I got a 3 gal compressor from HF, and it's OK for airing up
tires. Or inflating basketballs. As to air tools, it only
powers the tools for a couple seconds, and then the recovery
time is a bit long.

Been considering rig up a manifold, so I can also inflate a
5 gal expansion tank, which I got years ago. That way, I can
run the pressure up for a longer time, before I really get
down and start wrenching. I'd love to have a 40 gal water
heater for expansion tank, but no place to put one.

Wonder if the extra 5 gals of expansion will make a serious
difference in the ability to do car repairs.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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..

"Stormin Mormon" fired this volley
in :

Wonder if the extra 5 gals of expansion will make a serious
difference in the ability to do car repairs.

Yeah... the pump will take 5/8 longer to pump up the 8 gallons than it
did to pump up the 3. In the meanwhile, your pressure is low for longer
than it would have been before.

Buy an Emglo (by DeWalt), and you won't need another $35 HF rip-off. And
it will cut back in at a pressure your tools can still use. You might
not _ever_ be out of air unless you're using a big D/A sander or a sand-
blaster.

But then, you probably paid only about $100-$150 less from HF than you
would have from a decent tool dealer for an Emglo. I got my 3-gal two-
sausage Emglo for $350, out the door. It handles everything I need in a
portable, runs acceptably on a 12-ga 50' extension cord (because it has a
head-relief valve -- although you can hear it struggle a bit on an
extension, until the motor comes up to speed), and is actually
"portable" if I limp a little carrying it ('bout 90lb) G.

I've had it for eight years, and use the hell out of it. It, like the
Chinalloy 4x6 bandsaw I bought, is one of the best buys I ever made.
Hell, the motor and pump are even repairable and replacable. Try that on
the "make believe 3HP" Chinese rip-alikes.

LLoyd

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote:

"Stormin Mormon" fired this volley
in :

Wonder if the extra 5 gals of expansion will make a serious
difference in the ability to do car repairs.

Yeah... the pump will take 5/8 longer to pump up the 8 gallons than it
did to pump up the 3. In the meanwhile, your pressure is low for longer
than it would have been before.

Buy an Emglo (by DeWalt), and you won't need another $35 HF rip-off. And
it will cut back in at a pressure your tools can still use. You might
not _ever_ be out of air unless you're using a big D/A sander or a sand-
blaster.

But then, you probably paid only about $100-$150 less from HF than you
would have from a decent tool dealer for an Emglo. I got my 3-gal two-
sausage Emglo for $350, out the door. It handles everything I need in a
portable, runs acceptably on a 12-ga 50' extension cord (because it has a
head-relief valve -- although you can hear it struggle a bit on an
extension, until the motor comes up to speed), and is actually
"portable" if I limp a little carrying it ('bout 90lb) G.

I've had it for eight years, and use the hell out of it. It, like the
Chinalloy 4x6 bandsaw I bought, is one of the best buys I ever made.
Hell, the motor and pump are even repairable and replacable. Try that on
the "make believe 3HP" Chinese rip-alikes.

LLoyd

Your $350 Emglo would be at least $250 more than the HF compressor. The
HF compressor is not a "rip-off" by any means, it is not intended for
use with continuous air tools, nor is any other brand of "pancake"
compressor. The "pancake" compressors are intended for tools such as
small air nailers, tire filling and the like.

HF also has some compressors that are a closer match to the Emglo at a
higher price than the "pancake" but still considerably less than the
Emglo. I would want the Emglo if I were a contractor using the
compressor daily on a job site, but for occasional home use, the larger
HF unit would probably be fine.

"Pete C." fired this volley in news:4bd78c80$0
:

but for occasional home use, the larger
HF unit would probably be fine.


Pete, did you miss the part where Stormy was complaining that it _didn't_
meet his "occasional home use" needs?

C'mon. I've been given a few burnt-out chinese compressors. Their "5-
hp" motors are barely 1/2HP, equipped with motors the size of my fist,
designed to last a few weeks past warrantee, then blow up.

If not for anything else, the repairability of the better-named units is
what I'd go after. If I have to buy a new compressor every two years,
what's the diff if I just spring for the 5-year replacement price, and it
lasts 15?

LLoyd

Stormin Mormon wrote:
I got a 3 gal compressor from HF, and it's OK for airing up
tires. Or inflating basketballs. As to air tools, it only
powers the tools for a couple seconds, and then the recovery
time is a bit long.

Been considering rig up a manifold, so I can also inflate a
5 gal expansion tank, which I got years ago. That way, I can
run the pressure up for a longer time, before I really get
down and start wrenching. I'd love to have a 40 gal water
heater for expansion tank, but no place to put one.

Wonder if the extra 5 gals of expansion will make a serious
difference in the ability to do car repairs.


It would but only if the compressor developed more CFM. The small
pancake units are not intended for use with constant flow air tools like
impacts are sanders. They are meant for air nailers and impulse use tools.

For a tool like an air ratchet or sander or high flow tools like
blasters and spray guns you want a high CFM unit with a bigger tank.

--
Steve W.
(\___/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote:

"Pete C." fired this volley in news:4bd78c80$0
:

but for occasional home use, the larger
HF unit would probably be fine.


Pete, did you miss the part where Stormy was complaining that it _didn't_
meet his "occasional home use" needs?

"it's OK for airing up
tires. Or inflating basketballs. As to air tools, it only
powers the tools for a couple seconds, and then the recovery
time is a bit long."

He's indicating that he is trying to power continuous air tools with it,
something it is not designed to do. A couple seconds of operation would
be for something like an air die grinder or drill, something that no
"pancake" compressor is intended to power.


C'mon. I've been given a few burnt-out chinese compressors. Their "5-
hp" motors are barely 1/2HP, equipped with motors the size of my fist,
designed to last a few weeks past warrantee, then blow up.

Probably burnt out by continuous operation trying to keep up with people
who are misusing them.


If not for anything else, the repairability of the better-named units is
what I'd go after. If I have to buy a new compressor every two years,
what's the diff if I just spring for the 5-year replacement price, and it
lasts 15?

Like I said, if I was a contractor using the thing daily I'd want an
Emglo or the like. The HF compressors are just fine for weekend home use
if used within their ratings.

Lets see. If I triple the volume from 3 to 9 galons, it
would take 3 times as long to fill, but if I go from 3 to 8,
and then it takes 5/8 longer. Hey, that sounds like a great
deal.

If I had $300, I'd buy a bigger HF compressor, and use that.
Actually, part of the problem is that I don't have the space
for a big compressor.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote
in message
.70...
"Stormin Mormon" fired
this volley
in :

Wonder if the extra 5 gals of expansion will make a
serious
difference in the ability to do car repairs.

Yeah... the pump will take 5/8 longer to pump up the 8
gallons than it
did to pump up the 3. In the meanwhile, your pressure is
low for longer
than it would have been before.

Buy an Emglo (by DeWalt), and you won't need another $35 HF
rip-off. And
it will cut back in at a pressure your tools can still use.
You might
not _ever_ be out of air unless you're using a big D/A
sander or a sand-
blaster.

But then, you probably paid only about $100-$150 less from
HF than you
would have from a decent tool dealer for an Emglo. I got my
3-gal two-
sausage Emglo for $350, out the door. It handles everything
I need in a
portable, runs acceptably on a 12-ga 50' extension cord
(because it has a
head-relief valve -- although you can hear it struggle a bit
on an
extension, until the motor comes up to speed), and is
actually
"portable" if I limp a little carrying it ('bout 90lb) G.

I've had it for eight years, and use the hell out of it.
It, like the
Chinalloy 4x6 bandsaw I bought, is one of the best buys I
ever made.
Hell, the motor and pump are even repairable and replacable.
Try that on
the "make believe 3HP" Chinese rip-alikes.

LLoyd

That's me... the occasional home user. I realize the oilless
compressor will wear out after some small number of hours of
use. But, for $40, I don't expect much.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Pete C." wrote in message
ster.com...

HF also has some compressors that are a closer match to the
Emglo at a
higher price than the "pancake" but still considerably less
than the
Emglo. I would want the Emglo if I were a contractor using
the
compressor daily on a job site, but for occasional home use,
the larger
HF unit would probably be fine.

Actually, Lloyd, Stormy said that the unit was fine for
airing up tires, or inflating basketballs. Just that it
didn't have enough output for air wrench. And maybe with a
bigger expansion tank the duty cycle could be adjusted a
bit.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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..


"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote
in message
. 3.70...

Pete, did you miss the part where Stormy was complaining
that it _didn't_
meet his "occasional home use" needs?

C'mon. I've been given a few burnt-out chinese compressors.
Their "5-
hp" motors are barely 1/2HP, equipped with motors the size
of my fist,
designed to last a few weeks past warrantee, then blow up.

If not for anything else, the repairability of the
better-named units is
what I'd go after. If I have to buy a new compressor every
two years,
what's the diff if I just spring for the 5-year replacement
price, and it
lasts 15?

LLoyd

Of course, you are correct. I'm trying to get a bit more
performance out of a low performance cheap tool.

--
Christopher A. Young
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..


"Steve W."
wrote in message ...


For a tool like an air ratchet or sander or high flow tools
like
blasters and spray guns you want a high CFM unit with a
bigger tank.

--
Steve W.
(\___/)
(='.'=)
(")_(")

I tried to use the compressor and a side-handle air wrench
last week, while changing fluid on my van. 16 bolt
transmission pan. After several minutes of compressor run, I
had enough air to use the air tool for a couple seconds. I
ended up using a hand operated ratchet wrench for most of
the job. I shoulda not been so surpised, that a 3 gal tank
is so feeble, in the face of a ratchet wrench.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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..


"Pete C." wrote in message
ster.com...


He's indicating that he is trying to power continuous air
tools with it,
something it is not designed to do. A couple seconds of
operation would
be for something like an air die grinder or drill, something
that no
"pancake" compressor is intended to power.

I hear that. Makes me wonder if I need a different approach.
Since I don't have the space to house a 60 gal tank, maybe
on the next job like this I oughta invest in a corded drill,
and socket adaptor. Break the bolts loose with a hand
wrench, and use the corded drill to turn the bolts the rest
of the way.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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..


"JR North" wrote in message
...
No. You either need a big-ass compressor that can pump the
tool's cfm
and pressure req continuously, or a minimum 60 gal tank for
acceptable
duty cycle, with a decent comressor.
JR
Dweller in the cellar

Stormin Mormon wrote:

I hear that. Makes me wonder if I need a different approach.
Since I don't have the space to house a 60 gal tank, maybe
on the next job like this I oughta invest in a corded drill,
and socket adaptor. Break the bolts loose with a hand
wrench, and use the corded drill to turn the bolts the rest
of the way.

A cordless impact driver (Makita or other good one) with socket adapters
works very well on remarkably large stuff.

I do have a cordless Makita drill that would have removed
and replaced these bolts. Except for the breaking free, and
final torque. Good idea.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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..


"Pete C." wrote in message
ter.com...

A cordless impact driver (Makita or other good one) with
socket adapters
works very well on remarkably large stuff.

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
Lets see. If I triple the volume from 3 to 9 galons, it
would take 3 times as long to fill, but if I go from 3 to 8,
and then it takes 5/8 longer. Hey, that sounds like a great
deal.

If I had $300, I'd buy a bigger HF compressor, and use that.
Actually, part of the problem is that I don't have the space
for a big compressor.

A roll around is the answer for many small shops and home users. I've got a
16+ year old Cambell Hausfeld, oil bath compressor that has sat for extended
periods, and then been used for heavy service for weeks on end with never a
problem except that it can draw between 15 and 20 amps on startup.

I can drive a 1/2" impact with it long enough to pull all the wheels off my
boat trailer. I can paint with it (and have). I can even do some spot work
with an air grinder or an air sander. I've even used it to run a gravity
feed spot blaster.

I have always wished I had a bigger compressor when when doing some types of
work, but it sure is nice to wrap the hose around the handle and roll it out
of the way when its not being used.

Now that I have a bigger shop I am considering plumbing in air lines... when
I have the time and the money at the same time. LOL. I'll probably hook
that roll around to it for a while unless the right deal on a big upright 2
stage 220V falls in my lap.

Anyway, when I was a kid all the home shops and garage mechanics had a mid
size roll around. Big enough to do some work. Halfway affordable, and easy
enough move out of the way when not in use.

About the only air tool those little compressors can operate with any useful
duty cycle, is an airbrush. Pin or brad nailers might work OK though.

For almost any air tool, the pump needs to have 2 pistons reciprocating on a
crankshaft turning hundreds of RPM.

You shouldn't pass up a decent air compressor because you don't have the
space (indoors), if you can add a closet (vertical model) or a dog house
(horizontal) onto the shop outside for the compressor.
That's where many shop air compressors are located, for good reasons. The
noise is isolated from the shop, and the compressor gets fresh air outdoors.

With a covered, secure, outdoor compressor, you'll need access to check the
oil and drain any water from the tank. An automatic drain valve will blow
off a little air at intervals to drain the water.

Many in-shop compressors are probably operating below their peak performance
because the air filters have gotten clogged with shop dust or overspray.

You'll know when you see an air compressor that will power air tools.. it'll
have 2 cylinders and drive belt(s) on a large tank with an ASME design
certification welded to the tank.
The little 2 cylinder single stage portable air compressors (searze,
Campbell Hausfeld, etc with real 2 HP motors) are borderline barely just
adequate (if it's in good operating condition). I've used them, and they can
power the smaller tools and full-sized paint guns, but a 1/2" impact wrench
can outrun the air output, for quickly removing all 4 wheels from a vehicle
in quick succession, for example.
That's if you have a lift in your shop.

For turning nuts and bolts quickly, a $5 twirly tool (don't know the name),
bent like a dog leg will spin fasteners with one hand. You might be able to
make one.
The twirly tool is a single-handed version of a speed handle.

When you get a good air compressor, one of the handiest tools is a good
quality 3/8" butterfly valve impact wrench. With a 1/4-3/8" adapter, it can
be used for screws, nuts and bolts. Very quick for engine teardown, service,
interior removal, and any job with numerous fasteners of the same size.

I wouldn't have an air ratchet for any price, they just make too much noise
and don't work all that well, but they can trap a hand in a tight spot
(where there may be sharp edges).

--
WB
..........


"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
I got a 3 gal compressor from HF, and it's OK for airing up
tires. Or inflating basketballs. As to air tools, it only
powers the tools for a couple seconds, and then the recovery
time is a bit long.

Been considering rig up a manifold, so I can also inflate a
5 gal expansion tank, which I got years ago. That way, I can
run the pressure up for a longer time, before I really get
down and start wrenching. I'd love to have a 40 gal water
heater for expansion tank, but no place to put one.

Wonder if the extra 5 gals of expansion will make a serious
difference in the ability to do car repairs.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
.

"Bob La Londe" fired this volley in
:

I'll probably hook
that roll around to it for a while unless the right deal on a big
upright 2 stage 220V falls in my lap.

A friend gave me a "5HP" 20-gal Campbell Hausfield roll-around that the
motor crapped on.

Surprisingly, the pump itself was a pretty nice assembly, the motor not.

So I took off all the top-end parts except the regulator/manifold
assembly, and made it into a roll-around portable air tank for when the
tractor or trailers need airing-up out in the pastures. The 20-gal tank
is JUST enough to get one 28-inch tractor tire up enough to safely get
back to the barn.

If yours eventually dies, keep it anyway.

LLoyd

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:38:50 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

That's me... the occasional home user. I realize the oilless
compressor will wear out after some small number of hours of
use. But, for $40, I don't expect much.


Too bad you arent closer to California. I might be able to find you a
real compressor, cheaply.

Gunner


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

Gunner Asch wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:38:50 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

That's me... the occasional home user. I realize the oilless
compressor will wear out after some small number of hours of
use. But, for $40, I don't expect much.

Too bad you arent closer to California. I might be able to find you a
real compressor, cheaply.

He doesn't have room to store the 25HP 4cyl 120gal compressor you'd find
him...

That's a thought. And then we could wander over to Arizona
and shoot some cans. I'm guessing you and I would get along,
fine. I'd like to learn more about the machinery that you
use every day.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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..


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:38:50 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

That's me... the occasional home user. I realize the
oilless
compressor will wear out after some small number of hours
of
use. But, for $40, I don't expect much.


Too bad you arent closer to California. I might be able to
find you a
real compressor, cheaply.

Gunner


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

Ah, but I could afford the fifty bucks price he would haggle
for me. Gunner probably has a roll of 4-0 aluminum wire I
could use for power, after the power co ran the 460-3 in to
the trailer park.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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..


"Pete C." wrote in message
ster.com...


He doesn't have room to store the 25HP 4cyl 120gal
compressor you'd find
him...

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:27:58 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote:

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
...
Lets see. If I triple the volume from 3 to 9 galons, it
would take 3 times as long to fill, but if I go from 3 to 8,
and then it takes 5/8 longer. Hey, that sounds like a great
deal.

If I had $300, I'd buy a bigger HF compressor, and use that.
Actually, part of the problem is that I don't have the space
for a big compressor.

A roll around is the answer for many small shops and home users. I've got a
16+ year old Cambell Hausfeld, oil bath compressor that has sat for extended
periods, and then been used for heavy service for weeks on end with never a
problem except that it can draw between 15 and 20 amps on startup.

I can drive a 1/2" impact with it long enough to pull all the wheels off my
boat trailer. I can paint with it (and have). I can even do some spot work
with an air grinder or an air sander. I've even used it to run a gravity
feed spot blaster.

I have always wished I had a bigger compressor when when doing some types of
work, but it sure is nice to wrap the hose around the handle and roll it out
of the way when its not being used.

Now that I have a bigger shop I am considering plumbing in air lines... when
I have the time and the money at the same time. LOL. I'll probably hook
that roll around to it for a while unless the right deal on a big upright 2
stage 220V falls in my lap.

Anyway, when I was a kid all the home shops and garage mechanics had a mid
size roll around. Big enough to do some work. Halfway affordable, and easy
enough move out of the way when not in use.
I'd like to have the Fink compressor sitting as a display outside a
refrigeration/HVAC place down the street - no idea of the capacity but
it has about ten grooves in the drive pulley and it would certainly
blow my Gardner Denver right out of the shop. After many years without
air, the 2CFM from the little GD comes in very handy, even if I do
have to wait for it to catch up every so often.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:30:01 -0400, the infamous "Wild_Bill"
scrawled the following:

About the only air tool those little compressors can operate with any useful
duty cycle, is an airbrush. Pin or brad nailers might work OK though.

For almost any air tool, the pump needs to have 2 pistons reciprocating on a
crankshaft turning hundreds of RPM.

You shouldn't pass up a decent air compressor because you don't have the
space (indoors), if you can add a closet (vertical model) or a dog house
(horizontal) onto the shop outside for the compressor.
That's where many shop air compressors are located, for good reasons. The
noise is isolated from the shop, and the compressor gets fresh air outdoors.

With a covered, secure, outdoor compressor, you'll need access to check the
oil and drain any water from the tank. An automatic drain valve will blow
off a little air at intervals to drain the water.

Many in-shop compressors are probably operating below their peak performance
because the air filters have gotten clogged with shop dust or overspray.

You'll know when you see an air compressor that will power air tools.. it'll
have 2 cylinders and drive belt(s) on a large tank with an ASME design
certification welded to the tank.
The little 2 cylinder single stage portable air compressors (searze,
Campbell Hausfeld, etc with real 2 HP motors) are borderline barely just
adequate (if it's in good operating condition). I've used them, and they can
power the smaller tools and full-sized paint guns, but a 1/2" impact wrench
can outrun the air output, for quickly removing all 4 wheels from a vehicle
in quick succession, for example.
That's if you have a lift in your shop.

For turning nuts and bolts quickly, a $5 twirly tool (don't know the name),
bent like a dog leg will spin fasteners with one hand. You might be able to
make one.
The twirly tool is a single-handed version of a speed handle.

I don't think I've seen those. I had to replace an old Craftsman 1/4"
spinner handle with the 1/4" socket in the back, but Searz, in their
ultimate wisdom, stopped producing them. After a 2-week fight with
the guy who answered their tech support line from India, I finally got
them to pay for it. I bought the replacement at NAPA.


When you get a good air compressor, one of the handiest tools is a good
quality 3/8" butterfly valve impact wrench. With a 1/4-3/8" adapter, it can
be used for screws, nuts and bolts. Very quick for engine teardown, service,
interior removal, and any job with numerous fasteners of the same size.

I wouldn't have an air ratchet for any price, they just make too much noise
and don't work all that well, but they can trap a hand in a tight spot
(where there may be sharp edges).

I'll second the butterflied impact. One was my third hand when I
wrenched for a living. I loved the air ratchets, too, but they were
slower and the entrapment was real. I kept the other hand on the hose
when I was working in a hidden area, as pulling on it usually
untrapped the hand in a hurry.

--
Losing faith in humanity, one person at a time.

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:02:02 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


Gunner Asch wrote:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:38:50 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

That's me... the occasional home user. I realize the oilless
compressor will wear out after some small number of hours of
use. But, for $40, I don't expect much.

Too bad you arent closer to California. I might be able to find you a
real compressor, cheaply.

He doesn't have room to store the 25HP 4cyl 120gal compressor you'd find
him...

Damn..how about a 25 hp Sullair screw compressor?

Gunner


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:54:05 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Ah, but I could afford the fifty bucks price he would haggle
for me. Gunner probably has a roll of 4-0 aluminum wire I
could use for power, after the power co ran the 460-3 in to
the trailer park.

Hummm...I think I have a couple hundred feed of 2-0 copper though...

Gunner


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:52:59 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

That's a thought. And then we could wander over to Arizona
and shoot some cans. I'm guessing you and I would get along,
fine. I'd like to learn more about the machinery that you
use every day.


When the open war between the Aridzona residents and the cans
starts...Ill meet you there.

I have friends in Aridzona. Think you would like to meet a group of
Green Beanies and Rangers?

Id be happy to teach you machining.

Gunner


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

Can I run it on a 15 amp branch circut?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...


He doesn't have room to store the 25HP 4cyl 120gal
compressor you'd find
him...

Damn..how about a 25 hp Sullair screw compressor?

Gunner

My guess is the troops and I will get along fine. I'm fat,
slow, nearsighted and hard of hearing. So, I'm not front
line material. However, I can learn machining, and I do well
with support services. In the years I did HVAC, I was mostly
the guy who quietly kept working while the boss ran around
and talked on the cell phone. So, I'd be the guy back at the
base filling canteens, typing paper work, making sure the
guys had topped off magazines, and that kind of thing. I'm
not the flashy type, but I would be helpful to keep the
front line guys effective.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...

When the open war between the Aridzona residents and the
cans
starts...Ill meet you there.

I have friends in Aridzona. Think you would like to meet a
group of
Green Beanies and Rangers?

Id be happy to teach you machining.

Gunner


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

Copper is better. Doesn't have to be dosed with No-al-ox and
tightened every couple years. I'll get back to you.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:54:05 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Ah, but I could afford the fifty bucks price he would
haggle
for me. Gunner probably has a roll of 4-0 aluminum wire I
could use for power, after the power co ran the 460-3 in to
the trailer park.

Hummm...I think I have a couple hundred feed of 2-0 copper
though...

Gunner


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

On Sat, 1 May 2010 07:47:57 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Can I run it on a 15 amp branch circut?

Well.. you can hook it up to the 15 amp branch......

The "run" part may be a bit problematic......

G

Ive got a pretty nice 5hp Champion on a 80 gallon horizontal tank
sitting out back as a spare...hummm...let me ponder

Gunner


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost

Just needs a hard start kit? To run a 25 HP, 460 volt 3
phase motor, on a 15 amp branch circuit? I'll plug it in
with the microwave, OK?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 1 May 2010 07:47:57 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Can I run it on a 15 amp branch circut?

Well.. you can hook it up to the 15 amp branch......

The "run" part may be a bit problematic......

G

Ive got a pretty nice 5hp Champion on a 80 gallon horizontal
tank
sitting out back as a spare...hummm...let me ponder

Gunner


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost