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I recently met someone who is a big fan of these and showed me his
collection of them. It's a nice and simple way to store and use
electrical extension cords:
http://www.cordpro.com/video.html
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On Nov 25, 12:09*am, "Denis G." wrote:
I recently met someone who is a big fan of these and showed me his
collection of them. *It's a nice and simple way to store and use
electrical extension cords:http://www.cordpro.com/video.html


Cute idea but not space-efficient.

I coil cords like climbing rope and secure them with Velcro wraps.
http://www.textol.com/t_ties.asp
That way several long ones can hang on a peg, instead of taking up
shelf space like reeled cords, which don't stack well.

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I recently met someone who is a big fan of these and showed me his
collection of them. *It's a nice and simple way to store and use
electrical extension cords:http://www.cordpro.com/video.html


I recently started storing my seemingle endless supply of extensions
like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaEv9wm6gy0
They hang on a hook, and are always ready to go and tangleproof.
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I recently met someone who is a big fan of these and showed me his
collection of them. It's a nice and simple way to store and use
electrical extension cords:
http://www.cordpro.com/video.html


That was immediately added to my Amazon Wish List. I've been looking
for something which wouldn't break the first time it was dropped from
waist height. sigh I'm really tired of winding my cord into a
contractor's weave. I wonder if they'll someday make one which fits a
10/3 100' cord...

Thanks for the heads-up, Denis.

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On Nov 25, 12:09*am, "Denis G." wrote:
I recently met someone who is a big fan of these and showed me his
collection of them. *It's a nice and simple way to store and use
electrical extension cords:http://www.cordpro.com/video.html


Cute idea but not space-efficient.


Much more efficient than a contractor's weave, and not that ungodly
mess every time it's coiled. I get the same mess whether it's coiled
left (correct-handed) or right-handed.


I coil cords like climbing rope and secure them with Velcro wraps.
http://www.textol.com/t_ties.asp
That way several long ones can hang on a peg, instead of taking up
shelf space like reeled cords, which don't stack well.


So coil what you want and use a CordPro for the most-used cord.

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I recently met someone who is a big fan of these and showed me his
collection of them. *It's a nice and simple way to store and use
electrical extension cords:http://www.cordpro.com/video.html


Cute idea but not space-efficient.

I coil cords like climbing rope and secure them with Velcro wraps.http://www.textol.com/t_ties.asp
That way several long ones can hang on a peg, instead of taking up
shelf space like reeled cords, which don't stack well.

jsw


I think that they're space efficient, but maybe we have different
standards. I think that they're more time efficient because the
storage to use-time is cut down. The product was reviewed by a
boating magazine and they liked it. Many people who use boats are
also concerned with saving space. (However, I'd be worried about
grabbing one of these instead of a life-preserver in an
emergency. )
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On Nov 25, 12:09*am, "Denis G." wrote:

I recently met someone who is a big fan of these and showed me his
collection of them. *It's a nice and simple way to store and use
electrical extension cords:http://www.cordpro.com/video.html


I recently started storing my seemingle endless supply of extensions
like this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaEv9wm6gy0
They hang on a hook, and are always ready to go and tangleproof.


That's a cool method for storing and using cords, but it seems like a
bit of work. Maybe with practice it would become second-nature.
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I recently met someone who is a big fan of these and showed me his
collection of them. *It's a nice and simple way to store and use
electrical extension cords:
http://www.cordpro.com/video.html


That was immediately added to my Amazon Wish List. *I've been looking
for something which wouldn't break the first time it was dropped from
waist height. *sigh *I'm really tired of winding my cord into a
contractor's weave. *I wonder if they'll someday make one which fits a
10/3 100' cord...

Thanks for the heads-up, Denis.

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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Minna Thomas Antrim


If they make one that stores 100' of 10/3 cord, maybe you could use it
as a emergency spare tire for your truck. g
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On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:09:34 -0800 (PST), "Denis G."


wrote:
I recently met someone who is a big fan of these and showed me his
collection of them. *It's a nice and simple way to store and use
electrical extension cords:
http://www.cordpro.com/video.html


That was immediately added to my Amazon Wish List. *I've been looking
for something which wouldn't break the first time it was dropped from
waist height. *sigh *I'm really tired of winding my cord into a
contractor's weave. *I wonder if they'll someday make one which fits a
10/3 100' cord...


Thanks for the heads-up, Denis.


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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Minna Thomas Antrim


If they make one that stores 100' of 10/3 cord, maybe you could use it
as a emergency spare tire for your truck. g- Hide quoted text -

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I bought two at a tool show about ten years ago. I love using mine. I
hang it on a nail above the outlet I use for yard work, take it down
for uses. A CAUTION!! for entended time uses, unwind completly, heat
builds up inside the case.
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*I wonder if they'll someday make one which fits a
10/3 100' cord...


Thanks for the heads-up, Denis.


If they make one that stores 100' of 10/3 cord, maybe you could use it
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I bought two at a tool show about ten years ago. I love using mine. I
hang it on a nail above the outlet I use for yard work, take it down
for uses. A CAUTION!! for entended time uses, unwind completly, heat
builds up inside the case.


Rightio! Never use a wire in a coil. The electrons get heated up
going around and around in circles and that's -not- a good thing.

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... I wonder if they'll someday make one which fits a
10/3 100' cord...


Extra large:
http://www.cordpro.com/cpxl.html

150' 12/3, 100' 10/3, or 60' 3/8 _air hose_
16" dia, 4-1/2" deep, $35

I could use a couple, if it wasn't $35. Maybe HF could get a Chinese
supplier to make them.

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I recently started storing my seemingle endless supply of extensions
like this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaEv9wm6gy0
They hang on a hook, and are always ready to go and tangleproof.


That's a cool method for storing and using cords, but it seems like a
bit of work. Maybe with practice it would become second-nature.


I agree, with the cool & bit-of-work parts. It's also not clear whether
it would hang as well/compactly as plain looped cord.

When I loop cords I get about 6' per loop, taking 17 loops to do 100'.
The technique on the video took about 24 "loops", so maybe a little
slower. Much more convenient when un-looping though - I always have to
be so careful about playing out to avoid tangles.

Bottom line for me: it's worth a try.

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Cute idea but not space-efficient.

I coil cords ...
That way several long ones can hang on a peg, instead of taking up
shelf space like reeled cords, ...


The OP's reels could be hung on pegs, using lanyards.

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On Nov 25, 12:09 am, "Denis wrote:
I recently met someone who is a big fan of these and showed me his
collection of them. It's a nice and simple way to store and use
electrical extension cords:http://www.cordpro.com/video.html


I recently started storing my seemingle endless supply of extensions
like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaEv9wm6gy0
They hang on a hook, and are always ready to go and tangleproof.


I tried that and actually got a 'knot' wrong.
It stowed in loops properly but refused to
'deploy'. Once I untangled the hung loop,
subsequent loops deployed smoothly. I still don't
know how I did that incorrectly.

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On Wed, 24 Nov 2010 21:09:34 -0800 (PST), "Denis G."


wrote:
I recently met someone who is a big fan of these and showed me his
collection of them. *It's a nice and simple way to store and use
electrical extension cords:
http://www.cordpro.com/video.html


That was immediately added to my Amazon Wish List. *I've been looking
for something which wouldn't break the first time it was dropped from
waist height. *sigh *I'm really tired of winding my cord into a
contractor's weave. *I wonder if they'll someday make one which fits a
10/3 100' cord...


Thanks for the heads-up, Denis.


--
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* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * -- Minna Thomas Antrim


If they make one that stores 100' of 10/3 cord, maybe you could use it
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I *bought two at a tool show about ten years ago. I love using mine. I
hang it on a nail above the outlet I use for yard work, take it down
for uses. A CAUTION!! for entended time uses, unwind completly, heat
builds up inside the case.- Hide quoted text -

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The guy who introduced me to these also warned me of this, but he said
that it was a problem only if you are drawing heavy current (i.e. near
capacity of the cord). He does the same as you, and unreels more cord
as necessary.


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... * I wonder if they'll someday make one which fits a
10/3 100' cord...


Extra large:http://www.cordpro.com/cpxl.html

150' 12/3, 100' 10/3, or 60' 3/8 _air hose_
16" dia, 4-1/2" deep, $35

I could use a couple, if it wasn't $35. Maybe HF could get a Chinese
supplier to make them.

Bob


They are a bit expensive. I was thinking of making some from some 10"
HF pneumatic tires or discarded snowblower tires. I haven't decided
if it's the best use of my time, thought.
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electric cords
Much more efficient than a contractor's weave, and not that ungodly
mess every time it's coiled. I get the same mess whether it's coiled
left (correct-handed) or right-handed.


I've found a left/right coil works pretty well.

Starts like any coiling, but every second coil is twisted underneath,
not just laid on top. Hard to explain, but easy to do. Won't solve
all problems but the best I've found so far.
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I've found a left/right coil works pretty well.

Starts like any coiling, but every second coil is twisted underneath,
not just laid on top. Hard to explain, but easy to do. Won't solve
all problems but the best I've found so far.


How to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPRI...eature=related
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Larry Jaques wrote:

... I wonder if they'll someday make one which fits a
10/3 100' cord...


Extra large:
http://www.cordpro.com/cpxl.html

150' 12/3, 100' 10/3, or 60' 3/8 _air hose_
16" dia, 4-1/2" deep, $35

I could use a couple, if it wasn't $35. Maybe HF could get a Chinese
supplier to make them.


Yeah, that price is the killer. I'll ask HF tomorrow or Saturday and
let you know.

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On Nov 25, 8:57*am, "Denis G." wrote:
On Nov 25, 6:49*am, rangerssuck wrote:

On Nov 25, 12:09*am, "Denis G." wrote:


I recently met someone who is a big fan of these and showed me his
collection of them. *It's a nice and simple way to store and use
electrical extension cords:http://www.cordpro.com/video.html


I recently started storing my seemingle endless supply of extensions
like this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaEv9wm6gy0
They hang on a hook, and are always ready to go and tangleproof.


That's a cool method for storing and using cords, but it seems like a
bit of work. *Maybe with practice it would become second-nature.


Yes and yes. It really doesn't take any extra time to do, once you get
the hang of it. You can make the loops as big as you want, also, so it
doesn't have to take a lot of loops. I have a 150' 12/3 cord done up
like this, and it hangs fine. You can also double it up to hang - it's
damn near impossible to tangle.

The big advantage to this, vs coiling, is that it doesn't put twist
into the cord. I know about "figure 8" coiling, and doing one loop in
back and one loop in front, but I could never do those consistently
well. Also with this methid, you can unloop just as much as you need,
and have some of each end available.

Anyway, I recommend that you give it a try. The CordPro gadget looks
pretty good, too, but kinda pricey.

Now, after watching that video, youtube suggested watching the one
about two-scond teeshirt folding. THAT, I have been doing for a couple
of years. It's really cool, and really takes a couple of seconds to
get your shirts folded neatly, with the front showing - so you don't
have to guess whether it has a pocket or a grease stain or something
nasty printed on it that you wouldn't want to wear to a customer.
Either way, that's a video worth watching, and a cool way to fold a
shirt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An0mFZ3enhM


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Denis G. wrote:
On Nov 25, 6:49 am, rangerssuck wrote:
I recently started storing my seemingle endless supply of extensions
like this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaEv9wm6gy0
They hang on a hook, and are always ready to go and tangleproof.


That's a cool method for storing and using cords, but it seems like a
bit of work. Maybe with practice it would become second-nature.


I agree, with the cool & bit-of-work parts. It's also not clear whether
it would hang as well/compactly as plain looped cord.


A 100' cord done in the contractor's weave, that leaves a thick mass
about ten feet long. I'm getting tired of it. g


When I loop cords I get about 6' per loop, taking 17 loops to do 100'.
The technique on the video took about 24 "loops", so maybe a little
slower. Much more convenient when un-looping though - I always have to
be so careful about playing out to avoid tangles.

Bottom line for me: it's worth a try.


I just looked at the shipping weight of the cordpro cp-100 and they're
only a pound. I wonder about their durability now. I'll definitely
want to see and feel one before purchase.

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rangerssuck wrote:
On Nov 25, 12:09 am, "Denis wrote:
I recently met someone who is a big fan of these and showed me his
collection of them. It's a nice and simple way to store and use
electrical extension cords:http://www.cordpro.com/video.html


I recently started storing my seemingle endless supply of extensions
like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaEv9wm6gy0
They hang on a hook, and are always ready to go and tangleproof.


I tried that and actually got a 'knot' wrong.
It stowed in loops properly but refused to
'deploy'. Once I untangled the hung loop,
subsequent loops deployed smoothly. I still don't
know how I did that incorrectly.


Familiarity breeds competence, Pooh.

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electric cords
Much more efficient than a contractor's weave, and not that ungodly
mess every time it's coiled. I get the same mess whether it's coiled
left (correct-handed) or right-handed.


I've found a left/right coil works pretty well.

Starts like any coiling, but every second coil is twisted underneath,
not just laid on top. Hard to explain, but easy to do. Won't solve
all problems but the best I've found so far.


It's stupid simple - simply do a figure-eight, and the coil doesn't
twist.

Cheers!
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rangerssuck wrote:
On Nov 25, 12:09 am, "Denis wrote:
I recently met someone who is a big fan of these and showed me his
collection of them. It's a nice and simple way to store and use
electrical extension cords:http://www.cordpro.com/video.html

I recently started storing my seemingle endless supply of extensions
like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaEv9wm6gy0
They hang on a hook, and are always ready to go and tangleproof.


I tried that and actually got a 'knot' wrong.
It stowed in loops properly but refused to
'deploy'. Once I untangled the hung loop,
subsequent loops deployed smoothly. I still don't
know how I did that incorrectly.


Familiarity breeds competence, Pooh.


Thanks to Mssr. Engelhardt I have something which will reward
familiarity:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPRI...eature=related

YES! Can't wait to try that. Thanks Bob!

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dan wrote:
I've found a left/right coil works pretty well.

Starts like any coiling, but every second coil is twisted underneath,
not just laid on top. Hard to explain, but easy to do. Won't solve
all problems but the best I've found so far.


How to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPRI...eature=related



This is the method I and virtually eveyone I know does cables.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaEv9wm6gy0

Gunner

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Almost all stranded electrical wire and cables have a twist manufactured
into them. This can be seen when the jacket is stripped from a cord (or
insulation from a single stranded wire), and the twist is nearly always
clockwise.
When one tries to roll up cables (like air hose), the natural twist should
be considered, and repeated.
The longest life of a cable will result from the cable being coiled
following it's natural twist.

When one uses any number of different methods that go against the natural
twist of the cord, they stress the individual wire strands.

My usual method is to start with an end in my left hand, with the end toward
my body.. then twist as needed to form coils in a clockwise direction.. same
as a RH thread.
This method doesn't work in a confined space, the cable needs to be layed
out, with space to shake the abnormal twist out of a cable, and not a
tangled up rat's nest.
A right-handed version of this method would be to hold an end in the right
hand, with the end pointing away, and twisting the cable as needed to form
coils in a counter-clockwise direction.. same as a RH thread.
This method works easily and perfectly for any length of power cord,
extension cords or even multi-cabled video cables. The coils lay flat
against each other and the coil doesn't try to unwind itself from the
tension created by backward-wound twists.
When commercial video cables cost more than $10-20 per foot, it is practical
to treat them well.

When one uses the hand-and-back-of-upper-arm (palm to tricept area) to wind
up a typical extension cord, the cord will generally form a figure-8 when
it's removed from the arm.. this is because the natural (manufactured) twist
was ignored.

The chain-of-loops that's popular with contractors is copied mainly because
that's the way contractors do it (IMO).. they saw it on a TV show, so it
must be for a good reason.
Bull****.. the method is neither time-saving or practical. The individual
strands are stressed.. the huge "systematically tangled wad" of cable isn't
compact, and will be a chain of snags for anything placed near it.. tools,
ground stakes, limbs, etc.

I had a difficult time coiling garden hose when I was a kid.. I just
couldn't get the hang of it (those old multi-layer real rubber and woven
reinforcement cord types).. I suppose people that have trouble coiling
extension cords probably couldn't coil a garden hose without a reel or a
wall hanger to hang it on as they gather it up.

A few cables don't have a manufactured twist.. coaxial cable, for example.
The stranded center conductor will be twisted, but the braided shield
generally won't be.

When fishing reels are loaded with fresh line, an experienced angler will
repeat the manufactured twist of the line as it was put on the spool at the
factory, to eliminate line twist (tension) which will foul new line
quickly.. as soon as the tension of the backward-wound line is relaxed, it
starts deforming resulting in the formation of long helix tails in lengths
of line.

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My usual method is to start with an end in my left hand, with the end
toward my body.. then twist as needed to form coils in a clockwise

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
direction.. ...


Ah, but that's the "rub", as they used to say. Each loop of cable
requires a 1/4 turn of twist in order to lay flat. In a 100' cable it
adds up and you are constantly shaking it out to be able to twist more.
Then, when it's uncoiled for use, all that twist likes to make kinks.

That's what the figure-8 or alternate left-right avoids.

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You're correct about the twists, although each single loop may not need
twisted as the cable is coiled.. unless the cable was layed out with
absolutely no twist.

I wasn't specifically criticising the alternating left-right method, but
there's really no beneficial reason for the popular chain-of-loops method..
I thought it was stupid when I was shown it 20 years ago, and still do.

I understand that the alternating left-right method works, and is most
likely a very quick method for long cables.. so if I had to deal with 100'
lengths frequently, I'd definitely use it.. as it is, the majority of cables
I use are usually under 30'.

I tend to lay cables out flat, so others won't catch the cables on their
feet as they walk around, as that will definitely cause a lot of damage to
cables and connectors (time consuming and expensive replacement connectors
on equipment).

FWIW, I don't like dealing with twisting while pulling romex out of a coil
in a box.. instead, I made a spool and stand to put fresh 250' rolls of
romex on, so it can be payed out flat/no twists. With straight, flat romex,
it pulls/feeds very easily thru nominally small sized holes without hanging
up.

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My usual method is to start with an end in my left hand, with the end
toward my body.. then twist as needed to form coils in a clockwise

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
direction.. ...


Ah, but that's the "rub", as they used to say. Each loop of cable
requires a 1/4 turn of twist in order to lay flat. In a 100' cable it
adds up and you are constantly shaking it out to be able to twist more.
Then, when it's uncoiled for use, all that twist likes to make kinks.

That's what the figure-8 or alternate left-right avoids.

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FWIW, I don't like dealing with twisting while pulling romex out of a
coil in a box.. instead, I made a spool and stand to put fresh 250'
rolls of romex on, so it can be payed out flat/no twists. With straight,
flat romex, it pulls/feeds very easily thru nominally small sized holes
without hanging up.


Me too. For me, it's just that I don't like the way the twisted wire
looks. I'm just a bit obsessive-compulsive.

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Wild_Bill wrote:

(...)

My usual method is to start with an end in my left hand, with the end
toward my body.. then twist as needed to form coils in a clockwise
direction.. same as a RH thread.


LH thread, yes?

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... but there's really no beneficial reason for the popular
chain-of-loops method.. I thought it was stupid when I was shown it
20 years ago, and still do.


A long series of loops doesn't get shuffled out of order the way a
concentric stack of loops will. Pull the chain apart, and it all comes
undone without knots in it.
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Yes sir, you are correct.
I was jumping around in that post editing various segments and lost my train
of.. huh? What was the question, again?

I'm glad you caught that, and thanks for mentioning it.
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Wild_Bill wrote:

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My usual method is to start with an end in my left hand, with the end
toward my body.. then twist as needed to form coils in a clockwise
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LH thread, yes?

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On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 03:58:59 -0800, Gunner Asch
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On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:44:17 -0500, Bob Engelhardt
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dan wrote:
I've found a left/right coil works pretty well.

Starts like any coiling, but every second coil is twisted underneath,
not just laid on top. Hard to explain, but easy to do. Won't solve
all problems but the best I've found so far.


How to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPRI...eature=related



This is the method I and virtually eveyone I know does cables.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaEv9wm6gy0

Gunner

When I bought my first 100 footer, my neighbour tried to convince me
that I should do it that way. I still do the old six foot loops and a
couple wraps around the middle then toss it over the bar in the shed.
Mind you I only use it twenty or thirty times per year but I am still
using that same cord.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
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Gerald Miller wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 03:58:59 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:44:17 -0500, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:

dan wrote:
I've found a left/right coil works pretty well.

Starts like any coiling, but every second coil is twisted underneath,
not just laid on top. Hard to explain, but easy to do. Won't solve
all problems but the best I've found so far.

How to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPRI...eature=related



This is the method I and virtually eveyone I know does cables.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaEv9wm6gy0

Gunner

When I bought my first 100 footer, my neighbour tried to convince me
that I should do it that way. I still do the old six foot loops and a
couple wraps around the middle then toss it over the bar in the shed.
Mind you I only use it twenty or thirty times per year but I am still
using that same cord.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada


This afternoon, I tried the method Bob cited:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPRI...eature=related

I could deploy by hanging on to one end and
tossing the extension just like it shows in
the video. It fell straight out without
tangling! Thassa good tip!

--Winston
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Winston wrote:
Gerald Miller wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 03:58:59 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:44:17 -0500, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:

dan wrote:
I've found a left/right coil works pretty well.

Starts like any coiling, but every second coil is twisted underneath,
not just laid on top. Hard to explain, but easy to do. Won't solve
all problems but the best I've found so far.

How to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPRI...eature=related


This is the method I and virtually eveyone I know does cables.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaEv9wm6gy0

Gunner

When I bought my first 100 footer, my neighbour tried to convince me
that I should do it that way. I still do the old six foot loops and a
couple wraps around the middle then toss it over the bar in the shed.
Mind you I only use it twenty or thirty times per year but I am still
using that same cord.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada


This afternoon, I tried the method Bob cited:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPRI...eature=related

I could deploy by hanging on to one end and
tossing the extension just like it shows in
the video. It fell straight out without
tangling! Thassa good tip!

--Winston



That's the way we stow halyards and anchor rodes.
Works great on lone lines.

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On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 21:33:13 -0500, Gerald Miller
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On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 03:58:59 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:44:17 -0500, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:

dan wrote:
I've found a left/right coil works pretty well.

Starts like any coiling, but every second coil is twisted underneath,
not just laid on top. Hard to explain, but easy to do. Won't solve
all problems but the best I've found so far.

How to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPRI...eature=related



This is the method I and virtually eveyone I know does cables.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaEv9wm6gy0

Gunner

When I bought my first 100 footer, my neighbour tried to convince me
that I should do it that way. I still do the old six foot loops and a
couple wraps around the middle then toss it over the bar in the shed.
Mind you I only use it twenty or thirty times per year but I am still
using that same cord.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada



Whatever works best for you.

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or got lucky is never going to help 'the poor.' Poverty isn't
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CaveLamb wrote:
Winston wrote:
Gerald Miller wrote:
On Fri, 26 Nov 2010 03:58:59 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Nov 2010 17:44:17 -0500, Bob Engelhardt
wrote:

dan wrote:
I've found a left/right coil works pretty well.

Starts like any coiling, but every second coil is twisted underneath,
not just laid on top. Hard to explain, but easy to do. Won't solve
all problems but the best I've found so far.

How to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPRI...eature=related


This is the method I and virtually eveyone I know does cables.....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaEv9wm6gy0

Gunner
When I bought my first 100 footer, my neighbour tried to convince me
that I should do it that way. I still do the old six foot loops and a
couple wraps around the middle then toss it over the bar in the shed.
Mind you I only use it twenty or thirty times per year but I am still
using that same cord.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada


This afternoon, I tried the method Bob cited:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GiPRI...eature=related

I could deploy by hanging on to one end and
tossing the extension just like it shows in
the video. It fell straight out without
tangling! Thassa good tip!

--Winston



That's the way we stow halyards and anchor rodes.
Works great on lone lines.


I could'a asked the sailor in the group years ago.
But Noooooo I had to *struggle* first.

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