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Stop culling dingoes, they're our vulnerable species
May 21, 2009


www.OzBackpackerTours.com.au

The dingo is Australian wildlife but it is the only wildlife not given
protection in this country.

Lyn Watson from the Dingo Discovery Centre outside of Melbourne
(``Foreign zoos pitch in to save the dingo'', May 13) should be
commended for foresight and wisdom in sending dingoes to international
countries in an attempt to save the gene pool, before the only dingoes
left are relics next to a thylacine in the museum.

When the approximate population of dingoes living on Fraser Island
number 140, it is nothing short of total irresponsibility and idiocy
when 56 of these dingoes have been killed since 2001 in a supposed
sanctuary location.
When there are such a small number of dingoes living on Fraser Island
and there have been so many dingoes killed, great concern for the
dwindling gene pool would be a fact for anyone remotely worried about
conservation.

A public that insists on abusing the privilege of this World Heritage
place should be forced to abide by stringent management and rules.

Other World Heritage destinations are kept pristine. A strictly
controlled population of humans is brought on and off the location.
First and foremost come the wildlife in any action plan.
World Heritage should possibly send in their own managers to Fraser
Island, as the legacy of killing 56 dingoes since 2001 is nothing short
of irresponsible.

In the last 12 months nine dingoes have been killed this includes pups.
Actions from the supposed carers, the rangers on Fraser Island, speak
louder than words. No responsible justification can be made for this
atrocity, the culling of so many dingoes and their pups highlights the
hypocrisy in the departments that are supposed to be protecting and
saving the dingo from extinction

Australia's legacy of dingo extermination is a national disgrace. The
latest killing of dingoes highlights a lack of responsible care and
knowledge of the species.

Dingoes are on our turf, they are slaughtered every day and have been
put on the International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural
Resources' Red List of Threatened Species as ``vulnerable''.

Dingoes are our top land predator and keep harmony in the ecosystem.
Where dingoes are now extinct we have a major imbalance with pigs,
goats, cats and foxes.

Dingoes are here for a reason and are just as important as whales.

Nic Papalia president of the West Australian Dingo Association, Balga
(WA).


Whats this all about? Is it nationwide?

Gunner


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homophobe approaches infinity.

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Gunner Asch wrote:
Stop culling dingoes, they're our vulnerable species
May 21, 2009


www.OzBackpackerTours.com.au

The dingo is Australian wildlife but it is the only wildlife not given
protection in this country.

Lyn Watson from the Dingo Discovery Centre outside of Melbourne
(``Foreign zoos pitch in to save the dingo'', May 13) should be
commended for foresight and wisdom in sending dingoes to international
countries in an attempt to save the gene pool, before the only dingoes
left are relics next to a thylacine in the museum.

When the approximate population of dingoes living on Fraser Island
number 140, it is nothing short of total irresponsibility and idiocy
when 56 of these dingoes have been killed since 2001 in a supposed
sanctuary location.
When there are such a small number of dingoes living on Fraser Island
and there have been so many dingoes killed, great concern for the
dwindling gene pool would be a fact for anyone remotely worried about
conservation.

A public that insists on abusing the privilege of this World Heritage
place should be forced to abide by stringent management and rules.

Other World Heritage destinations are kept pristine. A strictly
controlled population of humans is brought on and off the location.
First and foremost come the wildlife in any action plan.
World Heritage should possibly send in their own managers to Fraser
Island, as the legacy of killing 56 dingoes since 2001 is nothing short
of irresponsible.

In the last 12 months nine dingoes have been killed this includes pups.
Actions from the supposed carers, the rangers on Fraser Island, speak
louder than words. No responsible justification can be made for this
atrocity, the culling of so many dingoes and their pups highlights the
hypocrisy in the departments that are supposed to be protecting and
saving the dingo from extinction

Australia's legacy of dingo extermination is a national disgrace. The
latest killing of dingoes highlights a lack of responsible care and
knowledge of the species.

Dingoes are on our turf, they are slaughtered every day and have been
put on the International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural
Resources' Red List of Threatened Species as ``vulnerable''.

Dingoes are our top land predator and keep harmony in the ecosystem.
Where dingoes are now extinct we have a major imbalance with pigs,
goats, cats and foxes.

Dingoes are here for a reason and are just as important as whales.

Nic Papalia president of the West Australian Dingo Association, Balga
(WA).


Whats this all about? Is it nationwide?


"Today, dingoes are legally classified as vermin and carry a bounty of
$20 AUS ($11 USD) a head. Rewards for dingoes caught on the inside
(southeast) of the fence can be upwards of $500 AUS."

("The fence" is 3488 miles. Australia has the world's longest fence.)

"The Dingo Fence or Dog Fence is a pest-exclusion fence that was built
in Australia during the 1880s and finished in 1885, to keep dingoes out
of the relatively fertile south-east part of the continent (where they
had largely been exterminated) and protect the sheep flocks of southern
Queensland."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingo_Fence

They don't much care for kangaroos either, except as a tourist draw.
Regarded as just another pest.
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Gunner Asch wrote:
Stop culling dingoes, they're our vulnerable species
May 21, 2009


www.OzBackpackerTours.com.au

The dingo is Australian wildlife but it is the only wildlife not given
protection in this country.

Lyn Watson from the Dingo Discovery Centre outside of Melbourne
(``Foreign zoos pitch in to save the dingo'', May 13) should be
commended for foresight and wisdom in sending dingoes to international
countries in an attempt to save the gene pool, before the only dingoes
left are relics next to a thylacine in the museum.

When the approximate population of dingoes living on Fraser Island
number 140, it is nothing short of total irresponsibility and idiocy
when 56 of these dingoes have been killed since 2001 in a supposed
sanctuary location.
When there are such a small number of dingoes living on Fraser Island
and there have been so many dingoes killed, great concern for the
dwindling gene pool would be a fact for anyone remotely worried about
conservation.

A public that insists on abusing the privilege of this World Heritage
place should be forced to abide by stringent management and rules.

Other World Heritage destinations are kept pristine. A strictly
controlled population of humans is brought on and off the location.
First and foremost come the wildlife in any action plan.
World Heritage should possibly send in their own managers to Fraser
Island, as the legacy of killing 56 dingoes since 2001 is nothing short
of irresponsible.

In the last 12 months nine dingoes have been killed this includes pups.
Actions from the supposed carers, the rangers on Fraser Island, speak
louder than words. No responsible justification can be made for this
atrocity, the culling of so many dingoes and their pups highlights the
hypocrisy in the departments that are supposed to be protecting and
saving the dingo from extinction

Australia's legacy of dingo extermination is a national disgrace. The
latest killing of dingoes highlights a lack of responsible care and
knowledge of the species.

Dingoes are on our turf, they are slaughtered every day and have been
put on the International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural
Resources' Red List of Threatened Species as ``vulnerable''.

Dingoes are our top land predator and keep harmony in the ecosystem.
Where dingoes are now extinct we have a major imbalance with pigs,
goats, cats and foxes.

Dingoes are here for a reason and are just as important as whales.

Nic Papalia president of the West Australian Dingo Association, Balga
(WA).


Whats this all about? Is it nationwide?


"Today, dingoes are legally classified as vermin and carry a bounty of $20
AUS ($11 USD) a head. Rewards for dingoes caught on the inside (southeast)
of the fence can be upwards of $500 AUS."

("The fence" is 3488 miles. Australia has the world's longest fence.)

"The Dingo Fence or Dog Fence is a pest-exclusion fence that was built in
Australia during the 1880s and finished in 1885, to keep dingoes out of
the relatively fertile south-east part of the continent (where they had
largely been exterminated) and protect the sheep flocks of southern
Queensland."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingo_Fence

They don't much care for kangaroos either, except as a tourist draw.
Regarded as just another pest.




The dingos are a pest & in large numbers in many parts. Same with roos. Main
problem is feral cats/dogs, goats and camels. The cats eat all the small
marsupials etc & the camels trash the land and breed like crazy. IIRC the
population in australia is 1 million camels.


"The wild dog/dingo is a serious predator of sheep, cattle
and other livestock in areas of Queensland; New South
Wales, Victoria, South Australia and Western Australia.
Wild dogs/dingoes are regarded as serious pests.
In the Eastern Highlands of Victoria, wild dogs/dingoes,
either alone or in-groups, sporadically attack sheep flocks
and may kill or maim many sheep in a single attack."

www.dpi.vic.gov.au


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Gunner Asch wrote:
Stop culling dingoes, they're our vulnerable species
May 21, 2009


www.OzBackpackerTours.com.au

The dingo is Australian wildlife but it is the only wildlife not given
protection in this country.

Lyn Watson from the Dingo Discovery Centre outside of Melbourne
(``Foreign zoos pitch in to save the dingo'', May 13) should be
commended for foresight and wisdom in sending dingoes to international
countries in an attempt to save the gene pool, before the only dingoes
left are relics next to a thylacine in the museum.

When the approximate population of dingoes living on Fraser Island
number 140, it is nothing short of total irresponsibility and idiocy
when 56 of these dingoes have been killed since 2001 in a supposed
sanctuary location.
When there are such a small number of dingoes living on Fraser Island
and there have been so many dingoes killed, great concern for the
dwindling gene pool would be a fact for anyone remotely worried about
conservation.

A public that insists on abusing the privilege of this World Heritage
place should be forced to abide by stringent management and rules.

Other World Heritage destinations are kept pristine. A strictly
controlled population of humans is brought on and off the location.
First and foremost come the wildlife in any action plan.
World Heritage should possibly send in their own managers to Fraser
Island, as the legacy of killing 56 dingoes since 2001 is nothing short
of irresponsible.

In the last 12 months nine dingoes have been killed this includes pups.
Actions from the supposed carers, the rangers on Fraser Island, speak
louder than words. No responsible justification can be made for this
atrocity, the culling of so many dingoes and their pups highlights the
hypocrisy in the departments that are supposed to be protecting and
saving the dingo from extinction

Australia's legacy of dingo extermination is a national disgrace. The
latest killing of dingoes highlights a lack of responsible care and
knowledge of the species.

Dingoes are on our turf, they are slaughtered every day and have been
put on the International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural
Resources' Red List of Threatened Species as ``vulnerable''.

Dingoes are our top land predator and keep harmony in the ecosystem.
Where dingoes are now extinct we have a major imbalance with pigs,
goats, cats and foxes.

Dingoes are here for a reason and are just as important as whales.

Nic Papalia president of the West Australian Dingo Association, Balga
(WA).


Whats this all about? Is it nationwide?


"Today, dingoes are legally classified as vermin and carry a bounty of $20
AUS ($11 USD) a head. Rewards for dingoes caught on the inside (southeast)
of the fence can be upwards of $500 AUS."

("The fence" is 3488 miles. Australia has the world's longest fence.)

"The Dingo Fence or Dog Fence is a pest-exclusion fence that was built in
Australia during the 1880s and finished in 1885, to keep dingoes out of
the relatively fertile south-east part of the continent (where they had
largely been exterminated) and protect the sheep flocks of southern
Queensland."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingo_Fence

They don't much care for kangaroos either, except as a tourist draw.
Regarded as just another pest.




The dingos are a pest & in large numbers in many parts. Same with roos. Main
problem is feral cats/dogs, goats and camels. The cats eat all the small
marsupials etc & the camels trash the land and breed like crazy. IIRC the
population in australia is 1 million camels.


"The wild dog/dingo is a serious predator of sheep, cattle
and other livestock in areas of Queensland; New South
Wales, Victoria, South Australia and Western Australia.
Wild dogs/dingoes are regarded as serious pests.
In the Eastern Highlands of Victoria, wild dogs/dingoes,
either alone or in-groups, sporadically attack sheep flocks
and may kill or maim many sheep in a single attack."

www.dpi.vic.gov.au



Thanks! I was curious.

Much obliged.

Gunner


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that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
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It's a bit of a beat-up actually. There are still lots of the *******s
about!
The problem is that there aren't a lot of purebred Dingos left as they have
a tendency to interbreed with anything vaguely resembling a dog. In the
outback, where they belong, they do a service by knocking off the feral
cats( which eat anything smaller than themselves) but they take a lot of
lambs when they get onto sheep stations. They take up the niche in the
environment that coyotes occupy in North America.
The ones on Frazier Island are still pretty much a pure strain, but they
have been fed by tourists and lost all fear of humans. A boy was killed by
them about ten years ago and a few of the most aggressive ones were quietly
shot while the Rabid Greenies were away looking for television cameras. They
have again multiplied and there are apparently a number of aggressive ones
about again.

I wouldn't take my granddaughter there.

Incidentally, there are far more kangaroos now than there have ever been.
Their numbers are limited by the availability of water,and, as graziers
drill wells to supply water for their livestock,they benefit as well.
They don't tend to damage the surface of the land as much as cattle and
sheep,so there have been a few attempts to sell roo meat in bucher shops and
supermarkets. I've tried it, but it has to be eaten quite rare as it gets
very tough if cooked any more than medium-rare.




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On Apr 20, 4:15*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:
*Stop culling dingoes, they're our vulnerable species
May 21, 2009

www.OzBackpackerTours.com.au

The dingo is Australian wildlife but it is the only wildlife not given
protection in this country.

Lyn Watson from the Dingo Discovery Centre outside of Melbourne
(``Foreign zoos pitch in to save the dingo'', May 13) should be
commended for foresight and wisdom in sending dingoes to international
countries in an attempt to save the gene pool, before the only dingoes
left are relics next to a thylacine in the museum.

When the approximate population of dingoes living on Fraser Island
number 140, it is nothing short of total irresponsibility and idiocy
when 56 of these dingoes have been killed since 2001 in a supposed
sanctuary location.
When there are such a small number of dingoes living on Fraser Island
and there have been so many dingoes killed, great concern for the
dwindling gene pool would be a fact for anyone remotely worried about
conservation.

A public that insists on abusing the privilege of this World Heritage
place should be forced to abide by stringent management and rules.

Other World Heritage destinations are kept pristine. A strictly
controlled population of humans is brought on and off the location.
First and foremost come the wildlife in any action plan.
World Heritage should possibly send in their own managers to Fraser
Island, as the legacy of killing 56 dingoes since 2001 is nothing short
of irresponsible.

In the last 12 months nine dingoes have been killed *this includes pups..
Actions from the supposed carers, the rangers on Fraser Island, speak
louder than words. No responsible justification can be made for this
atrocity, the culling of so many dingoes and their pups highlights the
hypocrisy in the departments that are supposed to be protecting and
saving the dingo from extinction

Australia's legacy of dingo extermination is a national disgrace. The
latest killing of dingoes highlights a lack of responsible care and
knowledge of the species.

Dingoes are on our turf, they are slaughtered every day and have been
put on the International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural
Resources' Red List of Threatened Species as ``vulnerable''.

Dingoes are our top land predator and keep harmony in the ecosystem.
Where dingoes are now extinct we have a major imbalance with pigs,
goats, cats and foxes.

Dingoes are here for a reason and are just as important as whales.

Nic Papalia president of the West Australian Dingo Association, Balga
(WA).

Whats this all about? *Is it nationwide?

Gunner

"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." *Grey Ghost


Nah, its bull****. No shortage of dingoes, all over the bloody place,
killing sheep, cattle, etc etc. Most state governments employ people
to hunt and kill them (their called "doggers") Very few purebred ones
left cause they mate with ordinary dogs, and the purebreds are looked
after anyway. Some on Fraser Island, but they went and bit people, so
we shot a few of them. The rest calmed down.
Anyway, whales are much more useful - you cant eat a dingo, or get oil
from it.

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*Stop culling dingoes, they're our vulnerable species
May 21, 2009


www.OzBackpackerTours.com.au


The dingo is Australian wildlife but it is the only wildlife not given
protection in this country.


Lyn Watson from the Dingo Discovery Centre outside of Melbourne
(``Foreign zoos pitch in to save the dingo'', May 13) should be
commended for foresight and wisdom in sending dingoes to international
countries in an attempt to save the gene pool, before the only dingoes
left are relics next to a thylacine in the museum.


When the approximate population of dingoes living on Fraser Island
number 140, it is nothing short of total irresponsibility and idiocy
when 56 of these dingoes have been killed since 2001 in a supposed
sanctuary location.
When there are such a small number of dingoes living on Fraser Island
and there have been so many dingoes killed, great concern for the
dwindling gene pool would be a fact for anyone remotely worried about
conservation.


A public that insists on abusing the privilege of this World Heritage
place should be forced to abide by stringent management and rules.


Other World Heritage destinations are kept pristine. A strictly
controlled population of humans is brought on and off the location.
First and foremost come the wildlife in any action plan.
World Heritage should possibly send in their own managers to Fraser
Island, as the legacy of killing 56 dingoes since 2001 is nothing short
of irresponsible.


In the last 12 months nine dingoes have been killed *this includes pups.
Actions from the supposed carers, the rangers on Fraser Island, speak
louder than words. No responsible justification can be made for this
atrocity, the culling of so many dingoes and their pups highlights the
hypocrisy in the departments that are supposed to be protecting and
saving the dingo from extinction


Australia's legacy of dingo extermination is a national disgrace. The
latest killing of dingoes highlights a lack of responsible care and
knowledge of the species.


Dingoes are on our turf, they are slaughtered every day and have been
put on the International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural
Resources' Red List of Threatened Species as ``vulnerable''.


Dingoes are our top land predator and keep harmony in the ecosystem.
Where dingoes are now extinct we have a major imbalance with pigs,
goats, cats and foxes.


Dingoes are here for a reason and are just as important as whales.


Nic Papalia president of the West Australian Dingo Association, Balga
(WA).


Whats this all about? *Is it nationwide?


Gunner


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.


This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." *Grey Ghost


Nah, its bull****. No shortage of dingoes, all over the bloody place,
killing sheep, cattle, etc etc. Most state governments employ people
to hunt and kill them (their called "doggers") Very few purebred ones
left cause they mate with ordinary dogs, and the purebreds are looked
after anyway. Some on Fraser Island, but they went and bit people, so
we shot a few of them. The rest calmed down.
Anyway, whales are much more useful - you cant eat a dingo, or get oil
from it.

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Sounds like a coyote. Do-gooders want to protect those until their
pet poodle gets eaten. They're everywhere, even in the outskirts of
towns. Have seen a very nice woman's jacket done by a trapper, all
matched pelts. Don't imagine that the same could be done with
dingoes.

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Incidentally, there are far more kangaroos now than there have ever been.
Their numbers are limited by the availability of water,and, as graziers
drill wells to supply water for their livestock,they benefit as well.


A few years ago, I drove to Brisbane from Perth via Peterboro,
Broken Hill, Wilcannia. On one stretch of road, about 400 km (240
miles) there was a dead kangaroo (roadkill) about every 10 metres on
both sides of the road, that works out at about 80,000 roos. That
does not include the 800,000+ that managed to dodge the trucks.

I once hit one, it bounded out of the side of the road, I just saw a
blur, hit the right side of the bullbar and bounced off into my driver
side front door leaving a big dent. Another roadkill and insurance
claim.

Of course the greenie nuts claim they are an "Endangered species"

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Coyotes and a couple other predators are over populated.
Much due to laws prevenging shooting them.

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Sounds like a coyote. Do-gooders want to protect those
until their
pet poodle gets eaten. They're everywhere, even in the
outskirts of
towns. Have seen a very nice woman's jacket done by a
trapper, all
matched pelts. Don't imagine that the same could be done
with
dingoes.

Stan


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Coyotes and a couple other predators are over populated.
Much due to laws prevenging shooting them.


What laws are those, the ones that discourage shooting coyotes at the
school bus stop? Coyote hunting regs are generally very liberal.
Liberal in the shoot all you want sense.

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Stop culling dingoes, they're our vulnerable species
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It's a bit of a beat-up actually. There are still lots of the *******s
about!
The problem is that there aren't a lot of purebred Dingos left as they have
a tendency to interbreed with anything vaguely resembling a dog. In the
outback, where they belong, they do a service by knocking off the feral
cats( which eat anything smaller than themselves) but they take a lot of
lambs when they get onto sheep stations. They take up the niche in the
environment that coyotes occupy in North America.
The ones on Frazier Island are still pretty much a pure strain, but they
have been fed by tourists and lost all fear of humans. A boy was killed by
them about ten years ago and a few of the most aggressive ones were quietly
shot while the Rabid Greenies were away looking for television cameras. They
have again multiplied and there are apparently a number of aggressive ones
about again.

I wouldn't take my granddaughter there.

Incidentally, there are far more kangaroos now than there have ever been.
Their numbers are limited by the availability of water,and, as graziers
drill wells to supply water for their livestock,they benefit as well.
They don't tend to damage the surface of the land as much as cattle and
sheep,so there have been a few attempts to sell roo meat in bucher shops and
supermarkets. I've tried it, but it has to be eaten quite rare as it gets
very tough if cooked any more than medium-rare.

Ah! Thanks!

I live in Coyote country, and shoot them whenever I can, as they eat
California Kit foxes, which indeed are a rare and endangered species.

http://www.conservationinstitute.org...cn_kit_fox.htm

http://virtual.yosemite.cc.ca.us/ran...s/17kitfox.jpg

http://www.canids.org/gallery/Popup19385.jpg

They are getting quite scarce here but have learned that they are
safer..when around humans. So we are finding dens close to housing
developments and we see a few of them time to time, at the local gas
stations, where people will buy hotdogs and hamburgers and feed them, at
least in my town.

But they are getting scarcer. Fish and Game Department has quietly put
out the word that they would like to see the coyotes thinned out a
bit...so we do it whenever possible.

My part of california tends to run in drought cycles..5-7 year lengths
then a couple years of rain..and then another drought cycle..and rabbits
which are both species main food..tend to come and go with the cycles.

During the last few years of each cycle..coyotes come into towns and
feed on cats, small dogs and other "town" small critters as well as the
kit foxes, so Ive killed hummm 20 or more in and around my property in
the last 10 yrs, and since I live right at the edge of the housing
area...I hear them all night long.

Thanks for the info

Gunner


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that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
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On Apr 21, 1:09*am, wrote:
On Apr 20, 7:58*am, Andrew VK3BFA wrote:



On Apr 20, 4:15*pm, Gunner Asch wrote:


*Stop culling dingoes, they're our vulnerable species
May 21, 2009


www.OzBackpackerTours.com.au


The dingo is Australian wildlife but it is the only wildlife not given
protection in this country.


Lyn Watson from the Dingo Discovery Centre outside of Melbourne
(``Foreign zoos pitch in to save the dingo'', May 13) should be
commended for foresight and wisdom in sending dingoes to international
countries in an attempt to save the gene pool, before the only dingoes
left are relics next to a thylacine in the museum.


When the approximate population of dingoes living on Fraser Island
number 140, it is nothing short of total irresponsibility and idiocy
when 56 of these dingoes have been killed since 2001 in a supposed
sanctuary location.
When there are such a small number of dingoes living on Fraser Island
and there have been so many dingoes killed, great concern for the
dwindling gene pool would be a fact for anyone remotely worried about
conservation.


A public that insists on abusing the privilege of this World Heritage
place should be forced to abide by stringent management and rules.


Other World Heritage destinations are kept pristine. A strictly
controlled population of humans is brought on and off the location.
First and foremost come the wildlife in any action plan.
World Heritage should possibly send in their own managers to Fraser
Island, as the legacy of killing 56 dingoes since 2001 is nothing short
of irresponsible.


In the last 12 months nine dingoes have been killed *this includes pups.
Actions from the supposed carers, the rangers on Fraser Island, speak
louder than words. No responsible justification can be made for this
atrocity, the culling of so many dingoes and their pups highlights the
hypocrisy in the departments that are supposed to be protecting and
saving the dingo from extinction


Australia's legacy of dingo extermination is a national disgrace. The
latest killing of dingoes highlights a lack of responsible care and
knowledge of the species.


Dingoes are on our turf, they are slaughtered every day and have been
put on the International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural
Resources' Red List of Threatened Species as ``vulnerable''.


Dingoes are our top land predator and keep harmony in the ecosystem.
Where dingoes are now extinct we have a major imbalance with pigs,
goats, cats and foxes.


Dingoes are here for a reason and are just as important as whales.


Nic Papalia president of the West Australian Dingo Association, Balga
(WA).


Whats this all about? *Is it nationwide?


Gunner


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.


This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." *Grey Ghost


Nah, its bull****. No shortage of dingoes, all over the bloody place,
killing sheep, cattle, etc etc. Most state governments employ people
to hunt and kill them (their called "doggers") Very few purebred ones
left cause they mate with ordinary dogs, and the purebreds are looked
after anyway. Some on Fraser Island, but they went and bit people, so
we shot a few of them. The rest calmed down.
Anyway, whales are much more useful - you cant eat a dingo, or get oil
from it.


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Sounds like a coyote. *Do-gooders want to protect those until their
pet poodle gets eaten. *They're everywhere, even in the outskirts of
towns. *Have seen a very nice woman's jacket done by a trapper, all
matched pelts. *Don't imagine that the same could be done with
dingoes.

Stan


Yeh, seems to run in cycles - koalas, kangaroos, dingoes, fruit bats
(real nocturnal noisy *******s, we got them in our flowering Gum tree,
right now. Wish they would **** off) or (insert name here) endangered
species. The best one in recent years was when it was proposed to move
a chemical terminal from the old port in the centre of the city (after
it blew up) to a new location, miles away. Nope, cant do that - some
rare parrot would be extincted(?). Nobody knew the bloody parrot was
there before the compulsory "environment impact study". So, Coote
(sp?) Island is still there, where it always was, waiting to go off
again.

BUT - the parrot, and its "habitat" is safe..........feel a touch of
the Gunners coming on here...

Andrew VK3BFA.


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On Apr 21, 1:09 am, wrote:
On Apr 20, 7:58 am, Andrew VK3BFA wrote:



On Apr 20, 4:15 pm, Gunner Asch wrote:


Stop culling dingoes, they're our vulnerable species
May 21, 2009


www.OzBackpackerTours.com.au


The dingo is Australian wildlife but it is the only wildlife not given
protection in this country.


Lyn Watson from the Dingo Discovery Centre outside of Melbourne
(``Foreign zoos pitch in to save the dingo'', May 13) should be
commended for foresight and wisdom in sending dingoes to international
countries in an attempt to save the gene pool, before the only dingoes
left are relics next to a thylacine in the museum.


When the approximate population of dingoes living on Fraser Island
number 140, it is nothing short of total irresponsibility and idiocy
when 56 of these dingoes have been killed since 2001 in a supposed
sanctuary location.
When there are such a small number of dingoes living on Fraser Island
and there have been so many dingoes killed, great concern for the
dwindling gene pool would be a fact for anyone remotely worried about
conservation.


A public that insists on abusing the privilege of this World Heritage
place should be forced to abide by stringent management and rules.


Other World Heritage destinations are kept pristine. A strictly
controlled population of humans is brought on and off the location.
First and foremost come the wildlife in any action plan.
World Heritage should possibly send in their own managers to Fraser
Island, as the legacy of killing 56 dingoes since 2001 is nothing
short
of irresponsible.


In the last 12 months nine dingoes have been killed this includes
pups.
Actions from the supposed carers, the rangers on Fraser Island, speak
louder than words. No responsible justification can be made for this
atrocity, the culling of so many dingoes and their pups highlights the
hypocrisy in the departments that are supposed to be protecting and
saving the dingo from extinction


Australia's legacy of dingo extermination is a national disgrace. The
latest killing of dingoes highlights a lack of responsible care and
knowledge of the species.


Dingoes are on our turf, they are slaughtered every day and have been
put on the International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural
Resources' Red List of Threatened Species as ``vulnerable''.


Dingoes are our top land predator and keep harmony in the ecosystem.
Where dingoes are now extinct we have a major imbalance with pigs,
goats, cats and foxes.


Dingoes are here for a reason and are just as important as whales.


Nic Papalia president of the West Australian Dingo Association, Balga
(WA).


Whats this all about? Is it nationwide?


Gunner


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.


This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost


Nah, its bull****. No shortage of dingoes, all over the bloody place,
killing sheep, cattle, etc etc. Most state governments employ people
to hunt and kill them (their called "doggers") Very few purebred ones
left cause they mate with ordinary dogs, and the purebreds are looked
after anyway. Some on Fraser Island, but they went and bit people, so
we shot a few of them. The rest calmed down.
Anyway, whales are much more useful - you cant eat a dingo, or get oil
from it.


Andrew VK3BFA.- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


Sounds like a coyote. Do-gooders want to protect those until their
pet poodle gets eaten. They're everywhere, even in the outskirts of
towns. Have seen a very nice woman's jacket done by a trapper, all
matched pelts. Don't imagine that the same could be done with
dingoes.

Stan


Yeh, seems to run in cycles - koalas, kangaroos, dingoes, fruit bats
(real nocturnal noisy *******s, we got them in our flowering Gum tree,
right now. Wish they would **** off) or (insert name here) endangered
species. The best one in recent years was when it was proposed to move
a chemical terminal from the old port in the centre of the city (after
it blew up) to a new location, miles away. Nope, cant do that - some
rare parrot would be extincted(?). Nobody knew the bloody parrot was
there before the compulsory "environment impact study". So, Coote
(sp?) Island is still there, where it always was, waiting to go off
again.

BUT - the parrot, and its "habitat" is safe..........feel a touch of
the Gunners coming on here...

Andrew VK3BFA.

Andrew

That parrot is the Orange Breasted Parrot, and is vital to the survival of
green goups all over Victoria and Tasmania. If they went extinct, there
would be un-directed greenies wandering all over the place,leaving dirty
hair and lingering bad smells while looking for a new cause. They would then
select the common pidgeon or some other worthy species as the new recipient
of their favours.
I heard recently that there are about 50 of those damned parrots still in
existance. Progress in Victoria will be delayed as
long as they exist. Thing of the progress we could make if somebody with a
12 gauge...... nah, better not say that.




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On 4/20/2010 8:00 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 20 Apr 2010 18:15:37 +0800, "Royston
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Gunner Asch wrote:
Stop culling dingoes, they're our vulnerable species
May 21, 2009


www.OzBackpackerTours.com.au

The dingo is Australian wildlife but it is the only wildlife not given
protection in this country.

Lyn Watson from the Dingo Discovery Centre outside of Melbourne
(``Foreign zoos pitch in to save the dingo'', May 13) should be
commended for foresight and wisdom in sending dingoes to international
countries in an attempt to save the gene pool, before the only dingoes
left are relics next to a thylacine in the museum.

When the approximate population of dingoes living on Fraser Island
number 140, it is nothing short of total irresponsibility and idiocy
when 56 of these dingoes have been killed since 2001 in a supposed
sanctuary location.
When there are such a small number of dingoes living on Fraser Island
and there have been so many dingoes killed, great concern for the
dwindling gene pool would be a fact for anyone remotely worried about
conservation.

A public that insists on abusing the privilege of this World Heritage
place should be forced to abide by stringent management and rules.

Other World Heritage destinations are kept pristine. A strictly
controlled population of humans is brought on and off the location.
First and foremost come the wildlife in any action plan.
World Heritage should possibly send in their own managers to Fraser
Island, as the legacy of killing 56 dingoes since 2001 is nothing short
of irresponsible.

In the last 12 months nine dingoes have been killed this includes pups.
Actions from the supposed carers, the rangers on Fraser Island, speak
louder than words. No responsible justification can be made for this
atrocity, the culling of so many dingoes and their pups highlights the
hypocrisy in the departments that are supposed to be protecting and
saving the dingo from extinction

Australia's legacy of dingo extermination is a national disgrace. The
latest killing of dingoes highlights a lack of responsible care and
knowledge of the species.

Dingoes are on our turf, they are slaughtered every day and have been
put on the International Union for Conservation of Nature and Natural
Resources' Red List of Threatened Species as ``vulnerable''.

Dingoes are our top land predator and keep harmony in the ecosystem.
Where dingoes are now extinct we have a major imbalance with pigs,
goats, cats and foxes.

Dingoes are here for a reason and are just as important as whales.

Nic Papalia president of the West Australian Dingo Association, Balga
(WA).


Whats this all about? Is it nationwide?

"Today, dingoes are legally classified as vermin and carry a bounty of $20
AUS ($11 USD) a head. Rewards for dingoes caught on the inside (southeast)
of the fence can be upwards of $500 AUS."

("The fence" is 3488 miles. Australia has the world's longest fence.)

"The Dingo Fence or Dog Fence is a pest-exclusion fence that was built in
Australia during the 1880s and finished in 1885, to keep dingoes out of
the relatively fertile south-east part of the continent (where they had
largely been exterminated) and protect the sheep flocks of southern
Queensland."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dingo_Fence

They don't much care for kangaroos either, except as a tourist draw.
Regarded as just another pest.




The dingos are a pest& in large numbers in many parts. Same with roos. Main
problem is feral cats/dogs, goats and camels. The cats eat all the small
marsupials etc& the camels trash the land and breed like crazy. IIRC the
population in australia is 1 million camels.


"The wild dog/dingo is a serious predator of sheep, cattle
and other livestock in areas of Queensland; New South
Wales, Victoria, South Australia and Western Australia.
Wild dogs/dingoes are regarded as serious pests.
In the Eastern Highlands of Victoria, wild dogs/dingoes,
either alone or in-groups, sporadically attack sheep flocks
and may kill or maim many sheep in a single attack."

www.dpi.vic.gov.au



Thanks! I was curious.

Much obliged.

Gunner


"First Law of Leftist Debate
The more you present a leftist with factual evidence
that is counter to his preconceived world view and the
more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without
losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot,
homophobe approaches infinity.

This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned
race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to
the subject." Grey Ghost



In the Northern Territory (Australia) where I live Dingoes are protected .
Although landowners who can prove that dingos are a problem to thier
live stock can apply for permits to control them , by shooting or
baiting. Mostly it's domestic dogs gone feral that are the cause of the
problem and those that have cross bred with the dingo .That's been our
experience around these parts .I've shot quite a few feral dogs and
there aint much dingo in them.

In other States they are classed as vermin ,and some States have a
bounty on them.

Fraser Island (Queensland) is a differnt kettle of fish,it's a National
Park and dingos are protected in National Parks.
Problem on Frazer Island is that campers and tourists are feeding the
dingoes which causes them to become agressive at times and will approach
humans very closely for food .A dingo could savage a small child easily.
The dingo is a wild animal ( but easily domesticated ) , like most wild
animals , they will take any opportunity for a quick easy feed.
When they become aggresive the Park Rangers are forced to shoot them to
protect the public. ( no different to bears in the US national parks ).

What the rangers should do is shoot the idiots that feed the dingoes or
at least hit them with a few thousand dollar fine to teach them a
lesson.Best thing to do is completely close Farzer Island to the public
for a few years and let the dingoes fend for them selves ,like they
should be doing.

So the vermin classification is not nation widwe like the article says .
--
Kevin (Bluey)
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On 4/24/2010 2:17 PM, Grumpy wrote:
"Lyn Watson from the Dingo Discovery Centre outside of Melbourne"


The above says it all she lives in Melbounre or "outside of Melbourne" (
how far outside ?) , not exactly the outback of Australia is it?

What about the dingo that killed Azaria Chamberlain in Central Australia ?
No one believed it , but Aboriginal people new about dingoes snatching
unattended babies from their camps ,they been doing it for 40,000 years.




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On 4/20/2010 3:37 AM, Grumpy wrote:

They don't tend to damage the surface of the land as much as cattle and
sheep,so there have been a few attempts to sell roo meat in bucher shops and
supermarkets. I've tried it, but it has to be eaten quite rare as it gets
very tough if cooked any more than medium-rare.


I tried some my first visit there. It's obviously different than beef,
but not real gamey. I liked it. I'd also visited a jerky maker in
Cootamundra, where I bought some bulk roo, emu, and gator jerky.
I commented that roo jerky ought to be very popular. The owner sorta
chuckled and explained that at one time (and maybe still?) roo meat was
a major ingredient in dog food. Thus many Australians associate roo meat
with dog food, and that was his explanation for the overall scarcity of
it. We'd hit both supermarkets in town, and two butcher shops before
finding me a roo steak.

Jon
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