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Soda Blasting?
"RogerN" wrote in message m... For my crawl space mold problem I've heard the professional cleanup method is soda blasting. The worst areas are getting new wood but I'm planning to clean up areas that don't need the wood replaced. Do I need to get a "Soda Blaster" or can I just get a Harbor Freight pressurized abrasive blaster and fill it with baking soda? Just wondering how much difference there is between an "Abrasive Blaster" and a "Soda Blaster"? RogerN I've done a lot of soda blasting. You need a special setup or the soda will just run right out and the media cost will kill you. Baking soda, even the larger particles that you blast with, is way finer than black beauty or other typical media. The baking soda blaster also has some special fittings you will need to clear clogs that result from moisture. While it may be more healthy than using other types of blasting media, you can still do a number on your lungs with the soda storm you create. I think a crawlspace is the last place I'd want to blast. Consider using chemical solutions and a garden sprayer instead. |
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"ATP" wrote in message ... "RogerN" wrote in message m... For my crawl space mold problem I've heard the professional cleanup method is soda blasting. The worst areas are getting new wood but I'm planning to clean up areas that don't need the wood replaced. Do I need to get a "Soda Blaster" or can I just get a Harbor Freight pressurized abrasive blaster and fill it with baking soda? Just wondering how much difference there is between an "Abrasive Blaster" and a "Soda Blaster"? RogerN I've done a lot of soda blasting. You need a special setup or the soda will just run right out and the media cost will kill you. Baking soda, even the larger particles that you blast with, is way finer than black beauty or other typical media. The baking soda blaster also has some special fittings you will need to clear clogs that result from moisture. While it may be more healthy than using other types of blasting media, you can still do a number on your lungs with the soda storm you create. I think a crawlspace is the last place I'd want to blast. Consider using chemical solutions and a garden sprayer instead. I have some new 3M 7800s full face respirators with air supply hoses I bought on eBay, I bought mostly because of mold spores but should also keep baking soda out of lungs. I was originally wanting to blast the mold off with a pressure washer and a mold cleaning chemical. I heard this would blast where you didn't want including making stains on the carpet above. RogerN |
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"RogerN" wrote in message ... "ATP" wrote in message ... "RogerN" wrote in message m... For my crawl space mold problem I've heard the professional cleanup method is soda blasting. The worst areas are getting new wood but I'm planning to clean up areas that don't need the wood replaced. Do I need to get a "Soda Blaster" or can I just get a Harbor Freight pressurized abrasive blaster and fill it with baking soda? Just wondering how much difference there is between an "Abrasive Blaster" and a "Soda Blaster"? RogerN I've done a lot of soda blasting. You need a special setup or the soda will just run right out and the media cost will kill you. Baking soda, even the larger particles that you blast with, is way finer than black beauty or other typical media. The baking soda blaster also has some special fittings you will need to clear clogs that result from moisture. While it may be more healthy than using other types of blasting media, you can still do a number on your lungs with the soda storm you create. I think a crawlspace is the last place I'd want to blast. Consider using chemical solutions and a garden sprayer instead. I have some new 3M 7800s full face respirators with air supply hoses I bought on eBay, I bought mostly because of mold spores but should also keep baking soda out of lungs. I was originally wanting to blast the mold off with a pressure washer and a mold cleaning chemical. I heard this would blast where you didn't want including making stains on the carpet above. RogerN I agree, a pressure washer from below wouldn't be a good idea. |
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"RogerN" wrote: "ATP" wrote in message ... "RogerN" wrote in message m... For my crawl space mold problem I've heard the professional cleanup method is soda blasting. The worst areas are getting new wood but I'm planning to clean up areas that don't need the wood replaced. Do I need to get a "Soda Blaster" or can I just get a Harbor Freight pressurized abrasive blaster and fill it with baking soda? Just wondering how much difference there is between an "Abrasive Blaster" and a "Soda Blaster"? RogerN I've done a lot of soda blasting. You need a special setup or the soda will just run right out and the media cost will kill you. Baking soda, even the larger particles that you blast with, is way finer than black beauty or other typical media. The baking soda blaster also has some special fittings you will need to clear clogs that result from moisture. While it may be more healthy than using other types of blasting media, you can still do a number on your lungs with the soda storm you create. I think a crawlspace is the last place I'd want to blast. Consider using chemical solutions and a garden sprayer instead. I have some new 3M 7800s full face respirators with air supply hoses I bought on eBay, I bought mostly because of mold spores but should also keep baking soda out of lungs. I was originally wanting to blast the mold off with a pressure washer and a mold cleaning chemical. I heard this would blast where you didn't want including making stains on the carpet above. In a crawl space, is it necessary to physically remove the mold, or will killing it suffice? http://blackmold.awardspace.com/kill-remove-mold.html http://www.inspectapedia.com/sickhouse/cleanmold1.htm Joe Gwinn |
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"Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message ... In article , "RogerN" wrote: "ATP" wrote in message ... "RogerN" wrote in message m... For my crawl space mold problem I've heard the professional cleanup method is soda blasting. The worst areas are getting new wood but I'm planning to clean up areas that don't need the wood replaced. Do I need to get a "Soda Blaster" or can I just get a Harbor Freight pressurized abrasive blaster and fill it with baking soda? Just wondering how much difference there is between an "Abrasive Blaster" and a "Soda Blaster"? RogerN I've done a lot of soda blasting. You need a special setup or the soda will just run right out and the media cost will kill you. Baking soda, even the larger particles that you blast with, is way finer than black beauty or other typical media. The baking soda blaster also has some special fittings you will need to clear clogs that result from moisture. While it may be more healthy than using other types of blasting media, you can still do a number on your lungs with the soda storm you create. I think a crawlspace is the last place I'd want to blast. Consider using chemical solutions and a garden sprayer instead. I have some new 3M 7800s full face respirators with air supply hoses I bought on eBay, I bought mostly because of mold spores but should also keep baking soda out of lungs. I was originally wanting to blast the mold off with a pressure washer and a mold cleaning chemical. I heard this would blast where you didn't want including making stains on the carpet above. In a crawl space, is it necessary to physically remove the mold, or will killing it suffice? http://blackmold.awardspace.com/kill-remove-mold.html http://www.inspectapedia.com/sickhouse/cleanmold1.htm Joe Gwinn From what I've read, the "Toxic" black mold had spores that are harmful even if dead. Also, the information I have looked up on mold says it is everywhere but needs moisture to live and grow. From my understanding if you have a mold problem it's just a symptom of a moisture problem, the root cause. Tearing out the flooring in my bedroom will give me access to bad floor joists that need replaced and will also give me easier access to the crawl space for putting down a moisture barrier, sealing vents, and installing a sump pump and dehumidifier. RogerN |
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"RogerN" wrote in message news "Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message ... In article , "RogerN" wrote: "ATP" wrote in message ... "RogerN" wrote in message m... For my crawl space mold problem I've heard the professional cleanup method is soda blasting. The worst areas are getting new wood but I'm planning to clean up areas that don't need the wood replaced. Do I need to get a "Soda Blaster" or can I just get a Harbor Freight pressurized abrasive blaster and fill it with baking soda? Just wondering how much difference there is between an "Abrasive Blaster" and a "Soda Blaster"? RogerN I've done a lot of soda blasting. You need a special setup or the soda will just run right out and the media cost will kill you. Baking soda, even the larger particles that you blast with, is way finer than black beauty or other typical media. The baking soda blaster also has some special fittings you will need to clear clogs that result from moisture. While it may be more healthy than using other types of blasting media, you can still do a number on your lungs with the soda storm you create. I think a crawlspace is the last place I'd want to blast. Consider using chemical solutions and a garden sprayer instead. I have some new 3M 7800s full face respirators with air supply hoses I bought on eBay, I bought mostly because of mold spores but should also keep baking soda out of lungs. I was originally wanting to blast the mold off with a pressure washer and a mold cleaning chemical. I heard this would blast where you didn't want including making stains on the carpet above. In a crawl space, is it necessary to physically remove the mold, or will killing it suffice? http://blackmold.awardspace.com/kill-remove-mold.html http://www.inspectapedia.com/sickhouse/cleanmold1.htm Joe Gwinn From what I've read, the "Toxic" black mold had spores that are harmful even if dead. Also, the information I have looked up on mold says it is everywhere but needs moisture to live and grow. From my understanding if you have a mold problem it's just a symptom of a moisture problem, the root cause. Tearing out the flooring in my bedroom will give me access to bad floor joists that need replaced and will also give me easier access to the crawl space for putting down a moisture barrier, sealing vents, and installing a sump pump and dehumidifier. RogerN Home Depot has this stuff and rents the fogger out, I have no idea if it works, it sounds too good to be true: http://www.concrobium.com/ |
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On 2010-09-08, RogerN wrote:
From what I've read, the "Toxic" black mold had spores that are harmful even if dead. Also, the information I have looked up on mold says it is everywhere but needs moisture to live and grow. From my understanding if you have a mold problem it's just a symptom of a moisture problem, the root cause. Absolutely. Tearing out the flooring in my bedroom will give me access to bad floor joists that need replaced and will also give me easier access to the crawl space for putting down a moisture barrier, sealing vents, and installing a sump pump and dehumidifier. Just an exhaust fan and better drainage would probably help a lot. i |
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"Ignoramus10551" wrote in message ... On 2010-09-08, RogerN wrote: From what I've read, the "Toxic" black mold had spores that are harmful even if dead. Also, the information I have looked up on mold says it is everywhere but needs moisture to live and grow. From my understanding if you have a mold problem it's just a symptom of a moisture problem, the root cause. Absolutely. Tearing out the flooring in my bedroom will give me access to bad floor joists that need replaced and will also give me easier access to the crawl space for putting down a moisture barrier, sealing vents, and installing a sump pump and dehumidifier. Just an exhaust fan and better drainage would probably help a lot. i In researching this there are some ventilation systems that use sensors with fans to ventilate when the outside air would help dry the crawlspace and they close off when the outside air would bring more moisture into the crawl space. There is mold on the floor at the top of the crawl space, no where for moisture to come from except from the air condensing moisture on the cool crawlspace. I guess hot moist air entering a cool crawl space brings moisture in. RogerN |
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"RogerN" wrote: "Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message ... In article , "RogerN" wrote: "ATP" wrote in message ... "RogerN" wrote in message m... For my crawl space mold problem I've heard the professional cleanup method is soda blasting. The worst areas are getting new wood but I'm planning to clean up areas that don't need the wood replaced. Do I need to get a "Soda Blaster" or can I just get a Harbor Freight pressurized abrasive blaster and fill it with baking soda? Just wondering how much difference there is between an "Abrasive Blaster" and a "Soda Blaster"? RogerN I've done a lot of soda blasting. You need a special setup or the soda will just run right out and the media cost will kill you. Baking soda, even the larger particles that you blast with, is way finer than black beauty or other typical media. The baking soda blaster also has some special fittings you will need to clear clogs that result from moisture. While it may be more healthy than using other types of blasting media, you can still do a number on your lungs with the soda storm you create. I think a crawlspace is the last place I'd want to blast. Consider using chemical solutions and a garden sprayer instead. I have some new 3M 7800s full face respirators with air supply hoses I bought on eBay, I bought mostly because of mold spores but should also keep baking soda out of lungs. I was originally wanting to blast the mold off with a pressure washer and a mold cleaning chemical. I heard this would blast where you didn't want including making stains on the carpet above. In a crawl space, is it necessary to physically remove the mold, or will killing it suffice? http://blackmold.awardspace.com/kill-remove-mold.html http://www.inspectapedia.com/sickhouse/cleanmold1.htm Joe Gwinn From what I've read, the "Toxic" black mold had spores that are harmful even if dead. Also, the information I have looked up on mold says it is everywhere but needs moisture to live and grow. From my understanding if you have a mold problem it's just a symptom of a moisture problem, the root cause. Tearing out the flooring in my bedroom will give me access to bad floor joists that need replaced and will also give me easier access to the crawl space for putting down a moisture barrier, sealing vents, and installing a sump pump and dehumidifier. If you will take the floor out it's easier to remove the mold, but still people are exposed to dead mold all the time and are none the worse for it. But solving the underlying moisture problem is essential for sure. Joe Gwinn |
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"Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message ... In article , "RogerN" wrote: snip From what I've read, the "Toxic" black mold had spores that are harmful even if dead. Also, the information I have looked up on mold says it is everywhere but needs moisture to live and grow. From my understanding if you have a mold problem it's just a symptom of a moisture problem, the root cause. Tearing out the flooring in my bedroom will give me access to bad floor joists that need replaced and will also give me easier access to the crawl space for putting down a moisture barrier, sealing vents, and installing a sump pump and dehumidifier. If you will take the floor out it's easier to remove the mold, but still people are exposed to dead mold all the time and are none the worse for it. But solving the underlying moisture problem is essential for sure. Joe Gwinn I agree, I think it has to do with the amount you get, too much at once and it can make you sick. Anyway, we'll need the respirators while blasting but once the dust settles down and we get the baking soda & blasted mold picked up I don't think we'll need the respirators as much. RogerN |
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On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:33:33 -0400, Joseph Gwinn
wrote: In article , "RogerN" wrote: "Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message ... In article , "RogerN" wrote: "ATP" wrote in message ... "RogerN" wrote in message m... For my crawl space mold problem I've heard the professional cleanup method is soda blasting. The worst areas are getting new wood but I'm planning to clean up areas that don't need the wood replaced. Do I need to get a "Soda Blaster" or can I just get a Harbor Freight pressurized abrasive blaster and fill it with baking soda? Just wondering how much difference there is between an "Abrasive Blaster" and a "Soda Blaster"? RogerN I've done a lot of soda blasting. You need a special setup or the soda will just run right out and the media cost will kill you. Baking soda, even the larger particles that you blast with, is way finer than black beauty or other typical media. The baking soda blaster also has some special fittings you will need to clear clogs that result from moisture. While it may be more healthy than using other types of blasting media, you can still do a number on your lungs with the soda storm you create. I think a crawlspace is the last place I'd want to blast. Consider using chemical solutions and a garden sprayer instead. I have some new 3M 7800s full face respirators with air supply hoses I bought on eBay, I bought mostly because of mold spores but should also keep baking soda out of lungs. I was originally wanting to blast the mold off with a pressure washer and a mold cleaning chemical. I heard this would blast where you didn't want including making stains on the carpet above. In a crawl space, is it necessary to physically remove the mold, or will killing it suffice? http://blackmold.awardspace.com/kill-remove-mold.html http://www.inspectapedia.com/sickhouse/cleanmold1.htm Joe Gwinn From what I've read, the "Toxic" black mold had spores that are harmful even if dead. Also, the information I have looked up on mold says it is everywhere but needs moisture to live and grow. From my understanding if you have a mold problem it's just a symptom of a moisture problem, the root cause. Tearing out the flooring in my bedroom will give me access to bad floor joists that need replaced and will also give me easier access to the crawl space for putting down a moisture barrier, sealing vents, and installing a sump pump and dehumidifier. I'm having the house pesticided, my floor and beams under the house treated with TimBor, a vapor barrier put down, and insulation installed next week. The company doing it will take my ITEX barter bucks (80%, anyway), which I've saved up for a while now. I hate working under houses and with fiberglass, though the new stuff is far less itchy than the old. Luckily, I have no mold nor termites, but I may have some carpenter ants. If you will take the floor out it's easier to remove the mold, but still people are exposed to dead mold all the time and are none the worse for it. There are lots of different types of mold, Joe, but the toxic black stuff is much nastier than most. I choose to wear a respirator around lawn mowing, dust, sawdust, and -any- mold. I hope nobody with toxic black mold takes yours words to heart and disturbs it without respiratory protection. But solving the underlying moisture problem is essential for sure. Ayup. -- Happiness comes of the capacity to feel deeply, to enjoy simply, to think freely, to risk life, to be needed. -- Storm Jameson |
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Larry Jaques wrote: On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:33:33 -0400, Joseph Gwinn wrote: In article , "RogerN" wrote: "Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message ... In article , "RogerN" wrote: "ATP" wrote in message ... "RogerN" wrote in message m... For my crawl space mold problem I've heard the professional cleanup method is soda blasting. The worst areas are getting new wood but I'm planning to clean up areas that don't need the wood replaced. [snip] In a crawl space, is it necessary to physically remove the mold, or will killing it suffice? http://blackmold.awardspace.com/kill-remove-mold.html http://www.inspectapedia.com/sickhouse/cleanmold1.htm Joe Gwinn From what I've read, the "Toxic" black mold had spores that are harmful even if dead. Also, the information I have looked up on mold says it is everywhere but needs moisture to live and grow. From my understanding if you have a mold problem it's just a symptom of a moisture problem, the root cause. Tearing out the flooring in my bedroom will give me access to bad floor joists that need replaced and will also give me easier access to the crawl space for putting down a moisture barrier, sealing vents, and installing a sump pump and dehumidifier. I'm having the house pesticided, my floor and beams under the house treated with TimBor, a vapor barrier put down, and insulation installed next week. The company doing it will take my ITEX barter bucks (80%, anyway), which I've saved up for a while now. I hate working under houses and with fiberglass, though the new stuff is far less itchy than the old. Luckily, I have no mold nor termites, but I may have some carpenter ants. If you will take the floor out it's easier to remove the mold, but still people are exposed to dead mold all the time and are none the worse for it. There are lots of different types of mold, Joe, but the toxic black stuff is much nastier than most. I choose to wear a respirator around lawn mowing, dust, sawdust, and -any- mold. I hope nobody with toxic black mold takes yours words to heart and disturbs it without respiratory protection. When you say "toxic black mold", what species do you mean? I've handled lots of black mold, and are none the worse for it. That said, there are lots of mold species. Joe Gwinn |
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Joseph Gwinn wrote: In article , Larry Jaques wrote: On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:33:33 -0400, Joseph Gwinn wrote: In article , "RogerN" wrote: "Joseph Gwinn" wrote in message ... In article , "RogerN" wrote: "ATP" wrote in message ... "RogerN" wrote in message m... For my crawl space mold problem I've heard the professional cleanup method is soda blasting. The worst areas are getting new wood but I'm planning to clean up areas that don't need the wood replaced. [snip] In a crawl space, is it necessary to physically remove the mold, or will killing it suffice? http://blackmold.awardspace.com/kill-remove-mold.html http://www.inspectapedia.com/sickhouse/cleanmold1.htm Joe Gwinn From what I've read, the "Toxic" black mold had spores that are harmful even if dead. Also, the information I have looked up on mold says it is everywhere but needs moisture to live and grow. From my understanding if you have a mold problem it's just a symptom of a moisture problem, the root cause. Tearing out the flooring in my bedroom will give me access to bad floor joists that need replaced and will also give me easier access to the crawl space for putting down a moisture barrier, sealing vents, and installing a sump pump and dehumidifier. I'm having the house pesticided, my floor and beams under the house treated with TimBor, a vapor barrier put down, and insulation installed next week. The company doing it will take my ITEX barter bucks (80%, anyway), which I've saved up for a while now. I hate working under houses and with fiberglass, though the new stuff is far less itchy than the old. Luckily, I have no mold nor termites, but I may have some carpenter ants. If you will take the floor out it's easier to remove the mold, but still people are exposed to dead mold all the time and are none the worse for it. There are lots of different types of mold, Joe, but the toxic black stuff is much nastier than most. I choose to wear a respirator around lawn mowing, dust, sawdust, and -any- mold. I hope nobody with toxic black mold takes yours words to heart and disturbs it without respiratory protection. When you say "toxic black mold", what species do you mean? I've handled lots of black mold, and are none the worse for it. That said, there are lots of mold species. Some people aren't bothered by it, while other people get quite sick, or die. -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. |
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On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:54:02 -0400, Joseph Gwinn
wrote: In article , Larry Jaques wrote: There are lots of different types of mold, Joe, but the toxic black stuff is much nastier than most. I choose to wear a respirator around lawn mowing, dust, sawdust, and -any- mold. I hope nobody with toxic black mold takes yours words to heart and disturbs it without respiratory protection. When you say "toxic black mold", what species do you mean? I've handled lots of black mold, and are none the worse for it. That said, there are lots of mold species. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stachybotrys , the one you need state- level licensing to remove. -- Happiness comes of the capacity to feel deeply, to enjoy simply, to think freely, to risk life, to be needed. -- Storm Jameson |
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Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:54:02 -0400, Joseph Gwinn wrote: In article , Larry Jaques wrote: There are lots of different types of mold, Joe, but the toxic black stuff is much nastier than most. I choose to wear a respirator around lawn mowing, dust, sawdust, and -any- mold. I hope nobody with toxic black mold takes yours words to heart and disturbs it without respiratory protection. When you say "toxic black mold", what species do you mean? I've handled lots of black mold, and are none the worse for it. That said, there are lots of moldspecies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stachybotrys , the one you need state- level licensing to remove. I had heard of this genus. Are you duly licensed? There must be a set of approved removal methods. Joe Gwinn |
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:16:42 -0400, Joseph Gwinn
wrote: In article , Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:54:02 -0400, Joseph Gwinn wrote: In article , Larry Jaques wrote: There are lots of different types of mold, Joe, but the toxic black stuff is much nastier than most. I choose to wear a respirator around lawn mowing, dust, sawdust, and -any- mold. I hope nobody with toxic black mold takes yours words to heart and disturbs it without respiratory protection. When you say "toxic black mold", what species do you mean? I've handled lots of black mold, and are none the worse for it. That said, there are lots of moldspecies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stachybotrys , the one you need state- level licensing to remove. I had heard of this genus. Are you duly licensed? There must be a set of approved removal methods. No, I went as far as the contractor's licencing, but I refuse to be involved with the (totally bogus) asbestos, (nearly bogus) lead abatement, or (usually just a bother, but can be really nasty) mold removal bull****. You need a lifetime apprenticing in electric to get a Sparky license here; ditto the plumbing add-on, with steam/pipefitting a whole lot more additional on top of that. When I finished studying the license prep book (476 pages, 8.5x11") I shook my head in amazement that they didn't require hands-on experience or test for _any_ building code knowledge. It's a political/regulatory thing, I guess. But to ask for as much as a penny from someone for repairs inside their home, one has to have a full contractor's license. Go figure. I can't even do hose-bib-connected _drip_ irrigation without additional licensing, if you can believe that. Suckage. Having done nearly all my (and my friends' and family's) electrical, plumbing, irrigation, and building since about age 6, I resent that. -- Happiness comes of the capacity to feel deeply, to enjoy simply, to think freely, to risk life, to be needed. -- Storm Jameson |
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Larry Jaques wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:16:42 -0400, Joseph Gwinn wrote: In article , Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 22:54:02 -0400, Joseph Gwinn wrote: In article , Larry Jaques wrote: There are lots of different types of mold, Joe, but the toxic black stuff is much nastier than most. I choose to wear a respirator around lawn mowing, dust, sawdust, and -any- mold. I hope nobody with toxic black mold takes yours words to heart and disturbs it without respiratory protection. When you say "toxic black mold", what species do you mean? I've handled lots of black mold, and are none the worse for it. That said, there are lots of moldspecies. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stachybotrys , the one you need state- level licensing to remove. I had heard of this genus. Are you duly licensed? There must be a set of approved removal methods. No, I went as far as the contractor's licencing, but I refuse to be involved with the (totally bogus) asbestos, (nearly bogus) lead abatement, or (usually just a bother, but can be really nasty) mold removal bull****. You need a lifetime apprenticing in electric to get a Sparky license here; ditto the plumbing add-on, with steam/pipefitting a whole lot more additional on top of that. When I finished studying the license prep book (476 pages, 8.5x11") I shook my head in amazement that they didn't require hands-on experience or test for _any_ building code knowledge. It's a political/regulatory thing, I guess. But to ask for as much as a penny from someone for repairs inside their home, one has to have a full contractor's license. Go figure. I can't even do hose-bib-connected _drip_ irrigation without additional licensing, if you can believe that. Suckage. Having done nearly all my (and my friends' and family's) electrical, plumbing, irrigation, and building since about age 6, I resent that. If I recall, you are in Oregon. We have the same kind of rules in Mass. It's a ricebowl issue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_rice_bowl But strangely enough, all hardware stores, plumbing houses, and electrical suppliers will sell the parts to anyone with money. And life goes on. Joe Gwinn |
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Soda Blasting?
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 09:32:00 -0400, Joseph Gwinn
wrote: In article , Larry Jaques wrote: I can't even do hose-bib-connected _drip_ irrigation without additional licensing, if you can believe that. Suckage. Having done nearly all my (and my friends' and family's) electrical, plumbing, irrigation, and building since about age 6, I resent that. If I recall, you are in Oregon. We have the same kind of rules in Mass. Ayup. It's a ricebowl issue: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_rice_bowl Yeah. What's our percentage of gov't vs private sector employment now? 50/50, or closing, innit? sad sigh But strangely enough, all hardware stores, plumbing houses, and electrical suppliers will sell the parts to anyone with money. Yes, thankfully. And life goes on. It's legal for the homeowner to do their own electrical, plumbing, and even mold, asbestos, and lead work. The latter 3 require licensing and permits, but anyone can qualify. -- Happiness comes of the capacity to feel deeply, to enjoy simply, to think freely, to risk life, to be needed. -- Storm Jameson |
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