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"Buerste" wrote:
What's an "M-88" firecracker? Low power M-80. It was a pathetic bomb attempt. I'd bet a fair number of the regulars here could have built a bomb that would actually work if so inclined. Just to raise the bar, I bet that subgroup could do it without googling though it would help refine the device. Wes |
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On Mon, 3 May 2010 18:56:06 -0500, "William Wixon"
wrote: "Wes" wrote in message ... "Buerste" wrote: What's an "M-88" firecracker? Low power M-80. It was a pathetic bomb attempt. I'd bet a fair number of the regulars here could have built a bomb that would actually work if so inclined. Just to raise the bar, I bet that subgroup could do it without googling though it would help refine the device. Wes almost sounded to me like it wasn't actually really intended to blow up, just create a to-do on the news. didn't really want to hurt anyone. maybe a distraction from the oil well crisis. prolly a right-winger. :-) b.w. Or a Leftwinger or Islamic fundies rather pathetic attempt to either make an actual bomb, or a bomb statement using everything but an actual explosive. The fertilizer being non explosive...either its a statement of "We could have...." Or damned poor preperation and no field trial. And yes..there are people here that if sufficiently prompted..could make McVeighs device look like a party favor. Gunner -- "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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"William Wixon" wrote:
almost sounded to me like it wasn't actually really intended to blow up, just create a to-do on the news. didn't really want to hurt anyone. maybe a distraction from the oil well crisis. prolly a right-winger. :-) b.w. William, remember McVeigh? His package worked. Right wingers seldom go off but don't be in their target zone when it happens. We tend to have served and have a clue on now this stuff works. Who was the Unibomber just to give the left some cred? I know the left can do the deed when they want to. Weathermen? Actually, I don't think the perp was left or right. Likely someone from the Muslim world. Time will tell on that one. Time will tell. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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"Wes" wrote in message ... "Buerste" wrote: What's an "M-88" firecracker? Low power M-80. It was a pathetic bomb attempt. I'd bet a fair number of the regulars here could have built a bomb that would actually work if so inclined. Just to raise the bar, I bet that subgroup could do it without googling though it would help refine the device. Wes almost sounded to me like it wasn't actually really intended to blow up, just create a to-do on the news. didn't really want to hurt anyone. maybe a distraction from the oil well crisis. prolly a right-winger. :-) b.w. |
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"William Wixon" wrote:
almost sounded to me like it wasn't actually really intended to blow up, just create a to-do on the news. didn't really want to hurt anyone. maybe a distraction from the oil well crisis. prolly a right-winger. :-) Breaking news, the Feds have someone in custody, Faisal Shahzad. Wes |
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Gunner Asch wrote:
"Prior Planning and Preparation Prevents **** Poor Performance" We will indeed see that individual/group again. Unfortunately..they will probably get it right the 2nd time, if not caught first. The big worry is that they get a bomb maker into the country that really knows what he is doing. I wonder how many Muslim extremists are in our country right now? Wes |
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On Tue, 04 May 2010 04:19:21 -0400, Wes
wrote: "William Wixon" wrote: almost sounded to me like it wasn't actually really intended to blow up, just create a to-do on the news. didn't really want to hurt anyone. maybe a distraction from the oil well crisis. prolly a right-winger. :-) Breaking news, the Feds have someone in custody, Faisal Shahzad. Wes Very well done!!! Very well done indeed. Caught the rat ******* on the airplane, on the runway..on its way to Dubis "The suspect, identified as Faisal Shahzad, was picked up at John F. Kennedy International Airport just before midnight and is being held in New York. He is a Pakistani who recently returned from a trip to that country." Standing Ovation!! Well done boys..well done!! Gunner -- "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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On Tue, 04 May 2010 05:05:49 -0400, Wes
wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: "Prior Planning and Preparation Prevents **** Poor Performance" We will indeed see that individual/group again. Unfortunately..they will probably get it right the 2nd time, if not caught first. The big worry is that they get a bomb maker into the country that really knows what he is doing. I wonder how many Muslim extremists are in our country right now? Wes A ****load. And this guy had become a Naturalized American citizen. Which is going to make the investigation both interesting and tough. Gunner -- "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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"RogerN" wrote:
Smart people learn form their mistakes. Wise people learn from others mistakes. Liberal people don't learn from mistakes, they repeat them. Communism is fine, the problem is the last regime didn't implement it right? Socialism is Communism lite. I miss the days when Liberal was good and Conservative was bad. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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"Wes" wrote in message ... "RogerN" wrote: Smart people learn form their mistakes. Wise people learn from others mistakes. Liberal people don't learn from mistakes, they repeat them. Communism is fine, the problem is the last regime didn't implement it right? Socialism is Communism lite. I miss the days when Liberal was good and Conservative was bad. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller The final government will be a dictatorship, and it will be the best ever. RogerN |
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Wes wrote:
Gunner Asch wrote: "Prior Planning and Preparation Prevents **** Poor Performance" We will indeed see that individual/group again. Unfortunately..they will probably get it right the 2nd time, if not caught first. The big worry is that they get a bomb maker into the country that really knows what he is doing. I wonder how many Muslim extremists are in our country right now? Wes Remind me again, which mosque did McVeigh go to???? |
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Stuart Wheaton wrote:
Wes wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: "Prior Planning and Preparation Prevents **** Poor Performance" We will indeed see that individual/group again. Unfortunately..they will probably get it right the 2nd time, if not caught first. The big worry is that they get a bomb maker into the country that really knows what he is doing. I wonder how many Muslim extremists are in our country right now? Wes Remind me again, which mosque did McVeigh go to???? The Mosque of John Moses somethng or other IIRC. LOL -- John R. Carroll |
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On 5/4/2010 4:34 PM, RogerN wrote:
wrote in message ... wrote: Smart people learn form their mistakes. Wise people learn from others mistakes. Liberal people don't learn from mistakes, they repeat them. Communism is fine, the problem is the last regime didn't implement it right? Socialism is Communism lite. I miss the days when Liberal was good and Conservative was bad. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller The final government will be a dictatorship, and it will be the best ever. RogerN And it'll be run by the next Ronnie Reagan. Hawke |
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Stuart Wheaton wrote:
Wes wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: Remind me again, which mosque did McVeigh go to???? How many McVeighs have gone off in the last 15 years? Now how many radical muslims have gone off? Wes |
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