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No, not that kind of vice. I don't really drink, smoke or... well... Never
mind. Let's just get to the point here. This is the wood vice I have now. It works great except that sometimes I need to hold a part in it that requires the "jaws" to be taller. http://www.grizzly.com/products/Wood-Vise-6-/G8966 What happens is that the part hits the guide rods and screw mechanism at the bottom of the jaws and I can't properly hold the part. Does anyone know where I can get a wood vice with "taller" jaws? Otherwise, I may just make my own... Thank you for any help you can offer. If it matters, I already have a large metalworker's vice/anvil thing set-up. This one is used for smaller, more delicate work - mostly assembling brass fittings and pneumatic controls for the machines I sell. Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/ Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill FACEBOOK: http://tinyurl.com/AutoDrill-Facebook V8013-R |
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Joe AutoDrill wrote:
No, not that kind of vice. I don't really drink, smoke or... well... Never mind. Let's just get to the point here. This is the wood vice I have now. It works great except that sometimes I need to hold a part in it that requires the "jaws" to be taller. http://www.grizzly.com/products/Wood-Vise-6-/G8966 What happens is that the part hits the guide rods and screw mechanism at the bottom of the jaws and I can't properly hold the part. Does anyone know where I can get a wood vice with "taller" jaws? Otherwise, I may just make my own... Thank you for any help you can offer. If it matters, I already have a large metalworker's vice/anvil thing set-up. This one is used for smaller, more delicate work - mostly assembling brass fittings and pneumatic controls for the machines I sell. Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/ Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill FACEBOOK: http://tinyurl.com/AutoDrill-Facebook V8013-R How much taller do you need. That link shows a wood vise and has screw holes in the jaw plates typical of wood vises I've seen and used to fix jaw plates. Most I've seen used by wood workers have wooden jaws fitted to the metal jaw plates so can you make a set and extend them higher. |
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On 10/28/2010 10:57 AM, Joe AutoDrill wrote:
No, not that kind of vice. I don't really drink, smoke or... well... Never mind. Let's just get to the point here. This is the wood vice I have now. It works great except that sometimes I Sorry, I'm being compulsive today. You mean "vise", with an 'S'. Involving vises with your vices sounds scary. http://charliephillips.net/humor/ode...l-checker.html -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com Do you need to implement control loops in software? "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written for you. See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html |
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How much taller do you need. That link shows a wood vise and has screw
holes in the jaw plates typical of wood vises I've seen and used to fix jaw plates. Most I've seen used by wood workers have wooden jaws fitted to the metal jaw plates so can you make a set and extend them higher. That's option #2... Put some "extenders" on there... But I'd rather simply have a short and a tall wood vize. (That special spelling was for Tim Wescott's pleasure.) -- Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/ Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill FACEBOOK: http://tinyurl.com/AutoDrill-Facebook V8013-R |
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On 10/28/2010 01:44 PM, Joe AutoDrill wrote:
How much taller do you need. That link shows a wood vise and has screw holes in the jaw plates typical of wood vises I've seen and used to fix jaw plates. Most I've seen used by wood workers have wooden jaws fitted to the metal jaw plates so can you make a set and extend them higher. That's option #2... Put some "extenders" on there... But I'd rather simply have a short and a tall wood vize. (That special spelling was for Tim Wescott's pleasure.) Did it get by your spell checker :-) ? -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com Do you need to implement control loops in software? "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written for you. See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html |
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Joe AutoDrill wrote:
How much taller do you need. That link shows a wood vise and has screw holes in the jaw plates typical of wood vises I've seen and used to fix jaw plates. Most I've seen used by wood workers have wooden jaws fitted to the metal jaw plates so can you make a set and extend them higher. That's option #2... Put some "extenders" on there... But I'd rather simply have a short and a tall wood vize. (That special spelling was for Tim Wescott's pleasure.) Maybe just a bigger wood vise, do the jaws get taller as they get wider?. Regarding the spelling my UK dictionary gives it as "vise" or "vice" in US English, I'm in the UK. BTW I lived in the US for 12 years and grew up there from an early age and having moved back to the UK had to learn some new words, pronunciations, and usage but had the benefit of UK parents. Still took years to get over mentioning garbage cans, sidewalks, parking lots, etc, I still slip up occasionally. |
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On Oct 28, 10:57*am, "Joe AutoDrill" wrote:
... the wood vice I have now. *It works great except that sometimes I need to hold a part in it that requires the "jaws" to be taller. The dovetail-slide (machine) vise and rod guides (woodwork) vise have the common need to apply force near the screw. Otherwise, the slide binds. To get better working distance, the old solution was the 'leg vise' which had a hinge at the bottom (and didn't strictly keep the jaws parallel). Most common, nowadays, is to get a big Jorgensen clamp, (aka wooden handscrew) and hold it in the bench vise. There are hardware kits so you can make any size you like: http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=59472&cat=1,43838,47843 |
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On Oct 28, 2:44*pm, "Joe AutoDrill" wrote:
How much taller do you need. That link shows a wood vise and has screw holes in the jaw plates typical of *wood vises I've seen and used to fix jaw plates. Most I've seen used by wood workers have wooden jaws fitted to the metal jaw plates so can you make a set and extend them higher. That's option #2... *Put some "extenders" on there... *But I'd rather simply have a short and a tall wood vize. (That special spelling was for Tim Wescott's pleasure.) -- Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills:http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills:http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping:http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/ Flagship Site:http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com VIDEOS:http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill TWITTER:http://twitter.com/AutoDrill FACEBOOK:http://tinyurl.com/AutoDrill-Facebook V8013-R Don't know if there are any "taller" vises out there for woodworking. Usually you buy the vise or hardware kit and fabricate wood jaws to suit. Most guys don't take to iron jaws clamping their finished wooded parts. If the part is too big for the vise, that's what bench dogs and tail vises are for. That assumes you've got a full woodworker's type bench to work on this stuff. Otherwise, you can make-do like I do, get out the Workmate and round up the dogs and hold- downs for it. I've got the vise parts and screws, just haven't got anyplace big enough for a full bench. Stan |
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On Thu, 28 Oct 2010 14:25:59 -0700 (PDT), whit3rd wrote:
To get better working distance, the old solution was the 'leg vise' which had a hinge at the bottom (and didn't strictly keep the jaws parallel). Ah, the correct name! I just wasted ten minutes searching for "hinged vise" and "wooden vise". My dad built one back in the 70s. Worked great on large flat stuff which is what made it was for. Not worth a durn as a substitute for a bench vice though. -- William |
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On 2010-10-28, Joe AutoDrill wrote:
No, not that kind of vice. I don't really drink, smoke or... well... Never mind. Let's just get to the point here. This is the wood vice I have now. It works great except that sometimes I need to hold a part in it that requires the "jaws" to be taller. http://www.grizzly.com/products/Wood-Vise-6-/G8966 What happens is that the part hits the guide rods and screw mechanism at the bottom of the jaws and I can't properly hold the part. Does anyone know where I can get a wood vice with "taller" jaws? Have you looked at the Zyliss vise? I have one which I got some thirty years ago or so. (They have some extra features now, including the quick-release jaw.) It probably won't have as tight a grip as the grizzly above, because a lot of it appears to be precision cast aluminum, but it is pretty good for a lot of things. Check out: http://www.myhomeworkshop.com/zvise.html I don't use it often, but when I need it, nothing else that I have will do. (Among other things, it can mount on two ends of the workbench edge -- or a deck rail in need -- and grip something just a bit shorter than that workbench or rail. Otherwise, I may just make my own... Thank you for any help you can offer. If it matters, I already have a large metalworker's vice/anvil thing set-up. This one is used for smaller, more delicate work - mostly assembling brass fittings and pneumatic controls for the machines I sell. Hmm ... if you are using it to force metal fittings together it might not be strong enough. It is really made for woodwork. Good Luck, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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That's option #2... Put some "extenders" on there... But I'd rather
simply have a short and a tall wood vize. (That special spelling was for Tim Wescott's pleasure.) Did it get by your spell checker :-) ? Nope. But it was worth the harassment from Microsoft. -- Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/ Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill FACEBOOK: http://tinyurl.com/AutoDrill-Facebook V8013-R |
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Maybe just a bigger wood vise, do the jaws get taller as they get wider?.
Not that I've seen - at least in the Grizzly catalog. -- Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/ Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill FACEBOOK: http://tinyurl.com/AutoDrill-Facebook V8013-R |
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"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message
... On 2010-10-28, Joe AutoDrill wrote: No, not that kind of vice. I don't really drink, smoke or... well... Never mind. Let's just get to the point here. This is the wood vice I have now. It works great except that sometimes I need to hold a part in it that requires the "jaws" to be taller. http://www.grizzly.com/products/Wood-Vise-6-/G8966 What happens is that the part hits the guide rods and screw mechanism at the bottom of the jaws and I can't properly hold the part. Does anyone know where I can get a wood vice with "taller" jaws? Have you looked at the Zyliss vise? I have one which I got some thirty years ago or so. (They have some extra features now, including the quick-release jaw.) It probably won't have as tight a grip as the grizzly above, because a lot of it appears to be precision cast aluminum, but it is pretty good for a lot of things. Check out: http://www.myhomeworkshop.com/zvise.html I don't use it often, but when I need it, nothing else that I have will do. (Among other things, it can mount on two ends of the workbench edge -- or a deck rail in need -- and grip something just a bit shorter than that workbench or rail. My wife bought me one of those things, and I have used it off and on for about 15 years. Yeah, it "feels" light weight, but it does an awesome job for some things. I don't think its going to help with Joe's problem, but it's a cool tool to have when you need it. Years ago I snapped my bench vise trying to use it as a press to fix a u-joint for a buddy. The Zyliss got abused for two or three years for everything until I got around to buying a new bench vise. In fact even now it usually just gets set on the floor under the work bench when its not in use and in the way, because every time I actually put it away I have to get it right back out again. The plastic prismatic jaws are excellent for holding things like motorcycle down tubes when rebuilding a set of forks, and the regular jaws do a great job for just holding something in place. You know... it might help for Joe. I gotta go look at mine, but I think "square" materials set in it rest on the pins, and just above the screw. Also, the bottom and top of the jaws will both grip a uniform thickness work piece if none of the snap in jaws are used. |
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"Joe AutoDrill" wrote in message ... No, not that kind of vice. I don't really drink, smoke or... well... Never mind. Let's just get to the point here. This is the wood vice I have now. It works great except that sometimes I need to hold a part in it that requires the "jaws" to be taller. http://www.grizzly.com/products/Wood-Vise-6-/G8966 What happens is that the part hits the guide rods and screw mechanism at the bottom of the jaws and I can't properly hold the part. Does anyone know where I can get a wood vice with "taller" jaws? Otherwise, I may just make my own... Thank you for any help you can offer. If it matters, I already have a large metalworker's vice/anvil thing set-up. This one is used for smaller, more delicate work - mostly assembling brass fittings and pneumatic controls for the machines I sell. Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/ Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill FACEBOOK: http://tinyurl.com/AutoDrill-Facebook V8013-R How about something like this? https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/Pr...stockCode=V067 |
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How about something like this?
https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/Pr...stockCode=V067 Grumpy, That's nice... It's got too much holding power for what I need. The guys in the shop (including me) would break items too often with that baby... -- Regards, Joe Agro, Jr. (800) 871-5022 01.908.542.0244 Automatic / Pneumatic Drills: http://www.AutoDrill.com Multiple Spindle Drills: http://www.Multi-Drill.com Production Tapping: http://Production-Tapping-Equipment.com/ Flagship Site: http://www.Drill-N-Tap.com VIDEOS: http://www.youtube.com/user/AutoDrill TWITTER: http://twitter.com/AutoDrill FACEBOOK: http://tinyurl.com/AutoDrill-Facebook V8013-R |
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Joe AutoDrill wrote:
How about something like this? https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/Pr...stockCode=V067 Grumpy, That's nice... It's got too much holding power for what I need. The guys in the shop (including me) would break items too often with that baby... shorten the handle and hide all the pipes lying around/ John |
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On Sun, 21 Nov 2010 11:20:04 +1100, "Grumpy"
wrote: How about something like this? https://www.machineryhouse.com.au/Pr...stockCode=V067 I have had one of those for over 20 years, mounted on a steel workbench bolted to a wall. It has been thrashed when trying to remove rusted objects etc. highly recommended. Alan |
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