My horrible fright quality wire stripper has worn out... Its a pliers
action that clamps then brings two blades on the wire before pulling.
For stripping #22 to #28 wire, what's a good unit?

I'm in love with the D-sub crimper DoN put me on to. I used to tin the
ends of very small wire before putting in a terminal strip. Today, I
just crimped D-sub pins on. Quicker and better than tinning. But, made
me wonder, is there a crimp product made just for terminal strip
insertion?

Karl

On Nov 21, 10:48*am, Karl Townsend
wrote:
My horrible fright quality wire stripper has worn out... Its a pliers
action that clamps then brings two blades on the wire before pulling.
For stripping #22 to #28 wire, what's a good unit?

Paladin makes a pliers-type gizmo that works well; pricey, though.

http://www.stanleysupplyservices.com...ct-group.aspx?
id=5475&pn=412-158

I usually use the pliers-type with ground notches and spring opening
(Diamond WS7E is the make and model I like best), but you have to
protect the edges (it has to go in a holster so the sharp bits don't
get
dinged in the tool pile).

On Nov 21, 1:48*pm, Karl Townsend
wrote:
My horrible fright quality wire stripper has worn out... Its a pliers
action that clamps then brings two blades on the wire before pulling.
For stripping #22 to #28 wire, what's a good unit?
...
Karl

http://www.swaintools.com/store/pc/c...reStripper.jpg

jsw

On 11/21/2010 1:48 PM, Karl Townsend wrote:
My horrible fright quality wire stripper has worn out... Its a pliers
action that clamps then brings two blades on the wire before pulling.
For stripping #22 to #28 wire, what's a good unit?


I have stripped about a zillion wire ends in the past half century. I
have used the pliers type and the circle type and any other type that
fell across the bench. I now use a thermal stripper or plain old scissor
type strippers. If you need a crutch when stripping insulation try no-niks:

http://assets.twacomm.com/assets/pdf/7133.pdf


I'm in love with the D-sub crimper DoN put me on to. I used to tin the
ends of very small wire before putting in a terminal strip. Today, I
just crimped D-sub pins on. Quicker and better than tinning. But, made
me wonder, is there a crimp product made just for terminal strip
insertion?

It is not considered good practice to tin stranded wire for insertion
into a terminal block. The solder cold flows and the connection loosens,
and the solder/wire intersection forms a brittle stress point.


Kevin Gallimore

"Karl Townsend" wrote in message
...
My horrible fright quality wire stripper has worn out... Its a pliers
action that clamps then brings two blades on the wire before pulling.
For stripping #22 to #28 wire, what's a good unit?

I'm in love with the D-sub crimper DoN put me on to. I used to tin the
ends of very small wire before putting in a terminal strip. Today, I
just crimped D-sub pins on. Quicker and better than tinning. But, made
me wonder, is there a crimp product made just for terminal strip
insertion?

Karl

I used to strip 30ga wires for wire wrapping and found that Clauss
No-Nik wire strippers were the best thing going and the only
stripper that would do teflon insulation other than a thermal stripper.
http://www.twacomm.com/catalog/model_NN008.htm
They always worked and never nicked a wire. Highly recommended.
Art

On Nov 21, 7:24*pm, "Artemus" wrote:
"Karl Townsend" wrote in message

...

My horrible fright quality wire stripper has worn out... Its a pliers
action that clamps then brings two blades on the wire before pulling.
For stripping #22 to #28 wire, what's a good unit?

I'm in love with the D-sub crimper DoN put me on to. I used to tin the
ends of very small wire before putting in a terminal strip. Today, I
just crimped D-sub pins on. Quicker and better than tinning. But, made
me wonder, is there a crimp product made just for terminal strip
insertion?

Karl

I used to strip 30ga wires for wire wrapping and found that Clauss
No-Nik wire strippers were the best thing going and the only
stripper that would do teflon insulation other than a thermal stripper.http://www.twacomm.com/catalog/model_NN008.htm
They always worked and never nicked a wire. *Highly recommended.
Art

Second that. Their only minor problem is in stripping to exact length.

jsw

"axolotl" wrote in message
...
On 11/21/2010 1:48 PM, Karl Townsend wrote:
My horrible fright quality wire stripper has worn out... Its a pliers
action that clamps then brings two blades on the wire before pulling.
For stripping #22 to #28 wire, what's a good unit?


I have stripped about a zillion wire ends in the past half century. I have
used the pliers type and the circle type and any other type that fell
across the bench. I now use a thermal stripper or plain old scissor type
strippers. If you need a crutch when stripping insulation try no-niks:

http://assets.twacomm.com/assets/pdf/7133.pdf


I'm in love with the D-sub crimper DoN put me on to. I used to tin the
ends of very small wire before putting in a terminal strip. Today, I
just crimped D-sub pins on. Quicker and better than tinning. But, made
me wonder, is there a crimp product made just for terminal strip
insertion?

It is not considered good practice to tin stranded wire for insertion into
a terminal block. The solder cold flows and the connection loosens, and
the solder/wire intersection forms a brittle stress point.


Kevin Gallimore


Bootlace ferrules make for a neat job.

http://cse-distributors.co.uk/cabmgmt/bootlace.htm

On 2010-11-21, Karl Townsend wrote:
My horrible fright quality wire stripper has worn out... Its a pliers
action that clamps then brings two blades on the wire before pulling.
For stripping #22 to #28 wire, what's a good unit?

I'm in love with the D-sub crimper DoN put me on to.

I thought that you would be, once you used it. :-)

I used to tin the
ends of very small wire before putting in a terminal strip. Today, I
just crimped D-sub pins on. Quicker and better than tinning. But, made
me wonder, is there a crimp product made just for terminal strip
insertion?

Which kind of terminal strip? Forked terminals are good for
strips like the Jones Barrier strips. The best are the kind (AMP makes
them, of course) which have little bulges on the tips so you can snap
them over the loosened screw shank, and wait until you have one or two
more snapped in place before tightening.

Now -- I've seen crimp on terminals for the kind of strip which
normally accepts bare wire -- but I don't know where to get them. They
were of the Type-F (flag) crimp -- similar to but not identical to the
D-sub terminals. Probably AMP/Tyco makes them, but you would need an
industrial catalog to find them -- and then the trick is to find the
right crimper at eBay prices. :-)

Good Luck,
DoN.

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On 2010-11-21, Karl Townsend wrote:
On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:32:08 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:48:18 -0600, Karl Townsend
wrote:

My horrible fright quality wire stripper has worn out... Its a pliers
action that clamps then brings two blades on the wire before pulling.
For stripping #22 to #28 wire, what's a good unit?

[ ... ]

The one above..assuming the wire size is proper..should be on your list
of things to purchase.

[ ... ]

Will these work well on extremely small stranded wire, like #28. I
thought the bigger units would cut off a few of these very fine wires
when stripping.

The nicest one for the smaller sizes is one which looks similar,
but the brand is "Nickless" and it has two blue plastic insert blades
from a turret dispenser. (I hope that they are still made -- I may need
more blades soon. :-)

Enjoy,
DoN.

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....
Bootlace ferrules make for a neat job.

http://cse-distributors.co.uk/cabmgmt/bootlace.htm


BINGO!

I didn't know what to call them, Digikey stocks all sorts.

http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...me=288-1003-ND
DoN, I need another crimper. Would you bring up the data sheet on the
above item and tell me which crimper to go for?

Karl

"Karl Townsend" wrote in message
news
...
Bootlace ferrules make for a neat job.

http://cse-distributors.co.uk/cabmgmt/bootlace.htm


BINGO!

I didn't know what to call them, Digikey stocks all sorts.

http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...me=288-1003-ND
DoN, I need another crimper. Would you bring up the data sheet on the
above item and tell me which crimper to go for?

Karl


Don'll know the ones!

My personsal preference is to use a crimper that folds the lug in on itself
length-ways rather than the ones that do square corrugated crimp (horribly
vague description!)like this:

http://vk1od.net/module/dc/bootlace.jpg

Sorry I couldn't find a picture of the crimp style that I prefer. The jaws
that do it may be a bit like this:

http://techno.com.my/online/images/ken515-6200k.jpg

Make sure to fit the smallest ferrule that will just slide over the wire. If
they are a little loose sometimes twisting the wires with your fingers will
increase the diameter just enough for a snug fit.

Stranded wire crimp terminals are available in pin-style tips with insulated
collars, which are the same crimp sizes as the more common red/blue/yellow
crimp terminals.

http://www.alliedelec.com/search/pro...px?SKU=3810857

These pin terminals can be used in DIN rail strips or most connections that
accept bare stranded or solid wire ends.
Some connecting blocks won't accept multiple pin-style wire terminals, and
if several side-by-side or random block positions are allocated for the same
electrical connection (several for ground, for example), the installer can
daisychain several connector block positions on the system side of the
connector block/DIN rail.

Standard quality crimping tools are generally acceptable for the pin-style
terminals.

Many/most electrical supplies distributors will stock the pin-style crimp
terminals, as thay're a common termination product in industrial systems.

--
WB
..........


"Karl Townsend" wrote in message
...
My horrible fright quality wire stripper has worn out... Its a pliers
action that clamps then brings two blades on the wire before pulling.
For stripping #22 to #28 wire, what's a good unit?

I'm in love with the D-sub crimper DoN put me on to. I used to tin the
ends of very small wire before putting in a terminal strip. Today, I
just crimped D-sub pins on. Quicker and better than tinning. But, made
me wonder, is there a crimp product made just for terminal strip
insertion?

Karl

On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 20:10:11 +0800, "Dennis"
wrote:


"Karl Townsend" wrote in message
news
...
Bootlace ferrules make for a neat job.

http://cse-distributors.co.uk/cabmgmt/bootlace.htm


BINGO!

I didn't know what to call them, Digikey stocks all sorts.

http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...me=288-1003-ND
DoN, I need another crimper. Would you bring up the data sheet on the
above item and tell me which crimper to go for?

Karl


Don'll know the ones!

My personsal preference is to use a crimper that folds the lug in on itself
length-ways rather than the ones that do square corrugated crimp (horribly
vague description!)like this:

http://vk1od.net/module/dc/bootlace.jpg

Sorry I couldn't find a picture of the crimp style that I prefer. The jaws
that do it may be a bit like this:

http://techno.com.my/online/images/ken515-6200k.jpg

Make sure to fit the smallest ferrule that will just slide over the wire. If
they are a little loose sometimes twisting the wires with your fingers will
increase the diameter just enough for a snug fit.

I bought a couple of these at work back when I was doing a lot of
enclosures.
http://www.weidmueller.com/73645/Pro.../cw_index.aspx

Plus a couple of these. Worked great, push to start, stopped
automatically at preset torque. It was on the company dime, though.
This url may wrap in some newsreaders.

http://catalog.weidmueller.com/proca...9&page=G roup

The instrument techs loved 'em. I managed to hang on to them until I
changed assignments.

Pete Keillor

On Nov 22, 6:27*am, Karl Townsend
wrote:
...

Bootlace ferrules make for a neat job.

http://cse-distributors.co.uk/cabmgmt/bootlace.htm

BINGO!

I didn't know what to call them, Digikey stocks all sorts.

http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...tail&name=288-....
DoN, I need another crimper. Would you bring up the data sheet on the
above item and tell me which crimper to go for?

Karl

The absolutely best way to do this is to ask the terminal manufacturer
which crimpers they approve. There are many that will get you close,
some even close enough, but if you want your crimps to be truly up to
spec, you need to use the crimper that is specd by the terminal
manufacturer.

On top of that, many crimpers have adjustments, and some of the
adjustment procedures are more complicated than you might think. We
used to have a factory guy from AMP come out periodically and adjust
our hand crimpers and the die sets on the automatic machines.

On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 05:27:58 -0600, Karl Townsend
wrote:

...
Bootlace ferrules make for a neat job.

http://cse-distributors.co.uk/cabmgmt/bootlace.htm


BINGO!

I didn't know what to call them, Digikey stocks all sorts.

http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...me=288-1003-ND
DoN, I need another crimper. Would you bring up the data sheet on the
above item and tell me which crimper to go for?

Karl


Automation Direct has the best prices on ferrules I've found, by far
-- 500 for $6 in the small sizes.
http://www.automationdirect.com/adc/...or_Single_Wire

I use a ferrule crimper made by Wago. I haven't tried Automation
Direct's crimper.
http://www.wago.us/products/2455.htm

--
Ned Simmons

axolotl wrote:
... If you need a crutch when stripping insulation try no-niks:

http://assets.twacomm.com/assets/pdf/7133.pdf
...

They look like they're the "real thing". But, each stripper is good for
one size only (and stranded is a different size from solid) and they are
$40 each. A set could cost you $400 and MIGHT be justified in a
professional context.

Bob

On 2010-11-22, Karl Townsend wrote:

[ ... ]

http://search.digikey.com/scripts/Dk...me=288-1003-ND
DoN, I need another crimper. Would you bring up the data sheet on the
above item and tell me which crimper to go for?

Done in private e-mail.

Enjoy,
DoN.

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