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This one involves an art project. A Salinas middle school student said her
teacher stopped her from drawing the American flag, while another student's picture of President Obama was praised. Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive. http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-93423139.html Best Regards Tom. |
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"azotic" wrote in message ... This one involves an art project. A Salinas middle school student said her teacher stopped her from drawing the American flag, while another student's picture of President Obama was praised. Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive. http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-93423139.html Best Regards Tom. Let's see...what offends liberuls: -The US flag -God -Prayer -Religious symbols -Honesty -Patriotism -Nuclear family -Family values -Heterosexuals -Wealth creators -Working for a living -Responsible spending -Personal responsibility -Accountability -Free speech -Firearms -Non-junk science -The military -Private schools -Uninterrupted pregnancies -Etc, etc, etc |
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On Wed, 12 May 2010 05:31:19 -0400, "Buerste"
wrote the following: "azotic" wrote in message ... This one involves an art project. A Salinas middle school student said her teacher stopped her from drawing the American flag, while another student's picture of President Obama was praised. Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive. http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-93423139.html The teacher is an idiot, but the child has obviously been Godwashed by her parents and/or church. I'll bet the flag, by itself, might have been allowed. What wasn't allowed was a flag inundated by God Bless America (TWICE, no less), One Nation under God, and In God We Trust. It offends me, too. (God 'n I get along just fine. It's the religious freaks who try to push him/her on everyone most of the time that I have trouble with. Stormin Mormon and Amway salesmen, y'know?) The media have found another scapegoat to hunt. When are you folks gonna turn off your TV sets and stop buying into the hype that they call "news", hmm? Let's see...what offends liberuls: -Prayer -Religious symbols Well, those offend me at times, too. Proselytizing, especially. May Thor's hammer come down on them for it. -Nuclear family Nuclear power. -Free speech Unless it's their own. -Uninterrupted pregnancies If I ever get pregnant, I want options, too. -Etc, etc, etc -- You will find that the mere resolve not to be useless, and the honest desire to help other people, will, in the quickest and delicatest ways, improve yourself. -- John Ruskin |
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Larry,
How in the hell do you expect to be controlled if you continue to think for yourself and hold your own opinions? Further you frustrate people taking political polls because if you do not think like everyone else in column A or column B how in the world will these folks classify you? You have probably been reading books again haven't you? -- Roger Shoaf About the time I had mastered getting the toothpaste back in the tube, then they come up with this striped stuff. "Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Wed, 12 May 2010 05:31:19 -0400, "Buerste" wrote the following: "azotic" wrote in message ... This one involves an art project. A Salinas middle school student said her teacher stopped her from drawing the American flag, while another student's picture of President Obama was praised. Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive. http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-93423139.html The teacher is an idiot, but the child has obviously been Godwashed by her parents and/or church. I'll bet the flag, by itself, might have been allowed. What wasn't allowed was a flag inundated by God Bless America (TWICE, no less), One Nation under God, and In God We Trust. It offends me, too. (God 'n I get along just fine. It's the religious freaks who try to push him/her on everyone most of the time that I have trouble with. Stormin Mormon and Amway salesmen, y'know?) The media have found another scapegoat to hunt. When are you folks gonna turn off your TV sets and stop buying into the hype that they call "news", hmm? Let's see...what offends liberuls: -Prayer -Religious symbols Well, those offend me at times, too. Proselytizing, especially. May Thor's hammer come down on them for it. -Nuclear family Nuclear power. -Free speech Unless it's their own. -Uninterrupted pregnancies If I ever get pregnant, I want options, too. -Etc, etc, etc -- You will find that the mere resolve not to be useless, and the honest desire to help other people, will, in the quickest and delicatest ways, improve yourself. -- John Ruskin |
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On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:49:39 -0700, "Roger Shoaf"
wrote the following: Larry, How in the hell do you expect to be controlled if you continue to think for yourself and hold your own opinions? Further you frustrate people taking political polls because if you do not think like everyone else in column A or column B how in the world will these folks classify you? You have probably been reading books again haven't you? Thanks, Roger. I needed that. P.S: Yes, indeedy. I'm an avid reader. -- You will find that the mere resolve not to be useless, and the honest desire to help other people, will, in the quickest and delicatest ways, improve yourself. -- John Ruskin |
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Buerste wrote: "azotic" wrote in message ... This one involves an art project. A Salinas middle school student said her teacher stopped her from drawing the American flag, while another student's picture of President Obama was praised. Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive. http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-93423139.html Best Regards Tom. Let's see...what offends liberuls: -The US flag -God -Prayer -Religious symbols -Honesty -Patriotism -Nuclear family -Family values -Heterosexuals -Wealth creators -Working for a living -Responsible spending -Personal responsibility -Accountability -Free speech -Firearms -Non-junk science -The military -Private schools -Uninterrupted pregnancies -Etc, etc, etc Wire brushes... -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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Larry Jaques wrote: On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:49:39 -0700, "Roger Shoaf" wrote the following: Larry, How in the hell do you expect to be controlled if you continue to think for yourself and hold your own opinions? Further you frustrate people taking political polls because if you do not think like everyone else in column A or column B how in the world will these folks classify you? You have probably been reading books again haven't you? Thanks, Roger. I needed that. P.S: Yes, indeedy. I'm an avid reader. Just how long does it take you to read an 'avid'? ;-) -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote: On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:49:39 -0700, "Roger Shoaf" wrote the following: Larry, How in the hell do you expect to be controlled if you continue to think for yourself and hold your own opinions? Further you frustrate people taking political polls because if you do not think like everyone else in column A or column B how in the world will these folks classify you? You have probably been reading books again haven't you? Thanks, Roger. I needed that. P.S: Yes, indeedy. I'm an avid reader. Just how long does it take you to read an 'avid'? ;-) And what library did you find them in? :-) ...lew... |
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Lewis Hartswick wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:49:39 -0700, "Roger Shoaf" wrote the following: Larry, How in the hell do you expect to be controlled if you continue to think for yourself and hold your own opinions? Further you frustrate people taking political polls because if you do not think like everyone else in column A or column B how in the world will these folks classify you? You have probably been reading books again haven't you? Thanks, Roger. I needed that. P.S: Yes, indeedy. I'm an avid reader. Just how long does it take you to read an 'avid'? ;-) And what library did you find them in? :-) Cetainly none that would give HIM a library card! ;-) -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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On Thu, 13 May 2010 15:26:23 -0600, Lewis Hartswick
wrote the following: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:49:39 -0700, "Roger Shoaf" wrote the following: Larry, How in the hell do you expect to be controlled if you continue to think for yourself and hold your own opinions? Further you frustrate people taking political polls because if you do not think like everyone else in column A or column B how in the world will these folks classify you? You have probably been reading books again haven't you? Thanks, Roger. I needed that. P.S: Yes, indeedy. I'm an avid reader. Just how long does it take you to read an 'avid'? ;-) "She's in the aviary, studying trees." And what library did you find them in? :-) Do you mean "In which library did you find them?", Lew? It was misfiled right next to Ovid in the local library, of course. -- Work and struggle and never accept an evil that you can change. -- Andre Gide |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message news P.S: Yes, indeedy. I'm an avid reader. -- Reading what? We might arrange a book exchange, I have thousands of novels. |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... Buerste wrote: Let's see...what offends liberuls: -The US flag -God -Prayer -Religious symbols -Honesty -Patriotism -Nuclear family -Family values -Heterosexuals -Wealth creators -Working for a living -Responsible spending -Personal responsibility -Accountability -Free speech -Firearms -Non-junk science -The military -Private schools -Uninterrupted pregnancies -Etc, etc, etc Wire brushes... -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. Wire brushes imply actual physical labor. Libtards are offended by ANY labor...unless it's a (non)labor union. |
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Buerste wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... Buerste wrote: Let's see...what offends liberuls: -The US flag -God -Prayer -Religious symbols -Honesty -Patriotism -Nuclear family -Family values -Heterosexuals -Wealth creators -Working for a living -Responsible spending -Personal responsibility -Accountability -Free speech -Firearms -Non-junk science -The military -Private schools -Uninterrupted pregnancies -Etc, etc, etc Wire brushes... -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. Wire brushes imply actual physical labor. Libtards are offended by ANY labor...unless it's a (non)labor union. Sure, but they prefer plastic brushes. It matches what passes for their personality. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 13 May 2010 15:26:23 -0600, Lewis Hartswick wrote the following: Michael A. Terrell wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: On Wed, 12 May 2010 10:49:39 -0700, "Roger Shoaf" wrote the following: Larry, How in the hell do you expect to be controlled if you continue to think for yourself and hold your own opinions? Further you frustrate people taking political polls because if you do not think like everyone else in column A or column B how in the world will these folks classify you? You have probably been reading books again haven't you? Thanks, Roger. I needed that. P.S: Yes, indeedy. I'm an avid reader. Just how long does it take you to read an 'avid'? ;-) "She's in the aviary, studying trees." "You may sit here in the waiting room or wait here in the sitting room." David |
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On Fri, 14 May 2010 02:13:09 -0400, "Buerste"
wrote the following: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message news P.S: Yes, indeedy. I'm an avid reader. Reading what? We might arrange a book exchange, I have thousands of novels. Oh, sure. Like I want all those Danielle Steele novels and _The Lesbo Love Lush of Lower Ludlow_. Uh, huh. I have a wide range of reading interests, from histo-political (_The Genius of the People_ is on one of my 5 to-be-read stacks) to scifi to science to wooddorking to metaldorking to woo-woo (as my ex-BIL called the psychic world) to health to nature. Anything interesting. I just picked up _Backroads of Oregon_ and want to go for a drive now. But I'm too busy. sigh Owning businesses is a mixed blessing, but I'm sure you know that. I need 6-8 weeks off to let a stress fracture of my left index metatarsal/phalangeal joint heal, but even The Chosen One's Obamacare won't help me there. (No, it's not from wearing high-heels, silly girl.) Whatcha got? Maybe we could swap boxfuls. (No 2-way trips. That gets too expensive. If it's a keeper, keep it.) -- Work and struggle and never accept an evil that you can change. -- Andre Gide |
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Larry Jaques wrote: (No, it's not from wearing high-heels, silly girl.) So, you've already mastered that skill? ;-) -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Larry Jaques wrote: (No, it's not from wearing high-heels, silly girl.) So, you've already mastered that skill? ;-) -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. They do wonders for his legs! |
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"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Fri, 14 May 2010 02:13:09 -0400, "Buerste" wrote the following: "Larry Jaques" wrote in message news P.S: Yes, indeedy. I'm an avid reader. Reading what? We might arrange a book exchange, I have thousands of novels. Oh, sure. Like I want all those Danielle Steele novels and _The Lesbo Love Lush of Lower Ludlow_. Uh, huh. I have a wide range of reading interests, from histo-political (_The Genius of the People_ is on one of my 5 to-be-read stacks) to scifi to science to wooddorking to metaldorking to woo-woo (as my ex-BIL called the psychic world) to health to nature. Anything interesting. I just picked up _Backroads of Oregon_ and want to go for a drive now. But I'm too busy. sigh Owning businesses is a mixed blessing, but I'm sure you know that. I need 6-8 weeks off to let a stress fracture of my left index metatarsal/phalangeal joint heal, but even The Chosen One's Obamacare won't help me there. (No, it's not from wearing high-heels, silly girl.) Whatcha got? Maybe we could swap boxfuls. (No 2-way trips. That gets too expensive. If it's a keeper, keep it.) -- Work and struggle and never accept an evil that you can change. -- Andre Gide Sorry, no "bodice rippers". I won't part with any of my reference material but...hmmmm, I'll have to think about how to classify my library. |
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"azotic" wrote:
Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive. To who? I'm fine with it. Wes |
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Buerste wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Larry Jaques wrote: (No, it's not from wearing high-heels, silly girl.) So, you've already mastered that skill? ;-) They do wonders for his legs! Does he still blush when he gets a wolf whistle? ;-) -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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Wes wrote: "azotic" wrote: Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive. To who? I'm fine with it. Offensive to idiot liberal art teachers. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... Wes wrote: "azotic" wrote: Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive. To who? I'm fine with it. Offensive to idiot liberal art teachers. Offensive to ideological subversive movements that have taken control of our educational system at all levels. Obviously the teacher disregarded the childs 2nd ammendment rights which can only be remadied by involking an involentary carrier change to spare future students the verbal chastisement this educator has in store for any pupil whos ideology does not align with hers. Best Regards Tom. |
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"azotic" fired this volley in
: 2nd ammendment rights which can only be remadied by involking an involentary carrier change to spare future students the verbal chastisement this educator has in store for any pupil whos ideology does not align with hers. Part of the problem that allows teachers to assume positions of authority then foist their idea(l)s upon students is that some of them are literate. Few of the general population of middle-school teachers are actually well-educated; true enough, even though they have "degrees" in "general education" (more of a description of the character of what they learned, than the scope of what they'll do). But more of the radical types are functionally literate than the "equal-pay-for-all-regardless- of-skills" types. Some of "us" who condemn them are not. Those who are not have no right or ability to fight back, using illiterate, inane commentary. It has no use, and exhonerates the radicals' positions. I wholeheartedly condemn what that teacher did. I can also write a cogent, well punctuated and properly spelled treatise on why I condemn it. Get a book. LLoyd |
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"azotic" wrote in message ... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... Wes wrote: "azotic" wrote: Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive. To who? I'm fine with it. Offensive to idiot liberal art teachers. Offensive to ideological subversive movements that have taken control of our educational system at all levels. Obviously the teacher disregarded the childs 2nd ammendment rights.... Was the kid carrying concealed at the time? -- Ed Huntress which can only be remadied by involking an involentary carrier change to spare future students the verbal chastisement this educator has in store for any pupil whos ideology does not align with hers. Best Regards Tom. |
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On Fri, 14 May 2010 14:24:23 -0400, "Buerste"
wrote the following: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message ... Larry Jaques wrote: (No, it's not from wearing high-heels, silly girl.) So, you've already mastered that skill? ;-) Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. They do wonders for his legs! I can't imagine how much pain would come from putting a stress-fractured foot into a high heel and walking. -- Work and struggle and never accept an evil that you can change. -- Andre Gide |
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"Ed Huntress" wrote in message ... "azotic" wrote in message ... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... Wes wrote: "azotic" wrote: Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive. To who? I'm fine with it. Offensive to idiot liberal art teachers. Offensive to ideological subversive movements that have taken control of our educational system at all levels. Obviously the teacher disregarded the childs 2nd ammendment rights.... Was the kid carrying concealed at the time? -- Ed Huntress Of course. Offensive ideas.G Best Regards Tom. |
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message Some of "us" who condemn them are not. Those who are not have no right or ability to fight back, using illiterate, inane commentary. It has no use, and exhonerates the radicals' positions. I wholeheartedly condemn what that teacher did. I can also write a cogent, well punctuated and properly spelled treatise on why I condemn it. Get a book. LLoyd "exhonerates" ? Is this a self-referential joke? -- Jeff R. (Oh I get it. It's American spellink) |
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"azotic" wrote:
This one involves an art project. A Salinas middle school student said her teacher stopped her from drawing the American flag, while another student's picture of President Obama was praised. Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive. http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-93423139.html I'm getting jaded but teacher in my mind now is synonymous with indoctrinator. There are agendas and education is a battleground. Thank God my teachers tended to be libertarian and conservative for the most part. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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Larry Jaques wrote:
Oh, sure. Like I want all those Danielle Steele novels and _The Lesbo Love Lush of Lower Ludlow_. Uh, huh. I have one Danielle Steele novel. Saw a picture of a propeller and bought it on impulse at Waldenbooks. Wife at the time laughed her ass off. Told me who Danielle Steel is and what her genre consisted of. Not sure if ex-wifie read it, she seemed to like bodice rippers. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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"Wes" wrote in message ... "azotic" wrote: This one involves an art project. A Salinas middle school student said her teacher stopped her from drawing the American flag, while another student's picture of President Obama was praised. Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive. http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-93423139.html I'm getting jaded but teacher in my mind now is synonymous with indoctrinator. There are agendas and education is a battleground. Thank God my teachers tended to be libertarian and conservative for the most part. Wes -- You got it right. We really dont have many true teachers left. Most of todays teachers resemble the UAW members of the 1970's. Illinois House kills school voucher bill Fervent lobbying by unions sinks idea to give students $3,700 to switch to private or parochial schools May 05, 2010|By Ray Long and Michelle Manchir, Tribune Reporters SPRINGFIELD - A measure to let students in Chicago's worst-performing and most-overcrowded elementary schools use taxpayer-funded vouchers to attend private schools was defeated in the Illinois House on Wednesday, giving teachers unions a major victory. The landmark legislation would have made Chicago Public Schools the site of what experts said would be the nation's largest voucher program. Up to 30,000 of the district's 400,000 students could have left the weak schools they now attend, setting up competition for public schools. The legislation got through the Senate in March after being championed by Sen. James Meeks, D-Chicago, and suburban Republicans. But by Wednesday, teachers unions had regrouped and its supporters found themselves pleading with opponents to overcome a furious lobbying effort to stop the bill. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2...r-city-schools Best Regards Tom. --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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On Tue, 11 May 2010 16:41:58 -0700, "azotic" wrote:
This one involves an art project. A Salinas middle school student said her teacher stopped her from drawing the American flag, while another student's picture of President Obama was praised. Tracy Hathaway said the art teacher at Gavilan View Middle School told her daughter she couldn't draw the American flag because it was offensive. http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local...-93423139.html Best Regards Tom. No wonder Salinas has one of the highest California Unemployment rates..at 50% All the teachers are stupid and train the kids that way. Gunner -- "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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On Wed, 12 May 2010 05:37:49 -0700, Larry Jaques
wrote: The teacher is an idiot, but the child has obviously been Godwashed by her parents and/or church. I'll bet the flag, by itself, might have been allowed. What wasn't allowed was a flag inundated by God Bless America (TWICE, no less), One Nation under God, and In God We Trust. Then send me all of your cash. Cant be happy to own something with God on it? Send me your cash. Gunner -- "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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