http://www.wimp.com/reliantrobin/

I thought that looked unstable.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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..

On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:16:21 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:


http://www.wimp.com/reliantrobin/

Look at
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...-60-years.html

3-wheelers have been around for years.

Cheers,

Brice

"Stormin Mormon" wrote...

http://www.wimp.com/reliantrobin/

I thought that looked unstable.

--

Having been passenger in one around the winding lanes of Wales... Damn Right
they're unstable!

If building a 3-wheeler, put the single wheel *at the back*, or it'll lift
the inside rear if you touch the brakes in a bend, famous for it...

At least they're light enough to turn back over onto the wheels, assuming
the fibreglass body hasn't dissapeared in a blizzard of scraps.

The Robin is in a loophole in UK motoring law, being light enough (and
having few enough wheels) to qualify as a motorcycle, so they were popular
in the 50's - 70's with people who had a bike licence but not car licence,
and they attracted lower "road tax" fees and used very little petrol so were
a good economic prospect for the family man on a very tight budget who
otherwise would have been out in the breeze (and typically the rain, this
being England) on a bike and sidecar outfit - nobody would touch 'em
otherwise

They're also the standard butt-of-joke in motoring-related comedy, Jasper
Carrot made a career of knocking 'em

Dave H.
--
(The engineer formerly known as Homeless)

"Rules are for the obedience of fools, and the guidance of wise men" -
Douglas Bader

On Nov 25, 10:45*pm, "Dave H."
wrote:
"Stormin Mormon" wrote...

* *http://www.wimp.com/reliantrobin/

I thought that looked unstable.

--

Having been passenger in one around the winding lanes of Wales... Damn Right
they're unstable!

If building a 3-wheeler, put the single wheel *at the back*, or it'll lift
the inside rear if you touch the brakes in a bend, famous for it...

At least they're light enough to turn back over onto the wheels, assuming
the fibreglass body hasn't dissapeared in a blizzard of scraps.

The Robin is in a loophole in UK motoring law, being light enough (and
having few enough wheels) to qualify as a motorcycle, so they were popular
in the 50's - 70's with people who had a bike licence but not car licence,
and they attracted lower "road tax" fees and used very little petrol so were
a good economic prospect for the family man on a very tight budget who
otherwise would have been out in the breeze (and typically the rain, this
being England) on a bike and sidecar outfit - nobody would touch 'em
otherwise

They're also the standard butt-of-joke in motoring-related comedy, Jasper
Carrot made a career of knocking 'em

Dave H.
--
(The engineer formerly known as Homeless)

"Rules are for the obedience of fools, and the guidance of wise men" -
Douglas Bader

Mr. Bean hated them too.
Karl

On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:16:21 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:


http://www.wimp.com/reliantrobin/

I thought that looked unstable.


ROFLMAO!!!!

Absolutely fascinating!! I laughed all the way through it!!

--
"Confiscating wealth from those who have earned it, inherited it,
or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
caused by some people having more money than others, just as obesity
isn't caused by McDonald's serving super-sized orders of French fries
Poverty, like obesity, is caused by the life choices that dictate
results." - John Tucci,

On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 02:51:46 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Nov 25, 10:45*pm, "Dave H."
wrote:

They're also the standard butt-of-joke in motoring-related comedy, Jasper
Carrot made a career of knocking 'em

Mr. Bean hated them too.

This guy? http://www.funtoosh.com/jokes/garam_masala/572

--
Education should provide the tools for a widening and deepening
of life, for increased appreciation of all one sees or experiences.
It should equip a person to live life well, to understand what is
happening around him, fo to live life well one must live life with
awareness. -- Louis L'Amour

On 11/26/2010 12:45 AM, Dave H. wrote:
"Stormin Mormon" wrote...

http://www.wimp.com/reliantrobin/

I thought that looked unstable.

--

Having been passenger in one around the winding lanes of Wales... Damn Right
they're unstable!

If building a 3-wheeler, put the single wheel *at the back*, or it'll lift
the inside rear if you touch the brakes in a bend, famous for it...

Every time I see one of those I start totting up the manufacturing cost
of a differential vs. two undriven wheels in front, and I wonder _why_
they went and made the damn things that way. I suppose they were
stressing rear seat capacity over anything resembling handling, but still...

I thought it was a hilarious sendup, even if I've never seen one in
person, much less ridden in it.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written for you.
See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html

On 11/27/2010 6:24 AM, Tim Wescott wrote:

Every time I see one of those I start totting up the manufacturing cost
of a differential vs. two undriven wheels in front, and I wonder _why_
they went and made the damn things that way.

I think the Reliant started as a commercial type vehicle, so load
carrying capacity dictated an axle and two wheels at the rear. The
Messerschmidt 3-wheeler on the other hand, grew out of an invalid car -
transport for post-WW2 German injured servicemen. Both were built to a
low price initially, so losing a wheel made sense then.
Apart from handling problems, having 3 tracks makes avoiding potholes
etc difficult. Like Morgan did, a move to 4 wheels and only 2 tracks is
the right way, but driven within their limitations, 3 wheelers look like
fun.

On 11/26/2010 08:38 PM, Jordan wrote:
On 11/27/2010 6:24 AM, Tim Wescott wrote:

Every time I see one of those I start totting up the manufacturing cost
of a differential vs. two undriven wheels in front, and I wonder _why_
they went and made the damn things that way.

I think the Reliant started as a commercial type vehicle, so load
carrying capacity dictated an axle and two wheels at the rear. The
Messerschmidt 3-wheeler on the other hand, grew out of an invalid car -
transport for post-WW2 German injured servicemen. Both were built to a
low price initially, so losing a wheel made sense then.
Apart from handling problems, having 3 tracks makes avoiding potholes
etc difficult. Like Morgan did, a move to 4 wheels and only 2 tracks is
the right way, but driven within their limitations, 3 wheelers look like
fun.

In a lot of jurisdictions a 3 wheeler counts as a motorcycle, even if it
is functionally more like a car. So there's advantages of taxes and
relaxed regulations.

I hadn't considered the pothole angle.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written for you.
See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html

On Nov 25, 3:16*pm, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:
* *http://www.wimp.com/reliantrobin/

I thought that looked unstable.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
*www.lds.org
.

That was funny!

I like the trainer wheels. Should have kept trying that fix. Wider and
beefier.

On Nov 26, 2:36*am, Larry Jaques
wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 02:51:46 -0800 (PST), "

wrote:
On Nov 25, 10:45 pm, "Dave H."
wrote:
They're also the standard butt-of-joke in motoring-related comedy, Jasper
Carrot made a career of knocking 'em

Mr. Bean hated them too.

This guy? *http://www.funtoosh.com/jokes/garam_masala/572

--
Education should provide the tools for a widening and deepening
of life, for increased appreciation of all one sees or experiences.
It should equip a person to live life well, to understand what is
happening around him, fo to live life well one must live life with
awareness. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Louis L'Amour

Yep

On Nov 26, 2:36*am, Larry Jaques
wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 02:51:46 -0800 (PST), "

wrote:
On Nov 25, 10:45 pm, "Dave H."
wrote:
They're also the standard butt-of-joke in motoring-related comedy, Jasper
Carrot made a career of knocking 'em

Mr. Bean hated them too.

This guy? *http://www.funtoosh.com/jokes/garam_masala/572

--
Education should provide the tools for a widening and deepening
of life, for increased appreciation of all one sees or experiences.
It should equip a person to live life well, to understand what is
happening around him, fo to live life well one must live life with
awareness. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Louis L'Amour

It would help if posted the link before sending.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II1U-85lzkQ

On Nov 26, 7:12*pm, Tim Wescott wrote:
On 11/26/2010 08:38 PM, Jordan wrote:

On 11/27/2010 6:24 AM, Tim Wescott wrote:

Every time I see one of those I start totting up the manufacturing cost
of a differential vs. two undriven wheels in front, and I wonder _why_
they went and made the damn things that way.

I think the Reliant started as a commercial type vehicle, so load
carrying capacity dictated an axle and two wheels at the rear. The
Messerschmidt 3-wheeler on the other hand, grew out of an invalid car -
transport for post-WW2 German injured servicemen. Both were built to a
low price initially, so losing a wheel made sense then.
Apart from handling problems, having 3 tracks makes avoiding potholes
etc difficult. Like Morgan did, a move to 4 wheels and only 2 tracks is
the right way, but driven within their limitations, 3 wheelers look like
fun.

In a lot of jurisdictions a 3 wheeler counts as a motorcycle, even if it
is functionally more like a car. *So there's advantages of taxes and
relaxed regulations.

I hadn't considered the pothole angle.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Serviceshttp://www.wescottdesign.com

Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written for you.
See details athttp://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html

Morgan's making 3 wheelers again.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...-60-years.html
Karl

wrote:
On Nov 26, 7:12 pm, Tim Wescott wrote:

On 11/26/2010 08:38 PM, Jordan wrote:


On 11/27/2010 6:24 AM, Tim Wescott wrote:

Every time I see one of those I start totting up the manufacturing cost
of a differential vs. two undriven wheels in front, and I wonder _why_
they went and made the damn things that way.

I think the Reliant started as a commercial type vehicle, so load
carrying capacity dictated an axle and two wheels at the rear. The
Messerschmidt 3-wheeler on the other hand, grew out of an invalid car -
transport for post-WW2 German injured servicemen. Both were built to a
low price initially, so losing a wheel made sense then.
Apart from handling problems, having 3 tracks makes avoiding potholes
etc difficult. Like Morgan did, a move to 4 wheels and only 2 tracks is
the right way, but driven within their limitations, 3 wheelers look like
fun.

In a lot of jurisdictions a 3 wheeler counts as a motorcycle, even if it
is functionally more like a car. So there's advantages of taxes and
relaxed regulations.

I hadn't considered the pothole angle.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Serviceshttp://www.wescottdesign.com

Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written for you.
See details athttp://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html


Morgan's making 3 wheelers again.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...-60-years.html
Karl

Seems they may be making what the Seattle based company
http://cycle-car.com/index.htm has been building under license in the US.

On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 15:38:30 +1100, Jordan wrote:

On 11/27/2010 6:24 AM, Tim Wescott wrote:

Every time I see one of those I start totting up the manufacturing cost
of a differential vs. two undriven wheels in front, and I wonder _why_
they went and made the damn things that way.

I think the Reliant started as a commercial type vehicle, so load
carrying capacity dictated an axle and two wheels at the rear. The
Messerschmidt 3-wheeler on the other hand, grew out of an invalid car -
transport for post-WW2 German injured servicemen. Both were built to a
low price initially, so losing a wheel made sense then.
Apart from handling problems, having 3 tracks makes avoiding potholes
etc difficult. Like Morgan did, a move to 4 wheels and only 2 tracks is
the right way, but driven within their limitations, 3 wheelers look like
fun.


Back in the 1950's both Diahatsu and Mazda built three wheel pickups
for the Japanese market. Extremely common, in fact I doubt whether I
ever saw a 4 wheel pickup size truck during the 10 years I spent
there.

Cheers,

John B.

On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 01:22:18 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

On Nov 26, 2:36*am, Larry Jaques
wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 02:51:46 -0800 (PST), "

wrote:
On Nov 25, 10:45 pm, "Dave H."
wrote:
They're also the standard butt-of-joke in motoring-related comedy, Jasper
Carrot made a career of knocking 'em

Mr. Bean hated them too.

This guy? *http://www.funtoosh.com/jokes/garam_masala/572

--
Education should provide the tools for a widening and deepening
of life, for increased appreciation of all one sees or experiences.
It should equip a person to live life well, to understand what is
happening around him, fo to live life well one must live life with
awareness. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Louis L'Amour

It would help if posted the link before sending.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II1U-85lzkQ

Strike Two! "The video you have requested is not available.

If you have recently uploaded this video, you may need to wait a few
minutes for the video to process. "

--
Education should provide the tools for a widening and deepening
of life, for increased appreciation of all one sees or experiences.
It should equip a person to live life well, to understand what is
happening around him, for to live life well one must live life with
awareness. -- Louis L'Amour

"Jordan" wrote in message
ond.com...
On 11/27/2010 6:24 AM, Tim Wescott wrote:

Every time I see one of those I start totting up the manufacturing cost
of a differential vs. two undriven wheels in front, and I wonder _why_
they went and made the damn things that way.

I think the Reliant started as a commercial type vehicle, so load carrying
capacity dictated an axle and two wheels at the rear. The Messerschmidt
3-wheeler on the other hand, grew out of an invalid car - transport for
post-WW2 German injured servicemen. Both were built to a low price
initially, so losing a wheel made sense then.
Apart from handling problems, having 3 tracks makes avoiding potholes etc
difficult. Like Morgan did, a move to 4 wheels and only 2 tracks is the
right way, but driven within their limitations, 3 wheelers look like fun.

Here's the original one, which might explain why they stuck with the layout

http://www.3wheelers.com/relarch.html

Film buffs might recall the strong-man's vehicle in Fellini's La Strada,
which I think might have been based on a Harley Davidson

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:16:21 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:


http://www.wimp.com/reliantrobin/

Princess Anne had one? I don't think so. She got nicked for speeding in a
Scimitar GTE, which was rather a different animal......

On 11/28/2010 6:04 AM, newshound wrote:

Here's the original one, which might explain why they stuck with the layout

http://www.3wheelers.com/relarch.html

Film buffs might recall the strong-man's vehicle in Fellini's La Strada,
which I think might have been based on a Harley Davidson



A curious thing about the Reliant I think - they made their own engine
to suit the car. It was all-aluminium, and looked a lot like an
Austin/Morris but only 750cc. They are sometimes seen now in home made
specials.

Speaking of 3 wheelers in movies - seen The Party, with Peter Sellers
driving a Morgan in the final scenes?

On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:08:12 -0000, "newshound"
wrote:



"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:16:21 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:


http://www.wimp.com/reliantrobin/

Princess Anne had one? I don't think so. She got nicked for speeding in a
Scimitar GTE, which was rather a different animal......


I believe she DID have a little Robin before the scimitar

It was a Robin Super Saloon, purchased by Anne while she was at
Sandringham Academy.

On Nov 27, 3:36*am, Larry Jaques
wrote:
On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 01:22:18 -0800 (PST), "



wrote:
On Nov 26, 2:36*am, Larry Jaques
wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 02:51:46 -0800 (PST), "

wrote:
On Nov 25, 10:45 pm, "Dave H."
wrote:
They're also the standard butt-of-joke in motoring-related comedy, Jasper
Carrot made a career of knocking 'em

Mr. Bean hated them too.

This guy? *http://www.funtoosh.com/jokes/garam_masala/572

--
Education should provide the tools for a widening and deepening
of life, for increased appreciation of all one sees or experiences.
It should equip a person to live life well, to understand what is
happening around him, fo to live life well one must live life with
awareness. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Louis L'Amour

It would help if posted the link before sending.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II1U-85lzkQ

Strike Two! *"The video you have requested is not available.

If you have recently uploaded this video, you may need to wait a few
minutes for the video to process. "

--
Education should provide the tools for a widening and deepening
of life, for increased appreciation of all one sees or experiences.
It should equip a person to live life well, to understand what is
happening around him, for to live life well one must live life with
awareness. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Louis L'Amour

Works*now.*This*is*the*search*term*to*put*in*youtu be.
Mr Bean - Reliant Robin Crash, first ever

On Nov 27, 12:08*am, David Billington
wrote:
wrote:
On Nov 26, 7:12 pm, Tim Wescott wrote:

On 11/26/2010 08:38 PM, Jordan wrote:

On 11/27/2010 6:24 AM, Tim Wescott wrote:

Every time I see one of those I start totting up the manufacturing cost
of a differential vs. two undriven wheels in front, and I wonder _why_
they went and made the damn things that way.

I think the Reliant started as a commercial type vehicle, so load
carrying capacity dictated an axle and two wheels at the rear. The
Messerschmidt 3-wheeler on the other hand, grew out of an invalid car -
transport for post-WW2 German injured servicemen. Both were built to a
low price initially, so losing a wheel made sense then.
Apart from handling problems, having 3 tracks makes avoiding potholes
etc difficult. Like Morgan did, a move to 4 wheels and only 2 tracks is
the right way, but driven within their limitations, 3 wheelers look like
fun.

In a lot of jurisdictions a 3 wheeler counts as a motorcycle, even if it
is functionally more like a car. *So there's advantages of taxes and
relaxed regulations.

I hadn't considered the pothole angle.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Serviceshttp://www.wescottdesign.com

Do you need to implement control loops in software?
"Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written for you.
See details athttp://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html

Morgan's making 3 wheelers again.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/...c-car-firm-Mor...
Karl

Seems they may be making what the Seattle based companyhttp://cycle-car.com/index.htmhas been building under license in the US.

Maybe*they're*doing*the*construction*for*Morgan.*T here's*nothing*on*the*Morgan*site*about*the*3*whee lers.*I've*only*seen*stuff*about*them*in*the*newsp apers.
Thanks
Karl
Karl

On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 18:16:21 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:


http://www.wimp.com/reliantrobin/

I thought that looked unstable.
========
But see the US version of the Morgan 3 wheeler..
http://cycle-car.com/



-- Unka George (George McDuffee)
...............................
The past is a foreign country;
they do things differently there.
L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author.
The Go-Between, Prologue (1953).