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Default Alabama professor shot her own brother also 20+ years ago

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the plot thickens

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Not just another "liberal with a gun" story, Ig?

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the plot thickens

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...atestHeadlines


Not just another "liberal with a gun" story, Ig?


Looks like she was a big time kook. Her political affiliation would
certainly be an interesting addition to what I know about her.

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Ignoramus21666 wrote:
On 2010-02-16, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:37:29 -0600, the infamous Ignoramus21666
scrawled the following:

the plot thickens

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...atestHeadlines


Not just another "liberal with a gun" story, Ig?


Looks like she was a big time kook. Her political affiliation would
certainly be an interesting addition to what I know about her.


yeah, something isn't right about this person.

It's funny that in retrospect, everybody then states that "OMG so and so
was so weird/scary etc", yet until they actually do something over the
top, people keep their mouth shut.

So, has anybody here known/worked with any freaks that they called out as
nutty BEFORE they did something crazy?

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On 2010-02-16, Cydrome Leader wrote:
Ignoramus21666 wrote:
On 2010-02-16, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:37:29 -0600, the infamous Ignoramus21666
scrawled the following:

the plot thickens

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...atestHeadlines

Not just another "liberal with a gun" story, Ig?


Looks like she was a big time kook. Her political affiliation would
certainly be an interesting addition to what I know about her.


yeah, something isn't right about this person.

It's funny that in retrospect, everybody then states that "OMG so and so
was so weird/scary etc", yet until they actually do something over the
top, people keep their mouth shut.


I believe that the faculty did not know of her criminal past (killing
her brother and pipe bombs), so they were not fully aware of who
they were dealing with.

So, has anybody here known/worked with any freaks that they called
out as nutty BEFORE they did something crazy?


I have not, but I would like to know, as well.

My own thinking on this matter is that there are many more workplace
kooks and workplace assholes, than there are workplace killers, so
guessing who will become a killer is difficult.

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On Feb 16, 11:05*am, Ignoramus21666 ignoramus21...@NOSPAM.
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On 2010-02-16, Cydrome Leader wrote:





Ignoramus21666 wrote:
On 2010-02-16, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:37:29 -0600, the infamous Ignoramus21666
scrawled the following:


the plot thickens


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57506356135081....


Not just another "liberal with a gun" story, Ig? *


Looks like she was a big time kook. Her political affiliation would
certainly be an interesting addition to what I know about her.


yeah, something isn't right about this person.


It's funny that in retrospect, everybody then states that "OMG so and so
was so weird/scary etc", yet until they actually do something over the
top, people keep their mouth shut.


I believe that the faculty did not know of her criminal past (killing
her brother and pipe bombs), so they were not fully aware of who
they were dealing with.

So, has anybody here known/worked with any freaks that they called
out as nutty BEFORE they did something crazy?


I have not, but I would like to know, as well.

My own thinking on this matter is that there are many more workplace
kooks and workplace assholes, than there are workplace killers, so
guessing who will become a killer is difficult.

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Ig...in my experience there is little difference between the kooks/
assholes and the killers.

Many times that difference is only whether a gun is available at the
moment.

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On Feb 16, 11:05*am, Ignoramus21666 ignoramus21...@NOSPAM.
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On 2010-02-16, Cydrome Leader wrote:





Ignoramus21666 wrote:
On 2010-02-16, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:37:29 -0600, the infamous Ignoramus21666
scrawled the following:


the plot thickens


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57506356135081....


Not just another "liberal with a gun" story, Ig? *


Looks like she was a big time kook. Her political affiliation would
certainly be an interesting addition to what I know about her.


yeah, something isn't right about this person.


It's funny that in retrospect, everybody then states that "OMG so and so
was so weird/scary etc", yet until they actually do something over the
top, people keep their mouth shut.


I believe that the faculty did not know of her criminal past (killing
her brother and pipe bombs), so they were not fully aware of who
they were dealing with.

So, has anybody here known/worked with any freaks that they called
out as nutty BEFORE they did something crazy?


I have not, but I would like to know, as well.

My own thinking on this matter is that there are many more workplace
kooks and workplace assholes, than there are workplace killers, so
guessing who will become a killer is difficult.

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I would agree that the school did not know.

And apparently neither the people doing the background check on her if
that was her gun.

If that is the case, I am all for better background checks.

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On Feb 16, 11:01*am, Cydrome Leader wrote:
Ignoramus21666 wrote:
On 2010-02-16, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:37:29 -0600, the infamous Ignoramus21666
scrawled the following:


the plot thickens


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57506356135081....


Not just another "liberal with a gun" story, Ig? *


Looks like she was a big time kook. Her political affiliation would
certainly be an interesting addition to what I know about her.


yeah, something isn't right about this person.

It's funny that in retrospect, everybody then states that "OMG so and so
was so weird/scary etc", yet until they actually do something over the
top, people keep their mouth shut.

So, has anybody here known/worked with any freaks that they called out as
nutty BEFORE they did something crazy?


And the real question is with the current laws, how did this person
get a gun?

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Too_Many_Tools wrote:

And the real question is with the current laws, how did this person
get a gun?


Maybe it had something to do with her not having been charged with or
convicted of a crime?

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So, has anybody here known/worked with any freaks that they called out as
nutty BEFORE they did something crazy?


Oh yes, five that I can think of quickly, but we were careful about
not calling them out.

Really nice guys, too, who'd do anything for someone who treated them
well. Maybe they had an overblown sense of right and wrong that was
easily set off. Che Guevara mentioned that a leader of revolutionaries
has to be especially careful with that common type of follower.

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On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:50:40 -0600, the infamous Ignoramus21666
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On 2010-02-16, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:37:29 -0600, the infamous Ignoramus21666
scrawled the following:

the plot thickens

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...atestHeadlines


Not just another "liberal with a gun" story, Ig?


Looks like she was a big time kook. Her political affiliation would
certainly be an interesting addition to what I know about her.


I'll give you odds that, as a professor and academic, she's a
registered Demon^Hcrat.

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On 2010-02-17, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:50:40 -0600, the infamous Ignoramus21666
scrawled the following:

On 2010-02-16, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:37:29 -0600, the infamous Ignoramus21666
scrawled the following:

the plot thickens

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...atestHeadlines

Not just another "liberal with a gun" story, Ig?


Looks like she was a big time kook. Her political affiliation would
certainly be an interesting addition to what I know about her.


I'll give you odds that, as a professor and academic, she's a
registered Demon^Hcrat.


Indeed ,this is the case, she was an ardent Obama supporter.

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On Feb 17, 11:23*am, Ignoramus15568 ignoramus15...@NOSPAM.
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On 2010-02-17, Larry Jaques wrote:





On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:50:40 -0600, the infamous Ignoramus21666
scrawled the following:


On 2010-02-16, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:37:29 -0600, the infamous Ignoramus21666
scrawled the following:


the plot thickens


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57506356135081....


Not just another "liberal with a gun" story, Ig? *


Looks like she was a big time kook. Her political affiliation would
certainly be an interesting addition to what I know about her.


I'll give you odds that, as a professor and academic, she's a
registered Demon^Hcrat.


Indeed ,this is the case, she was an ardent Obama supporter.

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So they say.

And so are millions of other Americans Ig.

Which begs the question.. what would "an ardent Obama supporter" be
doing in Alabama?

And why did "she being an Obama supporter" (if true) come out while
the bodies were still warm?

In my experience, that little tidbit and its timing seems designed to
be an attempt to smear her reputation.

Maybe we have a case of one liberal working with a den of foaming
mouth conservatives.

It would not surprise me a bit if it is found that she was working in
a hostile work environment and snapped.

The term "going postal" has such a history.

Bullies are always surprised when the one they pick on fights back.

I should add...my comments in no way make her actions acceptable.

The simple truth is that she should not have had a gun and the current
checks and balances in gun purchasing failed.

Time to fix the background check problem.

We have three more dead reasons why.

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On Feb 17, 10:59*am, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:50:40 -0600, the infamous Ignoramus21666
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On 2010-02-16, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:37:29 -0600, the infamous Ignoramus21666
scrawled the following:


the plot thickens


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57506356135081....


Not just another "liberal with a gun" story, Ig? *


Looks like she was a big time kook. Her political affiliation would
certainly be an interesting addition to what I know about her.


I'll give you odds that, as a professor and academic, she's a
registered Demon^Hcrat.

--
Note to The O -

You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Henry Ford


It is a fact that the better educated you are, the more likely you
will be a registered Democrat.

Does that make you feel threatened?

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On Feb 17, 11:59*am, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 09:50:40 -0600, the infamous Ignoramus21666
scrawled the following:

On 2010-02-16, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Tue, 16 Feb 2010 06:37:29 -0600, the infamous Ignoramus21666
scrawled the following:


the plot thickens


http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57506356135081....


Not just another "liberal with a gun" story, Ig? *


Looks like she was a big time kook. Her political affiliation would
certainly be an interesting addition to what I know about her.


I'll give you odds that, as a professor and academic, she's a
registered Demon^Hcrat.

--
Note to The O -

You can't build a reputation on what you are going to do.
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *-- Henry Ford


So, what you're saying is that Assholes^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^HRepublicans are
uneducated?


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I damn near fell out of my chair when I read she was an Obama fetisher. I thought the
left stuck to bombs.

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On 2010-02-16, Wes wrote:
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Not just another "liberal with a gun" story, Ig?


I damn near fell out of my chair when I read she was an Obama
fetisher. I thought the left stuck to bombs.


Yep, she indeed worshiped Obama. And she tried bombs, also, but her
bombs did not explode.

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I damn near fell out of my chair when I read she was an Obama fetisher. I thought the
left stuck to bombs.


(They shoot abortion doctors, don't they? Oops, no, that's the
ultra-conservative kooks. I guess both sides grow 'em.)

Yeah, I thought so, too.

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I damn near fell out of my chair when I read she was an Obama fetisher. *I thought the
left stuck to bombs.

Wes


The two cases of beer might have had something to do with that also.

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I heard there were inflammatory email to her just before
and then the 'You have an IQ of 160 and know your stuff...'
but your not good enough... Something is rotten here and
this person was stressed to the breaking point. I think some
other members of the staff - maybe those shot first - pushed
her over the edge.

If that is true, they broke laws and sadly were out of their league,
the person didn't just leave or kill her self, but shot the bad ones.

This will be a long drawn out physiological study and trial.

Sicking what people do - both sides.

Martin

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On Feb 16, 10:54*pm, "Martin H. Eastburn"
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I heard there were inflammatory email to her just before
and then the 'You have an IQ of 160 and know your stuff...'
but your not good enough... *Something is rotten here and
this person was stressed to the breaking point. *I think some
other members of the staff - maybe those shot first - pushed
her over the edge.

If that is true, they broke laws and sadly were out of their league,
the person didn't just leave or kill her self, but shot the bad ones.

This will be a long drawn out physiological study and trial.

Sicking what people do - both sides.

Martin



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I think you are right.

The more they dig, the more they are finding.

Something pushed this person over the edge...and it hasn't been
mentioned yet.

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"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote:

I heard there were inflammatory email to her just before
and then the 'You have an IQ of 160 and know your stuff...'
but your not good enough... Something is rotten here and
this person was stressed to the breaking point. I think some
other members of the staff - maybe those shot first - pushed
her over the edge.

If that is true, they broke laws and sadly were out of their league,
the person didn't just leave or kill her self, but shot the bad ones.

This will be a long drawn out physiological study and trial.

Sicking what people do - both sides.


IIRC, she was learned in neurosciences. I wonder if it was a case of physician, heal
thyself?

Damn, just heard on the news that another nut ruined a perfectly good Piper Cherokee
today. I'm partial to those, first aircraft I ever sat left seat in.

Wes
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