In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..





Hello,
Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me with the below information, So that i can quickly send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.


Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Postal Code:
Phone Number:

Hope to read from you soon.

Thanks


Gut feeling its a scam of some sort.

Anyone?

Ive not replied to this email yet.

Gunner

--
"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it,
or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity
isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries
Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate
results." - John Tucci,

?
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..





Hello,
Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me with the below information, So that i can quickly send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.


Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Postal Code:
Phone Number:

Hope to read from you soon.

Thanks


Gut feeling its a scam of some sort.

Anyone?

Ive not replied to this email yet.

Gunner

Yep its a scam, since when did we start using postal codes ?

Best Regards
Tom.

Gunner Asch wrote:
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..





Hello,
Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me with the below information, So that i can quickly send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.


Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Postal Code:
Phone Number:

Hope to read from you soon.

Thanks


Gut feeling its a scam of some sort.

Anyone?

Ive not replied to this email yet.

Gunner


Sounds very much like the guy I had fun with a few years ago when I
decided to F around with a scammer just for the halibut:

http://home.comcast.net/~jwisnia18/j...ambusting.html

(Apologies if I've posted this here before...)

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia
(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)
The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight.

Doubtless a scam.

i

On 2010-12-07, Gunner Asch wrote:
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..





Hello,
Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me with the below information, So that i can quickly send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.


Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Postal Code:
Phone Number:

Hope to read from you soon.

Thanks


Gut feeling its a scam of some sort.

Anyone?

Ive not replied to this email yet.

Gunner

On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:08:30 -0800, "azotic" wrote:

?
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..





Hello,
Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me with the below information, So that i can quickly send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.


Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Postal Code:
Phone Number:

Hope to read from you soon.

Thanks


Gut feeling its a scam of some sort.

Anyone?

Ive not replied to this email yet.

Gunner

Yep its a scam, since when did we start using postal codes ?

Best Regards
Tom.

Bravo! Well done Sir!

There are also 2 grammatical errors...or non American syntax in there
that tend to make one believe its an out of the US scam.

Anyone else find the last 2 indicators as of yet not mentioned?

Gunner

--
"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it,
or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity
isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries
Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate
results." - John Tucci,

On 2010-12-08, Gunner Asch wrote:
Bravo! Well done Sir!

There are also 2 grammatical errors...or non American syntax in there
that tend to make one believe its an out of the US scam.

Anyone else find the last 2 indicators as of yet not mentioned?


I get plenty of responses from people whose first language is not
English. I do not hold poor grammar against them.

Your email was a scam, but dismissing all emails written in poor
English is also a mistake.

i

On 12/07/2010 03:00 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..





Hello,
Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me with the below information, So that i can quickly send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.


Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Postal Code:
Phone Number:

Hope to read from you soon.

Thanks


Gut feeling its a scam of some sort.

Anyone?

Ive not replied to this email yet.

Then they'll send you a check, for more than you agreed on. Then
they'll say -- "oh, could you refund us the extra". Then you'll wait a
day or two for the check to 'clear' the bank and (if you're stupid)
you'll send them money.

Then, a week or so later, you'll be on the road to finding out that
while US law demands that your bank make the funds in a check
_available_ to you within three (or two, or something) days, they don't
actually put the bank on the hook for _verifying_ that the funds really
are there that quickly. So when the check bounces the bank will
(perfectly legally) suck that money right out of your account, and
you'll be stuck high and dry. Maybe you'll even have spent it already,
and you'll be stuck with bounced check fees for all the checks you wrote
on that nice shiny money you got.

It's a common scam -- Iggy's posted about it, and I've read about it
elsewhere. I'm kinda glad that I just sell my expertise -- someone like
that wouldn't be able to make a job for me look real without doing a lot
more work than it's worth (assuming there's enough fools out there).

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written for you.
See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html

On Dec 7, 5:00*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..



Hello,
*Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
*am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and *cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me *with the below information, So that i can quickly *send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.

Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Postal Code:
Phone Number:

Hope to read from you soon.

Thanks

Gut feeling its a scam of some sort.

Anyone?

Ive not replied to this email yet.

Gunner

--
"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it,
*or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
*caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity
isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries
Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate
results." - John Tucci,

Definitely a scam.

We all know that your hoists aren't worth you are asking for them.

TMT

On Dec 7, 5:00*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..



Hello,
*Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
*am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and *cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me *with the below information, So that i can quickly *send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.

Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Postal Code:
Phone Number:

Hope to read from you soon.

Thanks

Gut feeling its a scam of some sort.

Anyone?

Ive not replied to this email yet.

Gunner

--
"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it,
*or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
*caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity
isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries
Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate
results." - John Tucci,

Maybe it is one of your creditors seeing if you have their money yet.

TMT

"azotic" on Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:08:30 -0800 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
?
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..





Hello,
Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me with the below information, So that i can quickly send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.


Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Postal Code:
Phone Number:

Hope to read from you soon.

Thanks


Gut feeling its a scam of some sort.

Anyone?

Ive not replied to this email yet.

Gunner

Yep its a scam, since when did we start using postal codes ?

Way back, long before we switch to the Zone Improvement Program's
codes.
--
pyotr filipivich
We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!

Gunner Asch wrote in
rec.crafts.metalworking on Tue, 07 Dec 2010 15:00:59 -0800:

In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..

sniped

Gut feeling its a scam of some sort.

Anyone?

Ive not replied to this email yet.

Gunner

Yes! Scam. To confirm, you can reply with some strange facts or odd
terms and see that they aren't scared off. Like tell them that it's
from your sisters barbie set. They won't bat an eye.
--

Dan H.
northshore MA.

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..
snip

Gut feeling its a scam of some sort.

Anyone?

Ive not replied to this email yet.

Gunner


Have some fun!
http://thescambaiter.com/forum/

On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 18:15:15 -0600, Ignoramus18826
wrote:

On 2010-12-08, Gunner Asch wrote:
Bravo! Well done Sir!

There are also 2 grammatical errors...or non American syntax in there
that tend to make one believe its an out of the US scam.

Anyone else find the last 2 indicators as of yet not mentioned?


I get plenty of responses from people whose first language is not
English. I do not hold poor grammar against them.

Your email was a scam, but dismissing all emails written in poor
English is also a mistake.

i

Tovarish...why would you believe that I dismiss all emails because of
poor language skills?

Did you notice also that the spelling was Perfect throughout?

Gunner

--
"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it,
or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity
isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries
Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate
results." - John Tucci,

On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 16:18:58 -0800, Tim Wescott
wrote:

On 12/07/2010 03:00 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..





Hello,
Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me with the below information, So that i can quickly send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.


Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Postal Code:
Phone Number:

Hope to read from you soon.

Thanks


Gut feeling its a scam of some sort.

Anyone?

Ive not replied to this email yet.

Then they'll send you a check, for more than you agreed on. Then
they'll say -- "oh, could you refund us the extra". Then you'll wait a
day or two for the check to 'clear' the bank and (if you're stupid)
you'll send them money.

Then, a week or so later, you'll be on the road to finding out that
while US law demands that your bank make the funds in a check
_available_ to you within three (or two, or something) days, they don't
actually put the bank on the hook for _verifying_ that the funds really
are there that quickly. So when the check bounces the bank will
(perfectly legally) suck that money right out of your account, and
you'll be stuck high and dry. Maybe you'll even have spent it already,
and you'll be stuck with bounced check fees for all the checks you wrote
on that nice shiny money you got.

It's a common scam -- Iggy's posted about it, and I've read about it
elsewhere. I'm kinda glad that I just sell my expertise -- someone like
that wouldn't be able to make a job for me look real without doing a lot
more work than it's worth (assuming there's enough fools out there).

So how do you suggest I **** this guy over? Or should I reserve that
sort of thing for after the holidays?

Gunner

--
"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it,
or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity
isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries
Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate
results." - John Tucci,

?
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
news
On 12/07/2010 03:00 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

So how do you suggest I **** this guy over? Or should I reserve that
sort of thing for after the holidays?

Gunner


Send him some mercaptan after shave lotion.

Best Regards
Tom.

Actually very simple, accept his check (but do not cash it, just
receive it in the mail) and then tell him that you wired the money.

It will cost him money and aggravation.

i
On 2010-12-08, azotic wrote:
?
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
news
On 12/07/2010 03:00 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

So how do you suggest I **** this guy over? Or should I reserve that
sort of thing for after the holidays?

Gunner


Send him some mercaptan after shave lotion.

Best Regards
Tom.

In article ,
"Tom Gardner" wrote:

http://thescambaiter.com/forum/



I think what you have is a bush league variation of the classic Nigerian
419 scam:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/419_scam

There is a whole subculture out there who's 'hobby' is yanking the
chains of these little scammer *******s... Check this along with Tom
Gardners link above:

http://www.419eater.com/index.php

Some hilarious stuff is on this site... but many hours of reading...

(CAUTION! Read, understand and heed the warning posted he

http://www.419eater.com/html/baiting.htm

....should you choose to dick with one of these clowns.)

Erik

On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 18:10:18 -0800, "azotic" wrote:

?
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
news
On 12/07/2010 03:00 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

So how do you suggest I **** this guy over? Or should I reserve that
sort of thing for after the holidays?

Gunner


Send him some mercaptan after shave lotion.

Best Regards
Tom.


Nice!! Boxed up pretty with a big bow on it in Christmas wrap.


--
"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it,
or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity
isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries
Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate
results." - John Tucci,

On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 20:15:34 -0600, Ignoramus18826
wrote:

Actually very simple, accept his check (but do not cash it, just
receive it in the mail) and then tell him that you wired the money.

It will cost him money and aggravation.

i

Thats a very good idea!!


On 2010-12-08, azotic wrote:
?
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
news
On 12/07/2010 03:00 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

So how do you suggest I **** this guy over? Or should I reserve that
sort of thing for after the holidays?

Gunner


Send him some mercaptan after shave lotion.

Best Regards
Tom.


--
"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it,
or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity
isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries
Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate
results." - John Tucci,

On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 18:58:26 -0800, Erik wrote:

In article ,
"Tom Gardner" wrote:

http://thescambaiter.com/forum/



I think what you have is a bush league variation of the classic Nigerian
419 scam:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/419_scam

There is a whole subculture out there who's 'hobby' is yanking the
chains of these little scammer *******s... Check this along with Tom
Gardners link above:

http://www.419eater.com/index.php

Some hilarious stuff is on this site... but many hours of reading...

(CAUTION! Read, understand and heed the warning posted he

http://www.419eater.com/html/baiting.htm

...should you choose to dick with one of these clowns.)

Erik

Saved!

Ill check into this when I get back from LA..where Im heading in a few
minutes

Gunner

--
"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it,
or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity
isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries
Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate
results." - John Tucci,

On 2010-12-07, Gunner Asch wrote:
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..





Hello,
Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me with the below information, So that i can quickly send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.

[ ... ]

Gut feeling its a scam of some sort.

Anyone?

It sure feels like one to me. I don't know what you can do with
your bank to get it truly verified in a way which won't come back to
bite you. Perhaps start out with the local police or something?

Good Luck,
DoN.

--
Remove oil spill source from e-mail
Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
(too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---

On 2010-12-08, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:08:30 -0800, "azotic" wrote:

?
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
. ..
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..





Hello,
Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me with the below information, So that i can quickly send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.

[ ... ]

Hope to read from you soon.

[ ... ]

Yep its a scam, since when did we start using postal codes ?

Best Regards
Tom.

Bravo! Well done Sir!

There are also 2 grammatical errors...or non American syntax in there
that tend to make one believe its an out of the US scam.

Anyone else find the last 2 indicators as of yet not mentioned?

Well ... "greatfull" instead of "grateful", using the lower case
'i' for the personal pronoun, "read from you", "received" instead of
"receive", "the pick-up" instead of "a pick-up", "Quickly get back to
me", "to make fast transaction" without "a" before "fast".

Many of those could just be typos -- but the overall feel says
that is not the case.

What do you want to bet that he will send you a check for too
much, and expect you to send the excess to some third party in the US --
so you are in essence at a minimum laundering the money if the check is
truly valid, which I strongly doubt."

Good Luck,
DoN.

--
Remove oil spill source from e-mail
Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564
(too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html
--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---

Gunner Asch wrote:

Did you notice also that the spelling was Perfect throughout?

Uh, no? "greatfull?" The pronoun "I" in lower case? Too bad you snipped
the original - I spotted about a half-dozen blunders.

Cheers!
Rich

pyotr filipivich wrote:
"azotic" on Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:08:30 -0800 typed
?
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
Yep its a scam, since when did we start using postal codes ?

Way back, long before we switch to the Zone Improvement Program's
codes.

Even then, it was never used in the US. Canada, yes, and there might
have been some kind of "zone" code, but I can't remember the term at
the moment.

Cheers!
Rich

On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 17:07:05 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 18:15:15 -0600, Ignoramus18826
wrote:

On 2010-12-08, Gunner Asch wrote:
Bravo! Well done Sir!

There are also 2 grammatical errors...or non American syntax in there
that tend to make one believe its an out of the US scam.

Anyone else find the last 2 indicators as of yet not mentioned?


I get plenty of responses from people whose first language is not
English. I do not hold poor grammar against them.

Your email was a scam, but dismissing all emails written in poor
English is also a mistake.

i

Tovarish...why would you believe that I dismiss all emails because of
poor language skills?

Did you notice also that the spelling was Perfect throughout?

Gunner

As in "greatfull"?

On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 18:58:26 -0800, Erik wrote:

(CAUTION! Read, understand and heed the warning posted he

http://www.419eater.com/html/baiting.htm

...should you choose to dick with one of these clowns.)

Erik

With this post you may have exposed Gunner to a new hobby...

DoN. Nichols wrote:
On 2010-12-07, Gunner Asch wrote:
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..





Hello,
Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me with the below information, So that i can quickly send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.

[ ... ]

Gut feeling its a scam of some sort.

Anyone?

It sure feels like one to me. I don't know what you can do with
your bank to get it truly verified in a way which won't come back to
bite you. Perhaps start out with the local police or something?

Good Luck,
DoN.


The phraseaology is west african pigin english. They always leave out
the "a" between fast and transaction.
The problem is giving your contact details.
You could say your moving house and could he send the cheque to a post
restante address.
To wire the money youd need a wire address, How to get this without him
giving it is difficult.
or say your moving banks and can he send cash by courier.
The last thing you want is for him to send a friend around to your
address to sort you out.
As we say here in the UK.
Depends how much else you have to do to give him the scammer runaround.
Ted
Dorset UK.

On Dec 7, 11:56*pm, Ted Frater wrote:
DoN. Nichols wrote:
On 2010-12-07, Gunner Asch wrote:
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..



Hello,
*Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
*am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and *cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me *with the below information, So that i can quickly *send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.

* *[ ... ]

Gut feeling its a scam of some sort.

Anyone?

* *It sure feels like one to me. *I don't know what you can do with
your bank to get it truly verified in a way which won't come back to
bite you. *Perhaps start out with the local police or something?

* *Good Luck,
* * * * * *DoN.

The phraseaology is west african pigin english. They always leave out
the "a" between fast and transaction.
The problem is giving your contact details.
You could say your moving house and could he send the cheque to a post
restante address.
To wire the money youd need a wire address, How to get this without him
giving it is difficult.
or say your moving banks and can he send cash by courier.
The last thing you want is for him to send a friend around to your
address to sort you out.
As we say here in the UK.
Depends *how much else you have to do to give him the scammer runaround..
* Ted
* Dorset UK.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

And since Gunner's real name and address is readily available on
Usenet.... ;)

TMT

DoN. Nichols wrote:
On 2010-12-08, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:08:30 -0800, "azotic" wrote:
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..


Hello,
Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me with the below information, So that i can quickly send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.
[ ... ]
Hope to read from you soon.
[ ... ]
Yep its a scam, since when did we start using postal codes ?

Bravo! Well done Sir!

There are also 2 grammatical errors...or non American syntax in there
that tend to make one believe its an out of the US scam.

Anyone else find the last 2 indicators as of yet not mentioned?

Well ... "greatfull" instead of "grateful", using the lower case
'i' for the personal pronoun, "read from you", "received" instead of
"receive", "the pick-up" instead of "a pick-up", "Quickly get back to
me", "to make fast transaction" without "a" before "fast".

Many of those could just be typos -- but the overall feel says
that is not the case.

What do you want to bet that he will send you a check for too
much, and expect you to send the excess to some third party in the US --
so you are in essence at a minimum laundering the money if the check is
truly valid, which I strongly doubt."

So, send him your name and mailing address, which are pretty much public
knowledge anyway, and if you get a check, take it to the bank, and if it
clears and the bank says, "Yes, you actually have those dollars now,"
contact the guy and have him come and pick it up. Or ship it, or whatever
the terms are.

Cheers!
Rich

Ignoramus18826 wrote:

Actually very simple, accept his check (but do not cash it, just
receive it in the mail) and then tell him that you wired the money.

If you get a check and it turns out to be good, why not just do the
deal?

Thanks,
Rich

Please provide the info to him. I'm betting the "bank certified check"
comes in with a postal code from Benin. If you want, message me and I'll
give you my info to give to him. I'm trying to hone my "interpret the
English translation to determine the country of origin" skills and this
sounds like the semi-broken English you would hear from Benin, Togo, or
Ghana with my gut telling me it is Benin.
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Rich Grise wrote:

DoN. Nichols wrote:
On 2010-12-08, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010 15:08:30 -0800, "azotic" wrote:
"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..


Hello,
Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me with the below information, So that i can quickly send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.
[ ... ]
Hope to read from you soon.
[ ... ]
Yep its a scam, since when did we start using postal codes ?

Bravo! Well done Sir!

There are also 2 grammatical errors...or non American syntax in there
that tend to make one believe its an out of the US scam.

Anyone else find the last 2 indicators as of yet not mentioned?

Well ... "greatfull" instead of "grateful", using the lower case
'i' for the personal pronoun, "read from you", "received" instead of
"receive", "the pick-up" instead of "a pick-up", "Quickly get back to
me", "to make fast transaction" without "a" before "fast".

Many of those could just be typos -- but the overall feel says
that is not the case.

What do you want to bet that he will send you a check for too
much, and expect you to send the excess to some third party in the US --
so you are in essence at a minimum laundering the money if the check is
truly valid, which I strongly doubt."

So, send him your name and mailing address, which are pretty much public
knowledge anyway, and if you get a check, take it to the bank, and if it
clears and the bank says, "Yes, you actually have those dollars now,"
contact the guy and have him come and pick it up. Or ship it, or whatever
the terms are.


Great advice. A local woman was recently convicted for doing just
that. Of course, you're too stupid to realize that you can be arrsted
and tried for doing something like this.


--
For the last time: I am not a mad scientist, I'm just a very ticked off
scientist!!!

Gunner Asch wrote:

On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 16:18:58 -0800, Tim Wescott
wrote:

On 12/07/2010 03:00 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..





Hello,
Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me with the below information, So that i can quickly send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.


Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Postal Code:
Phone Number:

Hope to read from you soon.

Thanks


Gut feeling its a scam of some sort.

Anyone?

Ive not replied to this email yet.

Then they'll send you a check, for more than you agreed on. Then
they'll say -- "oh, could you refund us the extra". Then you'll wait a
day or two for the check to 'clear' the bank and (if you're stupid)
you'll send them money.

Then, a week or so later, you'll be on the road to finding out that
while US law demands that your bank make the funds in a check
_available_ to you within three (or two, or something) days, they don't
actually put the bank on the hook for _verifying_ that the funds really
are there that quickly. So when the check bounces the bank will
(perfectly legally) suck that money right out of your account, and
you'll be stuck high and dry. Maybe you'll even have spent it already,
and you'll be stuck with bounced check fees for all the checks you wrote
on that nice shiny money you got.

It's a common scam -- Iggy's posted about it, and I've read about it
elsewhere. I'm kinda glad that I just sell my expertise -- someone like
that wouldn't be able to make a job for me look real without doing a lot
more work than it's worth (assuming there's enough fools out there).

So how do you suggest I **** this guy over? Or should I reserve that
sort of thing for after the holidays?


Give him the address of the local police department.


--
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scientist!!!

On 2010-12-08, Joe AutoDrill wrote:
Please provide the info to him. I'm betting the "bank certified check"
comes in with a postal code from Benin.

Do not bet, because you would be wrong. The check will come from the
USA.

I received several such checks (of course, I never cashed any).

If you want, message me and I'll give you my info to give to him.
I'm trying to hone my "interpret the English translation to
determine the country of origin" skills and this sounds like the
semi-broken English you would hear from Benin, Togo, or Ghana with
my gut telling me it is Benin.

Most of those guys are in or near Lagos.

i

Rich Grise wrote:

Ignoramus18826 wrote:

Actually very simple, accept his check (but do not cash it, just
receive it in the mail) and then tell him that you wired the money.

If you get a check and it turns out to be good, why not just do the
deal?


Hey, dumb ass! If he saw the ad on a local Craigslist why would he
have to ask:

Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Postal Code:
Phone Number:


This scam has been going on for years, maybe a decade to hook idiots
like you. If it was a legitimate it wouldn't use a cookie cutter
scammer script. I get the damn things from people wanting to 'Buy from
your company', then they ask for the URL of my business website. I don't
have a company, or a business website.


--
For the last time: I am not a mad scientist, I'm just a very ticked off
scientist!!!

On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 17:08:32 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

So how do you suggest I **** this guy over? Or should I reserve that
sort of thing for after the holidays?

I strongly suggest that you do nothing, Gunner. If you try to pull a
reverse of it on the guy and get caught, YOU go to jail, not him.

Treat him like a scammer/spammer/troll and do not answer his posts at
all, ever. Whenever anyone does, it only encourages them. That's why
this group is overloaded on a daily basis. It's not only the original
posting scum, it's the stupid replies by everyone else who can't
resist. Just Say No, and LET IT GO!


P.S: Got a small box of Tula yesterday. Stocked!

--
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On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 22:33:53 -0800, Rich Grise
wrote:

So, send him your name and mailing address, which are pretty much public
knowledge anyway, and if you get a check, take it to the bank, and if it
clears and the bank says, "Yes, you actually have those dollars now,"
contact the guy and have him come and pick it up. Or ship it, or whatever
the terms are.

Some of these scammers are in touch with other scammers here in the
USA, who WILL physically pick up the item in question. Do you really
want to screw with one and face the retaliation that one of his
buddies could inflict? Don't be stupid.

--
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--Jack London

"Ignoramus13521" wrote in message
...
On 2010-12-08, Joe AutoDrill wrote:
Please provide the info to him. I'm betting the "bank certified check"
comes in with a postal code from Benin.

Do not bet, because you would be wrong. The check will come from the
USA.

I received several such checks (of course, I never cashed any).

The one time I baited the guy and received a fake bank check, it was
literally mailed from Benin. I eventually replied back that I am a Sicilian
American with ties to the Mafia and that we were on our way to visit Benin,
track him down and make him pay for the embarassment we experienced at our
bank... I received many apologies from the contact and we talked for a few
weeks until he realized I was yanking his chain.

....That was when I had free time in my life.

Regards,
Joe Agro, Jr.
(800) 871-5022
01.908.542.0244
Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com
Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com
Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/
Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com
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On 12/07/2010 05:08 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 07 Dec 2010 16:18:58 -0800, Tim
wrote:

On 12/07/2010 03:00 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..





Hello,
Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me with the below information, So that i can quickly send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.


Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Postal Code:
Phone Number:

Hope to read from you soon.

Thanks


Gut feeling its a scam of some sort.

Anyone?

Ive not replied to this email yet.

Then they'll send you a check, for more than you agreed on. Then
they'll say -- "oh, could you refund us the extra". Then you'll wait a
day or two for the check to 'clear' the bank and (if you're stupid)
you'll send them money.

Then, a week or so later, you'll be on the road to finding out that
while US law demands that your bank make the funds in a check
_available_ to you within three (or two, or something) days, they don't
actually put the bank on the hook for _verifying_ that the funds really
are there that quickly. So when the check bounces the bank will
(perfectly legally) suck that money right out of your account, and
you'll be stuck high and dry. Maybe you'll even have spent it already,
and you'll be stuck with bounced check fees for all the checks you wrote
on that nice shiny money you got.

It's a common scam -- Iggy's posted about it, and I've read about it
elsewhere. I'm kinda glad that I just sell my expertise -- someone like
that wouldn't be able to make a job for me look real without doing a lot
more work than it's worth (assuming there's enough fools out there).

So how do you suggest I **** this guy over? Or should I reserve that
sort of thing for after the holidays?

You can't, really. Ignore him and let him go after other prey. Bottom
feeders eat what's available -- deny them as much food as you can.

If you're really feeling diligent check with your local cops and see if
they're interested in pursuing it, or if they know who would be -- if
they're nice they'll probably tell you that they (and whoever has the
authority to pursue this stuff) is inundated with bigger problems, and
are expending their efforts trying to keep violent assholes off the
streets, so small-time scams just aren't on your radar.

As mentioned, if you try to scam him back then _you're_ the one
committing mail fraud. Justice being blind means that even if you're on
the side of Truth, Justice and The American Way, if you commit crimes
and make life easy for the prosecutors (by documenting your exploits on
the web, say), then _you'll_ be the one contributing to their next
raise, not the bozo trying to pry money out of you.

--

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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
In response to my craigslist ad for the 1 ton electric hoists..





Hello,
Thanks for your response and i am very sorry for been so long
replying, I really want to buy the item and i am very greatfull that
you said it is still available. I'm ok with the price and condition. I
am paying you with a bank certified check and when you received the
check and cash it. We can arrange for the pick-up then. Quickly get
back to me with the below information, So that i can quickly send
the check out to you to make fast transaction.


Name:
Address:
City:
State:
Postal Code:
Phone Number:

Hope to read from you soon.

Thanks


Gut feeling its a scam of some sort.

Anyone?

Ive not replied to this email yet.

Gunner

Yes, I got one, saying he would pay me more than what I wanted for an item.
He wanted a lot of information to send me a check, and that upon receipt of
the check, he would send someone to pick the item up, as he was out of town
traveling. The English was questionably broken. I did a google search for
the return company, and read about lots of craigslist scams, and those
stupid enough to bite on them.

Steve

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