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I got a 3 gal compressor from HF, and it's OK for airing up
tires. Or inflating basketballs. As to air tools, it only powers the tools for a couple seconds, and then the recovery time is a bit long. Been considering rig up a manifold, so I can also inflate a 5 gal expansion tank, which I got years ago. That way, I can run the pressure up for a longer time, before I really get down and start wrenching. I'd love to have a 40 gal water heater for expansion tank, but no place to put one. Wonder if the extra 5 gals of expansion will make a serious difference in the ability to do car repairs. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. |
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"Stormin Mormon" fired this volley
in : Wonder if the extra 5 gals of expansion will make a serious difference in the ability to do car repairs. Yeah... the pump will take 5/8 longer to pump up the 8 gallons than it did to pump up the 3. In the meanwhile, your pressure is low for longer than it would have been before. Buy an Emglo (by DeWalt), and you won't need another $35 HF rip-off. And it will cut back in at a pressure your tools can still use. You might not _ever_ be out of air unless you're using a big D/A sander or a sand- blaster. But then, you probably paid only about $100-$150 less from HF than you would have from a decent tool dealer for an Emglo. I got my 3-gal two- sausage Emglo for $350, out the door. It handles everything I need in a portable, runs acceptably on a 12-ga 50' extension cord (because it has a head-relief valve -- although you can hear it struggle a bit on an extension, until the motor comes up to speed), and is actually "portable" if I limp a little carrying it ('bout 90lb) G. I've had it for eight years, and use the hell out of it. It, like the Chinalloy 4x6 bandsaw I bought, is one of the best buys I ever made. Hell, the motor and pump are even repairable and replacable. Try that on the "make believe 3HP" Chinese rip-alikes. LLoyd |
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote: "Stormin Mormon" fired this volley in : Wonder if the extra 5 gals of expansion will make a serious difference in the ability to do car repairs. Yeah... the pump will take 5/8 longer to pump up the 8 gallons than it did to pump up the 3. In the meanwhile, your pressure is low for longer than it would have been before. Buy an Emglo (by DeWalt), and you won't need another $35 HF rip-off. And it will cut back in at a pressure your tools can still use. You might not _ever_ be out of air unless you're using a big D/A sander or a sand- blaster. But then, you probably paid only about $100-$150 less from HF than you would have from a decent tool dealer for an Emglo. I got my 3-gal two- sausage Emglo for $350, out the door. It handles everything I need in a portable, runs acceptably on a 12-ga 50' extension cord (because it has a head-relief valve -- although you can hear it struggle a bit on an extension, until the motor comes up to speed), and is actually "portable" if I limp a little carrying it ('bout 90lb) G. I've had it for eight years, and use the hell out of it. It, like the Chinalloy 4x6 bandsaw I bought, is one of the best buys I ever made. Hell, the motor and pump are even repairable and replacable. Try that on the "make believe 3HP" Chinese rip-alikes. LLoyd Your $350 Emglo would be at least $250 more than the HF compressor. The HF compressor is not a "rip-off" by any means, it is not intended for use with continuous air tools, nor is any other brand of "pancake" compressor. The "pancake" compressors are intended for tools such as small air nailers, tire filling and the like. HF also has some compressors that are a closer match to the Emglo at a higher price than the "pancake" but still considerably less than the Emglo. I would want the Emglo if I were a contractor using the compressor daily on a job site, but for occasional home use, the larger HF unit would probably be fine. |
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"Pete C." fired this volley in news:4bd78c80$0
: but for occasional home use, the larger HF unit would probably be fine. Pete, did you miss the part where Stormy was complaining that it _didn't_ meet his "occasional home use" needs? C'mon. I've been given a few burnt-out chinese compressors. Their "5- hp" motors are barely 1/2HP, equipped with motors the size of my fist, designed to last a few weeks past warrantee, then blow up. If not for anything else, the repairability of the better-named units is what I'd go after. If I have to buy a new compressor every two years, what's the diff if I just spring for the 5-year replacement price, and it lasts 15? LLoyd |
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
I got a 3 gal compressor from HF, and it's OK for airing up tires. Or inflating basketballs. As to air tools, it only powers the tools for a couple seconds, and then the recovery time is a bit long. Been considering rig up a manifold, so I can also inflate a 5 gal expansion tank, which I got years ago. That way, I can run the pressure up for a longer time, before I really get down and start wrenching. I'd love to have a 40 gal water heater for expansion tank, but no place to put one. Wonder if the extra 5 gals of expansion will make a serious difference in the ability to do car repairs. It would but only if the compressor developed more CFM. The small pancake units are not intended for use with constant flow air tools like impacts are sanders. They are meant for air nailers and impulse use tools. For a tool like an air ratchet or sander or high flow tools like blasters and spray guns you want a high CFM unit with a bigger tank. -- Steve W. (\___/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" wrote: "Pete C." fired this volley in news:4bd78c80$0 : but for occasional home use, the larger HF unit would probably be fine. Pete, did you miss the part where Stormy was complaining that it _didn't_ meet his "occasional home use" needs? "it's OK for airing up tires. Or inflating basketballs. As to air tools, it only powers the tools for a couple seconds, and then the recovery time is a bit long." He's indicating that he is trying to power continuous air tools with it, something it is not designed to do. A couple seconds of operation would be for something like an air die grinder or drill, something that no "pancake" compressor is intended to power. C'mon. I've been given a few burnt-out chinese compressors. Their "5- hp" motors are barely 1/2HP, equipped with motors the size of my fist, designed to last a few weeks past warrantee, then blow up. Probably burnt out by continuous operation trying to keep up with people who are misusing them. If not for anything else, the repairability of the better-named units is what I'd go after. If I have to buy a new compressor every two years, what's the diff if I just spring for the 5-year replacement price, and it lasts 15? Like I said, if I was a contractor using the thing daily I'd want an Emglo or the like. The HF compressors are just fine for weekend home use if used within their ratings. |
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Lets see. If I triple the volume from 3 to 9 galons, it
would take 3 times as long to fill, but if I go from 3 to 8, and then it takes 5/8 longer. Hey, that sounds like a great deal. If I had $300, I'd buy a bigger HF compressor, and use that. Actually, part of the problem is that I don't have the space for a big compressor. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message .70... "Stormin Mormon" fired this volley in : Wonder if the extra 5 gals of expansion will make a serious difference in the ability to do car repairs. Yeah... the pump will take 5/8 longer to pump up the 8 gallons than it did to pump up the 3. In the meanwhile, your pressure is low for longer than it would have been before. Buy an Emglo (by DeWalt), and you won't need another $35 HF rip-off. And it will cut back in at a pressure your tools can still use. You might not _ever_ be out of air unless you're using a big D/A sander or a sand- blaster. But then, you probably paid only about $100-$150 less from HF than you would have from a decent tool dealer for an Emglo. I got my 3-gal two- sausage Emglo for $350, out the door. It handles everything I need in a portable, runs acceptably on a 12-ga 50' extension cord (because it has a head-relief valve -- although you can hear it struggle a bit on an extension, until the motor comes up to speed), and is actually "portable" if I limp a little carrying it ('bout 90lb) G. I've had it for eight years, and use the hell out of it. It, like the Chinalloy 4x6 bandsaw I bought, is one of the best buys I ever made. Hell, the motor and pump are even repairable and replacable. Try that on the "make believe 3HP" Chinese rip-alikes. LLoyd |
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That's me... the occasional home user. I realize the oilless
compressor will wear out after some small number of hours of use. But, for $40, I don't expect much. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Pete C." wrote in message ster.com... HF also has some compressors that are a closer match to the Emglo at a higher price than the "pancake" but still considerably less than the Emglo. I would want the Emglo if I were a contractor using the compressor daily on a job site, but for occasional home use, the larger HF unit would probably be fine. |
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Actually, Lloyd, Stormy said that the unit was fine for
airing up tires, or inflating basketballs. Just that it didn't have enough output for air wrench. And maybe with a bigger expansion tank the duty cycle could be adjusted a bit. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message . 3.70... Pete, did you miss the part where Stormy was complaining that it _didn't_ meet his "occasional home use" needs? C'mon. I've been given a few burnt-out chinese compressors. Their "5- hp" motors are barely 1/2HP, equipped with motors the size of my fist, designed to last a few weeks past warrantee, then blow up. If not for anything else, the repairability of the better-named units is what I'd go after. If I have to buy a new compressor every two years, what's the diff if I just spring for the 5-year replacement price, and it lasts 15? LLoyd |
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Of course, you are correct. I'm trying to get a bit more
performance out of a low performance cheap tool. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Steve W." wrote in message ... For a tool like an air ratchet or sander or high flow tools like blasters and spray guns you want a high CFM unit with a bigger tank. -- Steve W. (\___/) (='.'=) (")_(") |
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I tried to use the compressor and a side-handle air wrench
last week, while changing fluid on my van. 16 bolt transmission pan. After several minutes of compressor run, I had enough air to use the air tool for a couple seconds. I ended up using a hand operated ratchet wrench for most of the job. I shoulda not been so surpised, that a 3 gal tank is so feeble, in the face of a ratchet wrench. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Pete C." wrote in message ster.com... He's indicating that he is trying to power continuous air tools with it, something it is not designed to do. A couple seconds of operation would be for something like an air die grinder or drill, something that no "pancake" compressor is intended to power. |
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I hear that. Makes me wonder if I need a different approach.
Since I don't have the space to house a 60 gal tank, maybe on the next job like this I oughta invest in a corded drill, and socket adaptor. Break the bolts loose with a hand wrench, and use the corded drill to turn the bolts the rest of the way. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "JR North" wrote in message ... No. You either need a big-ass compressor that can pump the tool's cfm and pressure req continuously, or a minimum 60 gal tank for acceptable duty cycle, with a decent comressor. JR Dweller in the cellar |
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Stormin Mormon wrote: I hear that. Makes me wonder if I need a different approach. Since I don't have the space to house a 60 gal tank, maybe on the next job like this I oughta invest in a corded drill, and socket adaptor. Break the bolts loose with a hand wrench, and use the corded drill to turn the bolts the rest of the way. A cordless impact driver (Makita or other good one) with socket adapters works very well on remarkably large stuff. |
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I do have a cordless Makita drill that would have removed
and replaced these bolts. Except for the breaking free, and final torque. Good idea. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Pete C." wrote in message ter.com... A cordless impact driver (Makita or other good one) with socket adapters works very well on remarkably large stuff. |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message
... Lets see. If I triple the volume from 3 to 9 galons, it would take 3 times as long to fill, but if I go from 3 to 8, and then it takes 5/8 longer. Hey, that sounds like a great deal. If I had $300, I'd buy a bigger HF compressor, and use that. Actually, part of the problem is that I don't have the space for a big compressor. A roll around is the answer for many small shops and home users. I've got a 16+ year old Cambell Hausfeld, oil bath compressor that has sat for extended periods, and then been used for heavy service for weeks on end with never a problem except that it can draw between 15 and 20 amps on startup. I can drive a 1/2" impact with it long enough to pull all the wheels off my boat trailer. I can paint with it (and have). I can even do some spot work with an air grinder or an air sander. I've even used it to run a gravity feed spot blaster. I have always wished I had a bigger compressor when when doing some types of work, but it sure is nice to wrap the hose around the handle and roll it out of the way when its not being used. Now that I have a bigger shop I am considering plumbing in air lines... when I have the time and the money at the same time. LOL. I'll probably hook that roll around to it for a while unless the right deal on a big upright 2 stage 220V falls in my lap. Anyway, when I was a kid all the home shops and garage mechanics had a mid size roll around. Big enough to do some work. Halfway affordable, and easy enough move out of the way when not in use. |
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About the only air tool those little compressors can operate with any useful
duty cycle, is an airbrush. Pin or brad nailers might work OK though. For almost any air tool, the pump needs to have 2 pistons reciprocating on a crankshaft turning hundreds of RPM. You shouldn't pass up a decent air compressor because you don't have the space (indoors), if you can add a closet (vertical model) or a dog house (horizontal) onto the shop outside for the compressor. That's where many shop air compressors are located, for good reasons. The noise is isolated from the shop, and the compressor gets fresh air outdoors. With a covered, secure, outdoor compressor, you'll need access to check the oil and drain any water from the tank. An automatic drain valve will blow off a little air at intervals to drain the water. Many in-shop compressors are probably operating below their peak performance because the air filters have gotten clogged with shop dust or overspray. You'll know when you see an air compressor that will power air tools.. it'll have 2 cylinders and drive belt(s) on a large tank with an ASME design certification welded to the tank. The little 2 cylinder single stage portable air compressors (searze, Campbell Hausfeld, etc with real 2 HP motors) are borderline barely just adequate (if it's in good operating condition). I've used them, and they can power the smaller tools and full-sized paint guns, but a 1/2" impact wrench can outrun the air output, for quickly removing all 4 wheels from a vehicle in quick succession, for example. That's if you have a lift in your shop. For turning nuts and bolts quickly, a $5 twirly tool (don't know the name), bent like a dog leg will spin fasteners with one hand. You might be able to make one. The twirly tool is a single-handed version of a speed handle. When you get a good air compressor, one of the handiest tools is a good quality 3/8" butterfly valve impact wrench. With a 1/4-3/8" adapter, it can be used for screws, nuts and bolts. Very quick for engine teardown, service, interior removal, and any job with numerous fasteners of the same size. I wouldn't have an air ratchet for any price, they just make too much noise and don't work all that well, but they can trap a hand in a tight spot (where there may be sharp edges). -- WB .......... "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... I got a 3 gal compressor from HF, and it's OK for airing up tires. Or inflating basketballs. As to air tools, it only powers the tools for a couple seconds, and then the recovery time is a bit long. Been considering rig up a manifold, so I can also inflate a 5 gal expansion tank, which I got years ago. That way, I can run the pressure up for a longer time, before I really get down and start wrenching. I'd love to have a 40 gal water heater for expansion tank, but no place to put one. Wonder if the extra 5 gals of expansion will make a serious difference in the ability to do car repairs. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org . |
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"Bob La Londe" fired this volley in
: I'll probably hook that roll around to it for a while unless the right deal on a big upright 2 stage 220V falls in my lap. A friend gave me a "5HP" 20-gal Campbell Hausfield roll-around that the motor crapped on. Surprisingly, the pump itself was a pretty nice assembly, the motor not. So I took off all the top-end parts except the regulator/manifold assembly, and made it into a roll-around portable air tank for when the tractor or trailers need airing-up out in the pastures. The 20-gal tank is JUST enough to get one 28-inch tractor tire up enough to safely get back to the barn. If yours eventually dies, keep it anyway. LLoyd |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:38:50 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: That's me... the occasional home user. I realize the oilless compressor will wear out after some small number of hours of use. But, for $40, I don't expect much. Too bad you arent closer to California. I might be able to find you a real compressor, cheaply. Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:38:50 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: That's me... the occasional home user. I realize the oilless compressor will wear out after some small number of hours of use. But, for $40, I don't expect much. Too bad you arent closer to California. I might be able to find you a real compressor, cheaply. He doesn't have room to store the 25HP 4cyl 120gal compressor you'd find him... |
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That's a thought. And then we could wander over to Arizona
and shoot some cans. I'm guessing you and I would get along, fine. I'd like to learn more about the machinery that you use every day. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:38:50 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: That's me... the occasional home user. I realize the oilless compressor will wear out after some small number of hours of use. But, for $40, I don't expect much. Too bad you arent closer to California. I might be able to find you a real compressor, cheaply. Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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Ah, but I could afford the fifty bucks price he would haggle
for me. Gunner probably has a roll of 4-0 aluminum wire I could use for power, after the power co ran the 460-3 in to the trailer park. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Pete C." wrote in message ster.com... He doesn't have room to store the 25HP 4cyl 120gal compressor you'd find him... |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 08:27:58 -0700, "Bob La Londe"
wrote: "Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... Lets see. If I triple the volume from 3 to 9 galons, it would take 3 times as long to fill, but if I go from 3 to 8, and then it takes 5/8 longer. Hey, that sounds like a great deal. If I had $300, I'd buy a bigger HF compressor, and use that. Actually, part of the problem is that I don't have the space for a big compressor. A roll around is the answer for many small shops and home users. I've got a 16+ year old Cambell Hausfeld, oil bath compressor that has sat for extended periods, and then been used for heavy service for weeks on end with never a problem except that it can draw between 15 and 20 amps on startup. I can drive a 1/2" impact with it long enough to pull all the wheels off my boat trailer. I can paint with it (and have). I can even do some spot work with an air grinder or an air sander. I've even used it to run a gravity feed spot blaster. I have always wished I had a bigger compressor when when doing some types of work, but it sure is nice to wrap the hose around the handle and roll it out of the way when its not being used. Now that I have a bigger shop I am considering plumbing in air lines... when I have the time and the money at the same time. LOL. I'll probably hook that roll around to it for a while unless the right deal on a big upright 2 stage 220V falls in my lap. Anyway, when I was a kid all the home shops and garage mechanics had a mid size roll around. Big enough to do some work. Halfway affordable, and easy enough move out of the way when not in use. I'd like to have the Fink compressor sitting as a display outside a refrigeration/HVAC place down the street - no idea of the capacity but it has about ten grooves in the drive pulley and it would certainly blow my Gardner Denver right out of the shop. After many years without air, the 2CFM from the little GD comes in very handy, even if I do have to wait for it to catch up every so often. Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:30:01 -0400, the infamous "Wild_Bill"
scrawled the following: About the only air tool those little compressors can operate with any useful duty cycle, is an airbrush. Pin or brad nailers might work OK though. For almost any air tool, the pump needs to have 2 pistons reciprocating on a crankshaft turning hundreds of RPM. You shouldn't pass up a decent air compressor because you don't have the space (indoors), if you can add a closet (vertical model) or a dog house (horizontal) onto the shop outside for the compressor. That's where many shop air compressors are located, for good reasons. The noise is isolated from the shop, and the compressor gets fresh air outdoors. With a covered, secure, outdoor compressor, you'll need access to check the oil and drain any water from the tank. An automatic drain valve will blow off a little air at intervals to drain the water. Many in-shop compressors are probably operating below their peak performance because the air filters have gotten clogged with shop dust or overspray. You'll know when you see an air compressor that will power air tools.. it'll have 2 cylinders and drive belt(s) on a large tank with an ASME design certification welded to the tank. The little 2 cylinder single stage portable air compressors (searze, Campbell Hausfeld, etc with real 2 HP motors) are borderline barely just adequate (if it's in good operating condition). I've used them, and they can power the smaller tools and full-sized paint guns, but a 1/2" impact wrench can outrun the air output, for quickly removing all 4 wheels from a vehicle in quick succession, for example. That's if you have a lift in your shop. For turning nuts and bolts quickly, a $5 twirly tool (don't know the name), bent like a dog leg will spin fasteners with one hand. You might be able to make one. The twirly tool is a single-handed version of a speed handle. I don't think I've seen those. I had to replace an old Craftsman 1/4" spinner handle with the 1/4" socket in the back, but Searz, in their ultimate wisdom, stopped producing them. After a 2-week fight with the guy who answered their tech support line from India, I finally got them to pay for it. I bought the replacement at NAPA. When you get a good air compressor, one of the handiest tools is a good quality 3/8" butterfly valve impact wrench. With a 1/4-3/8" adapter, it can be used for screws, nuts and bolts. Very quick for engine teardown, service, interior removal, and any job with numerous fasteners of the same size. I wouldn't have an air ratchet for any price, they just make too much noise and don't work all that well, but they can trap a hand in a tight spot (where there may be sharp edges). I'll second the butterflied impact. One was my third hand when I wrenched for a living. I loved the air ratchets, too, but they were slower and the entrapment was real. I kept the other hand on the hose when I was working in a hidden area, as pulling on it usually untrapped the hand in a hurry. -- Losing faith in humanity, one person at a time. |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 14:02:02 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote: Gunner Asch wrote: On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:38:50 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: That's me... the occasional home user. I realize the oilless compressor will wear out after some small number of hours of use. But, for $40, I don't expect much. Too bad you arent closer to California. I might be able to find you a real compressor, cheaply. He doesn't have room to store the 25HP 4cyl 120gal compressor you'd find him... Damn..how about a 25 hp Sullair screw compressor? Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:54:05 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Ah, but I could afford the fifty bucks price he would haggle for me. Gunner probably has a roll of 4-0 aluminum wire I could use for power, after the power co ran the 460-3 in to the trailer park. Hummm...I think I have a couple hundred feed of 2-0 copper though... Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:52:59 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: That's a thought. And then we could wander over to Arizona and shoot some cans. I'm guessing you and I would get along, fine. I'd like to learn more about the machinery that you use every day. When the open war between the Aridzona residents and the cans starts...Ill meet you there. I have friends in Aridzona. Think you would like to meet a group of Green Beanies and Rangers? Id be happy to teach you machining. Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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Can I run it on a 15 amp branch circut?
-- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... He doesn't have room to store the 25HP 4cyl 120gal compressor you'd find him... Damn..how about a 25 hp Sullair screw compressor? Gunner |
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My guess is the troops and I will get along fine. I'm fat,
slow, nearsighted and hard of hearing. So, I'm not front line material. However, I can learn machining, and I do well with support services. In the years I did HVAC, I was mostly the guy who quietly kept working while the boss ran around and talked on the cell phone. So, I'd be the guy back at the base filling canteens, typing paper work, making sure the guys had topped off magazines, and that kind of thing. I'm not the flashy type, but I would be helpful to keep the front line guys effective. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... When the open war between the Aridzona residents and the cans starts...Ill meet you there. I have friends in Aridzona. Think you would like to meet a group of Green Beanies and Rangers? Id be happy to teach you machining. Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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Copper is better. Doesn't have to be dosed with No-al-ox and
tightened every couple years. I'll get back to you. -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Wed, 28 Apr 2010 21:54:05 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Ah, but I could afford the fifty bucks price he would haggle for me. Gunner probably has a roll of 4-0 aluminum wire I could use for power, after the power co ran the 460-3 in to the trailer park. Hummm...I think I have a couple hundred feed of 2-0 copper though... Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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On Sat, 1 May 2010 07:47:57 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote: Can I run it on a 15 amp branch circut? Well.. you can hook it up to the 15 amp branch...... The "run" part may be a bit problematic...... G Ive got a pretty nice 5hp Champion on a 80 gallon horizontal tank sitting out back as a spare...hummm...let me ponder Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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Just needs a hard start kit? To run a 25 HP, 460 volt 3
phase motor, on a 15 amp branch circuit? I'll plug it in with the microwave, OK? -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 May 2010 07:47:57 -0400, "Stormin Mormon" wrote: Can I run it on a 15 amp branch circut? Well.. you can hook it up to the 15 amp branch...... The "run" part may be a bit problematic...... G Ive got a pretty nice 5hp Champion on a 80 gallon horizontal tank sitting out back as a spare...hummm...let me ponder Gunner "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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