On 12/18/2010 10:49 AM, Karl Townsend wrote:
This group has been most helpful on our re-wire job, thanks.

When sitting at the dock, the only 12 volt usage is the live well
pump. It would be real nice to have a little 12 volt marine quality
supply and have its presence cut lose the live well pump from the
batteries.

Doing this in a shop is easy, under a boat deck needs way better
stuff. Suggestions?

Karl

Two ways come to mind:
1) Put in a double pole, double throw relay with a 12V coil with the
coil and normally closed contacts supplied by the 12V power supply.
Connect the battery to the normally open contacts. Connect the pump to
the relay common terminals. When the shore power has the power supply
on, it will pull in the relay and power the pump from the power supply,
no load on the battery. When the shore power disconnects, the relay
drops out and the battery feeds the pump.

2) Use a power supply with about 15V of output. Connect the + on the
power supply to the anode of a diode that will handle the pump current
load. Connect the + from the battery to the anode of another diode
(similar size to the first one). Connect the two cathodes of the diodes
together and connect to the + side of the pump. Connect the negative of
the power supply, battery and pump together. When the power supply is
on, it will have a higher voltage than the battery (around 13V - 14V)
and the diode between the power supply and the pump will conduct. The
higher voltage on the cathode of the diode to the battery will switch it
off, isolating the battery. When the shore power supply is off, the
voltage on two cathodes of the diodes will drop until they are lower
than the battery + voltage and the diode between the battery and the
pump will conduct. The diode to the power supply will be off.


Method 1 is obvious how it works and is not dependent on the voltage of
the power supply being above (at least 1.2V) the max battery voltage
(with the engine off).

Method 2 has no moving parts. Take yer pick.


BobH

This group has been most helpful on our re-wire job, thanks.

When sitting at the dock, the only 12 volt usage is the live well
pump. It would be real nice to have a little 12 volt marine quality
supply and have its presence cut lose the live well pump from the
batteries.

Doing this in a shop is easy, under a boat deck needs way better
stuff. Suggestions?

Karl

Karl,
I think your proposal is redundant. You need a marine intelligent battery charger that you always plug in when at the dock.
Steve

"Karl Townsend" wrote in message ...
This group has been most helpful on our re-wire job, thanks.

When sitting at the dock, the only 12 volt usage is the live well
pump. It would be real nice to have a little 12 volt marine quality
supply and have its presence cut lose the live well pump from the
batteries.

Doing this in a shop is easy, under a boat deck needs way better
stuff. Suggestions?

Karl

Karl Townsend wrote:
This group has been most helpful on our re-wire job, thanks.

When sitting at the dock, the only 12 volt usage is the live well
pump. It would be real nice to have a little 12 volt marine quality
supply and have its presence cut lose the live well pump from the
batteries.

Doing this in a shop is easy, under a boat deck needs way better
stuff. Suggestions?

Karl


I wouldn't want the live well pump to be able to automatically
run the battery down...



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On Sat, 18 Dec 2010 14:49:16 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

Karl Townsend wrote:
This group has been most helpful on our re-wire job, thanks.

When sitting at the dock, the only 12 volt usage is the live well
pump. It would be real nice to have a little 12 volt marine quality
supply and have its presence cut lose the live well pump from the
batteries.

Doing this in a shop is easy, under a boat deck needs way better
stuff. Suggestions?

Karl


I wouldn't want the live well pump to be able to automatically
run the battery down...
Put a switch on the darn thing - if you don't want it to run the
battery down, shut it off??