kitchen counter where I opened the shipping box.

A bit later I reach into the fridge to get the pork loin I pulled from the
freezer
earlier. It was a bit late in the day so it was still frozen.

Thinking about how good a thermal conductor aluminum is, I laid the loin
on the chunk of
aluminum. Darn, that works pretty good. For a second check, I got a
fully frozen loin
and put it on the plate. Thawed about 1/4" in less than a hour.

The aluminum will not be staying in the kitchen since it is destined to be
a mounting
plate for my Lee Loadmaster so I can mount it to my Bridgeport table and
use that for a
bench. The machine room is the only part of my garage that is heated.
I'll also drill
and tap bolt patterns for my Lyman Turret and Lyman LubeSizer.

Wes
--

I was a skeptic before I became a cynic.

How long have you been using the LM? Any issues?

On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 09:27:21 -0500, the renowned Joseph Gwinn
wrote:

In article ,
Bill Noble wrote:

On 12/29/2010 5:30 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
In ,
Spehro wrote:

On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:21:59 -0500, the renowned Wes

SNIP

Chances are they didn't use anything nearly as substantial as your
manly 36 cubic inches of aluminum. A decently thick non-stick aluminum
frying pan is probably better than the mail-order gadgets were.

To achieve full RCM status, you must use a 0.25" thick sheet of tinned
copper.

Joe Gwinn

Actually, .25" thick pure silver - much better conductor than copper

Let's not go overboard here. How about silver-plated copper? Silver is
used in place of tin in very high end copper pots and pans.

Joe Gwinn

Silver plated diamond? (silver just to have some metal content).


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 09:27:21 -0500, the renowned Joseph Gwinn
Bill Noble wrote:
On 12/29/2010 5:30 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
Spehro wrote:
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:21:59 -0500, the renowned Wes
SNIP
Chances are they didn't use anything nearly as substantial as your
manly 36 cubic inches of aluminum. A decently thick non-stick
aluminum frying pan is probably better than the mail-order gadgets
were.

To achieve full RCM status, you must use a 0.25" thick sheet of tinned
copper.

Actually, .25" thick pure silver - much better conductor than copper

Let's not go overboard here. How about silver-plated copper? Silver is
used in place of tin in very high end copper pots and pans.

Silver plated diamond? (silver just to have some metal content).
Sure! just pop down to the friendly local neighborhood diamond store,
and pick up a 12" x 6" x 1/2" slab of diamond! ;-D

Cheers!
Rich

In article ,
Rich Grise wrote:

Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 09:27:21 -0500, the renowned Joseph Gwinn
Bill Noble wrote:
On 12/29/2010 5:30 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
Spehro wrote:
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:21:59 -0500, the renowned Wes
SNIP
Chances are they didn't use anything nearly as substantial as your
manly 36 cubic inches of aluminum. A decently thick non-stick
aluminum frying pan is probably better than the mail-order gadgets
were.

To achieve full RCM status, you must use a 0.25" thick sheet of tinned
copper.

Actually, .25" thick pure silver - much better conductor than copper

Let's not go overboard here. How about silver-plated copper? Silver is
used in place of tin in very high end copper pots and pans.

Silver plated diamond? (silver just to have some metal content).
Sure! just pop down to the friendly local neighborhood diamond store,
and pick up a 12" x 6" x 1/2" slab of diamond! ;-D

Actually, sheets of polycrystalline diamond can be deposited in bulk
from a RF plasma. But it still ain't cheap. Or that thick.

http://www.efunda.com/processes/surface/thinfilm_coatings.cfm

Joe Gwinn

On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 17:57:11 -0500, the renowned Joseph Gwinn
wrote:

In article ,
Rich Grise wrote:

Spehro Pefhany wrote:
On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 09:27:21 -0500, the renowned Joseph Gwinn
Bill Noble wrote:
On 12/29/2010 5:30 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
Spehro wrote:
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:21:59 -0500, the renowned Wes
SNIP
Chances are they didn't use anything nearly as substantial as your
manly 36 cubic inches of aluminum. A decently thick non-stick
aluminum frying pan is probably better than the mail-order gadgets
were.

To achieve full RCM status, you must use a 0.25" thick sheet of tinned
copper.

Actually, .25" thick pure silver - much better conductor than copper

Let's not go overboard here. How about silver-plated copper? Silver is
used in place of tin in very high end copper pots and pans.

Silver plated diamond? (silver just to have some metal content).
Sure! just pop down to the friendly local neighborhood diamond store,
and pick up a 12" x 6" x 1/2" slab of diamond! ;-D

Actually, sheets of polycrystalline diamond can be deposited in bulk
from a RF plasma. But it still ain't cheap. Or that thick.

http://www.efunda.com/processes/surface/thinfilm_coatings.cfm

Joe Gwinn

Maybe in our lifetime, or that of our kids, by CVD or some other
process.

Who would have thought 100 years ago that we'd have cheap tools made
with something as hard as tungsten carbide, or that slices of
_sapphire_ measuring inches in diameter would be affordable?


Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany
--
"it's the network..." "The Journey is the reward"
Info for manufacturers: http://www.trexon.com
Embedded software/hardware/analog Info for designers: http://www.speff.com

On Dec 30, 12:18*am, Bill Noble wrote:
On 12/29/2010 5:30 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote:

In ,
* Spehro *wrote:

On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:21:59 -0500, the renowned Wes

SNIP

Chances are they didn't use anything nearly as substantial as your
manly 36 cubic inches of aluminum. A decently thick non-stick aluminum
frying pan is probably better than the mail-order gadgets were.

To achieve full RCM status, you must use a 0.25" thick sheet of tinned
copper.

Joe Gwinn

Actually, .25" thick pure silver - much better conductor than copper

Gold. No sense cheaping out.
Karl

On Thu, 30 Dec 2010 19:31:15 -0800, wrote:
On Dec 30, 12:18Â*am, Bill Noble wrote:
On 12/29/2010 5:30 PM, Joseph Gwinn wrote:
Â* Spehro PefhanyspeffS... Â*wrote:
On Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:21:59 -0500, the renowned Wes
SNIP
Chances are they didn't use anything nearly as substantial as your
manly 36 cubic inches of aluminum. A decently thick non-stick
aluminum frying pan is probably better than the mail-order gadgets
were.

To achieve full RCM status, you must use a 0.25" thick sheet of
tinned copper.
....
Actually, .25" thick pure silver - much better conductor than copper

Gold. No sense cheaping out.

The thermal conductivity of gold exceeds that of aluminum,
but is less than that of copper, silver, diamond, or graphene.
See either of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermal_conductivity#Experimental_values
http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/thermal-conductivity-metals-d_858.html

Anyway, for the original purpose of rapidly defrosting a frozen
pork chop, exposing it on all sides to warm turbulent air would
work faster than laying the chop on a piece of metal.

--
jiw

Tom Gardner wrote:

How long have you been using the LM? Any issues?


I don't know about him but I used one for a bunch of
years back in the 60s for Win 270, 30-06, and a
LOT of 38 Spl + a small bit of other stuff.
Quit reloading when I hung up the target shooting
and hunting.
...lew...

"Lewis Hartswick" wrote in message
m...
Tom Gardner wrote:

How long have you been using the LM? Any issues?
I don't know about him but I used one for a bunch of
years back in the 60s for Win 270, 30-06, and a
LOT of 38 Spl + a small bit of other stuff.
Quit reloading when I hung up the target shooting
and hunting.
...lew...


Anything that you might like to sell? I didn't think Lee was making the
Loadmaster back then.

"Tom Gardner" all@net wrote:

How long have you been using the LM? Any issues?

I used it for a couple years and then took a time out. I never got it to work with all
the bells and whistles for long.

Right now I tend to use it to deprime followed by inside neck expand.

Prime off line with a autoprime. Btw, the lastest one with the square pan sucks. The
earlier round one is far more ergonomic.

Set up 50 cases in a loading block and fly over them with a lyman 55 powder throw.

Verify powder levels with strong light and measure contents of last case charged to check
charge weight.

Then I feed the cases back in, with a bullet on top of them, run though seating die and
taper crimp die.

Not blazing fast but it is safe.

I've had problems with primers from deprime station hanging up in shell plate, miss feeds
from press mounted accuprime system damaging the little plastic bit that slides the primer
and I'm not that thrilled with their powder throw.

That is why I use my modified method. It is still faster than a single station press and
is a lot more forgiving. I may try getting the case feeder working sometime in the
future.

Someday I'm buying a Dillon.

Wes

--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

"Tom Gardner" all@net wrote:

How long have you been using the LM? Any issues?

Here is a review I saw recently. This guy has a Lee, Hornady, and a Dillon. It is worth
a read.

http://www.thehighroad.org/attachmen...7&d=1288975674

Wes