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Rail Anvils
I just put up a page one rail anvils. It contains all I know about them
at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Pete Stanaitis --------------------- |
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On 2010-12-29, spaco wrote:
I just put up a page one rail anvils. It contains all I know about them at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Pete Stanaitis --------------------- I am very happy with my homemade anvil http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Weld...de-Mini-Anvil/ I have a 200 lb Peter Wright too, but this is a small and portable one. i |
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Rail Anvils
On 12/28/2010 04:15 PM, spaco wrote:
I just put up a page one rail anvils. It contains all I know about them at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Dumb question: Where do you go to scrounge rails? -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com Do you need to implement control loops in software? "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written for you. See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html |
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On 12/28/2010 04:40 PM, Tim Wescott wrote:
On 12/28/2010 04:15 PM, spaco wrote: I just put up a page one rail anvils. It contains all I know about them at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Dumb question: Where do you go to scrounge rails? About half way through that I said "d'oh", and emailed my brother to see if he can scrounge some. But not everyone has a brother who helps to restore antique steam locomotives. So I'm still interested. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com Do you need to implement control loops in software? "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written for you. See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html |
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Rail Anvils
On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 16:40:35 -0800, Tim Wescott
wrote: On 12/28/2010 04:15 PM, spaco wrote: I just put up a page one rail anvils. It contains all I know about them at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Dumb question: Where do you go to scrounge rails? I keep seeing them at garage sales in one to six foot lengths for five to twenty bucks. I got 2' thrown in with a weedeater purchase for free. -- Make the best use of what is in your power, and take the rest as it happens. -- Epictetus |
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On 2010-12-29, Tim Wescott wrote:
On 12/28/2010 04:40 PM, Tim Wescott wrote: On 12/28/2010 04:15 PM, spaco wrote: I just put up a page one rail anvils. It contains all I know about them at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Dumb question: Where do you go to scrounge rails? About half way through that I said "d'oh", and emailed my brother to see if he can scrounge some. But not everyone has a brother who helps to restore antique steam locomotives. So I'm still interested. In my case, it was a father in law. i |
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Rail Anvils
"spaco" wrote in message news I just put up a page one rail anvils. It contains all I know about them at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Pete Stanaitis My own personal experience with it is that unless you are going to beat on it eight hours a day hard, that a piece of rail will serve most purposes. Steve |
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"Tim Wescott" wrote in message ... On 12/28/2010 04:15 PM, spaco wrote: I just put up a page one rail anvils. It contains all I know about them at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Dumb question: Where do you go to scrounge rails? -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com Do you need to implement control loops in software? "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written for you. See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html My last piece, about six feet, was picked from a sand pit boneyard. They had welded chains to it, and were using it for a drag. Steve |
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spaco wrote:
I just put up a page one rail anvils. It contains all I know about them at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Pete Stanaitis --------------------- I use a couple for blade smithing and small stuff. Works fine. Plus they are much easier to move around. -- Steve W. |
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On Dec 28, 5:15*pm, spaco wrote:
I just put up a page one rail anvils. *It contains all I know about them at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Pete Stanaitis --------------------- I've got a small one that's very handy for punching pins out and such, I've got larger ones that work better for hot work and cold bending. |
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On Dec 28, 5:15*pm, spaco wrote:
I just put up a page one rail anvils. *It contains all I know about them at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Pete Stanaitis --------------------- I've got a small one that's useful for benchtop work, picked it up somewhere for junk. Worked the horn over with an angle grinder and polished the top up. I've bigger anvils for hot work and cold bending, this one's good for punching pins out and whacking a bullet puller against. Better than the small HF cast iron wonders. Stan |
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Rail Anvils
My "small one" is a piece of tee shaped cast iron that broke off of some
machine. About a 1/2" thick, 4" x 12" or so. To use as a anvil the stem of the tee gets clamped in a hefty bench vise. Bob |
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On Dec 29, 12:30*pm, Ignoramus18879 ignoramus18...@NOSPAM.
18879.invalid wrote: On 2010-12-29, wrote: On Dec 28, 5:15?pm, spaco wrote: I just put up a page one rail anvils. ?It contains all I know about them at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Pete Stanaitis --------------------- I've got a small one that's useful for benchtop work, picked it up somewhere for junk. *Worked the horn over with an angle grinder and polished the top up. *I've bigger anvils for hot work and cold bending, this one's good for punching pins out and whacking a bullet puller against. *Better than the small HF cast iron wonders. Stan I put a flattop plate on mine, and it is really great for straightening things. i There is heavier rail available than the one listed in the OP website. 172 and 175 lb/yard crane runway may be available in certain scrap yards. I have a 12" piece of 172 lb/yd rail given to me by railfitters on a job I project managed. Great for flattening stuff. Wolfgang |
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Bob Engelhardt wrote:
My "small one" is a piece of tee shaped cast iron that broke off of some machine. About a 1/2" thick, 4" x 12" or so. To use as a anvil the stem of the tee gets clamped in a hefty bench vise. Bob I have a cylinder valve cover off of an Atlas Copco compressor that I use for real light stuff. It's 6" square 3/4" hardened tool steel with a 3/4" hole in each corner. The place I worked for had tons of them that came in as scrap. They were sent in with parts that the company wanted stripped and polished. -- Steve W. (\___/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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Larry Jaques wrote: On Tue, 28 Dec 2010 16:40:35 -0800, Tim Wescott ? wrote: ?On 12/28/2010 04:15 PM, spaco wrote: ?? I just put up a page one rail anvils. It contains all I know about them ?? at present and what I am doing with them: ?? ?? http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm ?? ?? When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, ?? several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we ?? do it anyway. ? ?Dumb question: Where do you go to scrounge rails? I keep seeing them at garage sales in one to six foot lengths for five to twenty bucks. I got 2' thrown in with a weedeater purchase for free. Did it hurt much when it hit you? ;-) -- For the last time: I am not a mad scientist, I'm just a very ticked off scientist!!! |
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"spaco" wrote in message
news I just put up a page one rail anvils. It contains all I know about them at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Pete Stanaitis --------------------- Nice. Thanks for posting that. My dad has a couple chucks of railroad iron he uses for beating on, but nothing shaped so nicely. Just out of curiosity, have you or anybody you have read about tried hard facing some surfaces and regrinding flat? |
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On Dec 31, 5:15*pm, "Bob La Londe" wrote:
Nice. *Thanks for posting that. *My dad has a couple chucks of railroad iron he uses for beating on, but nothing shaped so nicely. *Just out of curiosity, have you or anybody you have read about tried hard facing some surfaces and regrinding flat? Go to Sci.eng.joining.welding and look for Ernies website. He has tons of information , including how to make an anvil. Dan |
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On Dec 28, 6:15*pm, spaco wrote:
I just put up a page one rail anvils. *It contains all I know about them at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Pete Stanaitis --------------------- I like rail anvils...I find them very interesting how others can take a scrap of metal and turn it into a very useful tool. I find that I need to restrain myself from collecting them. ;) TMT |
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On Dec 28, 6:15*pm, spaco wrote:
I just put up a page one rail anvils. *It contains all I know about them at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Pete Stanaitis --------------------- Nice page Pete..thanks for posting it. TMT |
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Bob La Londe wrote:
"spaco" wrote in message news I just put up a page one rail anvils. It contains all I know about them at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Pete Stanaitis --------------------- Nice. Thanks for posting that. My dad has a couple chucks of railroad iron he uses for beating on, but nothing shaped so nicely. Just out of curiosity, have you or anybody you have read about tried hard facing some surfaces and regrinding flat? Yep, Redid the face of an anvil. Used a stick machine, ground the face down some, welded the entire surface, heated the entire anvil and cleaned the weld slag off. Then welded a second layer on. After the second layer I faced it and checked it all over for pits/dirt. Then had the surface ground flat and radiused one side at 3/8" while the other was at 90 degrees with just the edge broke. Works OK but it's a LOT of work. One thing I thought about doing would be to take a chunk of good tool steel, grand a double chamfer on the back and then weld that to the surface one pass at a time. Then grind that surface true and see what it does. -- Steve W. |
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On 2011-01-01, Steve W. wrote:
Bob La Londe wrote: "spaco" wrote in message news I just put up a page one rail anvils. It contains all I know about them at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Pete Stanaitis --------------------- Nice. Thanks for posting that. My dad has a couple chucks of railroad iron he uses for beating on, but nothing shaped so nicely. Just out of curiosity, have you or anybody you have read about tried hard facing some surfaces and regrinding flat? Yep, Redid the face of an anvil. Used a stick machine, ground the face down some, welded the entire surface, heated the entire anvil and cleaned the weld slag off. Then welded a second layer on. After the second layer I faced it and checked it all over for pits/dirt. Then had the surface ground flat and radiused one side at 3/8" while the other was at 90 degrees with just the edge broke. Works OK but it's a LOT of work. One thing I thought about doing would be to take a chunk of good tool steel, grand a double chamfer on the back and then weld that to the surface one pass at a time. Then grind that surface true and see what it does. I simply welded a thick flat piece of 4140 on top of the rail. i |
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On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 17:27:58 -0800 (PST), Too_Many_Tools
wrote: On Dec 28, 6:15*pm, spaco wrote: I just put up a page one rail anvils. *It contains all I know about them at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Pete Stanaitis --------------------- I like rail anvils...I find them very interesting how others can take a scrap of metal and turn it into a very useful tool. I find that I need to restrain myself from collecting them. ;) TMT When Grandfather moved in with us, he brought his two foot length of rail with him. A family friend admired this useful item so Grandfather cut it in half with a hand hack saw and gave him a piece. I still use the remaining piece 65 years latter. I have a five foot length out in the shed but haven't summoned the energy to cut it shorter. Beside it is a four foot length of steel pipe 6"ID x 7"OD. Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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On Jan 2, 8:52*pm, Gerald Miller wrote:
On Fri, 31 Dec 2010 17:27:58 -0800 (PST), Too_Many_Tools wrote: On Dec 28, 6:15 pm, spaco wrote: I just put up a page one rail anvils. It contains all I know about them at present and what I am doing with them: http://www.spaco.org/Blacksmithing/A...RailAnvils.htm When folks (including me) have posted on this subject in the past, several guys flame us for even thinking about using a rail anvil, but we do it anyway. Pete Stanaitis --------------------- I like rail anvils...I find them very interesting how others can take a scrap of metal and turn it into a very useful tool. I find that I need to restrain myself from collecting them. ;) TMT When Grandfather moved in with us, he brought his two foot length of rail with him. A family friend admired this useful item so Grandfather cut it in half with a hand hack saw and gave him a piece. I still use the remaining piece 65 years latter. I have a five foot length out in the shed but haven't summoned the energy to cut it shorter. Beside it is a four foot length of steel pipe 6"ID x *7"OD. Gerry :-)} London, Canada- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I would be in no hurry...it is easier to cut it shorter than to cut it longer. Much thought needs to go into projects when a special piece of metal is involved. I would suggest making something to pass on to the next generation. TMT |
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