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irrigation water flow rate and nozzle diameter
Most unusual frost/freeze predicted tomorrow. We're looking at winds 18
gusting to 25 with freezing conditions. The strawberries are in bloom. Standard protocol for still condition frost in strawberry is one sprinkler every 60 feet by 60 feet with a 9/64 nozzle. At 70 psi you get about .1 inch per hour and protection down to 27 or 28. This don't get it for wind, you need a lot more water. There's a convective cooling effect. I need to be in the .3 inch per hour range. I can double flow by protecting 1/2 the area and running a sprinkler every 30' by 60' spacing. Not quite there. My particular pump will run 40 9/64th sprinklers at 70 psi. I don't know flow rate but its around 125 gallon per minute. Now for my question, I'm going to run 25 sprinklers on this pump and I need to bore the ID out to match the pumps flow and get 70 psi. What diameter should I try? I can't go smaller once bored, but I have time for two trials. I'm guessing three hours work to remove 25 sprinkler nozzles, bore, replace, and then test pressure. Karl |
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you should look at your pump chart to determine what your pump will put out.
You can compute the flow rate through an orfice but such that drill bits do not make round holes your figures will be off. I cannot answer your question but gave you some info for next time around. Al "Karl Townsend" wrote in message anews.com... Most unusual frost/freeze predicted tomorrow. We're looking at winds 18 gusting to 25 with freezing conditions. The strawberries are in bloom. Standard protocol for still condition frost in strawberry is one sprinkler every 60 feet by 60 feet with a 9/64 nozzle. At 70 psi you get about .1 inch per hour and protection down to 27 or 28. This don't get it for wind, you need a lot more water. There's a convective cooling effect. I need to be in the .3 inch per hour range. I can double flow by protecting 1/2 the area and running a sprinkler every 30' by 60' spacing. Not quite there. My particular pump will run 40 9/64th sprinklers at 70 psi. I don't know flow rate but its around 125 gallon per minute. Now for my question, I'm going to run 25 sprinklers on this pump and I need to bore the ID out to match the pumps flow and get 70 psi. What diameter should I try? I can't go smaller once bored, but I have time for two trials. I'm guessing three hours work to remove 25 sprinkler nozzles, bore, replace, and then test pressure. Karl |
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Follow up. If you search google enough you can find most anything.
http://www.mcnallyinstitute.com/13-html/13-12.htm My conclusion from this paper, holding other parameters constant, flow rate varies with the square root of nozzle diameter. Karl |
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wrote in message m... you should look at your pump chart to determine what your pump will put out. You can compute the flow rate through an orfice but such that drill bits do not make round holes your figures will be off. I cannot answer your question but gave you some info for next time around. Al Yea, my pump chart shows 160 gpm when it was new. I've been pumping a bit of sand for fourteen years, the impellers are worn. And there are a few minor system leaks. In short, it don't run as good as it used to. I don't either. Karl |
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Karl Townsend wrote:
Follow up. If you search google enough you can find most anything. http://www.mcnallyinstitute.com/13-html/13-12.htm My conclusion from this paper, holding other parameters constant, flow rate varies with the square root of nozzle diameter. Makes sense, but I'd also bucket-test one before drilling them all. |
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On May 7, 10:48*am, Jim Stewart wrote:
Karl Townsend wrote: Follow up. If you search google enough you can find most anything. http://www.mcnallyinstitute.com/13-html/13-12.htm My conclusion from this paper, holding other parameters constant, flow rate varies with the square root of nozzle diameter. Makes sense, but I'd also bucket-test one before drilling them all. Bernoulli teaches that flow rate goes with the squair root of pressure and squair of area assuming the nosel factor dosen't change |
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On May 7, 11:07*am, toolbreaker wrote:
On May 7, 10:48*am, Jim Stewart wrote: Karl Townsend wrote: Follow up. If you search google enough you can find most anything. http://www.mcnallyinstitute.com/13-html/13-12.htm My conclusion from this paper, holding other parameters constant, flow rate varies with the square root of nozzle diameter. Makes sense, but I'd also bucket-test one before drilling them all. Bernoulli teaches that flow rate goes with the squair root of pressure and squair of area assuming the nosel factor dosen't change CORRECTION squair of area should be squair of diameter |
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"toolbreaker" wrote in message ... On May 7, 11:07 am, toolbreaker wrote: On May 7, 10:48 am, Jim Stewart wrote: Karl Townsend wrote: Follow up. If you search google enough you can find most anything. http://www.mcnallyinstitute.com/13-html/13-12.htm My conclusion from this paper, holding other parameters constant, flow rate varies with the square root of nozzle diameter. Makes sense, but I'd also bucket-test one before drilling them all. Bernoulli teaches that flow rate goes with the squair root of pressure and squair of area assuming the nosel factor dosen't change CORRECTION squair of area should be squair of diameter I went with the slightly different formula I found. it gave an answer of 11/64. I have a bunch of 3/16 nozzles. So I installed every other one and bored a few more to 3/16. Worked out just right with two more changed from 9/64 to 3/16 after the first test. I'm all set for tonight. Karl |
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toolbreaker wrote: On May 7, 11:07 am, toolbreaker wrote: On May 7, 10:48 am, Jim Stewart wrote: Karl Townsend wrote: Follow up. If you search google enough you can find most anything. http://www.mcnallyinstitute.com/13-html/13-12.htm My conclusion from this paper, holding other parameters constant, flow rate varies with the square root of nozzle diameter. Makes sense, but I'd also bucket-test one before drilling them all. Bernoulli teaches that flow rate goes with the squair root of pressure and squair of area assuming the nosel factor dosen't change CORRECTION squair of area should be squair of diameter CORRECTION 'squair' is spelled 'SQUARE'. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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