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This one involves an art project. A Salinas middle school student said her
teacher stopped her from drawing the American flag, while another student's
picture of President Obama was praised.

Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her
daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-93423139.html



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This one involves an art project. A Salinas middle school student said her
teacher stopped her from drawing the American flag, while another
student's picture of President Obama was praised.

Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her
daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-93423139.html



Best Regards

Tom.


Let's see...what offends liberuls:
-The US flag
-God
-Prayer
-Religious symbols
-Honesty
-Patriotism
-Nuclear family
-Family values
-Heterosexuals
-Wealth creators
-Working for a living
-Responsible spending
-Personal responsibility
-Accountability
-Free speech
-Firearms
-Non-junk science
-The military
-Private schools
-Uninterrupted pregnancies
-Etc, etc, etc


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This one involves an art project. A Salinas middle school student said her
teacher stopped her from drawing the American flag, while another
student's picture of President Obama was praised.

Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her
daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-93423139.html


The teacher is an idiot, but the child has obviously been Godwashed by
her parents and/or church. I'll bet the flag, by itself, might have
been allowed. What wasn't allowed was a flag inundated by God Bless
America (TWICE, no less), One Nation under God, and In God We Trust.

It offends me, too. (God 'n I get along just fine. It's the religious
freaks who try to push him/her on everyone most of the time that I
have trouble with. Stormin Mormon and Amway salesmen, y'know?) The
media have found another scapegoat to hunt.

When are you folks gonna turn off your TV sets and stop buying into
the hype that they call "news", hmm?


Let's see...what offends liberuls:


-Prayer
-Religious symbols


Well, those offend me at times, too. Proselytizing, especially.
May Thor's hammer come down on them for it.


-Nuclear family


Nuclear power.


-Free speech


Unless it's their own.


-Uninterrupted pregnancies


If I ever get pregnant, I want options, too.


-Etc, etc, etc



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Larry,

How in the hell do you expect to be controlled if you continue to think for
yourself and hold your own opinions?

Further you frustrate people taking political polls because if you do not
think like everyone else in column A or column B how in the world will these
folks classify you?

You have probably been reading books again haven't you?

--

Roger Shoaf

About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then
they come up with this striped stuff.


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This one involves an art project. A Salinas middle school student said

her
teacher stopped her from drawing the American flag, while another
student's picture of President Obama was praised.

Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told

her
daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive.


http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-93423139.html

The teacher is an idiot, but the child has obviously been Godwashed by
her parents and/or church. I'll bet the flag, by itself, might have
been allowed. What wasn't allowed was a flag inundated by God Bless
America (TWICE, no less), One Nation under God, and In God We Trust.

It offends me, too. (God 'n I get along just fine. It's the religious
freaks who try to push him/her on everyone most of the time that I
have trouble with. Stormin Mormon and Amway salesmen, y'know?) The
media have found another scapegoat to hunt.

When are you folks gonna turn off your TV sets and stop buying into
the hype that they call "news", hmm?


Let's see...what offends liberuls:


-Prayer
-Religious symbols


Well, those offend me at times, too. Proselytizing, especially.
May Thor's hammer come down on them for it.


-Nuclear family


Nuclear power.


-Free speech


Unless it's their own.


-Uninterrupted pregnancies


If I ever get pregnant, I want options, too.


-Etc, etc, etc



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Larry,

How in the hell do you expect to be controlled if you continue to think for
yourself and hold your own opinions?


Further you frustrate people taking political polls because if you do not
think like everyone else in column A or column B how in the world will these
folks classify you?

You have probably been reading books again haven't you?


Thanks, Roger. I needed that.

P.S: Yes, indeedy. I'm an avid reader.

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This one involves an art project. A Salinas middle school student said her
teacher stopped her from drawing the American flag, while another
student's picture of President Obama was praised.

Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her
daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-93423139.html



Best Regards

Tom.


Let's see...what offends liberuls:
-The US flag
-God
-Prayer
-Religious symbols
-Honesty
-Patriotism
-Nuclear family
-Family values
-Heterosexuals
-Wealth creators
-Working for a living
-Responsible spending
-Personal responsibility
-Accountability
-Free speech
-Firearms
-Non-junk science
-The military
-Private schools
-Uninterrupted pregnancies
-Etc, etc, etc



Wire brushes...


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Larry Jaques wrote:

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wrote the following:

Larry,

How in the hell do you expect to be controlled if you continue to think for
yourself and hold your own opinions?


Further you frustrate people taking political polls because if you do not
think like everyone else in column A or column B how in the world will these
folks classify you?

You have probably been reading books again haven't you?


Thanks, Roger. I needed that.

P.S: Yes, indeedy. I'm an avid reader.



Just how long does it take you to read an 'avid'? ;-)


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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:49:39 -0700, "Roger Shoaf"
wrote the following:

Larry,

How in the hell do you expect to be controlled if you continue to think for
yourself and hold your own opinions?
Further you frustrate people taking political polls because if you do not
think like everyone else in column A or column B how in the world will these
folks classify you?

You have probably been reading books again haven't you?

Thanks, Roger. I needed that.

P.S: Yes, indeedy. I'm an avid reader.



Just how long does it take you to read an 'avid'? ;-)


And what library did you find them in? :-)
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:49:39 -0700, "Roger Shoaf"
wrote the following:

Larry,

How in the hell do you expect to be controlled if you continue to think for
yourself and hold your own opinions?
Further you frustrate people taking political polls because if you do not
think like everyone else in column A or column B how in the world will these
folks classify you?

You have probably been reading books again haven't you?
Thanks, Roger. I needed that.

P.S: Yes, indeedy. I'm an avid reader.



Just how long does it take you to read an 'avid'? ;-)


And what library did you find them in? :-)



Cetainly none that would give HIM a library card! ;-)


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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:49:39 -0700, "Roger Shoaf"
wrote the following:

Larry,

How in the hell do you expect to be controlled if you continue to think for
yourself and hold your own opinions?
Further you frustrate people taking political polls because if you do not
think like everyone else in column A or column B how in the world will these
folks classify you?

You have probably been reading books again haven't you?
Thanks, Roger. I needed that.

P.S: Yes, indeedy. I'm an avid reader.



Just how long does it take you to read an 'avid'? ;-)


"She's in the aviary, studying trees."


And what library did you find them in? :-)


Do you mean "In which library did you find them?", Lew?
It was misfiled right next to Ovid in the local library, of course.

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Reading what? We might arrange a book exchange, I have thousands of novels.


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Buerste wrote:


Let's see...what offends liberuls:
-The US flag
-God
-Prayer
-Religious symbols
-Honesty
-Patriotism
-Nuclear family
-Family values
-Heterosexuals
-Wealth creators
-Working for a living
-Responsible spending
-Personal responsibility
-Accountability
-Free speech
-Firearms
-Non-junk science
-The military
-Private schools
-Uninterrupted pregnancies
-Etc, etc, etc



Wire brushes...


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have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.


Wire brushes imply actual physical labor. Libtards are offended by ANY
labor...unless it's a (non)labor union.


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Buerste wrote:


Let's see...what offends liberuls:
-The US flag
-God
-Prayer
-Religious symbols
-Honesty
-Patriotism
-Nuclear family
-Family values
-Heterosexuals
-Wealth creators
-Working for a living
-Responsible spending
-Personal responsibility
-Accountability
-Free speech
-Firearms
-Non-junk science
-The military
-Private schools
-Uninterrupted pregnancies
-Etc, etc, etc



Wire brushes...


--
Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.


Wire brushes imply actual physical labor. Libtards are offended by ANY
labor...unless it's a (non)labor union.


Sure, but they prefer plastic brushes. It matches what passes for
their personality.


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wrote the following:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:49:39 -0700, "Roger Shoaf"
wrote the following:

Larry,

How in the hell do you expect to be controlled if you continue to think for
yourself and hold your own opinions?
Further you frustrate people taking political polls because if you do not
think like everyone else in column A or column B how in the world will these
folks classify you?

You have probably been reading books again haven't you?
Thanks, Roger. I needed that.

P.S: Yes, indeedy. I'm an avid reader.

Just how long does it take you to read an 'avid'? ;-)


"She's in the aviary, studying trees."


"You may sit here in the waiting room or wait here in the sitting room."

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P.S: Yes, indeedy. I'm an avid reader.


Reading what? We might arrange a book exchange, I have thousands of novels.


Oh, sure. Like I want all those Danielle Steele novels and _The Lesbo
Love Lush of Lower Ludlow_. Uh, huh.

I have a wide range of reading interests, from histo-political (_The
Genius of the People_ is on one of my 5 to-be-read stacks) to scifi to
science to wooddorking to metaldorking to woo-woo (as my ex-BIL called
the psychic world) to health to nature. Anything interesting. I just
picked up _Backroads of Oregon_ and want to go for a drive now. But
I'm too busy. sigh Owning businesses is a mixed blessing, but I'm
sure you know that. I need 6-8 weeks off to let a stress fracture of
my left index metatarsal/phalangeal joint heal, but even The Chosen
One's Obamacare won't help me there. (No, it's not from wearing
high-heels, silly girl.)

Whatcha got? Maybe we could swap boxfuls. (No 2-way trips. That gets
too expensive. If it's a keeper, keep it.)

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(No, it's not from wearing high-heels, silly girl.)



So, you've already mastered that skill? ;-)


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So, you've already mastered that skill? ;-)


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They do wonders for his legs!


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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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P.S: Yes, indeedy. I'm an avid reader.


Reading what? We might arrange a book exchange, I have thousands of
novels.


Oh, sure. Like I want all those Danielle Steele novels and _The Lesbo
Love Lush of Lower Ludlow_. Uh, huh.

I have a wide range of reading interests, from histo-political (_The
Genius of the People_ is on one of my 5 to-be-read stacks) to scifi to
science to wooddorking to metaldorking to woo-woo (as my ex-BIL called
the psychic world) to health to nature. Anything interesting. I just
picked up _Backroads of Oregon_ and want to go for a drive now. But
I'm too busy. sigh Owning businesses is a mixed blessing, but I'm
sure you know that. I need 6-8 weeks off to let a stress fracture of
my left index metatarsal/phalangeal joint heal, but even The Chosen
One's Obamacare won't help me there. (No, it's not from wearing
high-heels, silly girl.)

Whatcha got? Maybe we could swap boxfuls. (No 2-way trips. That gets
too expensive. If it's a keeper, keep it.)

--
Work and struggle and never accept an evil that you can change.
-- Andre Gide


Sorry, no "bodice rippers". I won't part with any of my reference material
but...hmmmm, I'll have to think about how to classify my library.


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Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her
daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive.


To who? I'm fine with it.

Wes
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So, you've already mastered that skill? ;-)


They do wonders for his legs!



Does he still blush when he gets a wolf whistle? ;-)


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Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her
daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive.


To who? I'm fine with it.



Offensive to idiot liberal art teachers.


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Wes wrote:

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Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told
her
daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive.


To who? I'm fine with it.



Offensive to idiot liberal art teachers.


Offensive to ideological subversive movements that have taken control of our
educational system at all levels. Obviously the teacher disregarded the
childs
2nd ammendment rights which can only be remadied by involking an involentary
carrier change to spare future students the verbal chastisement this
educator has
in store for any pupil whos ideology does not align with hers.

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2nd ammendment rights which can only be remadied by involking an
involentary carrier change to spare future students the verbal
chastisement this educator has
in store for any pupil whos ideology does not align with hers.


Part of the problem that allows teachers to assume positions of authority
then foist their idea(l)s upon students is that some of them are
literate. Few of the general population of middle-school teachers are
actually well-educated; true enough, even though they have "degrees" in
"general education" (more of a description of the character of what they
learned, than the scope of what they'll do). But more of the radical
types are functionally literate than the "equal-pay-for-all-regardless-
of-skills" types.

Some of "us" who condemn them are not. Those who are not have no right
or ability to fight back, using illiterate, inane commentary. It has no
use, and exhonerates the radicals' positions.

I wholeheartedly condemn what that teacher did. I can also write a
cogent, well punctuated and properly spelled treatise on why I condemn
it.

Get a book.

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Wes wrote:

"azotic" wrote:

Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told
her
daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive.


To who? I'm fine with it.



Offensive to idiot liberal art teachers.


Offensive to ideological subversive movements that have taken control of
our
educational system at all levels. Obviously the teacher disregarded the
childs
2nd ammendment rights....


Was the kid carrying concealed at the time?

--
Ed Huntress


which can only be remadied by involking an involentary
carrier change to spare future students the verbal chastisement this
educator has
in store for any pupil whos ideology does not align with hers.

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So, you've already mastered that skill? ;-)


Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to
have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.


They do wonders for his legs!


I can't imagine how much pain would come from putting a
stress-fractured foot into a high heel and walking.

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"azotic" wrote:

Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told
her
daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive.


To who? I'm fine with it.


Offensive to idiot liberal art teachers.


Offensive to ideological subversive movements that have taken control of
our
educational system at all levels. Obviously the teacher disregarded the
childs
2nd ammendment rights....


Was the kid carrying concealed at the time?

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Of course. Offensive ideas.G

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Some of "us" who condemn them are not. Those who are not have no right
or ability to fight back, using illiterate, inane commentary. It has no
use, and exhonerates the radicals' positions.

I wholeheartedly condemn what that teacher did. I can also write a
cogent, well punctuated and properly spelled treatise on why I condemn
it.

Get a book.

LLoyd


"exhonerates" ?
Is this a self-referential joke?

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This one involves an art project. A Salinas middle school student said her
teacher stopped her from drawing the American flag, while another student's
picture of President Obama was praised.

Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her
daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-93423139.html


I'm getting jaded but teacher in my mind now is synonymous with indoctrinator. There are
agendas and education is a battleground. Thank God my teachers tended to be libertarian
and conservative for the most part.

Wes
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Oh, sure. Like I want all those Danielle Steele novels and _The Lesbo
Love Lush of Lower Ludlow_. Uh, huh.


I have one Danielle Steele novel. Saw a picture of a propeller and bought it on impulse
at Waldenbooks. Wife at the time laughed her ass off. Told me who Danielle Steel is and
what her genre consisted of.

Not sure if ex-wifie read it, she seemed to like bodice rippers.

Wes
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This one involves an art project. A Salinas middle school student said her
teacher stopped her from drawing the American flag, while another
student's
picture of President Obama was praised.

Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her
daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-93423139.html


I'm getting jaded but teacher in my mind now is synonymous with
indoctrinator. There are
agendas and education is a battleground. Thank God my teachers tended to
be libertarian
and conservative for the most part.

Wes
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You got it right. We really dont have many true teachers left.
Most of todays teachers resemble the UAW members of the 1970's.


Illinois House kills school voucher bill
Fervent lobbying by unions sinks idea to give students $3,700 to switch to
private or parochial schools
May 05, 2010|By Ray Long and Michelle Manchir, Tribune Reporters
SPRINGFIELD - A measure to let students in Chicago's worst-performing and
most-overcrowded elementary schools use taxpayer-funded vouchers to attend
private schools was defeated in the Illinois House on Wednesday, giving
teachers unions a major victory.

The landmark legislation would have made Chicago Public Schools the site of
what experts said would be the nation's largest voucher program. Up to
30,000 of the district's 400,000 students could have left the weak schools
they now attend, setting up competition for public schools.

The legislation got through the Senate in March after being championed by
Sen. James Meeks, D-Chicago, and suburban Republicans. But by Wednesday,
teachers unions had regrouped and its supporters found themselves pleading
with opponents to overcome a furious lobbying effort to stop the bill.

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...r-city-schools

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On Tue, 11 May 2010 16:41:58 -0700, "azotic" wrote:

This one involves an art project. A Salinas middle school student said her
teacher stopped her from drawing the American flag, while another student's
picture of President Obama was praised.

Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her
daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive.

http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-93423139.html



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No wonder Salinas has one of the highest California Unemployment
rates..at 50%

All the teachers are stupid and train the kids that way.

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The teacher is an idiot, but the child has obviously been Godwashed by
her parents and/or church. I'll bet the flag, by itself, might have
been allowed. What wasn't allowed was a flag inundated by God Bless
America (TWICE, no less), One Nation under God, and In God We Trust.


Then send me all of your cash. Cant be happy to own something with God
on it?

Send me your cash.


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